Obama & DNC Admit All Allegations of Federal Court Lawsuit - Obama’s “Not” Qualified to be President
Obama Should Immediately Withdraw his Candidacy for President
For Immediate Release: - 10/21/08 - Complete contact details and pdfs of this press release and motions filed by plaintiff Berg today are at the end of this article
(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 10/21/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States, announced today that Obama and tbe DNC “ADMITTED”, by way of failure to timely respond to Requests for Admissions, all of the numerous specific requests in the Federal lawsuit. Obama is “NOT QUALIFIED” to be President and therefore Obama must immediately withdraw his candidacy for President and the DNC shall substitute a qualified candidate. The case is Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.
Berg stated that he filed Requests for Admissions on September 15, 2008 with a response by way of answer or objection had to be served within thirty [30] days. No response to the Requests for Admissions was served by way of response or objection. Thus, all of the Admissions directed to Obama and the DNC are deemed “ADMITTED.” Therefore, Obama must immediately withdraw his candidacy for President.
OBAMA - Admitted:
1. I was born in Kenya.2. I am a Kenya “natural born” citizen.
3. My foreign birth was registered in the State of Hawaii.4. My father, Barrack Hussein Obama, Sr. admitted Paternity of me.
5. My mother gave birth to me in Mombosa, Kenya.6. My mother’s maiden name is Stanley Ann Dunham a/k/a Ann Dunham.
7. The COLB [Certification of Live Birth] posted on the website “Fightthesmears.com” is a forgery.8. I was adopted by a Foreign Citizen.
9. I was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, M.A. a citizen of Indonesia.10. I was not born in Hawaii.
11. I was not born at the Queens Medical Center in Hawaii.12. I was not born at Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Hawaii.
13. I was not born in a Hospital in Hawaii.14. I am a citizen of Indonesia.
15. I never took the “Oath of Allegiance” to regain my U.S. Citizenship status.16. I am not a “natural born” United States citizen.
17. My date of birth is August 4, 1961.18. I traveled to Pakistan in 1981 with my Pakistan friends.
19. In 1981, I went to Indonesia on my way to Pakistan.20. Pakistan was a no travel zone in 1981 for American Citizens.
21. In 1981, Pakistan was not allowing American Citizens to enter their country.22. I traveled on my Indonesian Passport to Pakistan.
23. I renewed my Indonesian Passport on my way to Pakistan.24. My senior campaign staff is aware I am not a “natural born” United States Citizen.
25. I am proud of my Kenya Heritage.26. My relatives have requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate that identifies my first name.
27. My relatives have requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate that identifies my last name.28. My relatives have requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate that identifies my place of birth.
29. I requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate that identifies my first name.30. I requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate that identifies my last name.
31. I requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate that identifies my place of birth.32. The document identified as my Indonesian School record from Fransiskus Assisi School in Jakarta, Indonesia is genuine.
33. I went to a Judge in Hawaii to have my name changed.34. I went to a Senator and/or Congressman or other public official in Hawaii to have my name changed.
35. I had a passport issued to me from the Government of Indonesia.36. The United States Constitution does not allow for a Person to hold the office of President of the United States unless that person is a “natural born” United States citizen.
37. I am ineligible pursuant to the United States Constitution to serve as President and/or Vice President of the United States.38. I never renounced my citizenship as it relates to my citizenship to the country of Indonesia.
39. I never renounced my citizenship as it relates to my citizenship to the country of Kenya.40. I am an Attorney who specializes in Constitutional Law.
41. Kenya was a part of the British Colonies at the time of my birth.42. Kenya did not become its own Republic until 1963.
43. I am not a “Naturalized” United States Citizen.44. I obtained $200 Million dollars in campaign funds by fraudulent means.
45. I cannot produce a “vault” (original) long version of a birth certificate showing my birth in Hawaii.46. My “vault” (original) long version birth certificate shows my birth in Kenya.
47. The only times I was to a Hospital in Hawaii was for check-ups or medical treatments for illnesses.48. Queens Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii does not have any record of my mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) giving birth to me.
49. Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu, Hawaii does not have any record of my mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) giving birth to me.50. I was born in the Coast Province Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.
51. I represented on my State Bar application in Illinois that I never used any other name other than Barack Hussein Obama.52. I went by the name Barry Soetoro in Indonesia.
53. My Indonesian school records are under the name of Barry Soetoro.54. I took an Oath to uphold the United States Constitution when admitted to the State Bar of Illinois to practice Law.
55. I took an Oath to uphold the United States Constitution when I was Sworn into my United States Senate Office.56. I hold dual citizenship with at least one other Country besides the United States of America.
DNC - Admitted:
1. The DNC nominated Barrack Hussein Obama as the Democratic Nominee for President.Our website obamacrimes.com now has 50.7 + million hits. We are urging all to spread the word of our website – and forward to your local newspapers, radio and TV stations. Berg again stressed his position regarding the urgency of this case as, “we” the people, are heading to a “Constitutional Crisis” if this case is not resolved forthwith.2. The DNC has not vetted Barrack Hussein Obama.
3. The DNC did not have a background check performed on Barrack Hussein Obama.4.The DNC did not verify Barrack Hussein Obama’s eligibility to serve as President of the United States.
5. The DNC admits Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya.6. The DNC admits Barrack Hussein Obama is not a “natural born” United States citizen.
7. The DNC admits Barrack Hussein Obama was not born in Hawaii.8.The DNC admits they have not inquired into Barrack Hussein Obama’s citizenship status.
9. The DNC admits they have a duty to properly vette the Democratic Nominee for President.
10.The DNC admits Lolo Soetoro, M.A., an Indonesian citizen adopted Barrack Hussein Obama.
11. The DNC admits the Credentials Committee has been aware of this lawsuit since August 22, 2008 as the lawsuit was faxed to our Washington D.C. Office on August 22, 2008.
12. The DNC admits their Credentials Committee failed to verify and/or inquire into the credentials of Barack Hussein Obama to serve as the President of the United States.
13. The DNC admits their Credential Committee’s Report failed to address the issues of Barack Hussein Obama’s ineligibility to serve as President of the United States.14.The DNC admits Howard Dean, Chair Person has and had knowledge Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya and ineligible to serve as the President of the United States.
15. The DNC admits Plaintiff and all Democratic citizens of the United States have been personally injured as a result of not having a qualified Democratic Presidential Nominee to cast their votes upon.16. The DNC admits Plaintiff and all citizens of the United States have a Constitutional Right to vote for the President of the United States and to have two (2) qualified candidates of which to choose from.
17. The DNC admits Plaintiff and all citizens of the United States have a Constitutional right to have a properly vetted Democratic Presidential Nominee of which to cast their vote.18. The DNC admits an FBI background check is not performed on the Presidential or Vice Presidential Candidates.
19. The DNC admits the United States Constitution does not allow for a Person to hold the office of President of the United States unless that person is a “natural born” United States citizen.20. The DNC admits they collected donations on behalf of Barack Hussein Obama for his Presidential campaign.
21. The DNC admits Plaintiff and Democratic citizens donated money based on false representations that Barack Hussein Obama was qualified to serve as the President of the United States.22. The DNC admits if Barack Hussein Obama is elected as President and allowed to serve as President of the United States in violation of our Constitution, it will create a Constitutional crisis.
23. The DNC admits Barack Hussein Obama took an Oath to uphold the United States Constitution.24. The DNC admits allowing a person who is not a “natural born” citizen to serve as President of the United States violates Plaintiff’s rights to due process of law in violation of the United States Constitution.
25. The DNC admits allowing a person who is not a “natural born” citizen to serve as President of the United States violates Plaintiff’s rights to Equal Protection of the laws in violation of the United States Constitution.26. The DNC admits the function of the DNC is to secure a Democratic Presidential Candidate who will protect Democratic citizen’s interests, fight for their equal opportunities and fight for justice for all Americans.
27. The DNC admits the Democratic National Committee has been promoting Barack Hussein Obama’s Presidential election knowing he was ineligible to serve as President of the United States.
Philip J. Berg, Esquire
555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531
Cell (610) 662-3005
(610) 825-3134
(800) 993-PHIL [7445]
Fax (610) 834-7659
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 Motion for Expedited Ruling on Plaintiff\'s Motion for Order re Req. for Admissi | 67 Kb | |
| Obama, Motion for Order deeming Request for Admissions Admitted.pdf | 227 Kb | |
| Press Release Obama - DNC Admit All Allegations of Federal Court Lawsuit. | 85 Kb |
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Comments (618)
written by steph3, October 21, 2008
You are in my prayers Mr. Berg. Please do not quit, for the sake of our constitution and country. God bless you.
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written by BlueWater1949, October 21, 2008
to make a decision and tell Obama and the DNC what to do. This ain't over.
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written by W, October 21, 2008
PBS Vote for Sarah Palin:
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html
PBS has an online poll posted, asking if Sarah Palin is qualified. Apparently the left wing knew about this in advance and are flooding the voting with NO votes. The poll will be reported on PBS and picked up by mainstream media. It can influence undecided voters.
Please do these two things:
1) Vote YES
2) Send this to every McCain-Palin supporter you know, and urge them to vote and pass it on.
The last thing we need is PBS saying their viewers don't think Sarah Palin is qualified.
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html
PBS has an online poll posted, asking if Sarah Palin is qualified. Apparently the left wing knew about this in advance and are flooding the voting with NO votes. The poll will be reported on PBS and picked up by mainstream media. It can influence undecided voters.
Please do these two things:
1) Vote YES
2) Send this to every McCain-Palin supporter you know, and urge them to vote and pass it on.
The last thing we need is PBS saying their viewers don't think Sarah Palin is qualified.
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written by Philadelphia Roof Doctor, October 21, 2008
michelle wolven,
For a good explanation of what this means:
http://www.americasright.com/
For a good explanation of what this means:
http://www.americasright.com/
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written by steve wilson, October 21, 2008
This is of the utmost importsance.. Obama is not above the law! He should not only be cited for contempt, but the admissions should be allowed as grounds for terminating his candidacy for president.
He has shown his true colors and what he would do if indeed his bid for office were successful, that is to say.... his blatant disregard for the constitution and simple answers to yes/no questions are precursers of sad times to come. By his refusal he has conspired to create a constitutional crisis , i fear one of many unless the court truly follows the the course that they must..
The fear is that Obama will file a Supreme court appeal which will further aggravate the situation, rather than simply provide one document that will answer once and for all the yes/no question.
He has shown his true colors and what he would do if indeed his bid for office were successful, that is to say.... his blatant disregard for the constitution and simple answers to yes/no questions are precursers of sad times to come. By his refusal he has conspired to create a constitutional crisis , i fear one of many unless the court truly follows the the course that they must..
The fear is that Obama will file a Supreme court appeal which will further aggravate the situation, rather than simply provide one document that will answer once and for all the yes/no question.
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written by Lawyer, October 21, 2008
This seriously erodes my confidence in the credibility of Mr. Berg.
Mr. Berg apparently doesn't understand basic civil procedure.
Discovery cannot be served before the parties have conducted a discovery conference. See Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 26(d). Because that hasn't been done yet, Mr. Berg's discovery is improper and need not be responded to.
Second, a motion for a protective order is a response to a discovery request and relieves the moving party from the obligation to respond until the motion is resolved by the court. See Rule 26(c) and the cases interpreting that rule.
Is Mr. Berg ruining this case because he's an incompetent attorney, or is he sabotaging the case on purpose?
Is there any way for a competent and dedicated attorney to intervene and take this over so it is handled right and we don't get thrown out for failing to follow the procedural rules?
Mr. Berg apparently doesn't understand basic civil procedure.
Discovery cannot be served before the parties have conducted a discovery conference. See Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 26(d). Because that hasn't been done yet, Mr. Berg's discovery is improper and need not be responded to.
Second, a motion for a protective order is a response to a discovery request and relieves the moving party from the obligation to respond until the motion is resolved by the court. See Rule 26(c) and the cases interpreting that rule.
Is Mr. Berg ruining this case because he's an incompetent attorney, or is he sabotaging the case on purpose?
Is there any way for a competent and dedicated attorney to intervene and take this over so it is handled right and we don't get thrown out for failing to follow the procedural rules?
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written by for life and justice, October 21, 2008
I know a lot of you are with me on this. There is NO WAY that Obama would take 2 full days off from his campaign to visit his "sick " grandmother. Dying maybe?!! but there was no mention that she was dying. You know he must be up to something sinister.
Should we all start email Sean Hannity and Michael Savage with a copy of the press release? I imagine Mr. Berg already has done so.
So what can we all do to help do our part to make sure this is not ignored?
thank you,
Should we all start email Sean Hannity and Michael Savage with a copy of the press release? I imagine Mr. Berg already has done so.
So what can we all do to help do our part to make sure this is not ignored?
thank you,
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written by Glen Thomas, October 21, 2008
Mr. Berg,
Is there any up date as to the Michele Obama API tape? I'm surprised that you haven't mentioned this as of lately, since we're being told you are the one getting the original tapes by the API.
Any comments Mr Berg?
Is there any up date as to the Michele Obama API tape? I'm surprised that you haven't mentioned this as of lately, since we're being told you are the one getting the original tapes by the API.
Any comments Mr Berg?
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written by jacque mckenna, October 21, 2008
Get him out of here and his wife. He is evil, a liar, and completely goes against everything we as Americans stand for. The fact that he can attract such a following scares the HELL out of me. The only thing he is a leader of is a cult. How is it that he has gotten this far without being a US citizen? We need to shut him down and his campaign now. This is ridiculous.
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written by Ted Park, October 21, 2008
There are interesting counterpoints, however: 1) The judge has not yet decided on either the dismiss or delay petitions; 2) The judge has not ruled on whether he has jurisdiction in the case; nor 3) Has he ruled as to whether the petitioner has standing. I would like to know how any of that impacts this analysis.
In any case, it clearly demonstrates that Obama and DNC are using every legal tactic to subvert the intent of the law - and are at least dangerously close to flaunting the law. Stay tuned.
It also goes to show that this is a complex and dynamic process and highly interesting to the American people, of immense importance to the voting process, and worthy of intense coverage by the Media. Call your local station. If enough local stations - especially in large markets - start reporting this, the national news must follow.
In any case, it clearly demonstrates that Obama and DNC are using every legal tactic to subvert the intent of the law - and are at least dangerously close to flaunting the law. Stay tuned.
It also goes to show that this is a complex and dynamic process and highly interesting to the American people, of immense importance to the voting process, and worthy of intense coverage by the Media. Call your local station. If enough local stations - especially in large markets - start reporting this, the national news must follow.
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written by steve schwartz, October 21, 2008
"Is there any way for a competent and dedicated attorney to intervene and take this over so it is handled right and we don't get thrown out for failing to follow the procedural rules?"
Lawyer,
seeing as you seem to know so much... why not you? I am sure Mr. Berg would welcome the help from such a "competent" lawyer as yourself.
Lawyer,
seeing as you seem to know so much... why not you? I am sure Mr. Berg would welcome the help from such a "competent" lawyer as yourself.
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written by toto, October 21, 2008
Guys, join the hannity forum and post there about this! The more people that post, the better. Hannity reads that forum! He'll be the one to report on this story if there is enough interest!!!! Stop posting here and join their forum NOW!
http://forums.hannity.com/
http://forums.hannity.com/
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written by Kevin Powell, October 21, 2008
God Bless America.
Land that I love
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
From the mountains, to the prairies,
To the oceans, white with foam
God bless America
My home sweet home.
Land that I love
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
From the mountains, to the prairies,
To the oceans, white with foam
God bless America
My home sweet home.
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written by Terry136, October 21, 2008
There seems to be a problem with the link to one of Mr Berg's filings today.
Not Found
The requested URL /attachments/038_Motion for Expedited Ruling on Plaintiff's Motion for Order re Req. for Admissions - Admitted.pdf was not found on this server.
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The requested URL /attachments/038_Motion for Expedited Ruling on Plaintiff's Motion for Order re Req. for Admissions - Admitted.pdf was not found on this server.
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written by Webmaster, October 21, 2008
I checked the links and they are all working. If you continue to have a problem, please let me know.
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written by Maybe, October 21, 2008
Okay, now if the MSM doesn't cover this, I don't know when they will!!!!! Berg, you need to recontact those reporters who told you they would cover this if the judge ruled, and explain that this is almost as good. Start with Hannity on FOX cable news!
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written by Hopeful, October 21, 2008
Phillip Berg - are you in contact with Andy Martin, in Hawaii at all? I am worried about Obama's visit to his "sick grandmother" just when Martin was going to reveal three parts of Obama fraud about his citizenship. Perhaps you should ask Andy to visit grandma and get a sworn deposition from her!
Equally as important, and I know this sounds paranoid, but someone should be following Obama's every move in Hawaii, as well as contact the SEcretary of State to be sure any birth certificate is guarded well while he is there!
Equally as important, and I know this sounds paranoid, but someone should be following Obama's every move in Hawaii, as well as contact the SEcretary of State to be sure any birth certificate is guarded well while he is there!
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written by BlueWater1949, October 21, 2008
We need to know when the judge will rule. What is the status?
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written by Mikes0727, October 21, 2008
Savage, Ingraham, O'Reilly, Greta, ALL of them know about these
lawsuits. They won't mention them on air, so it's up to US
to flood their blogs, and any political blog with links to this site.
We CAN do this in a few days. Obamacrimes.com has gone viral
and is over 51 million hits!
lawsuits. They won't mention them on air, so it's up to US
to flood their blogs, and any political blog with links to this site.
We CAN do this in a few days. Obamacrimes.com has gone viral
and is over 51 million hits!
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written by Philadelphia Roof Doctor, October 21, 2008
BlueWater1949,
The webmaster would be a technical type of person, not a lawyer.
That said, even if he was a lawyer, he wouldn't have the slightest idea of when the judge will rule. That's up to the judge and no one else.
The webmaster would be a technical type of person, not a lawyer.
That said, even if he was a lawyer, he wouldn't have the slightest idea of when the judge will rule. That's up to the judge and no one else.
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written by daniel, October 21, 2008
VOTE BO DOWN Novemeber 4, 2008. Take names and prosecute all those who were involved with attack on America after he is DEFEATED.
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written by Conservalicious, October 21, 2008
Isn't it ironic that Obama is suspending his campaign to visit his sick Grandmother? If she was really that sick, why wait till Thursday to leave? Something's up. This stinks to high Heaven.
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written by wqflagwaver, October 21, 2008
Answers are NOT Overdue
written by Lawyer, October 21, 2008
"This seriously erodes my confidence in the credibility of Mr. Berg.
Mr. Berg apparently doesn't understand basic civil procedure.
Discovery cannot be served before the parties have conducted a discovery conference. See Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 26(d). Because that hasn't been done yet, Mr. Berg's discovery is improper and need not be responded to.
Second, a motion for a protective order is a response to a discovery request and relieves the moving party from the obligation to respond until the motion is resolved by the court. See Rule 26(c) and the cases interpreting that rule. "
WHAT'S GOING ON! WHO IS CORRECT HERE? I hope this doesn't compromise the case. Do you know that it was announced ALL over the media (an Obama "press release") that he is "GOING TO HAWAII ON THURSDAY TO VISIT HIS SICK GRANDMOTHER"??? We just had TWO articles in the Honolulu Advertiser regarding this case and the Board of Health director is having great pressure put on her to RELEASE the document, which she refuses to.
COINCIDENCE???
written by Lawyer, October 21, 2008
"This seriously erodes my confidence in the credibility of Mr. Berg.
Mr. Berg apparently doesn't understand basic civil procedure.
Discovery cannot be served before the parties have conducted a discovery conference. See Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 26(d). Because that hasn't been done yet, Mr. Berg's discovery is improper and need not be responded to.
Second, a motion for a protective order is a response to a discovery request and relieves the moving party from the obligation to respond until the motion is resolved by the court. See Rule 26(c) and the cases interpreting that rule. "
WHAT'S GOING ON! WHO IS CORRECT HERE? I hope this doesn't compromise the case. Do you know that it was announced ALL over the media (an Obama "press release") that he is "GOING TO HAWAII ON THURSDAY TO VISIT HIS SICK GRANDMOTHER"??? We just had TWO articles in the Honolulu Advertiser regarding this case and the Board of Health director is having great pressure put on her to RELEASE the document, which she refuses to.
COINCIDENCE???
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written by wqflagwaver, October 21, 2008
Oh, btw:
OBAMA'S GRANDMOTHER IS THE ONLY WITNESS - REPEATEDLY SAID SHE WAS IN THE DELIVERY ROOM -- IN KENYA!!
OBAMA'S GRANDMOTHER IS THE ONLY WITNESS - REPEATEDLY SAID SHE WAS IN THE DELIVERY ROOM -- IN KENYA!!
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written by MountainSage, October 21, 2008
The link to:
(Motion for Expedited Ruling on Plaintiff's Motion for Order re Req. for Admissi)Motion for Expedited Ruling on Plaintiff's Motion for Order re Req. for Admissi
is broken.
(Motion for Expedited Ruling on Plaintiff's Motion for Order re Req. for Admissi)Motion for Expedited Ruling on Plaintiff's Motion for Order re Req. for Admissi
is broken.
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written by Webmaster, October 21, 2008
I can assure you that Mr. Berg is pursuing legal remedies at the earliest possible dates, given the court procedures and guidelines he must follow. Mr. Berg is not posting information about his strategy, but is publishing press releases and court documents as events transpire so that the visitors to this website will be fully informed.
If you review the filings, you will note that Mr. Berg has filed his responses to defendants filings immediately.
It is Mr. Berg's desire to get this case resolved at the earliest possible moment and he is acting accordingly.
If you review the filings, you will note that Mr. Berg has filed his responses to defendants filings immediately.
It is Mr. Berg's desire to get this case resolved at the earliest possible moment and he is acting accordingly.
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written by Terry136, October 21, 2008
I checked the links and they are all working. If you continue to have a problem, please let me know.
I just tried the link again, and get the same error. Here's the error I get:
Not Found
The requested URL /attachments/038_Motion for Expedited Ruling on Plaintiff's Motion for Order re Req. for Admissions - Admitted.pdf was not found on this server.
Could the wayward "" in the word "Plaintiff's" be part of the problem?
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written by daniel, October 21, 2008
Will it be Rev. Wright, or Louie Fairrykan who will give obama the oath of office?
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written by Terry136, October 21, 2008
Oops!! That last message should have had "To Webmaster" as the title. We'll try again.
I just tried the link again, and get the same error. Here's the error I get:
Not Found
The requested URL /attachments/038_Motion for Expedited Ruling on Plaintiff's Motion for Order re Req. for Admissions - Admitted.pdf was not found on this server.
Could the wayward back slash in the word "Plaintiff's" be part of the problem? For some reason, the back slash doesn't show up when I copy/paste the URL.
I checked the links and they are all working. If you continue to have a problem, please let me know.
I just tried the link again, and get the same error. Here's the error I get:
Not Found
The requested URL /attachments/038_Motion for Expedited Ruling on Plaintiff's Motion for Order re Req. for Admissions - Admitted.pdf was not found on this server.
Could the wayward back slash in the word "Plaintiff's" be part of the problem? For some reason, the back slash doesn't show up when I copy/paste the URL.
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written by Don , October 21, 2008
This could be the reason Obama has suspended his campaign. Take a look at the following link.
http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/
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written by Terry136, October 21, 2008
I think Obama instructed his lawyer(s) NOT to respond to the Request For Admissions. That way, even though the admissions are admitted into the court proceedings, Obama can say, "I didn't admit to anything"
Makes sense to me.
Makes sense to me.
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written by Nick, October 21, 2008
Could it be I haven't seen this in the MSM, mostly FOX news because the Judge hasn't ruled on the admittance? Like if the Judge does rule on it and it in favor of Mr. Berg then we will hear about it in the MSM? I mean it couldn't really be ignored after one a Pennsylvania Judge order Obama to be ineligable.
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written by Gemma, October 21, 2008
NEXT STEP, OBAMA WILL GO TO PRISION INSTEAD OF THE WHITE HOUSE.
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written by Philly, October 21, 2008
http://www.dell.com/business/d...3~0~861680
Stop the Obama Constitutional Crisis
Sign the Petition : 25,172 Letters and Emails Sent So Far
A lawsuit has been filed with the Pennsylvania Eastern District Court requiring Mr. Obama to produce documents to prove he is constitutionally qualified to run for President. So far Mr. Obama has refused to produce the documents and is trying to fight the court order to produce the documents. Any American should be able to prove citizenship in less than a day. Why can't Mr. Obama?
Here is a link to the actual court documents - http://news.justia.com/cases/f...83/281573/
A constitutional crisis will rip our country apart. If this is not cleared up now we will have a crisis. If you care at all about America you must call for Mr. Obama to produce the documents and prove that he is eligible to be President.
Please call on Mr. Obama to produce the documents to prove his constitutional qualifications.
Thank you
Stop the Obama Constitutional Crisis
Sign the Petition : 25,172 Letters and Emails Sent So Far
A lawsuit has been filed with the Pennsylvania Eastern District Court requiring Mr. Obama to produce documents to prove he is constitutionally qualified to run for President. So far Mr. Obama has refused to produce the documents and is trying to fight the court order to produce the documents. Any American should be able to prove citizenship in less than a day. Why can't Mr. Obama?
Here is a link to the actual court documents - http://news.justia.com/cases/f...83/281573/
A constitutional crisis will rip our country apart. If this is not cleared up now we will have a crisis. If you care at all about America you must call for Mr. Obama to produce the documents and prove that he is eligible to be President.
Please call on Mr. Obama to produce the documents to prove his constitutional qualifications.
Thank you
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written by Benjamin Bagnal, October 21, 2008
"Second, a motion for a protective order is a response to a discovery request and relieves the moving party from the obligation to respond until the motion is resolved by the court. See Rule 26(c) and the cases interpreting that rule. "
Lawyer - based upon my reading of the rule, I would think the protective order filed by Obama would take precedence over any requirement for a discovery conference. Perhaps these most recent filings by Mr. Berg will prompt the judge to rule on the protective order and/or motion to dismiss. In any event, it's looking more and more apparent that Obama and the DNC are confident they can delay any discovery in this case until after the election.
Perhaps it's the action filed by Martin in Honolulu that has Obama really worried and is the real reason he is suspending his campaign and giving up 2 full days on the trial, when only 14 days are left. It was indicated by MSM that Obama would be traveling with staff . . . Lawyers perhaps?
Lawyer - based upon my reading of the rule, I would think the protective order filed by Obama would take precedence over any requirement for a discovery conference. Perhaps these most recent filings by Mr. Berg will prompt the judge to rule on the protective order and/or motion to dismiss. In any event, it's looking more and more apparent that Obama and the DNC are confident they can delay any discovery in this case until after the election.
Perhaps it's the action filed by Martin in Honolulu that has Obama really worried and is the real reason he is suspending his campaign and giving up 2 full days on the trial, when only 14 days are left. It was indicated by MSM that Obama would be traveling with staff . . . Lawyers perhaps?
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written by wqflagwaver, October 21, 2008
ANDY MARTIN GO GET A STATEMENT FROM GRANDMA! I think she's in the hospital since she fell down. Can you act like a doctor?? 
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written by BO is up to Something!!!, October 21, 2008
I have a question. The campaign said BO would be back on Saturday to campaign, so does that mean he knows his Grandmother will be healed by his presence, or that he expects that is enough time for her to die and have a funeral just in time for him to get back on the campaign trail??? LMAO!!! Anyone else wondering how he has a time line for his Grandmother's illness, but SERIOUSLY, when the elders in my family were sick, we waited for days or weeks. Or does he just plan on checking in a hotel, eating some fancy meals per donation money, saying goodbye to Granny, destroying all evidence of anything she owns that would prove he is not a US citizen and then leave to continue his campaign of fraud? Just thinking out loud!! ROFL!!
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written by Paige, October 21, 2008
Berg lawsuit made The Bulletin (a Philly paper)
http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=20171644&BRD;=2737&PAG;=461&dept;_id=576361&rfi;=8
I have a feeling we're at the point of go big or go broke...
http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=20171644&BRD;=2737&PAG;=461&dept;_id=576361&rfi;=8
I have a feeling we're at the point of go big or go broke...
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written by Julie, October 21, 2008
Now.....what exactly does this mean?
As the law goes, is it really an admission of the charges that Obama is NOT a natural born citizen and NOT qualified to be President?
Is there anything that Obama can try to "pull" to get out of this? What is our next step?
As the law goes, is it really an admission of the charges that Obama is NOT a natural born citizen and NOT qualified to be President?
Is there anything that Obama can try to "pull" to get out of this? What is our next step?
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written by pat t, October 21, 2008
Hearing about Granny and her illness, I confess my immediate thought was that Barky was going to Hawaii to snuff out poor ol' Granny so that her deposition could never be taken and no one could get an interview.
Is this maybe too dark, disturbed even for BO?*
* Omitting the 'H' in BHO on account of Barky's wishes that we never use it (it's racist and Islamophobic).
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Is this maybe too dark, disturbed even for BO?*
* Omitting the 'H' in BHO on account of Barky's wishes that we never use it (it's racist and Islamophobic).
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written by BAMMAZDONE, October 21, 2008
I support Mr. Berg, and his help with exposing this. I emailed a local news station where I live, and sent them the link to this site. My son just contacted them via phone to see if they are looking into this. According to the newsdesk, they are getting emails regarding this and are putting together a story. The MSM may not wish to report this, but perhaps by contacting our local news outlets, enough will get out there than the MSM will have no choice but to report on it. If/when our local station reports on this we'll post the link!!!
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written by TheNightFly, October 21, 2008
This Obama campaign is merely a symptom of greater social crisis in America. We're overrun by traitors, terrorists and subversives. Our elected officials aren't protecting our rights, they're writing laws and forming multinational pacts to maintain their power and wealth at the expense of our liberties. American kids are growing up hating their country and themselves. They don't trust or care about the system or the process because of all the corruption. They're embracing socialist principles over free market principles and they're roaming our streets in gangs terrorizing and assaulting whoever they don't approve of. We even have radical American Muslims forming secret criminal organizations dedicated to systematically overthrowing our government and our whole way of life. That's how we got to this point, with a man like Obama running for President. Good Americans keep ignoring bad Americans hoping they will all go away but they're here and the problems they're causing are getting worse. How can anybody be so surprised? This is how all of the major empires of history were destroyed, it's how Europe was recently destroyed, and it's how we are about to be destroyed if we don't deal with it soon. [/rant]
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written by Steve, October 21, 2008
More Obamobots... Here they come!!! I hope you realize you guys are just hurting and destryoing your ownself... Keep doing it... Keep up the good work of spreading your lies... Your not posting enough on here...
Go ahead vote for your man Obama and watch your country turn into something far worse then the former Soviet Union...I'm sure you will enjoy that since you dont even know whats coming to you!!!
Go ahead vote for your man Obama and watch your country turn into something far worse then the former Soviet Union...I'm sure you will enjoy that since you dont even know whats coming to you!!!
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written by Bill Green, October 21, 2008
Even the conservative press (incl. newsmax and wnd) is strikingly silent on this, only the blogs are carrying it at all. I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone. This is getting scary. Two court cases submitted by high profile plaintiffs! Granted, it is not settled yet and there may really be nothing to it, but it is clearly news worthy, for goodness sake! Does anyone have any hints on what's going on out there? I know I've emailed the conservative outlets and fox, and I'm sure they'vegotten many such emails, and yet there is only this spooky silence.
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written by Joseph, October 21, 2008
I hope all of this true. When can we expect to see some action?
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written by Wayne From Jeremiah Films, October 21, 2008
I have added your post to Jeremiah Films' BlogWatch: Main Stream Media Vetting Candidates?
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written by Tom, October 21, 2008
Hello the defenders of the Constitution of the USA and of the highest position in the land, the Presidential position of the USA,
My big thanks for the courageous case brought by Mr. Berg. Never give up, Mr. Berg and make sure that you double, triple, quadruple checks on any "valid" (but based on false facts) documents that Hussein and his gang might come up with in this case.
Maybe Hussein is in Hawaii to get a "valid" (but based on false facts) full birth certificate!!! Let me explain :-) We all know that the pro-Obama people in Hawaii are the majority and therefore it is legitimate to assume that Hussein Obama could manage to get, be offered I should say, a "valid" (but based on false facts) full birth certificate to bail him out from this legal challenge and that he might travel to Hawaii only to get handed out personally this "valid" (but based on false facts) full birth certificate!!
Is it too far-fetched to think this way?
If you think it is, what do you think is the fact that a runner for the PotUSA managed to get the Democratic nomination and then run for the presidential election of the USA even though he duped, lied to ALL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BY RUNNING AND THEREFORE INDIRECTLY CLAIMING FALSELY AND DISHONESTLY TO BE ELIGIBLE TO RUN FOR THE PotUSA WHEN HE KNEW VERY WELL THAT HE WAS NOT ELIGIBLE AT ALL TO RUN FOR THE PotUSA position.
Rest assured, if fully uncovered, Hussein is going to come up with a story to wash his dishonest hands and give him an honorable exit!!! I did not know this or that point kind of story, if you know what I mean :-)
Obama is:
- a liar,
- a closet Muslim,
- a false and insincere convert to Christianity who converted only for political gains (when Gaddafi, Farrakhan, and all his Muslim Kenyan family still consider Obama as a Muslim),
- a member of a previous church for more than 20 years whose message was (and still is) hate against whites, hate against America and Americans and their values, pro-terrorist with Hamas, anti-Semite and systematically anti-Israel,
and for such a candidate we should let him run for the PotUSA position!! It might be another racist affirmative action in disguise!!
My big thanks for the courageous case brought by Mr. Berg. Never give up, Mr. Berg and make sure that you double, triple, quadruple checks on any "valid" (but based on false facts) documents that Hussein and his gang might come up with in this case.
Maybe Hussein is in Hawaii to get a "valid" (but based on false facts) full birth certificate!!! Let me explain :-) We all know that the pro-Obama people in Hawaii are the majority and therefore it is legitimate to assume that Hussein Obama could manage to get, be offered I should say, a "valid" (but based on false facts) full birth certificate to bail him out from this legal challenge and that he might travel to Hawaii only to get handed out personally this "valid" (but based on false facts) full birth certificate!!
Is it too far-fetched to think this way?
If you think it is, what do you think is the fact that a runner for the PotUSA managed to get the Democratic nomination and then run for the presidential election of the USA even though he duped, lied to ALL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BY RUNNING AND THEREFORE INDIRECTLY CLAIMING FALSELY AND DISHONESTLY TO BE ELIGIBLE TO RUN FOR THE PotUSA WHEN HE KNEW VERY WELL THAT HE WAS NOT ELIGIBLE AT ALL TO RUN FOR THE PotUSA position.
Rest assured, if fully uncovered, Hussein is going to come up with a story to wash his dishonest hands and give him an honorable exit!!! I did not know this or that point kind of story, if you know what I mean :-)
Obama is:
- a liar,
- a closet Muslim,
- a false and insincere convert to Christianity who converted only for political gains (when Gaddafi, Farrakhan, and all his Muslim Kenyan family still consider Obama as a Muslim),
- a member of a previous church for more than 20 years whose message was (and still is) hate against whites, hate against America and Americans and their values, pro-terrorist with Hamas, anti-Semite and systematically anti-Israel,
and for such a candidate we should let him run for the PotUSA position!! It might be another racist affirmative action in disguise!!
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written by Benjamin, October 21, 2008
mel - where is the press? That question has been bugging me too . . . but I've come up with a couple of theories: (1) Perhaps someone like Fox is hesitant to cover it - because they would lose credibility if the whole thing is debunked; and (2) the media are literally terrified of this issue. Let's assume the worse. What if BHO is elected - and then it comes to light that he is indeed not qualified. I think Americans would fall into two categories:
(1) The majority of Americans would be shocked and outraged that Obama has perpetrated the biggest fraud and cover up in American political history; and
(2) Those blind followers of The One who would be furious that - after winning the election - their Messiah was being brought down because of some "legal technicalities."
We've already heard threats that there would be violence if Obama were to lose the election - so imagine the reaction by some if he is elected, but then must be removed because of a statute that says his mother was 1 year too young to convey natural born status to him after his birth on foreign soil.
In any event, I'm still mystified why an outlet like Fox wouldn't just cover the fact that the case exists - and the fact that Obama has been throwing lawyers and motions at it, rather than simply providing the documentation required.
(1) The majority of Americans would be shocked and outraged that Obama has perpetrated the biggest fraud and cover up in American political history; and
(2) Those blind followers of The One who would be furious that - after winning the election - their Messiah was being brought down because of some "legal technicalities."
We've already heard threats that there would be violence if Obama were to lose the election - so imagine the reaction by some if he is elected, but then must be removed because of a statute that says his mother was 1 year too young to convey natural born status to him after his birth on foreign soil.
In any event, I'm still mystified why an outlet like Fox wouldn't just cover the fact that the case exists - and the fact that Obama has been throwing lawyers and motions at it, rather than simply providing the documentation required.
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written by Susanna Ortiz, October 21, 2008
I wanted to see why nothing was being mentioned on the pending lawsuit that Mr Berg has filed against Obama. So thinking that it may not be real, I called to the Court House at 267-299-7082 for the Records Dept, and I gave the CIVIL ACTION NO. 2:08-cv-04083-RBS, and I found that this is a true lawsuit, according to the man in the records dept. Please forward this to as many emails and news stations, radio stations, etc. This is big! It would have been all over the news a long time ago if it was false. This is why it's hush-hush...
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written by David08, October 21, 2008
As we know they could have mailed the response and it will come in and be accepted due to post date. Or ask for extension.
But I've been giving the press release to all the media sources I have in my address book. Then I begin looking on the media sites for other contacts.
Please do the same. They will hopefully look into it before they bury it again. Or maybe it will be covered by someone. Patience and perseverance is required at this point.
If you can fax to pols like the China Queen Feinstein it is better than an email. Paper has to be shredded and email only requires a delete key from an employee.
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TERRORISTS ENDORSE AND FUND
Osama Hussein Obama
Whose side are you on?
But I've been giving the press release to all the media sources I have in my address book. Then I begin looking on the media sites for other contacts.
Please do the same. They will hopefully look into it before they bury it again. Or maybe it will be covered by someone. Patience and perseverance is required at this point.
If you can fax to pols like the China Queen Feinstein it is better than an email. Paper has to be shredded and email only requires a delete key from an employee.
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TERRORISTS ENDORSE AND FUND
Osama Hussein Obama
Whose side are you on?
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written by Prayers are needed now, October 21, 2008
I am a Roman Catholic who is praying to St. Anthony (the saint who finds things) to have this information on Obama brought out into the open for all of the citizens of this country and the world to see. I believe that eventually ALL will see who and what Obama represents. I just hope it is before the election and not after. Those of you who are Catholic can pray to St. Anthony and then pray to St. Michael the Archangel to protect all those who are trying to bring Obama's truths to into the light of day.
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written by Jeff, October 21, 2008
As far as the requests to admit, I'm not sure I see any logical reason for not answering. Typically the Requests for Admission are on a faster track than the rest of written discovery and in the end really have no teeth regardless of what is admitted or denied. If I'm BO, why not just deny everything that I have been proclaiming is false and get on with it?
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written by Benjamin Bagnal, October 21, 2008
"you're an idiot. go to factcheck.org and stop the frivolous lawsuits."
OK Kate - if the document posted on the internet and the document factcheck.org supposedly examined are legit - then why won't Obama just produce a copy of the long (vault) version of his BC which would be on file in Honolulu? That would put an end to all this speculation and these lawsuits, right?
OK Kate - if the document posted on the internet and the document factcheck.org supposedly examined are legit - then why won't Obama just produce a copy of the long (vault) version of his BC which would be on file in Honolulu? That would put an end to all this speculation and these lawsuits, right?
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written by Chatty Kathy, October 21, 2008
We need to call our t.v. stations and email them, if everyone here does this and copies the link, sooner or later they are bound to check it out. What about an email to Rush Limbaugh? BO bought primetime air time with almost all the national channels, but he didn't buy our local stations, I have a feeling the CEOs of Fox, CNN, NBC, etc. all told the news, a/k/a MSM to not report negatively against their highest paying customer. Mr. Berg, WAY TO GO!!! Don't think your voices won't be heard, there's power to the people, they can't ignore hundreds of emails, or phone calls.
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written by Donna, October 21, 2008
Barack Obama and Andy Martin confront each other in Honolulu
Andy Martin’s investigative team provokes a “suspension” of Obama’s campaign and a desperate trip to Hawai'i by the presidential candidate
The drama builds to a Hollywood “High Noon” confrontation between good and evil
ANDY MARTIN
Executive Editor
ContrarianCommentary.com
“Factually Correct, Not
Politically Correct”
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Barack Obama and his nemesis, Obama author Andy Martin, face off in Honolulu
Martin’s Hawai’i investigaiton causes Obama to panic and suspend his presidential campaign to head off Andy’s stories.
NOTE: Today’s scheduled column has been preempted because of the suspension of the Obama campaign. “Obama and Islam, Again” will appear next Monday. (Part Two of the Hawai’i series will appear as scheduled on Tuesday the 21st. Our calendar was thrown off schedule by the birth certificate litigation.)
Chicago crusader Andy Martin is on the verge of taking down the Obama campaign
(HONOLULU, HI)(October 20, 200
You have to turn to Hollywood and “High Noon” to find more drama than the confrontation building in Hawai’i. The good sheriff stands alone against the Obama Gang. Eliot Ness and the Untouchables? The Long Ranger? Pick your own hero. Martin vs. Obama explodes into a Hollywood classic.
I will do my best to defeat Obama even though I essentially stand alone. I stand tall. All of the protagonists are from Chicago. Despite ridicule and envy from Chicago’s corrupt mainstream media, I have spent over forty years successfully fighting crooked politicians like Barack Obama and his Daley Machine cronies.
But take a look at one of the most dramatic time lines in recent political history.
Two weeks ago on October 5th Sean Hannity aired a program that terrified the Obama campaign. You can probably see my role at FoxNews.com or on YouTube. The New York Times itself reported that the morning after Hannity’s program, I became the target of a massive liberal assault at the Times. On October 6th I wrote a column predicting that Hannity’s show would become the most important political program of 2008. On direct orders from the Emperor Obama, the New York Times then unleashed its smear machine on me.
One week ago, on October 13th, the Times tried to destroy me with a front-page package of lies, distortions and outright fraud. The Times failed. My investigative team arrived in Hawai’i and began to dig, dig, dig.
I also predicted in a column that attacking me was the first big mistake Obama and the Times had committed. You be the judge of whether I am being proven correct.
I am still standing and the Times’ credibility is going into the toilet.
Before my team left for Hawai’i I predicted we would bring down Obama. By sheer coincidence, one TV network was interested in my mission and has been tagging along with a camera crew.
Monday (today) we petitioned the Hawai’i Supreme Court to order Obama’s secret birth records released.
How did Obama respond? He suddenly discovered that his grandmother, who had supposedly been released from her hospital a week ago, when he showed no interest in her, needed his immediate attention. Cool, calm, collected Obama suddenly suspended his campaign and headed for Hawai’i.
High Noon.
To read the rest go here: http://www.contrariancommentar...fault.aspx
Andy Martin’s investigative team provokes a “suspension” of Obama’s campaign and a desperate trip to Hawai'i by the presidential candidate
The drama builds to a Hollywood “High Noon” confrontation between good and evil
ANDY MARTIN
Executive Editor
ContrarianCommentary.com
“Factually Correct, Not
Politically Correct”
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Barack Obama and his nemesis, Obama author Andy Martin, face off in Honolulu
Martin’s Hawai’i investigaiton causes Obama to panic and suspend his presidential campaign to head off Andy’s stories.
NOTE: Today’s scheduled column has been preempted because of the suspension of the Obama campaign. “Obama and Islam, Again” will appear next Monday. (Part Two of the Hawai’i series will appear as scheduled on Tuesday the 21st. Our calendar was thrown off schedule by the birth certificate litigation.)
Chicago crusader Andy Martin is on the verge of taking down the Obama campaign
(HONOLULU, HI)(October 20, 200
You have to turn to Hollywood and “High Noon” to find more drama than the confrontation building in Hawai’i. The good sheriff stands alone against the Obama Gang. Eliot Ness and the Untouchables? The Long Ranger? Pick your own hero. Martin vs. Obama explodes into a Hollywood classic. I will do my best to defeat Obama even though I essentially stand alone. I stand tall. All of the protagonists are from Chicago. Despite ridicule and envy from Chicago’s corrupt mainstream media, I have spent over forty years successfully fighting crooked politicians like Barack Obama and his Daley Machine cronies.
But take a look at one of the most dramatic time lines in recent political history.
Two weeks ago on October 5th Sean Hannity aired a program that terrified the Obama campaign. You can probably see my role at FoxNews.com or on YouTube. The New York Times itself reported that the morning after Hannity’s program, I became the target of a massive liberal assault at the Times. On October 6th I wrote a column predicting that Hannity’s show would become the most important political program of 2008. On direct orders from the Emperor Obama, the New York Times then unleashed its smear machine on me.
One week ago, on October 13th, the Times tried to destroy me with a front-page package of lies, distortions and outright fraud. The Times failed. My investigative team arrived in Hawai’i and began to dig, dig, dig.
I also predicted in a column that attacking me was the first big mistake Obama and the Times had committed. You be the judge of whether I am being proven correct.
I am still standing and the Times’ credibility is going into the toilet.
Before my team left for Hawai’i I predicted we would bring down Obama. By sheer coincidence, one TV network was interested in my mission and has been tagging along with a camera crew.
Monday (today) we petitioned the Hawai’i Supreme Court to order Obama’s secret birth records released.
How did Obama respond? He suddenly discovered that his grandmother, who had supposedly been released from her hospital a week ago, when he showed no interest in her, needed his immediate attention. Cool, calm, collected Obama suddenly suspended his campaign and headed for Hawai’i.
High Noon.
To read the rest go here: http://www.contrariancommentar...fault.aspx
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written by David08, October 21, 2008
Swade are you saying a communist is more qualified to run this country? If you don't realize by now that every word out of the Overbama's mouth is lie, you are delusional. Pols lie to get elected and any voter who doesn't get this, do their homework and check the backgrounds shouldn't be allowed to vote.
People who recieve taxpayers money from the government shouldn't be allowed to vote. Yes in the world of law, not answering is admitting.
Lesbeth you are surprised that the media is not covering this???? Please be advised, if you turn on the tube and attempt to recieve truthful information, read a newspaper or check the alphabet media online, they are lying. They are the equivalent of The Pravda in Soviet Russia.
People who recieve taxpayers money from the government shouldn't be allowed to vote. Yes in the world of law, not answering is admitting.
Lesbeth you are surprised that the media is not covering this???? Please be advised, if you turn on the tube and attempt to recieve truthful information, read a newspaper or check the alphabet media online, they are lying. They are the equivalent of The Pravda in Soviet Russia.
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written by gotcitizenship, October 21, 2008
The FEC just filed to dismiss based on a lack of jurisdiction.
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written by Benzanidiotmoron, October 21, 2008
because Ben just came out from under a rock, here you go Ben, made it easy for you.
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/obama-ayers-annenberg-and-acorn-a-family-affair/
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/obama-ayers-annenberg-and-acorn-a-family-affair/
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written by TheNightFly, October 21, 2008
The Constitution requires that all elected presidents be natural born citizens.
That means they must prove their citizenship to somebody somewhere.
Unless and until they do so, they can't take office.
So, even if Obama gets elected, he's not moving into the White House.
That means they must prove their citizenship to somebody somewhere.
Unless and until they do so, they can't take office.
So, even if Obama gets elected, he's not moving into the White House.
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written by Marilynn Sollars, October 21, 2008
I, too, called the Court House for the Records Department. When I heard Obama is going to see his critically ill grandmother two days from now; the first thing I thought of was I just wonder if he's going to get that birth certificate....or forged, or whatever.
If my grandmother was critically ill, I'd be right there to see her before she passed. I thought she'd been critically ill for some time............ Oh well. This is really BIG, BIG, BIG - and the mere fact that this information was not provided initially before the primaries is unconscionable. What is with our nation? The absolutely best thing that could happen at this point is that Obama is lying and off the campaign, or is not lying and the multiple citizenship and delay in presenting information to Mr. Berg, is enough to stop FAITH for the messiah for at least enough percentages to place John McCain in office - I remind you, tho, that I wouldn't even bet on that - the liberals have become so hateful and such liars and cheats, that maybe nothing is beyond their means. I'm
so sick of the unfair bias of the media, the Hollywood connections, the black supremest fears, the ministers who aren't Christian, the gaffs, the plundering of good people by the press...........I would have never thought a mass of people in this country could be so hatefully cruel and deceitful. Whatever happens, I thank Mr. Berg for being a true patriot in these hideous times.
If my grandmother was critically ill, I'd be right there to see her before she passed. I thought she'd been critically ill for some time............ Oh well. This is really BIG, BIG, BIG - and the mere fact that this information was not provided initially before the primaries is unconscionable. What is with our nation? The absolutely best thing that could happen at this point is that Obama is lying and off the campaign, or is not lying and the multiple citizenship and delay in presenting information to Mr. Berg, is enough to stop FAITH for the messiah for at least enough percentages to place John McCain in office - I remind you, tho, that I wouldn't even bet on that - the liberals have become so hateful and such liars and cheats, that maybe nothing is beyond their means. I'm
so sick of the unfair bias of the media, the Hollywood connections, the black supremest fears, the ministers who aren't Christian, the gaffs, the plundering of good people by the press...........I would have never thought a mass of people in this country could be so hatefully cruel and deceitful. Whatever happens, I thank Mr. Berg for being a true patriot in these hideous times.
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written by arkady, October 21, 2008
Can anyone explain whether or not this last post from Berg means anything? Quite a few posters here suggested that it does not, Jeff at americasright.com gave an explanation - but not one that my mind can comprehend.
http://rkdpolitics.blogspot.com/
http://rkdpolitics.blogspot.com/
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written by mege, October 21, 2008
Swade,
I am afraid that it is people like you and those who think like you that are going to get this country into a lot of trouble.
On the issues, McCain is more than right!
On foreign policy it is scary to think of our President negotiating without preconditions with the dangerous characters of the world.
On economic policy - Obama's plan will keep us in recession for years to come. DOn't believe me? Look at FDR and the New Deal - we went from a Depression to a recession (better but..) however the country was in recession until WW2 - economic historians have proven it was due to the tax and spend policy of FDR.
The truly bigger issue is "Who is Obama" I am always shocked that people like yourself do not have a problem that someone who could not pass an FBI security clearance check for a job is running for the job of President. It bothers me that Obama has not been completely forthwright about his friendship with Ayers #1 - I don't care that Obama was only 8 when Ayers did his bombing - there is no statute of limitations on terrorism - I wouldn't shake the guy's hand. The bigger issue is that they spent almost 200 million dollars "trying" to improve education in Chicago by the giving the money to several radical community groups - didn't improve education-big surprise. I don't want this guy having anything to do with working on improving education-period. I don't like the fact that Ayer's father's friend is CHavez...Ayers is Obama's friend...
But my biggest diappointment in liberals and Democrats is that they haven't taken the time to read any of James Cone's books on Black Liberation Theology which Obama's church is based on. Twenty years in a church that celebrates HATE towards whites and the USA. WHere is your head?
Sen. Obama was mentored all through his teenage years by a communist and he even makes communist like statements in his own books (again most people voting for him haven't bothered to read)
Sen. Obama does not love America - he loves what he can change America into....
So Swade you have been warned - don't you dare snivel IF Obama is elected and you don't like everything that is happening. (You didn't find it disturbing that "Joe the Plumber" was crucified after the Messaih a question - nothing like intimidating others so they don't ask...)
If Sen. Obama is not qualified to run then he has perpetrated a huge fraud against the U.S. - I know the DNC did not vet him because when I spoke to one of Howard Dean's staff members she told me that he had to have been vetted to be a U.S. senator so there was no need for them to do it - SORRY! The rules are not the same. I feel sorry for you Swade - keep drinking the kool-aid because you will need hard liquor if Obama is elected!
I am afraid that it is people like you and those who think like you that are going to get this country into a lot of trouble.
On the issues, McCain is more than right!
On foreign policy it is scary to think of our President negotiating without preconditions with the dangerous characters of the world.
On economic policy - Obama's plan will keep us in recession for years to come. DOn't believe me? Look at FDR and the New Deal - we went from a Depression to a recession (better but..) however the country was in recession until WW2 - economic historians have proven it was due to the tax and spend policy of FDR.
The truly bigger issue is "Who is Obama" I am always shocked that people like yourself do not have a problem that someone who could not pass an FBI security clearance check for a job is running for the job of President. It bothers me that Obama has not been completely forthwright about his friendship with Ayers #1 - I don't care that Obama was only 8 when Ayers did his bombing - there is no statute of limitations on terrorism - I wouldn't shake the guy's hand. The bigger issue is that they spent almost 200 million dollars "trying" to improve education in Chicago by the giving the money to several radical community groups - didn't improve education-big surprise. I don't want this guy having anything to do with working on improving education-period. I don't like the fact that Ayer's father's friend is CHavez...Ayers is Obama's friend...
But my biggest diappointment in liberals and Democrats is that they haven't taken the time to read any of James Cone's books on Black Liberation Theology which Obama's church is based on. Twenty years in a church that celebrates HATE towards whites and the USA. WHere is your head?
Sen. Obama was mentored all through his teenage years by a communist and he even makes communist like statements in his own books (again most people voting for him haven't bothered to read)
Sen. Obama does not love America - he loves what he can change America into....
So Swade you have been warned - don't you dare snivel IF Obama is elected and you don't like everything that is happening. (You didn't find it disturbing that "Joe the Plumber" was crucified after the Messaih a question - nothing like intimidating others so they don't ask...)
If Sen. Obama is not qualified to run then he has perpetrated a huge fraud against the U.S. - I know the DNC did not vet him because when I spoke to one of Howard Dean's staff members she told me that he had to have been vetted to be a U.S. senator so there was no need for them to do it - SORRY! The rules are not the same. I feel sorry for you Swade - keep drinking the kool-aid because you will need hard liquor if Obama is elected!
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written by Ken Trainer, October 21, 2008
the FEC has filed just now today. Not good. Everyone is fighting the Constitution. Where and when does the govenment want to defend the constitution and do the right thing. here from Americas Right from Jeff.
Tuesday, October 21, 2008
Federal Election Commission Files Motion to Dismiss for Lack of Proper Jurisdiction
Just filed. I'm on it. As I get details, I'll share them here.
Tuesday, October 21, 2008
Federal Election Commission Files Motion to Dismiss for Lack of Proper Jurisdiction
Just filed. I'm on it. As I get details, I'll share them here.
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written by Luke.Sanderlin, October 21, 2008
Guys,
Can you clarify the argument that Phil’s request for discovery was improper? FRCP 26(d)(1) states "A party may not seek discovery from any source before the parties have conferred as required by Rule 26(f), except in a proceeding exempted from initial disclosure under Rule 26(a)(1)(B), or when authorized by these rules, by stipulation, or by court order." Since a Conference of the Parties; Planning for Discovery re FRCP 26 (f) was not held, I fail to see why the defendants would have to answer the discovery request.
I firmly feel the proper way to proceed would to be to file a petition for writ of mandamus with the Honorable Third Circuit Court or the Honorable SCOTUS if the feeling that the Third Circuit will not expeditious enough.
This is not intended to undermine Philip Berg. This is to assist with guiding this case in the proper direction. If anyone has a problem with my line of questioning, please look at my previous posts here. This is in the case’s best interest. As nice as it would be to have Senator Obama and the DNC forced into these decisions, I don't think it's viable.
Any comment on this from Berg? any speculation on your behalf?
Thanks,
Luke
Can you clarify the argument that Phil’s request for discovery was improper? FRCP 26(d)(1) states "A party may not seek discovery from any source before the parties have conferred as required by Rule 26(f), except in a proceeding exempted from initial disclosure under Rule 26(a)(1)(B), or when authorized by these rules, by stipulation, or by court order." Since a Conference of the Parties; Planning for Discovery re FRCP 26 (f) was not held, I fail to see why the defendants would have to answer the discovery request.
I firmly feel the proper way to proceed would to be to file a petition for writ of mandamus with the Honorable Third Circuit Court or the Honorable SCOTUS if the feeling that the Third Circuit will not expeditious enough.
This is not intended to undermine Philip Berg. This is to assist with guiding this case in the proper direction. If anyone has a problem with my line of questioning, please look at my previous posts here. This is in the case’s best interest. As nice as it would be to have Senator Obama and the DNC forced into these decisions, I don't think it's viable.
Any comment on this from Berg? any speculation on your behalf?
Thanks,
Luke
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written by Benjamin, October 21, 2008
For those who want to dig into the legal details of the case, including Mr. Berg's two most recent motions, I would recommend this post by Judah Benjamin at texasdarlin's blog. Texasdarlin has been investigating the Obama BC issue for a LONG time.
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/bombshell/#more-4155
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/bombshell/#more-4155
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written by P J Maddox, October 21, 2008
This is not about DISCOVERY!
Obama & DNC ANSWERED.
But; evidentally they DID NOT Answer the Request for ADMISSIONS. Which is separate from the "Request for Production of Documents."
If you were a practicing Attorney you would know that quite frequently extended time is given to produce Documents, if there is an excuse for requiring it.
However; if they are not responded to (under Oath) within 30 Days of Service: Requests for ADMISSIONS are DEEMED ADMITTED.
When that happens; that usually disposes of most of the "contested questions".
signed:
A REAL (in the trenches) Attorney
Obama & DNC ANSWERED.
But; evidentally they DID NOT Answer the Request for ADMISSIONS. Which is separate from the "Request for Production of Documents."
If you were a practicing Attorney you would know that quite frequently extended time is given to produce Documents, if there is an excuse for requiring it.
However; if they are not responded to (under Oath) within 30 Days of Service: Requests for ADMISSIONS are DEEMED ADMITTED.
When that happens; that usually disposes of most of the "contested questions".
signed:
A REAL (in the trenches) Attorney
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written by Bill Green, October 21, 2008
Anyone know what's up with this?
http://www.americasright.com/2008/10/federal-election-commission-files.html
http://www.americasright.com/2008/10/federal-election-commission-files.html
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written by normal lawyer tactics, October 21, 2008
I don't think the lawsuit was dismissed, obama's camp filed a motion to dismiss. This is normal, they do it for murderers too. Doesn't mean the judge is going to listen to the request to dismiss. I see Mr. Berg as a brilliant man, and am positive he went through all the best and worst case scenarios prior to bringing this action. He knows the law and what is allowed and what isn't. He has so much faith in the facts that he's putting his life and reputation on the line. This isn't about partisianship, it's about our Constitution. Kudos to Berg for protecting it, and us, the U.S. Citizens who will be casting a vote for the next leader of our country. Let's watch the news and see what's printed or broadcast about it. The question I have is, If Obama bails and is not a contender anymore, Who then, does the DNC put up? Hillary? or Biden?
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written by Benjamin, October 21, 2008
"You're an idiot Ben
written by Benzanidiotmoron, October 21, 2008"
Whoa bud - look at my post. I was simply quoting the poster named Kate upthread and answering that if the factcheck document is legit - then why doesn't Obama release the valult copy. I'm aware of the Annenberg connection - and I'm on YOUR side in this issue. LOL
written by Benzanidiotmoron, October 21, 2008"
Whoa bud - look at my post. I was simply quoting the poster named Kate upthread and answering that if the factcheck document is legit - then why doesn't Obama release the valult copy. I'm aware of the Annenberg connection - and I'm on YOUR side in this issue. LOL
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written by Lance, October 21, 2008
JD,
I think you have things backwards. The group that manipulates elections through the use of fear is the Democratic party. Not the Republicans.
I remember many ads about all Senior people would be eating cat food if Republicans were elected.. etc..
The Democrats are doing things like this again in this election. They do it in EVERY election.
The Democrats use Fear, Race warfare, Class envy, and just about everything else they can do divide the people. Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton are two people that are REALLY good at this.
get your facts straight and open your eyes.
I think you have things backwards. The group that manipulates elections through the use of fear is the Democratic party. Not the Republicans.
I remember many ads about all Senior people would be eating cat food if Republicans were elected.. etc..
The Democrats are doing things like this again in this election. They do it in EVERY election.
The Democrats use Fear, Race warfare, Class envy, and just about everything else they can do divide the people. Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton are two people that are REALLY good at this.
get your facts straight and open your eyes.
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written by benzNOTsobadafterall, October 21, 2008
See Ben? BO's people want to make Obamabots out of everyone and all this New World Order junk. Obama keeps saying to check www.factcheck.org, but clearly it's supported by Annenberg, and along with this topic, Annenberg, Ayers, and Obama are quite the 3some. THANK GOD for our Constitution, which is allowing this very blog to occur. If not for the freedom of speech and self expression, can you imagine where we would be as a society? I hope Berg has a golden nail for the last one to be put in...100&#xsu;pport for Berg and any lawyers assisting him in this cause!!
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written by steph3, October 21, 2008
Federal Election Commission just filed suit to dismiss. It seems as though no one can just produce the document.
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written by titor, October 21, 2008
Obama's radical Muslim ties EXPOSED AGAIN
Its just as you suspected. Check out this 4 part (35 min) interview and you'll understand why Mr Berg is DEAD ON about Obama!
http://www.youtube.com/view_pl...398F31DEC1
Spread the word!
Its just as you suspected. Check out this 4 part (35 min) interview and you'll understand why Mr Berg is DEAD ON about Obama!
http://www.youtube.com/view_pl...398F31DEC1
Spread the word!
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written by L.M. Hamilton, October 21, 2008
Michelle Obama tapes’ imminent release approaching: API in a serious negotiation with FOX NEWS on the best way forward
Posted by africanpress on October 21, 2008
API has an ongoing discussion with FOX NEWS on the best way forward in the process of releasing Michelle Obama tapes to the American people.
API hopes the negotiation will be completed as soon as possible so that the tapes can be made available to FOX NEWS in the next few days and specifically before the voting day - the 4th of November.
API will make use of Legal Representation in the US when finalising the hand-over of the tapes and on any legal matters that may arise after the contents of the tapes become public.
We want to thank all our readers - those who have managed to be patient and also those who have exhibited total impatience. We assure them that an agreement will be reached soon between API and FOX NEWS one way or another, so that API fulfills the promise it gave to the readers.
The important thing we want the readers to know is how the tapes will be handled once it finally leaves API’s custody. API has confidence in FOX NEWS and will allow them to decide whether the tapes will be aired in full, edited or unedited. Once the tapes are released to FOX NEWS as per agreement that will be arrived at between the parties, API believes that FOX NEWS is competent enough to decide on how to proceed in handling the tapes because - better than us in API - they know what is best for the American listeners.
Some may not understand why this has taken long to accomplish. Sensitive issues requires careful steps so that nobody gets hurt in the process. People have questioned why the delay. API wanted to take time and make a good choice on the way forward and we can now happily say we are on the right track and hopefully you do not have to wait for long before your wishes are fulfilled.
Now that the release of the tapes is imminent, as soon as an agreement is reached, API hopes that those who finally gets access to its contents will use them wisely, in a way that brings the American people closer to one another despite their political allienation and to be above racial behaviour and work together for a better United American Nation. API does not wish to see the information from the tapes being misused by those who may wish to satisfy their own interests and achieve a particular aim.
The release of the tapes will take place without costs to any one. The negotiation between API and FOX NEWS bears no sign of money involved and that has been API’s wish all along.
Published by Chief Editor Korir /African Press International - API.
Posted by africanpress on October 21, 2008
API has an ongoing discussion with FOX NEWS on the best way forward in the process of releasing Michelle Obama tapes to the American people.
API hopes the negotiation will be completed as soon as possible so that the tapes can be made available to FOX NEWS in the next few days and specifically before the voting day - the 4th of November.
API will make use of Legal Representation in the US when finalising the hand-over of the tapes and on any legal matters that may arise after the contents of the tapes become public.
We want to thank all our readers - those who have managed to be patient and also those who have exhibited total impatience. We assure them that an agreement will be reached soon between API and FOX NEWS one way or another, so that API fulfills the promise it gave to the readers.
The important thing we want the readers to know is how the tapes will be handled once it finally leaves API’s custody. API has confidence in FOX NEWS and will allow them to decide whether the tapes will be aired in full, edited or unedited. Once the tapes are released to FOX NEWS as per agreement that will be arrived at between the parties, API believes that FOX NEWS is competent enough to decide on how to proceed in handling the tapes because - better than us in API - they know what is best for the American listeners.
Some may not understand why this has taken long to accomplish. Sensitive issues requires careful steps so that nobody gets hurt in the process. People have questioned why the delay. API wanted to take time and make a good choice on the way forward and we can now happily say we are on the right track and hopefully you do not have to wait for long before your wishes are fulfilled.
Now that the release of the tapes is imminent, as soon as an agreement is reached, API hopes that those who finally gets access to its contents will use them wisely, in a way that brings the American people closer to one another despite their political allienation and to be above racial behaviour and work together for a better United American Nation. API does not wish to see the information from the tapes being misused by those who may wish to satisfy their own interests and achieve a particular aim.
The release of the tapes will take place without costs to any one. The negotiation between API and FOX NEWS bears no sign of money involved and that has been API’s wish all along.
Published by Chief Editor Korir /African Press International - API.
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written by kittiewan, October 21, 2008
wgflagwaver,
I don't think Obama's maternal grandmother was the one who said she witnessed his birth in Kenya. I think that was his grandmother (or stepgrandmother) Sarah, who lives in Kenya.
I don't think Obama's maternal grandmother was the one who said she witnessed his birth in Kenya. I think that was his grandmother (or stepgrandmother) Sarah, who lives in Kenya.
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written by b_C, October 21, 2008
Obama is going to stage an announcement at his dying grandmother's bedside - with the full cohort of the MSM press in attendance - where she will pronounce in a feeble, barely discernable voice that, "Yes, my Barry was born in Hawai'i."
Meanwhile, the original of his birth certificate will still not surface!
Meanwhile, the original of his birth certificate will still not surface!
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written by agreeable1, October 21, 2008
I agree with Lance, it happens every election. Dems have a history of this. There was a documentary done awhile ago regarding the DNC and how they want this new world order and have a plan, and this plan has been in place for several decades. This guy, BO, came out of NOWHERE...think about it, he was a nobody and after being in office for something like 146 days, decides he can be the next president, are you kidding me? This is getting crazier by the minute
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written by Lance, October 21, 2008
JD,
There is NOTHING in that article (at least the summary on the page you posted) that labels either party as Republican and Democrat.
This is a PERFECT example of someone taking an article and interpreting the facts in the article for a political agenda.
I have to believe you are a Democrat based on your post and this proves that the group that uses fear more than others is the Democrats.
BTW: I am neither Democrat or Republican. I am Independent.
Please try to refute that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are FEAR and HATE mongers. They Promote and make a living out of pushing fear and hate and dividing people.
There is NOTHING in that article (at least the summary on the page you posted) that labels either party as Republican and Democrat.
This is a PERFECT example of someone taking an article and interpreting the facts in the article for a political agenda.
I have to believe you are a Democrat based on your post and this proves that the group that uses fear more than others is the Democrats.
BTW: I am neither Democrat or Republican. I am Independent.
Please try to refute that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are FEAR and HATE mongers. They Promote and make a living out of pushing fear and hate and dividing people.
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written by Emery, October 21, 2008
Yea by the time API finally releases this tape the coronation will be over.
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written by Frank Baumann, October 21, 2008
Simple question.
Who or what department in the Federal Government is responsible for ensuring that candidates for President & VP are qualified?
For that matter, who insures that candidates for the house and senate are also qualified?
I have read the twentieth Amendment several times and it is CRYSTAL CLEAR that if a candidate is not qualified by January 20th he or she will not be Inaugurated until such time as he/she is deemed qualified. If then, Barry Obama can't be qualified the house will select another. But who determines if a candidate is qualified?
Why doesn’t someone challenge his qualification to be a US senator in Illinois?
Who or what department in the Federal Government is responsible for ensuring that candidates for President & VP are qualified?
For that matter, who insures that candidates for the house and senate are also qualified?
I have read the twentieth Amendment several times and it is CRYSTAL CLEAR that if a candidate is not qualified by January 20th he or she will not be Inaugurated until such time as he/she is deemed qualified. If then, Barry Obama can't be qualified the house will select another. But who determines if a candidate is qualified?
Why doesn’t someone challenge his qualification to be a US senator in Illinois?
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written by OBADone, October 21, 2008
There is a video of the Grandma in Kenya talking about him being born in Kenya. Obama is going to Hush Grandma in Hawaii, because she just might utter these words, " Hi, I'm toots, and Barry was born in Kenya then Stanley brought him back to the U.S. when she was well enough to fly in an airplane" OBama needs to hush her up. He's so concerned? Yeah right, he hasn't seen her since August, and when he did it was for 1 hour. I also read today, that she's not in a hospital, she was released from the hospital a week ago. Here is the link for Grandma in Kenya saying Barack was born there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related If you watch the video, grandma says "I was glad to have him back to his roots" there is another video out there where she talks of him being born at some coastal hospital, i'll try to find it.
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written by Benjamin, October 21, 2008
"WTG BEN!
written by benzNOTsobadafterall, October 21, 2008"
Heh. Thank goodness. Don't think I could tolerate being mistaken for a mindless Obot. I'm just concerned that Obama is going to be able to delay discovery in the Berg case until after the election. I scanned the Federal Rules and I'm worried that Mr. Berg's current motions may be moot due to the request for protective order that Obama/DNC filed. It appears that a protective order stays any discovery until it is ruled upon by the Judge. I hope I'm wrong. I think I'll read the detailed analysis provided by Judah Benjamin on TD's blog.
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/bombshell/#more-4155
written by benzNOTsobadafterall, October 21, 2008"
Heh. Thank goodness. Don't think I could tolerate being mistaken for a mindless Obot.
I'm just concerned that Obama is going to be able to delay discovery in the Berg case until after the election. I scanned the Federal Rules and I'm worried that Mr. Berg's current motions may be moot due to the request for protective order that Obama/DNC filed. It appears that a protective order stays any discovery until it is ruled upon by the Judge. I hope I'm wrong. I think I'll read the detailed analysis provided by Judah Benjamin on TD's blog. http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/bombshell/#more-4155
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written by Justthefactsma'am, October 21, 2008
you can go on the Social Security website, try this yourself and you will see what i mean. You type in the name of a person you know is deceased, and tells you where and when they passed away. here is the link: http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ My father recently passed away, all you need is the first and last name, and all of his information came right up, and was all correct. I tested it to see if the site worked, sure enough it did. I then typed in Obama's mom. Now i wonder, Is he lying about this too??? Please somone go to that site and try it. She isn't on it. Stanley Obama, Ann obama, etc. I tried evey conceivable way to find her place of death, because then, on a death certificate, it may have Obama's real name. Guess what, NO RECORD OF HER. none that I could find. See if any of you have luck. Thanks.
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written by it's ooh ooh over for ohoohbama, October 21, 2008
As you know: there is a human plague around the planet. It's a cult.
The cult is: sunni islam. They slaughter people EVERYWHERE.
Nigeria: is predominately CHRISTIAN. The last thing they want is Odinga's taliban crew coming to them and their resources.
Nigeria will come through. If they haven't then it was a hoax.
Nigeria has alot on the line in this election. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason anyone from these countries would want Obama: Nigeria, Ethopia, half of Kenya, Half of Sudan, Most of Zimbawee and South Africa
Even with the tribal violence, the last thing these people want is to deal w/ more taliban.
NIGERIA WILL COME THROUGH IF IT IS REAL.
The cult is: sunni islam. They slaughter people EVERYWHERE.
Nigeria: is predominately CHRISTIAN. The last thing they want is Odinga's taliban crew coming to them and their resources.
Nigeria will come through. If they haven't then it was a hoax.
Nigeria has alot on the line in this election. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason anyone from these countries would want Obama: Nigeria, Ethopia, half of Kenya, Half of Sudan, Most of Zimbawee and South Africa
Even with the tribal violence, the last thing these people want is to deal w/ more taliban.
NIGERIA WILL COME THROUGH IF IT IS REAL.
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written by Entwife, October 21, 2008
Okay, nobama. And now we have your traceable info. Thanks for the head's up. 
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written by MommaERadioRebels, October 21, 2008
Hi MommaE,
Now is the time for us to do another challenge to help Phil Berg with the lawsuit. We are going to go with the "Two-Fer" challenge that seems to really work. For every dollar that is donated, we will donate two dollars, up to $ 500.00.
You must send a receipt to MommaE as before and the receipts for this one must be dated today, October 21st and forward. If you do not have MommaE's personal e-mail address, you can go to http://countryfirst.bravehost.com and click on Contact Us at the top of the page. You can copy and paste or attach a copy of your PayPal Receipt, Credit Card Receipt, Money Order or Check to it and she will receive it. MommaE must have the receipts in order to keep a running total, so she can notify us when this "Two-Fer Challenge" has been met and we will match it by 2 times.
Hearing about the new filing by Mr. Berg last night, October 20th, should bring some good news, as he has never received an answer or filing, nor did the Court respond to that part of the Law Suit in any way.
With just 2 weeks until the election, and new information coming forward almost daily, these donations will be available for Phil Berg to work with and allow him to respond rapidly.
We appreciate, and thank everyone that has donated his or her money to move this effort forward.
So, let's "Get This Show on The Road."
With Great Respect,
ChileMan and ChileWoman
Now is the time for us to do another challenge to help Phil Berg with the lawsuit. We are going to go with the "Two-Fer" challenge that seems to really work. For every dollar that is donated, we will donate two dollars, up to $ 500.00.
You must send a receipt to MommaE as before and the receipts for this one must be dated today, October 21st and forward. If you do not have MommaE's personal e-mail address, you can go to http://countryfirst.bravehost.com and click on Contact Us at the top of the page. You can copy and paste or attach a copy of your PayPal Receipt, Credit Card Receipt, Money Order or Check to it and she will receive it. MommaE must have the receipts in order to keep a running total, so she can notify us when this "Two-Fer Challenge" has been met and we will match it by 2 times.
Hearing about the new filing by Mr. Berg last night, October 20th, should bring some good news, as he has never received an answer or filing, nor did the Court respond to that part of the Law Suit in any way.
With just 2 weeks until the election, and new information coming forward almost daily, these donations will be available for Phil Berg to work with and allow him to respond rapidly.
We appreciate, and thank everyone that has donated his or her money to move this effort forward.
So, let's "Get This Show on The Road."
With Great Respect,
ChileMan and ChileWoman
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written by LaSalle, October 21, 2008
Webmaster, could you please put Berg's youtube video back up? Thank you!
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written by Holly, October 21, 2008
I am starting to wonder if this whole API story was made up so that they could claim that they turned the tapes over to Fox news and that Fox refuses to air them. Obama recently said that the would be up by 2 or 3 points in the polls if not for Fox news. Fox has the highest ratings of all the news stations and they are the only ones not in the tank for Obama. I know a lot of people don't consider them fair and balanced like they claim but a whole lot more do. Imagine if we were all told that Fox was trusted with the tapes and chose to keep them from the American people. It would cause Fox to lose a lot of faithful listeners and it would cause those same people to have to get their news from CNN, MSNBC, NBC, etc... all of which are in the tank for Obama anyways. We'll see if it's true in the next week or so.
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written by justthefactsma'am, October 21, 2008
I went to the site again, no luck looking for sottoro either. So I typed in Stanley Dunham, BO's dad is on there, and there is a Stanley Dunham, died at age 53, but this would make Obama a liar, because, isn't he insisting his mother was from Kansas? the issuing state for that stanley Dunham is Washington. The plot thickens. I hope Mr. Bergs Legal people can look into this Death Cert. idea. If Obama is first born, he'd have to be listed somehow on records you would think.
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written by edward special, October 21, 2008
and now we get ready for troops in the street?
http://www.aniboom.com/video/291968/george-w.-farewell-speech/
http://www.aniboom.com/video/291968/george-w.-farewell-speech/
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written by Benjamin, October 21, 2008
"Berg is right
written by Justthefactsma'am, October 21, 2008"
Did you search for her using the last name Soetoro? She married the Soetoro dude after BHO Sr. left.
written by Justthefactsma'am, October 21, 2008"
Did you search for her using the last name Soetoro? She married the Soetoro dude after BHO Sr. left.
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written by JBW, October 21, 2008
Although the Commission determines whether certain presidential candidates are eligible for public funding, it has no power to determine who qualifies for ballot access or who is eligible to serve as president.
No wonder why he did not take Public Funding
No wonder why he did not take Public Funding
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written by CJ, October 21, 2008
Actually, the Dunham family was from KS, then went to WA state... and B.O.'s mom left WA to go to
college in Hawaii... nothing nefarious here.
college in Hawaii... nothing nefarious here.
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written by NWC, October 21, 2008
Justthefactsma'am,
Ok I normally just lurk here, but I had to speak up here - perhaps if you tried searching BOs Mothers CORRECT name youd see she is right there, In fact the only 2 Stanley A Dunhams are her and BOs Maternal Grandfather (see below). Please, try to get your facts straight before posting things like that - its really irritating when people dont do proper research and post these "facts" and all it does is confuse people! I come here to read updates on this case, and other BO issues, but am getting tired of posts like this that just cause more skepticism of the real issues/facts.
With that said - to everyone else, that you for all the info and updates, keep up the good work! Looking forward to a McCain/Palin victory!
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STANLEY A DUNHAM 23 Mar 191808 Feb 1992 (V)96826 (Honolulu, Honolulu, HI)96826 (Honolulu, Honolulu, HI)514-03-4824KansasSS-5 Letter
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STANLEY A DUNHAM 29 Nov 194207 Nov 199596826 (Honolulu, Honolulu, HI)(none specified)535-40-8522WashingtonSS-5 Letter
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written by Justthefactsma'am, October 21, 2008
you can go on the Social Security website, try this yourself and you will see what i mean. You type in the name of a person you know is deceased, and tells you where and when they passed away. here is the link: http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ My father recently passed away, all you need is the first and last name, and all of his information came right up, and was all correct. I tested it to see if the site worked, sure enough it did. I then typed in Obama's mom. Now i wonder, Is he lying about this too??? Please somone go to that site and try it. She isn't on it. Stanley Obama, Ann obama, etc. I tried evey conceivable way to find her place of death, because then, on a death certificate, it may have Obama's real name. Guess what, NO RECORD OF HER. none that I could find. See if any of you have luck. Thanks."
Ok I normally just lurk here, but I had to speak up here - perhaps if you tried searching BOs Mothers CORRECT name youd see she is right there, In fact the only 2 Stanley A Dunhams are her and BOs Maternal Grandfather (see below). Please, try to get your facts straight before posting things like that - its really irritating when people dont do proper research and post these "facts" and all it does is confuse people! I come here to read updates on this case, and other BO issues, but am getting tired of posts like this that just cause more skepticism of the real issues/facts.
With that said - to everyone else, that you for all the info and updates, keep up the good work! Looking forward to a McCain/Palin victory!
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STANLEY A DUNHAM 23 Mar 191808 Feb 1992 (V)96826 (Honolulu, Honolulu, HI)96826 (Honolulu, Honolulu, HI)514-03-4824KansasSS-5 Letter
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"Berg is right
written by Justthefactsma'am, October 21, 2008
you can go on the Social Security website, try this yourself and you will see what i mean. You type in the name of a person you know is deceased, and tells you where and when they passed away. here is the link: http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ My father recently passed away, all you need is the first and last name, and all of his information came right up, and was all correct. I tested it to see if the site worked, sure enough it did. I then typed in Obama's mom. Now i wonder, Is he lying about this too??? Please somone go to that site and try it. She isn't on it. Stanley Obama, Ann obama, etc. I tried evey conceivable way to find her place of death, because then, on a death certificate, it may have Obama's real name. Guess what, NO RECORD OF HER. none that I could find. See if any of you have luck. Thanks."
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written by Paige, October 21, 2008
I don't know where Obama's mother passed away, but she was from Kansas. They moved to Hawaii.
I would really like to know how the FEC filing impacts Berg's case. I'd also like to know if he has heard the Michelle Obama tapes. A confirmation from Fox News would also be nice.
I would really like to know how the FEC filing impacts Berg's case. I'd also like to know if he has heard the Michelle Obama tapes. A confirmation from Fox News would also be nice.
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written by Breshloch, October 21, 2008
I just went to the site at your link and conducted a few searches. When I did
Last Name: Dunham
First Name: Stanley
Middle I: A
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What looks like her record shows up:
STANLEY A DUNHAM 29 Nov 1942 07 Nov 1995 96826 (Honolulu, Honolulu, HI) (none specified) 535-40-8522 Washington
Last Name: Dunham
First Name: Stanley
Middle I: A
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What looks like her record shows up:
STANLEY A DUNHAM 29 Nov 1942 07 Nov 1995 96826 (Honolulu, Honolulu, HI) (none specified) 535-40-8522 Washington
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written by justthefactsma'am, October 21, 2008
If you read my follow up to the post: I stated that I tried again, and that her and Obama's grandfather are listed, I was inquiring why it's listed as Washington as an issuing state, if they claimed to be from Kansas. You wrote to me: Ok I normally just lurk here, but I had to speak up here - perhaps if you tried searching BOs Mothers CORRECT name youd see she is right there, In fact the only 2 Stanley A Dunhams are her and BOs Maternal Grandfather (see below). Please, try to get your facts straight before posting things like that - its really irritating when people dont do proper research and post these "facts" and all it does is confuse people! I come here to read updates on this case, and other BO issues, but am getting tired of posts like this that just cause more skepticism of the real issues/facts.
So NWC, I am so SORRY I IRRITATED YOU, and I wasn't posting a fact, I was asking a question. I put it out there, because with everyone wondering about his real name, in some states, the death certificate has to list the eldest child. This would show Obama's name. Perhaps you need to get YOUR facts corrected prior to slamming someone who is in total support of Mr. Berg and this ordeal. May I suggest going to a spa or something to settle your nerves? Or perhaps just keep lurking and looking so that you have the correct facts.
So NWC, I am so SORRY I IRRITATED YOU, and I wasn't posting a fact, I was asking a question. I put it out there, because with everyone wondering about his real name, in some states, the death certificate has to list the eldest child. This would show Obama's name. Perhaps you need to get YOUR facts corrected prior to slamming someone who is in total support of Mr. Berg and this ordeal. May I suggest going to a spa or something to settle your nerves? Or perhaps just keep lurking and looking so that you have the correct facts.
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written by justthefactsma'am, October 21, 2008
to the other's that posted the correct name for Obama's mother, thank you. You read that I asked if someone could please, and I said PLEASE look it up. I was not aware that she went back to her maiden name. I'm not a trouble maker, I just know how my father's death certificate had to be filled out for the state we live in, and with everything else being hidden, etc. the thought I had was to look at his mother's death certificate to see if Obama's name is on it as the survivor. I don't know if anyone thought to check on it for correct information that is not hidden like everything else is. Thank you again to all of those who got what i was asking.
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written by Janet, October 21, 2008
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written by Frank Baumann, October 21, 2008
Simple question.
Who or what department in the Federal Government is responsible for ensuring that candidates for President & VP are qualified?
For that matter, who insures that candidates for the house and senate are also qualified?"
Two simple words Frank, "NO ONE". It is taken on faith, from the "candidates themselves" that they are qualified to hold office. One small thing missing from OUR Constitution.
written by Frank Baumann, October 21, 2008
Simple question.
Who or what department in the Federal Government is responsible for ensuring that candidates for President & VP are qualified?
For that matter, who insures that candidates for the house and senate are also qualified?"
Two simple words Frank, "NO ONE". It is taken on faith, from the "candidates themselves" that they are qualified to hold office. One small thing missing from OUR Constitution.
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written by Lance, October 21, 2008
Janet, You are correct. The FEC does not do it. Actually it is the candidate that is supposed to do it. The part groups (DNC, RNC, etc) are supposed to verify it. Some states do have documents the candidate has to sign saying he is eligible, but others don't. Some are done by petition.
I don't think the Founding Fathers ever thought someone would run who could not hold the office!
I don't think the Founding Fathers ever thought someone would run who could not hold the office!
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written by Linda Starr in TX, October 21, 2008
"written by wqflagwaver,
Obama has two living grandmother's. His maternal "white" grandmother in Hawaii and his paternal "black" grandmother in Kenya. It is his "black" grandmother who claims she was present when he was born in Kenya. There is a distance and urisdictional barrier, and as we all know how they abused Jerome Corsi, I don't think they'd hesitate to arrest Phil OR Andy if either tried to depose his Kenyan Grandmother. It'd be much harder to prevent his "white" grandmother in Hawaii from being deposed. Perhaps he is going to put security people in charge of his grandmother to prevent her being asked questions and telling the truth. He is very likely cleaning out anything from the apartment that is incriminating - photos, documents and other records.
If I were Andy Martin, I'd track down the sister Maya. Her story seems to change with events as Obama needs them to change. If she were interviewed, she might trip up and tell more facts. It gets harder and harder to remember lies because liars have to tell more and more lies to cover up the first lies and then all the lies thereafter.
"written by wqflagwaver, October 21, 2008
Oh, btw:
OBAMA'S GRANDMOTHER IS THE ONLY WITNESS - REPEATEDLY SAID SHE WAS IN THE DELIVERY ROOM -- IN KENYA!!"
Obama has two living grandmother's. His maternal "white" grandmother in Hawaii and his paternal "black" grandmother in Kenya. It is his "black" grandmother who claims she was present when he was born in Kenya. There is a distance and urisdictional barrier, and as we all know how they abused Jerome Corsi, I don't think they'd hesitate to arrest Phil OR Andy if either tried to depose his Kenyan Grandmother. It'd be much harder to prevent his "white" grandmother in Hawaii from being deposed. Perhaps he is going to put security people in charge of his grandmother to prevent her being asked questions and telling the truth. He is very likely cleaning out anything from the apartment that is incriminating - photos, documents and other records.
If I were Andy Martin, I'd track down the sister Maya. Her story seems to change with events as Obama needs them to change. If she were interviewed, she might trip up and tell more facts. It gets harder and harder to remember lies because liars have to tell more and more lies to cover up the first lies and then all the lies thereafter.
"written by wqflagwaver, October 21, 2008
Oh, btw:
OBAMA'S GRANDMOTHER IS THE ONLY WITNESS - REPEATEDLY SAID SHE WAS IN THE DELIVERY ROOM -- IN KENYA!!"
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written by Schmitty, October 21, 2008
And now this....Federal Election Commission Files Motion to Dismiss for Lack of Proper Jurisdiction. http://www.americasright.com/2...files.html What can they do next to avoid discovery? And for the naysayers, is it just that you could care less if Obama is even a citizen of the USA or what? Are you really willing to possibly elect a citizen of another country to be POTUS?
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written by nobamanohow, October 21, 2008
Is this where the coup d'etat starts?
The media ignores, the campaign plunges ahead?
WE THE PEOPLE ARE IN CHARGE!!
The media ignores, the campaign plunges ahead?
WE THE PEOPLE ARE IN CHARGE!!
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written by nobamanohow, October 21, 2008
Is this where the coup d'etat starts?
The media ignores, the campaign plunges ahead?
WE THE PEOPLE ARE IN CHARGE!!
The media ignores, the campaign plunges ahead?
WE THE PEOPLE ARE IN CHARGE!!
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written by MG-PUMA, October 21, 2008
JD AIObama:
Just so that you know, using the race card is so over with...
by the way, no one here is afraid of any "big scary world" -
the inter-racial marriage rate for whites and blacks is about 25% (you know like Heidi and Seal and Halle and Gabriel, but whatever!),
the intermarriage rate for whites and hispanics is about 40% (I am married to a 100% hispanic), and between whites and asians (you know, silly, like caucAsian!) is about 30 percent.
So, get over yourself.
MG-PUMA
Just so that you know, using the race card is so over with...
by the way, no one here is afraid of any "big scary world" -
the inter-racial marriage rate for whites and blacks is about 25% (you know like Heidi and Seal and Halle and Gabriel, but whatever!),
the intermarriage rate for whites and hispanics is about 40% (I am married to a 100% hispanic), and between whites and asians (you know, silly, like caucAsian!) is about 30 percent.
So, get over yourself.
MG-PUMA
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written by buddy, October 21, 2008
"From the FEC answer, here’s the REAL reason Obama didn’t accept public funding:"
“Although the Commission determines whether certain presidential candidates are eligible for public funding . . .”
Looks like the FEC doesn't give a darn if they are qualified to be POTUS, but it looks like they may be very stringent in terms of the money given to fund a campaign. Anyone have any idea how candidates qualify for public funding and what documents, etc. must be presented?
“Although the Commission determines whether certain presidential candidates are eligible for public funding . . .”
Looks like the FEC doesn't give a darn if they are qualified to be POTUS, but it looks like they may be very stringent in terms of the money given to fund a campaign. Anyone have any idea how candidates qualify for public funding and what documents, etc. must be presented?
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written by Citizen, October 21, 2008
written by nobamanohow, October 21, 2008
Is this where the coup d'etat starts?
The media ignores, the campaign plunges ahead?
WE THE PEOPLE ARE IN CHARGE!!
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Coup d'etat , yes , our government is at war, has been for years. That's why you, I and others can't make any sense out of what's going on, a time of confussion.
listen to the chants " We are the ones we've been waiting for , this is our time , we will change the world."
Listen to the interviews from ex-KGB officer........We were warned many years ago..............
Ideological subversion
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/saturday-night.html
Is this where the coup d'etat starts?
The media ignores, the campaign plunges ahead?
WE THE PEOPLE ARE IN CHARGE!!
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Coup d'etat , yes , our government is at war, has been for years. That's why you, I and others can't make any sense out of what's going on, a time of confussion.
listen to the chants " We are the ones we've been waiting for , this is our time , we will change the world."
Listen to the interviews from ex-KGB officer........We were warned many years ago..............
Ideological subversion
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/saturday-night.html
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written by wayoutthere, October 21, 2008
The FEC told me they MIGHT look into his campaign contributions after the election. Jeez. Is the fix in?
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written by Inquisitive, October 21, 2008
Well it's been said that sometimes silence speaks louder than words. For me, Senator Obama and the DNC's silence speaks volumes.
At this point I could careless what the MSM says or doesn't say. Frankly, I no longer feel the need to hear the court's decision in order to make my own.
I originally came to this website as an undecided voter. About the only thing I am now sure of is that I cannot, with a clear conscience, vote for Senator Obama. I have also come to the realization that withholding my vote will not prevent Senator Obama from becoming the POTUS. So rather than waiting for answers, legal decisions or media coverage that may or may not come, I will go with my gut and vote McCain/Palin on Nov 4th. And from now till then I will concentrate on informing/encouraging my acquaintances, colleagues and anyone who is willing to listen, to do the same.
Yes, I have emailed my state senators, representatives and governor expressing my concern on this issue and making clear what I believe are my rights and their duty as elected officials --- but I'm not sitting around waiting for their "answer" either. The silence is deafening. The answer is clear.
At this point I could careless what the MSM says or doesn't say. Frankly, I no longer feel the need to hear the court's decision in order to make my own.
I originally came to this website as an undecided voter. About the only thing I am now sure of is that I cannot, with a clear conscience, vote for Senator Obama. I have also come to the realization that withholding my vote will not prevent Senator Obama from becoming the POTUS. So rather than waiting for answers, legal decisions or media coverage that may or may not come, I will go with my gut and vote McCain/Palin on Nov 4th. And from now till then I will concentrate on informing/encouraging my acquaintances, colleagues and anyone who is willing to listen, to do the same.
Yes, I have emailed my state senators, representatives and governor expressing my concern on this issue and making clear what I believe are my rights and their duty as elected officials --- but I'm not sitting around waiting for their "answer" either. The silence is deafening. The answer is clear.
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written by Breshloch, October 21, 2008
http://www.fec.gov/pages/broch...igibility.
Eligibility for Public Funds
To be eligible for public funds, a Presidential candidate or a party convention committee must first submit a letter of agreement and a written certification in which the candidate or committee agrees to:
Spend public funds only for campaign-related expenses or, in the case of a party convention, for convention-related expenses;
Limit spending to amounts specified by the campaign finance law;
Keep records and, if requested, supply evidence of qualified expenses;
Cooperate with an audit of campaign or convention expenses;
Repay public funds, if necessary; and
Pay any civil penalties imposed by the FEC.
Primary candidates must additionally certify that they have met the "threshold requirement" for eligibility by raising in excess of $5,000 in each of 20 states (see "Primary Matching Funds," above). A candidate may satisfy eligibility requirements and submit private contributions for matching payments any time after January 1 of the year before a Presidential general election. Actual payments are not made, however, until after January 1 of the Presidential election year.
Eligibility for Public Funds
To be eligible for public funds, a Presidential candidate or a party convention committee must first submit a letter of agreement and a written certification in which the candidate or committee agrees to:
Spend public funds only for campaign-related expenses or, in the case of a party convention, for convention-related expenses;
Limit spending to amounts specified by the campaign finance law;
Keep records and, if requested, supply evidence of qualified expenses;
Cooperate with an audit of campaign or convention expenses;
Repay public funds, if necessary; and
Pay any civil penalties imposed by the FEC.
Primary candidates must additionally certify that they have met the "threshold requirement" for eligibility by raising in excess of $5,000 in each of 20 states (see "Primary Matching Funds," above). A candidate may satisfy eligibility requirements and submit private contributions for matching payments any time after January 1 of the year before a Presidential general election. Actual payments are not made, however, until after January 1 of the Presidential election year.
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written by marinamama, October 21, 2008
As I understand it, the API tapes are a farce! See Jeff's comments on America's Right. Seems like it is a dead issue.
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written by Tom from Chicago, October 21, 2008
Something else that comes to mind is BHO'S lie about his "mother and father 'getting together' after the Alabama march in the 60's and having little barry as a result. Which proved to be a lie since he was 4 years old when his parents allegedly 'hooked up'. It seems as though his whole conception, birth, etc. has a lot of holes in it!
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written by Godisstillincontrol, October 21, 2008
I am definitely a McCain supporter, but because of people who are my friends and things I hear them say, there will be a war at our door, a war of racism, another civil war if BO is founded guilty of fraud, of being an alien, etc, etc. if the courts make him release his information.
What he has allegedly done, and I state allegedly because until the documents have been released, that is how it should be viewed, is immoral, unethical, scheming, an act of treason, etc and no one should get by with that, especially someone running for the presidency.
We as the people of the United States have all rights to see the credentials, both private and not of a presidential candidate that pertain to our national security. If you go into the military, you have to supply that sort of information, so I believe the person running for Presidency should provide it as well.
It should be our constitutional right to know, especially if there is question about it, but when and if he is founded to have provided false information whether implied or otherwise others will claim it is based on his being African American. I am not talking about only the African Americans, I am speaking about the Whites as well.
I don’t care about his color, anyone’s color and neither should anyone else, but I do care about one’s ethics, character, professionalism and most importantly their relations with those who want to harm our people and our country no matter what race, especially our President. Biden is already claiming we will be attacked in less than 6 months of BO’s entering the White House should he win the election, not cool!!! We will have an upheaval here if he does not win and a war over seas if he does!!! Be prepared for the worst no matter what!! Take care and pray to God, literally, for intervention and ask Him to let it be His will the documents, the correct documents, not false, be released before Nov. 4!!! God Bless you all and God have mercy on all of us!!
What he has allegedly done, and I state allegedly because until the documents have been released, that is how it should be viewed, is immoral, unethical, scheming, an act of treason, etc and no one should get by with that, especially someone running for the presidency.
We as the people of the United States have all rights to see the credentials, both private and not of a presidential candidate that pertain to our national security. If you go into the military, you have to supply that sort of information, so I believe the person running for Presidency should provide it as well.
It should be our constitutional right to know, especially if there is question about it, but when and if he is founded to have provided false information whether implied or otherwise others will claim it is based on his being African American. I am not talking about only the African Americans, I am speaking about the Whites as well.
I don’t care about his color, anyone’s color and neither should anyone else, but I do care about one’s ethics, character, professionalism and most importantly their relations with those who want to harm our people and our country no matter what race, especially our President. Biden is already claiming we will be attacked in less than 6 months of BO’s entering the White House should he win the election, not cool!!! We will have an upheaval here if he does not win and a war over seas if he does!!! Be prepared for the worst no matter what!! Take care and pray to God, literally, for intervention and ask Him to let it be His will the documents, the correct documents, not false, be released before Nov. 4!!! God Bless you all and God have mercy on all of us!!
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written by Terry136, October 21, 2008
Is anyone else having problems downloading "Motion for Expedited Ruling on Plaintiff's Motion for Order re Req. for Admissi ?
When I try to download it, I get the ever faithful "File Not Found" error.
Mr. Webmaster. I think your services are needed front and center.
When I try to download it, I get the ever faithful "File Not Found" error.
Mr. Webmaster. I think your services are needed front and center.
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written by Chuck, October 21, 2008
This is silly. Hanging our hopes on the very outside chance that a COLB is going to be produced. The onus is not on them to produce it. Therefore, it wont be produced. They, meaning the left, have taken away the voice of 49% to 50% of America. Only problem is that, unlike the other 51% or 50% of America, this voiceless portion of America is teaming with people who can and will take maters into their own hands. We won't sit around and be victimized. In fact we refuse to be called victims. We understand that to let tyranny run unchecked is cowardice and Un-American . We don't have "community leaders" or "organizers" who profit from manufactured umbrage. We don't need Martin Luther King, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton. No, this half of America will take matters into their own hands.We're Americans, its on our blood. Passed down from our rebellious heritage. We don't need the semantics of Law to hold someone accountable when it comes to subverting America. That's a liberal thing. A coward thing.
We understand and admire our forefathers, who stood up to and defeated the world's super power just so they wouldn't be taxed unfairly. We remember our culture, whether it was Southern, who were willing to fight and die for their heritage and their way of life. Or Northern who fought to hold this great nation together and ultimately to validate all of our citizens through emancipation.
This subversion will not stand. Our half of the country does not wish to return to our European roots and economic systems. We resent monikers like Italian-American,Native-American, African-American. We understand that we are to be just American. Diversity in religion, culture, creed, race, and beliefs. Is American. Diversity in purpose is not. One Nation..Under God. With no further qualifiers. We have made this continent great. Not Canada.
Through cordial or less than cordial means, America will be restored to its rightful owners - Americans. Be prepared when called upon to sacrifice your time, your money and any and all things necessary to reclaim what is ours. They have no idea what is about to be unleashed on this country if the productive half of our society is forced to give all or even part of our spoils to those who do not deserve it. I have no Idea.
In closing, forget about this distraction. Vote for what is right. That is all we can do - for now.
We understand and admire our forefathers, who stood up to and defeated the world's super power just so they wouldn't be taxed unfairly. We remember our culture, whether it was Southern, who were willing to fight and die for their heritage and their way of life. Or Northern who fought to hold this great nation together and ultimately to validate all of our citizens through emancipation.
This subversion will not stand. Our half of the country does not wish to return to our European roots and economic systems. We resent monikers like Italian-American,Native-American, African-American. We understand that we are to be just American. Diversity in religion, culture, creed, race, and beliefs. Is American. Diversity in purpose is not. One Nation..Under God. With no further qualifiers. We have made this continent great. Not Canada.
Through cordial or less than cordial means, America will be restored to its rightful owners - Americans. Be prepared when called upon to sacrifice your time, your money and any and all things necessary to reclaim what is ours. They have no idea what is about to be unleashed on this country if the productive half of our society is forced to give all or even part of our spoils to those who do not deserve it. I have no Idea.
In closing, forget about this distraction. Vote for what is right. That is all we can do - for now.
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written by Holly, October 21, 2008
You are spot on! We cannot sit and wait for all of these things to come to light, even though they should, before the election. The only thing that we can do is make our voices heard by declaring our vote for McCain/Palin and encouraging others to do the same. We also need to plan for the possibility that voter fraud may be rampant and we should also try to vote in more Republicans or Conservative Independents so that if Obama is elected, he will not have a liberal supermajority in all areas of Congress who will undoubtedly pass anything that he asks of them in order to flex their power hungry muscle. We need to plan ahead in case Obama wins the election by bring back more checks and balances to our government. Let's make sure to make the House and the Senate as evenly distributed between Republicans and Democrats as we can, and factor in which way some of the Independents will lean (Dem or Rep). This is the only way to ensure that Obama does not have the power to do ANYTHING that he wants. If more Democrats get elected to the Senate or House, there will be no stopping the madness that is guaranteed to go on unchecked. We have a voice and should use it LOUDLY this election.
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written by Linda Starr in TX, October 21, 2008
Apparently there is some kind of technical glitch with PayPal. You may have to extend the challenge until tomorrow and hope it gets fixed today. I know Phil and Lisa were on the phone to them and am not sure if it's fixed even now. If anyone has a problem let Momma E or Phil know.
Thanks so much for your kind generousity. I believe you will be rewarded one day for your patriotism. I really believe that when we do unexpected acts of generousity or kindness, it comes back to us many times over. That is my experience anyway. And I also believe acts of any negative nature brings that negative karma back on us.
Thanks so much for your kind generousity. I believe you will be rewarded one day for your patriotism. I really believe that when we do unexpected acts of generousity or kindness, it comes back to us many times over. That is my experience anyway. And I also believe acts of any negative nature brings that negative karma back on us.
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written by Hot2Trot, October 21, 2008
Attention: Terry136
I'm not having any problems with that link. It works fine on my end. Wanted to let you know.
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written by truth seeker, October 21, 2008
They filed a MOTION TO DISMISS yesterday:
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/20/
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/20/
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written by Roger, October 21, 2008
FEC files motion to Dismiss for lack of proper jurisdiction.
It seems as if no one has standing in this case. Who has standing to file a complaint?
Does the Constitution mean anything anymore.
It seems as if no one has standing in this case. Who has standing to file a complaint?
Does the Constitution mean anything anymore.
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written by David Archbold, October 21, 2008
www.OperationExposeObama.com
Next call in show is Thursday at 8 pm Central - Call 605-475-8500 PIN 5092984
Talking Points
Original suit from Berg V Obama in Federal court; Steve Marquiz (kez) modified suit to target WA Sec. of State (chief elections official for WA) to demand WA SoS receive copy of BC; I modified Marquiz v Reed for CA and figured out which changes had to be made so this could be filed in each state; recruiting efforts for localizing to other states has been done through obamacrimes.com
The document is a demand through lawsuit against each state's chief elections official to get a copy of the Vault BC from Hawaii and any additional hospital documents attesting to Obama's birth.
Since our federal laws are national, the majority of the document is the same for all states. Each state does require some effort to localize to state statutes and chief elections official is properly named. The complaint template is designed specifically to allow for easy identification of what needs changed and so that it can be filed in most jurisdictions.
The work needed to research for each state can be done by an average person in a day and probably filed the next day. What you need to know is who is your state-wide elections official, how are candidates placed on the ballot, and what legal mechanism must the candidate do to provide the state-wide elections official with credentials (proof of US citizenship by natural birth).
States with prepared documents are CAlifornia, Texas, and Florida. Ohio is pending and very murky. I do not have any other states prepared - and Washington State document is not court ready. I am going to ask for volunteers to help prepare documents for other states so that we can get as many as quickly as possible. There is obviously work for all states and some states may deny based on local time rules as the election is so very close upon us; it may be possible to get this going in every state by the end of the week.
If you are capable of producing a document even just for your state, I would be glad to host a copy at my own website for further redistribution to as many as possible.
It may very well be possible to get enough challenges filed that we not only grind this election to a halt, but that we succeed in removing Obama from those same ballots.
To join an existing filing you will need to provide your name, address, phone, and signature. This can be emailed to me for distribution to the person who is handling that state filing. I am making best effort to keep this organized so that we can surge individual states with existing filings.
Arizona Voters: I will be preparing your state's document tonight, late. You have the biggest piece of the puzzle to force Obama's hand. Your state requires a candidate to produce an affidavit of candidacy stating they meet USC qualifications. We can use this to corner Obama to validate his affidavit.
Ohio: Someone please get this filing started. I have a form that can be filed now. Please someone try and keep me posted.
Texas voters: Contact Steve Dallas \n This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it '> This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it to join with his suit. He want 100 people to sign on before filing it. Steve was wonderful enough to produce the Texas and Florida documents we so desperately needed to get this done.
Florida status: we need donations of $350 for filing fee. What we need is for as many people as possible to join in this one case so that it has greater standing because of a large number of people associating themselves with the case. If you want to join in any state, join the existing case. Washington and Utah have cases
My email is \n This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it '> This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
http://www.davidnotary.biz/states/
Repost to as many different forums as possible.
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Original suit from Berg V Obama in Federal court; Steve Marquiz (kez) modified suit to target WA Sec. of State (chief elections official for WA) to demand WA SoS receive copy of BC; I modified Marquiz v Reed for CA and figured out which changes had to be made so this could be filed in each state; recruiting efforts for localizing to other states has been done through obamacrimes.com
The document is a demand through lawsuit against each state's chief elections official to get a copy of the Vault BC from Hawaii and any additional hospital documents attesting to Obama's birth.
Since our federal laws are national, the majority of the document is the same for all states. Each state does require some effort to localize to state statutes and chief elections official is properly named. The complaint template is designed specifically to allow for easy identification of what needs changed and so that it can be filed in most jurisdictions.
The work needed to research for each state can be done by an average person in a day and probably filed the next day. What you need to know is who is your state-wide elections official, how are candidates placed on the ballot, and what legal mechanism must the candidate do to provide the state-wide elections official with credentials (proof of US citizenship by natural birth).
States with prepared documents are CAlifornia, Texas, and Florida. Ohio is pending and very murky. I do not have any other states prepared - and Washington State document is not court ready. I am going to ask for volunteers to help prepare documents for other states so that we can get as many as quickly as possible. There is obviously work for all states and some states may deny based on local time rules as the election is so very close upon us; it may be possible to get this going in every state by the end of the week.
If you are capable of producing a document even just for your state, I would be glad to host a copy at my own website for further redistribution to as many as possible.
It may very well be possible to get enough challenges filed that we not only grind this election to a halt, but that we succeed in removing Obama from those same ballots.
To join an existing filing you will need to provide your name, address, phone, and signature. This can be emailed to me for distribution to the person who is handling that state filing. I am making best effort to keep this organized so that we can surge individual states with existing filings.
Arizona Voters: I will be preparing your state's document tonight, late. You have the biggest piece of the puzzle to force Obama's hand. Your state requires a candidate to produce an affidavit of candidacy stating they meet USC qualifications. We can use this to corner Obama to validate his affidavit.
Ohio: Someone please get this filing started. I have a form that can be filed now. Please someone try and keep me posted.
Texas voters: Contact Steve Dallas \n This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it '> This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it to join with his suit. He want 100 people to sign on before filing it. Steve was wonderful enough to produce the Texas and Florida documents we so desperately needed to get this done.
Florida status: we need donations of $350 for filing fee. What we need is for as many people as possible to join in this one case so that it has greater standing because of a large number of people associating themselves with the case. If you want to join in any state, join the existing case. Washington and Utah have cases
My email is \n This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it '> This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
http://www.davidnotary.biz/states/
Repost to as many different forums as possible.
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written by Luke.Sanderlin, October 21, 2008
Discovery Conference in compliance with FRCP 26(f)
written by Luke.Sanderlin, October 21, 2008
Guys,
Can you clarify the argument that Phil’s request for discovery was improper? FRCP 26(d)(1) states "A party may not seek discovery from any source before the parties have conferred as required by Rule 26(f), except in a proceeding exempted from initial disclosure under Rule 26(a)(1)(B), or when authorized by these rules, by stipulation, or by court order." Since a Conference of the Parties; Planning for Discovery re FRCP 26 (f) was not held, I fail to see why the defendants would have to answer the discovery request.
I firmly feel the proper way to proceed would to be to file a petition for writ of mandamus with the Honorable Third Circuit Court or the Honorable SCOTUS if the feeling that the Third Circuit will not expeditious enough.
This is not intended to undermine Philip Berg. This is to assist with guiding this case in the proper direction. If anyone has a problem with my line of questioning, please look at my previous posts here. This is in the case’s best interest. As nice as it would be to have Senator Obama and the DNC forced into these decisions, I don't think it's viable.
Any comment on this from Berg? any speculation on your behalf?
Thanks,
Luke
A 'Request for Admissions' is part of the discovery process, which cannot proceed until after the Conference of the Parties; Planning for Discovery as FRCP 26 (f) asserts. FRCP Rule 26 Subdivision (f) provides a special meeting between the parties to organize their discovery process; this is a required step. Formal Discovery cannot proceed until this conference has been concluded.
P J Maddox "A REAL Lawyer", can you confirm or counter this claim?
Again read my above post, I am not disputing this case. Read my previous comments. I'd just like to see this case on the right track and I don't think Mr. Berg is correct on this matter, though I'll admit I could be wrong, that's why I'd like someone to take issue with what I have to say. If I'm wrong I'll freely admit it.
Regards,
Luke
Below are some references:
A request for admissions (sometimes also called a request to admit) are a set of statements sent from one litigant to an adversary, for the purpose of having the adversary admit or deny the statements or allegations therein. Requests for admissions are part of the discovery process in a civil case.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...admissions
A discovery procedure, authorized by the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and the court rules of many states, in which one party asks an opposing party to admit that certain facts are true.
http://www.nolo.com/definition...D/alpha/R/
Definition of discovery:
Definition: A formal procedure established by the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and corresponding state procedural rules in which parties to a lawsuit exchange information and documents in an effort to "discover" facts relevant to the lawsuit and identify potential witnesses and evidence.
Discovery devices include depositions, interrogatories, requests for admissions, requests for production of documents and requests for inspection.
http://legalcareers.about.com/...covery.htm
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written by Muhamadtube, October 21, 2008
Colin Powell looking for job or Realy approve Barack Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kU1ruCls08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kU1ruCls08
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written by Friends of the Republic = REPUBLICANS, October 21, 2008
It would be nice to have him organize a Live Annoucement with Andy Martin and Phil Berg...
God Bless America
God Bless America
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written by John Guy, October 21, 2008
Is it possible to file suit with every Secretary of State in the country to obtain an injunctionto stop the election until this is decided? I would be willing to do so in Texas ifwith legal help if available. My prayers are with you and your family Mr. Berg. I truly belive God will be with you.....Thank you
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written by Friends of the Republic = REPUBLICANS, October 21, 2008
http://www.honoluluadvertiser....8810180353
SERVICE UNAVAILABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Somebody should still print the page if you do an internal search
Suit targets Obama document Sat Oct 18, 2008 An author and avowed opponent of Barack Obama has filed suit against the state seeking to require officials to provide a copy of the Democratic presidential nominee's Hawai'i birth certificate. Und... more...
SERVICE UNAVAILABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Somebody should still print the page if you do an internal search
Suit targets Obama document Sat Oct 18, 2008 An author and avowed opponent of Barack Obama has filed suit against the state seeking to require officials to provide a copy of the Democratic presidential nominee's Hawai'i birth certificate. Und... more...
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written by WhyWillItBe, October 21, 2008
Just some food for thought...I've speculated Pakistan in the mid '80's but cannot come up with any clear trail...just hints based on her travels and world events at the time.
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written by WhyWillItBe, October 21, 2008
I never said anything about contagion. It is quite possible to contract cancer from genetic predisposition, exposure to nuclear and other forms of radiation, from various environmental hazards, etc.
So the question still stands....where and how?
So the question still stands....where and how?
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written by Justthefactsma'am, October 21, 2008
To WHYWILLITBE: Here are some links to try to answer your questions:
http://fredfryinternational.bl...alth.html
http://ovariancancer.about.com/od/top10listsfaqs/f/indidence_faq.htm
Since Obama's mother had sex with different men of different cultures, I'm sure in the 60's and 70's she probably used the pill which can cause the types of cancer she had, ovarian and uterine.
I found something on the net today that stated there is a theory out there why Obama won't give up his true BC. His mom was 17, Pops was like 29 (and the story is he was here, but had a wife in Kenya) and got Mommy preggers and this story goes on that they didn't get married at all, and at 7 months preggy, she flew over to Kenya to get pappy to pay up for this baby that was on the way....THIS IS NOT A FACT...just something I saw on the net today.
http://fredfryinternational.bl...alth.html
http://ovariancancer.about.com/od/top10listsfaqs/f/indidence_faq.htm
Since Obama's mother had sex with different men of different cultures, I'm sure in the 60's and 70's she probably used the pill which can cause the types of cancer she had, ovarian and uterine.
I found something on the net today that stated there is a theory out there why Obama won't give up his true BC. His mom was 17, Pops was like 29 (and the story is he was here, but had a wife in Kenya) and got Mommy preggers and this story goes on that they didn't get married at all, and at 7 months preggy, she flew over to Kenya to get pappy to pay up for this baby that was on the way....THIS IS NOT A FACT...just something I saw on the net today.
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written by Mary O'Bryan, October 21, 2008
God I "hope" something or someone will really take down this egotistical and totally inexperienced rookie before it is too late. America must have someone with a truly proven track record, not just promises of hope and change. These are serious times and we need a seriously experienced leader. Nobama!!! McCain is now the only real choice for our country’s future security and prosperity.
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written by truth seeker, October 21, 2008
regarding the article: http://www.honoluluadvertiser....8810180353 and Janice Okubo, state Department of Health spokeswoman.
"However, Okubo said, "If someone from Obama's campaign gave us permission in person and presented some kind of verification that he or she was Obama's designee, we could release the vital record.""
Why haven't Obama & the DNC asked for the vital record?
"However, Okubo said, "If someone from Obama's campaign gave us permission in person and presented some kind of verification that he or she was Obama's designee, we could release the vital record.""
Why haven't Obama & the DNC asked for the vital record?
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written by Patriot, October 21, 2008
PRAY like the fate of our country and the future of our children depends on it...BECAUSE IT DOES.
Heavenly Father, Almighty God, You who knows the end before the beginning, You who raises up kings and takes them down again, we come before you to repent of the sins committed daily in our beloved nation.
The sin of bloodguiltiness (abortion), the sin of immorality, the defamation of Your Holy Name by those who hate and despise all that is holy and good...on behalf of our nation we repent for these crimes. We ask that You show mercy and favor upon the United States of America. Keep the snake who slithers outside the door of the Oval office, seeking entry, far, far away...smash this serpent with the breath of Your nostrils...work one of the 11th hour miracles that you are so known for in my own personal life and in the history of Your chosen people, Israel.
Have mercy on our nation! It is time for You to work, O Lord....work to smash this serpent underfoot of righteous Americans. Let true patriots arise and be counted!
In Your Holy Name, I pray all the words of Psalm 109 against Barack Hussein Obama, O Lord....may Your will be done.
Heavenly Father, Almighty God, You who knows the end before the beginning, You who raises up kings and takes them down again, we come before you to repent of the sins committed daily in our beloved nation.
The sin of bloodguiltiness (abortion), the sin of immorality, the defamation of Your Holy Name by those who hate and despise all that is holy and good...on behalf of our nation we repent for these crimes. We ask that You show mercy and favor upon the United States of America. Keep the snake who slithers outside the door of the Oval office, seeking entry, far, far away...smash this serpent with the breath of Your nostrils...work one of the 11th hour miracles that you are so known for in my own personal life and in the history of Your chosen people, Israel.
Have mercy on our nation! It is time for You to work, O Lord....work to smash this serpent underfoot of righteous Americans. Let true patriots arise and be counted!
In Your Holy Name, I pray all the words of Psalm 109 against Barack Hussein Obama, O Lord....may Your will be done.
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written by Barnieca, October 21, 2008
What happens now???
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written by Odanneyboy, October 21, 2008
As is obvious importance I must emphasize is who pics the justices. Please read
http://www.newsflavor.com/World/USA-&-Canada/Supreme-Court-Appointment-and-the-Importance-of-Presidential-Elections.138871
http://www.newsflavor.com/World/USA-&-Canada/Supreme-Court-Appointment-and-the-Importance-of-Presidential-Elections.138871
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written by Glen Thomas, October 21, 2008
Did any one hear if Berg or Fox news post any information on the API tapes?
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written by Jimmy31, October 21, 2008
Lets hope this works! My father is an attorney from Chicago, Illinois. He told me today that him, along with other top lawyers in Chicago were working on a petition as well. Obama's "visit to Hawaii" is just a cover up. LETS GO McCAIN!!!
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written by Marky4, October 21, 2008
This is man is inexperienced, arrogant, and dangerous if he gets in office. Its about time people wake up and realize who Obama REALLY is. LETS GO BERG! Keep up the great work! Everyone spread this news and website!
God Bless America!
God Bless America!
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written by Dean, October 21, 2008
As has been covered countless times throughout this website and others, that was not the law at the time BHO was born. By law, the code in effect at the time of the event is the prevailing code, unless subsequent code provides grandfathering--essentially, backdating of the new law to cover previous dates and times. As far as the immigration law goes, that didn't happen, at least not to the degree that it would alter anything to do with BHO's citizenship (or lack thereof).
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written by Jeff McDonald, October 21, 2008
Is there a reason that I cannot find Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083 on the US District Court Eastern District of Pennsylvania? I found 58 cases but not this one. I am certainly a NOBAMA man and I want this NOT to be a hoax....Am I searching the wrong site?
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written by Justthefactsma'am, October 21, 2008
This is easy to research yourself, I went to http://hawaii.gov/health/vital...index.html
To see what terminology the State of Hawaii uses. I doubt they use one way for Marriage Licenses and another for Birth Certificates. Anyway, when you d/l the application for the marriage license, there is an area with the *by the race field, So scroll to the next page, here is how it reads: Race. Use such terms as Japanese, Caucasian, Black, Hawaiian, etc. Using the term Hawaiian may be advantageous, if appropriate. O.K., on Obama's BC it states Pappa was "African", I doubt it. I don't want to date myself here, but think about this for a moment. Back in the day, when filing out forms for employment, loans, credit, etc. the race field would say: Asian, White, Negro, or Other. They changed it to "Black" I believe some time in the 70's or 80's. I doubt any form ever said "African" for the Race field, otherwise they'd have to put in German, Irish, Sweedish, Canadian, Cuban, Tai, Hmong, etc. and there wouldn't be room on the form. I emailed my Senator about this and got a generated email back stating that they cannot address the issue at that level and to email my local alderman....What the hell is an alderman going to do? Call for new curbs to be installed?? Very wierd
To see what terminology the State of Hawaii uses. I doubt they use one way for Marriage Licenses and another for Birth Certificates. Anyway, when you d/l the application for the marriage license, there is an area with the *by the race field, So scroll to the next page, here is how it reads: Race. Use such terms as Japanese, Caucasian, Black, Hawaiian, etc. Using the term Hawaiian may be advantageous, if appropriate. O.K., on Obama's BC it states Pappa was "African", I doubt it. I don't want to date myself here, but think about this for a moment. Back in the day, when filing out forms for employment, loans, credit, etc. the race field would say: Asian, White, Negro, or Other. They changed it to "Black" I believe some time in the 70's or 80's. I doubt any form ever said "African" for the Race field, otherwise they'd have to put in German, Irish, Sweedish, Canadian, Cuban, Tai, Hmong, etc. and there wouldn't be room on the form. I emailed my Senator about this and got a generated email back stating that they cannot address the issue at that level and to email my local alderman....What the hell is an alderman going to do? Call for new curbs to be installed?? Very wierd
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written by Paige, October 21, 2008
No ones business --
This is a constitutional matter... you know, that document that has nothing to do with religion. You know, that document that grants free speech to all.
And sorry, but to me, anyone who is "pro-abortion" is not "good people".
This is a constitutional matter... you know, that document that has nothing to do with religion. You know, that document that grants free speech to all.
And sorry, but to me, anyone who is "pro-abortion" is not "good people".
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written by Chosin1, October 21, 2008
What's being pro abortion, pro gay, and pro stem cell reasearch have to do with BHO?
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written by joette the plumber, October 21, 2008
Suss is talking about the Berg case...you can listen online at
KSFO.com
KSFO.com
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written by Wild Bill, October 21, 2008
On Wednesday, October 22, 2008, we will file a lawsuit in Richmond Circuit Court in Richmond, Virginia. Virginia is the birthplace of American democracy and we are proud to do our part to combat the biggest threat to the union Richmond, Virginia has ever seen.
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written by Terry136, October 21, 2008
Is there a reason that I cannot find Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083 on the US District Court Eastern District of Pennsylvania? I found 58 cases but not this one. I am certainly a NOBAMA man and I want this NOT to be a hoax....Am I searching the wrong site?
The PACER site is a bit unforgiving in its search routine. Try searching by name. Search for Berg, Philip and select "party" in the drop down box below the name. It will bring up the current suit. Be advised, you'll be charged for each page, including the search -- even if nothing is found.
Or, go to http://dockets.justia.com/dock...id-281573/ and you can get all the info there. And it's free.
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written by LongviewCyclist, October 21, 2008
I know you mean that by failing to do XYZ, they are legally considered to be admitting guilt. But the title of this entry is kind of misleading. They didn't literally admit anything. Though, gosh, I wish they would already.
Hopefully, the [false] messiah will be sent home. Or just back to Hawaii. I don't care, just as long as it's not the Whitehouse.
I am not optimistic, however. He has enough money to buy every single ballot box from Mexico to Canada. There is no reason to think he wouldn't try to buy judges as well, given how dishonest he has been thus far.
Hopefully, the [false] messiah will be sent home. Or just back to Hawaii. I don't care, just as long as it's not the Whitehouse.
I am not optimistic, however. He has enough money to buy every single ballot box from Mexico to Canada. There is no reason to think he wouldn't try to buy judges as well, given how dishonest he has been thus far.
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written by Holly, October 21, 2008
Those issues are not just religious anyways. I understand that not everyone is a Christian and I respect that some choose not to be. However, life, marriage, and science don't all have to do with one's religion. Why are you bringing this up anyways?
Do you believe that some people who want to own slaves should be able to do so? In other words, if you don't believe in slavery than don't own one? (disclaimer: I believe that slavery is incredibly horrible so don't think that I'm saying it's good. I am not racist.) Just a question.
Do you believe that some people who want to own slaves should be able to do so? In other words, if you don't believe in slavery than don't own one? (disclaimer: I believe that slavery is incredibly horrible so don't think that I'm saying it's good. I am not racist.) Just a question.
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written by Dean, October 21, 2008
If there's anything a Bedford County boy can do to help you guys, let me know.
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written by ?, October 21, 2008
Federal Election Commission has a motion to dismiss also?!
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/24/
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/24/
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written by starsky, October 21, 2008
Lock and load............America won't secure her borders, so illegals continue to run our economy into the ground, gangs like MS-13 and Los Zetes are plaqing our streets selling drugs to our children, we are fighting a war and paying the bill when IRAQ should be footing the bills $$$, gasoline prices haved helped crush our economy, we should be getting free oil from IRAQ for solving their problems, we have people going hungry and without in this country but our government wants to give our money away to everyone else, OBAMA wants to give 7% of our gross national product away to other countries, we have thugs like the leaders of IRAN, North KOREA, RUSSIA,CHINA,CUBA and CHAVEZ in VENEZUELA wanting to kill our economy and everything AMERICANS stand for, our politicians have passed so many laws hurting AMERICAN business that CHINA is now pretty much the BIG DOG in charge of this turd hunt and the Democrats /Liberals want to take our guns.....well glory be ....throw me some chains to put on.....
I hope OBAMA gets elected....my magazines are loaded. Our Forefathers fought and died for what they believed in to make this country great....and they knew there would come another day that those who believe in liberty would have to make a decision.....I have made my decision.....and I am a big fan of the second amendment.
Lock and load.....
I hope OBAMA gets elected....my magazines are loaded. Our Forefathers fought and died for what they believed in to make this country great....and they knew there would come another day that those who believe in liberty would have to make a decision.....I have made my decision.....and I am a big fan of the second amendment.
Lock and load.....
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written by justthefactsma'am, October 21, 2008
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/...rn,00.html
In Re to the creep saying we are throwing God down his throat:
1. We are one nation under God
2. All our money says "in God We Trust"
3. A lot of blood was shead over the years by our decendants so that people like you can come to a website like this and say what you want to say
4. If you don't like this site or what we are talking about, try this website: WWW.BARACKOBAMA.COM
I am quite certain you will find your comrads there all looking over the fake birth certificate, or you can try fight the smears.com, that would be a nice site for someone like you.
In Re to the creep saying we are throwing God down his throat:
1. We are one nation under God
2. All our money says "in God We Trust"
3. A lot of blood was shead over the years by our decendants so that people like you can come to a website like this and say what you want to say
4. If you don't like this site or what we are talking about, try this website: WWW.BARACKOBAMA.COM
I am quite certain you will find your comrads there all looking over the fake birth certificate, or you can try fight the smears.com, that would be a nice site for someone like you.
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written by joey American, October 21, 2008
is it coincidental or really something more sinister that BHO is going back to Hawaii this week. Maybe to look for that evasive "vault certificate", or to pull strings and produce one. Who knows, but maybe just for his sick granny? If she is really sick then we wish her well.
But barrack needs to produce the real birth certificate or come clean. Don't cause a problem that does not need to be caused we Americans are going through enough right now
But barrack needs to produce the real birth certificate or come clean. Don't cause a problem that does not need to be caused we Americans are going through enough right now
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written by Dean, October 21, 2008
I'll show you my birth certificate if you'll show me yours.
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written by WhyWillItBe, October 21, 2008
Chosin,
I didn't said anything about cancer being contagious. It is quite possible to contract cancer from genetic predisposition, exposure to nuclear and other forms of radiation, from various environmental hazards, etc.
So the question still stands....where and how did she contract cancer?
I didn't said anything about cancer being contagious. It is quite possible to contract cancer from genetic predisposition, exposure to nuclear and other forms of radiation, from various environmental hazards, etc.
So the question still stands....where and how did she contract cancer?
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written by MountainSage, October 21, 2008
Hey, Wild Bill...I'm glad to hear a suit is being filed in Virginia. Thanks.
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written by Terry136, October 21, 2008
I know you mean that by failing to do XYZ, they are legally considered to be admitting guilt. But the title of this entry is kind of misleading. They didn't literally admit anything. Though, gosh, I wish they would already.
As is stated on the main page for this site:
Berg stated that he filed Requests for Admissions on September 15, 2008 with a response by way of answer or objection had to be served within thirty [30] days. No response to the Requests for Admissions was served by way of response or objection. Thus, all of the Admissions directed to Obama and the DNC are deemed “ADMITTED.” Therefore, Obama must immediately withdraw his candidacy for President.
By not responding to the Requests for Admissions, the following happened:
According to Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, a party upon whom requests for admissions have been served must respond, within 30 days, or else the matters in the requests will be automatically deemed conclusively admitted for purposes of the pending action.
According to Rule 36 of the FRCP, Obama admitted to everything that was in the Requests for Admissions, as did the DNC with their Request for Admissions. All because they didn't respond within the thirty (30) time frame allowed by law.
Any problem with Rule 36 should be directed to your elected representatives in Washington so they can work on legislation to change the current FRCP rules.
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written by Dan, October 21, 2008
written by Mikes0727, October 21, 2008
Savage, Ingraham, O'Reilly, Greta, ALL of them know about these
lawsuits. They won't mention them on air, so it's up to US
to flood their blogs, and any political blog with links to this site.
We CAN do this in a few days. Obamacrimes.com has gone viral
and is over 51 million hits!
It is may be a marketing strategy for the hosts. The reason they don't mention it is because they will lose revenue if McCain is elected. Obama generates more interest to us on the Right then McCain. Obama gives the talk show hosts something to complain about, and sadly, we feed off their misery (anger) making it our own. Nevertheless, it is a good idea to overwhelm their blogs with this issue; it will not only propagate, it will put to task the integrity of the talk show hosts and where they really stand...with their money...or with their country.
Dan
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written by Just the Facts Ma'am, October 21, 2008
RE: Dunham's cancer
written by Justthefactsma'am, October 21, 2008
To WHYWILLITBE: Here are some links to try to answer your questions:
http://fredfryinternational.bl...alth.html
http://ovariancancer.about.com/od/top10listsfaqs/f/indidence_faq.htm
Since Obama's mother had sex with different men of different cultures, I'm sure in the 60's and 70's she probably used the pill which can cause the types of cancer she had, ovarian and uterine.
I found something on the net today that stated there is a theory out there why Obama won't give up his true BC. His mom was 17, Pops was like 29 (and the story is he was here, but had a wife in Kenya) and got Mommy preggers and this story goes on that they didn't get married at all, and at 7 months preggy, she flew over to Kenya to get pappy to pay up for this baby that was on the way....THIS IS NOT A FACT...just something I saw on the net today.
written by Justthefactsma'am, October 21, 2008
To WHYWILLITBE: Here are some links to try to answer your questions:
http://fredfryinternational.bl...alth.html
http://ovariancancer.about.com/od/top10listsfaqs/f/indidence_faq.htm
Since Obama's mother had sex with different men of different cultures, I'm sure in the 60's and 70's she probably used the pill which can cause the types of cancer she had, ovarian and uterine.
I found something on the net today that stated there is a theory out there why Obama won't give up his true BC. His mom was 17, Pops was like 29 (and the story is he was here, but had a wife in Kenya) and got Mommy preggers and this story goes on that they didn't get married at all, and at 7 months preggy, she flew over to Kenya to get pappy to pay up for this baby that was on the way....THIS IS NOT A FACT...just something I saw on the net today.
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written by marvin, October 21, 2008
this man should not only be disqualified to be the president,he should also be arrested for fraud and corruption of our youth and be sentenced to a federal prison.
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written by Dean, October 21, 2008
Scroll down to "Claim 10."
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_smears_fact_check/2008/10/20/142379.html
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_smears_fact_check/2008/10/20/142379.html
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written by Lance, October 21, 2008
Now that the FEC has submitted their response, I would image the Judge will rule on the outstanding motions soon.
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written by good listener, October 21, 2008
Don't be surprised if Obama returns from Granny's with a whole new story of his life...she just finally had to come clean about his real background and upbringing. What pain, what anguish...what a way to repudiate all the past lies and garner some sympathy in the meantime.
...Just sayin...
...Just sayin...
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written by Paige, October 21, 2008
I've been trying to get to this website for several minutes and I kept getting this message:
"The maximum number of simultaneous connections to this site has been exceeded. Please try again later."
This site must really be jumping tonight!
"The maximum number of simultaneous connections to this site has been exceeded. Please try again later."
This site must really be jumping tonight!
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written by Sondra, October 21, 2008
If Obama is eligible to be a POTUS then the case is done. However if he is not eligible, then he knows that, because he is a constitutional lawer. That means that he is commiting a crime that can constitute a threat to our national security. Activities like that can be reported to FBI. Here is a link:
http://www.dhs.gov/xinfoshare/reportincidents/
The site provides a phone number, too.
If FBI decide to open an investigation, they can obtain all the necessary information very fast and resolve the case. Let them figure out who Obama really is.
http://www.dhs.gov/xinfoshare/reportincidents/
The site provides a phone number, too.
If FBI decide to open an investigation, they can obtain all the necessary information very fast and resolve the case. Let them figure out who Obama really is.
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written by Kandis, October 21, 2008
I wrote to my FOX station on the 17th about the lawsuit in PA, I got and answer back today, finally. I wrote to them:
Your FOX affiliate in Toledo, Ohio (the only TV station in the U.S.) finally broadcasted, covered and wrote a story about a lawsuit that is going on in the state of Pennsylvannia since August 21(Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083). Til thiis day Sen Barack Obama has not turned over documents required in the lawsuit, or to be President. McCain showed his. This is a story, IF YOUR PRODUCERS WILL LET YOU TALK ABOUT IT (MSM, will not talk).
They responded with:
We actually ran this story when it first became an issue some time ago. I'm sorry you didn't catch it. However, it has been reviewed by a non-partisan, non-profit group, factcheck.org, which plays a major role for both candidates problem issues. They went in person to verify that
it was legitimate, and came back with pictures. Therefore, we can't report it anymore.
They might have broadcasted a story, but there is no written story like there is one still on Toledo's Fox Webpage. My FOX webpage has NOTHING about this at all.
Your FOX affiliate in Toledo, Ohio (the only TV station in the U.S.) finally broadcasted, covered and wrote a story about a lawsuit that is going on in the state of Pennsylvannia since August 21(Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083). Til thiis day Sen Barack Obama has not turned over documents required in the lawsuit, or to be President. McCain showed his. This is a story, IF YOUR PRODUCERS WILL LET YOU TALK ABOUT IT (MSM, will not talk).
They responded with:
We actually ran this story when it first became an issue some time ago. I'm sorry you didn't catch it. However, it has been reviewed by a non-partisan, non-profit group, factcheck.org, which plays a major role for both candidates problem issues. They went in person to verify that
it was legitimate, and came back with pictures. Therefore, we can't report it anymore.
They might have broadcasted a story, but there is no written story like there is one still on Toledo's Fox Webpage. My FOX webpage has NOTHING about this at all.
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written by Steve, October 21, 2008
Trust me, Obooma is not eligible..He is a very very EVIL EVIL man...He will produce every false document and lie 100% of the time with smiles and deception to get elected.. He has hung around lots of evil people and done cocaine freely for a portion of his life.. .He has deceived millions and will continue to do so... On the other side you have a true patriot who has undergone extreme torture for many years(what does this remind everyone of, Christ right?). He tries to be fair to both sides, makes mistakes is not perfect... We have good against evil people!
Bottom line, I just broke down.. I had a vision.. I felt in my heart Obama is Anti-Christ..Get read people, it wont be easy to beat this forked tongued snake!! I now have no choice but to vote for McCain!
Bottom line, I just broke down.. I had a vision.. I felt in my heart Obama is Anti-Christ..Get read people, it wont be easy to beat this forked tongued snake!! I now have no choice but to vote for McCain!
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written by Brad, October 21, 2008
God is what sets our government apart from every other in history.
Some governments assume they are representatives of God, and what they say goes.
Others say there is no God. Either way, the government assumes supreme authority over its citizens.
In the USA, our founding documents acknowledge a Creator who holds authority over the government itself. That's what the whole "inalieanable rights" thing comes from. Here we say that God has granted rights to us, and we in turn permit some of those rights to our government. Read the first 10 amendments - they don't say the government grants us those rights, they acknowledge that God has granted them to us, and thus they cannot be taken away by any civil authority.
So get so upset at people trying to shove God down your throat. God is the only thing that stands between us and tyranny. If you don't want to believe in Him that's fine, but it's a big mistake to refuse to at least acknowledge Him as a "legal fiction" if nothing else.
Some governments assume they are representatives of God, and what they say goes.
Others say there is no God. Either way, the government assumes supreme authority over its citizens.
In the USA, our founding documents acknowledge a Creator who holds authority over the government itself. That's what the whole "inalieanable rights" thing comes from. Here we say that God has granted rights to us, and we in turn permit some of those rights to our government. Read the first 10 amendments - they don't say the government grants us those rights, they acknowledge that God has granted them to us, and thus they cannot be taken away by any civil authority.
So get so upset at people trying to shove God down your throat. God is the only thing that stands between us and tyranny. If you don't want to believe in Him that's fine, but it's a big mistake to refuse to at least acknowledge Him as a "legal fiction" if nothing else.
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written by Twan, October 21, 2008
This suit is not going to get off the ground. We are wasting our time here. There is only one thing that everyone can do to prevent Obama from being elected as POTUS, and that is VOTING.
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written by Dave M, October 21, 2008
Kandis,
Reply with something like this (from someone's previous post on another thread somewhere...)
Right now Obama has a “Certification of live birth” posted on his "Fight the Smears" sight and also posted on the Factcheck.org site.
However if you go the the Hawaii “Official” web site, Hawaii.gov. You will find that Hawaii offers several Birth Certificate *LIKE* papers. There is the “Birth Certificate”, There is the “Certificate of Live Birth” and “Certification of Live Birth”.
**Understand that there is a Certificate and a Certification of live birth and there is a difference between them.
On Obamas Fight the smears and the Factcheck.org site… Obama has a “Certification of life birth” (that is with the ION at the end)
Now to make a long story short…. On the Hawaii’s site, when applying for an application for DHHL (Department of Hawaii of Home lands)it states the following:
In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL. When requesting a certified copy of your birth certificate from the Vital Records Section of DOH, let the clerk know you are requesting it “For DHHL Purposes,” and that you need a copy of the original Certificate of Live Birth and not the computer-generated Certification. If mailing in your request form, please fill in “For DHHL Purposes” in the “Reason for Requesting a Certified Copy” section. (See example on page 6.) http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/Loaa Ka Aina Hoopulapula.pdf
Hawaii’s site also inculdes an application process to where Hawaiians (people with at least 50% islander blood) can request Homestead Land. Its there and you can Google it. In the requirements, they are very specific - applicants must provide a Certificate of Live Birth.. That satisfies one of their requirements. BUT if you provide the State of Hawaii “Certification of Live Birth” instead - they say that it would require further Verification and expense to the applicant.. Even the very State that issued that subject “Certification” says it is not enough for their validation requirements!
I suggest that everyone check the Hawaii site for themselves. Then you will understand that the “Certification of Live Birth” does *NOT* hold the same functionality as a real Birth Certificate or a Certificate of live Birth.
The Certification of Live Birth that Obama has posted on his site does not hold water and does not classify as a real Birth Certificate.
Reply with something like this (from someone's previous post on another thread somewhere...)
Right now Obama has a “Certification of live birth” posted on his "Fight the Smears" sight and also posted on the Factcheck.org site.
However if you go the the Hawaii “Official” web site, Hawaii.gov. You will find that Hawaii offers several Birth Certificate *LIKE* papers. There is the “Birth Certificate”, There is the “Certificate of Live Birth” and “Certification of Live Birth”.
**Understand that there is a Certificate and a Certification of live birth and there is a difference between them.
On Obamas Fight the smears and the Factcheck.org site… Obama has a “Certification of life birth” (that is with the ION at the end)
Now to make a long story short…. On the Hawaii’s site, when applying for an application for DHHL (Department of Hawaii of Home lands)it states the following:
In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL. When requesting a certified copy of your birth certificate from the Vital Records Section of DOH, let the clerk know you are requesting it “For DHHL Purposes,” and that you need a copy of the original Certificate of Live Birth and not the computer-generated Certification. If mailing in your request form, please fill in “For DHHL Purposes” in the “Reason for Requesting a Certified Copy” section. (See example on page 6.) http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/Loaa Ka Aina Hoopulapula.pdf
Hawaii’s site also inculdes an application process to where Hawaiians (people with at least 50% islander blood) can request Homestead Land. Its there and you can Google it. In the requirements, they are very specific - applicants must provide a Certificate of Live Birth.. That satisfies one of their requirements. BUT if you provide the State of Hawaii “Certification of Live Birth” instead - they say that it would require further Verification and expense to the applicant.. Even the very State that issued that subject “Certification” says it is not enough for their validation requirements!
I suggest that everyone check the Hawaii site for themselves. Then you will understand that the “Certification of Live Birth” does *NOT* hold the same functionality as a real Birth Certificate or a Certificate of live Birth.
The Certification of Live Birth that Obama has posted on his site does not hold water and does not classify as a real Birth Certificate.
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written by Mich, October 21, 2008
I can't believe that the news isn't picking this up. Wait, the sad thing is that I can believe it.
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written by justthefactsma'am, October 21, 2008
re the person who wrote to check on fight the smears and factcheck.org.
go to www.factcheck.org, now, do you see where it says ANNENBERG? O.k, now go Google Annenberg, Ayers, Obama...oh my, imagine that, they are a trio....direct connections. So my friend, anything on fact check.org is discounted as far as I'm concerned because they would outright support Obama, Now, as for fight the smears...O.K. Hmm, imagine that, it's Obama's alter ego site. He and the DNC put that up there. So that is discounted as well. Now go here, http://dockets.justia.com Someone earlier posted this website, now type in the name Barack Obama, Oh MY!!! Imagine that, here in plain site is Mr. Berg's lawsuit, and I intend to follow that link to see what the judge orders. I support Mr. Berg, have written my senator, contacted my local radio station, and sent out emails to the powers that be. the word is out there, but with Obama buying all the airtime during prime time on the 29th, the MSM will not report on this so they don't lose a valuable paying customer.
go to www.factcheck.org, now, do you see where it says ANNENBERG? O.k, now go Google Annenberg, Ayers, Obama...oh my, imagine that, they are a trio....direct connections. So my friend, anything on fact check.org is discounted as far as I'm concerned because they would outright support Obama, Now, as for fight the smears...O.K. Hmm, imagine that, it's Obama's alter ego site. He and the DNC put that up there. So that is discounted as well. Now go here, http://dockets.justia.com Someone earlier posted this website, now type in the name Barack Obama, Oh MY!!! Imagine that, here in plain site is Mr. Berg's lawsuit, and I intend to follow that link to see what the judge orders. I support Mr. Berg, have written my senator, contacted my local radio station, and sent out emails to the powers that be. the word is out there, but with Obama buying all the airtime during prime time on the 29th, the MSM will not report on this so they don't lose a valuable paying customer.
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written by daniel, October 21, 2008
It seems to me their are so many people involved in covering up obama's bc, including people who knew about it. I have been closely following the berg lawsuit since it came across my desk on 10-07-08, anxiously waiting for someone to break the story. Progress has been purposely slowed. The "I invented the Internet" video was at 9,000 hits and all the exciting information received on this site has sustained me. I feel everyone's pain about this issue and it helps me to see all the joint effort going on by all parties in resolving this issue to according to our Constitution. The obamanuts have viciously infiltrated this site and I just hope folks out there will just ignore their nastiness. People should be outraged about this, they should tell everyone and send out emails and if they want to call cheaters, cheaters to their face they should be allowed to do that in a free country as to point out corruption. I have no choice but to vote the McCain/Palin ticket but yet I can't help wonder why McCain or Palin has not made the story public. I feel very strong about this and ANYONE, even McCain who knew about the story and did NOT report it to the general population should be held accountable, that goes for GW, Hillary and many many more. The elections must be called off, GW, Cheney, pelosi and further down the chain of command until there is someone who is not corrupt, put him or her in the presidency and imprison all those involved in the most severe coupe d'tat in history. Or, McCain ticket can get the presidency, Palin forces him to resign she begins burning up congress and all involved. I am very angry about this, so thanks for allowing me to vent here.
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written by Kandis, October 21, 2008
Dave M,
Thanks for your post and advice. I forgot about the Cerificate and Certification differences, and the raised seal. Thank you.
Thanks for your post and advice. I forgot about the Cerificate and Certification differences, and the raised seal. Thank you.
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written by JohnP, October 21, 2008
To Stop "The One" Everyone Has To Show Up And Vote. This Case Is Going Nowhere.
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written by concerned citizen, October 21, 2008
Biden said something will happen within the first six months of taking office to test Obama, the (god forbid) new President. I believe the ineligibility/birth certificate issue is that crisis. What makes me particularly certain of this, is that Biden added "it may not seem like we're right at first"
I'll admit I'm wrong if it happens, which I hope I'll never have the chance to do. But, I don't know what else Biden could be referring to.
I'll admit I'm wrong if it happens, which I hope I'll never have the chance to do. But, I don't know what else Biden could be referring to.
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written by LongviewCyclist, October 21, 2008
Starsky: I DON"T want Obama elected. But I'm locking and loading, none-the-less.
Terry136: As I said, I know that it is legally probably considered an admission of guilt. And as I said, they have not *literally* admitted guilt (that is to say, a spoken admission, or issuing a written statement of guilt). Terefore, the title is kind of (I did say *kind of*) misleading.
But it's all good. I just want Obama to go away.
Terry136: As I said, I know that it is legally probably considered an admission of guilt. And as I said, they have not *literally* admitted guilt (that is to say, a spoken admission, or issuing a written statement of guilt). Terefore, the title is kind of (I did say *kind of*) misleading.
But it's all good. I just want Obama to go away.
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written by Steve, October 21, 2008
Concerned Citizen,
Yes, you are probably correct on this being the "International Crisis", but that is only if Obooma is elected. We all have to go out and vote to do our part to prevent the "False Messiah" from winning...And you know it will be very tough even if McCain has the votes, you know Obooma and his followers will somehow lie and cheat to get in!! If you think the 2000 fiasco with Gore/Bush was bad, we have all seen nothing yet!!!
I'm praying hard!!!
Yes, you are probably correct on this being the "International Crisis", but that is only if Obooma is elected. We all have to go out and vote to do our part to prevent the "False Messiah" from winning...And you know it will be very tough even if McCain has the votes, you know Obooma and his followers will somehow lie and cheat to get in!! If you think the 2000 fiasco with Gore/Bush was bad, we have all seen nothing yet!!!
I'm praying hard!!!
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written by Glen Thomas, October 21, 2008
Maybe we have to get McCain to file this lawsuit. McCain is probably the only one that can do this as stated in the link below:
http://www.michiganlawreview.org/firstimpressions/vol107/tokaji.pdf
THE JUSTICIABILITY OF ELIGIBILITY:
MAY COURTS DECIDE WHO
CAN BE PRESIDENT?
Daniel P. Tokaji* †
…..If Obama were to file a federal lawsuit challenging McCain’s eligibility, there
would be a much stronger claim of injury than in a case brought by the AIP
or its candidate. Obama could plausibly claim that he is suffering an injury
that satisfies Article III through the diminution in his own chances to win
Electoral College votes and, therefore, to become president……..
http://www.michiganlawreview.org/firstimpressions/vol107/tokaji.pdf
THE JUSTICIABILITY OF ELIGIBILITY:
MAY COURTS DECIDE WHO
CAN BE PRESIDENT?
Daniel P. Tokaji* †
…..If Obama were to file a federal lawsuit challenging McCain’s eligibility, there
would be a much stronger claim of injury than in a case brought by the AIP
or its candidate. Obama could plausibly claim that he is suffering an injury
that satisfies Article III through the diminution in his own chances to win
Electoral College votes and, therefore, to become president……..
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written by nobamanohow, October 21, 2008
In response to D-Motivated:
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“Read your constitution
written by D-Motivated, October 21, 2008
The only judge of the qualifications for president is the congress, which certifies the electoral vote. And guess what? The Democrats will control both houses. Give up, it’s over, you lose.”
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“To: D-Motivated: You forget one thing. Congress does not interpret the Constituion, the U.S. Supreme Court does. Bush v. Gore gave standing to intervene in President elections. Guess who is in power of the U.S. Supreme Court, the Republicans. The Highest Court of the land will interpret Art. II qualifications and listen to both sides present evidence if the decision in the lower federal court is appealed to the supreme automatically. As a lawyer, I know this. Bush v. Gore trumped Congress (Senate) deciding the issue b/c it was a federal question - interpretation of Article II.”
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“Read your constitution
written by D-Motivated, October 21, 2008
The only judge of the qualifications for president is the congress, which certifies the electoral vote. And guess what? The Democrats will control both houses. Give up, it’s over, you lose.”
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“To: D-Motivated: You forget one thing. Congress does not interpret the Constituion, the U.S. Supreme Court does. Bush v. Gore gave standing to intervene in President elections. Guess who is in power of the U.S. Supreme Court, the Republicans. The Highest Court of the land will interpret Art. II qualifications and listen to both sides present evidence if the decision in the lower federal court is appealed to the supreme automatically. As a lawyer, I know this. Bush v. Gore trumped Congress (Senate) deciding the issue b/c it was a federal question - interpretation of Article II.”
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written by trtretret, October 21, 2008
Every american citizen over the age of 18 who registered to vote needs to file a lawsuit against the government over their attempted fraud to have an illegal run for dictator of the USA
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written by dj, October 21, 2008
All of this chat is fine and well but nada has been done to date and Obama does not seem to be worried at all. It certainly seems like nothing will be done. How long can a filing like this sit around without judicial review? I would like to think there is some sort of time limit.
Maybe there is no birth cert. because Obama was not born at all. Alien invasion?
Maybe there is no birth cert. because Obama was not born at all. Alien invasion?
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written by Marie , October 21, 2008
Below is the body of an email I sent out to everyone on my contacts list--even those I know are Obama supporters. Please feel free to copy it and send it out to all your friends asking them to send it on. Maybe a viral email campaign will help.
ML,
In all my 28 years of possessing a security clearance, I've never seen such a breach in our national security as what is occurring in this election. Below is a list of records Obama has not released. The online short form electronic image of his birth certificate is thought by many experts to be a forgery. The only government body that is responsible for making sure that candidates are qualified is Diane Feinstein's Senate Committee on Rules and Administration, and surprise, as a Democrat she has not required Sen. Obama to provide documentation verifying his constitutional eligibility. Also, the FBI does not do a background check on sitting senators.
The mainstream media is not reporting the fact that lawsuits are popping up all across the country (including Hawaii) asking the courts to mandate that Obama prove he is a natural born citizen or withdraw from the race. Evidence is mounting that he was, in fact, born in Kenya and that he lost his US citizenship when he lived in Indonesia and was adopted by his stepfather. If this were not true, then why are his lawyers going to all the effort to delay and postpone efforts in these cases instead of simply turning over the documents--just like John McCain did when his citizenship was questioned? See these links for more info:
http://www.obamacrimes.com/
http://www.americasright.com/
http://www.contrariancommentary.com/community/Home/tabid/36/mid/363/newsid363/288/Default.aspx
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
As you know, I am not a wild-eyed conspiracy theorist. I've followed this situation over months and have researched it extensively. I believe there is little doubt that he is deliberately trying to con the American people. Feel free to pass this email on to whomever you like. I can't bear to see this country go down because of his calculated attempt to deceive the American people. The mainstream media has completely failed the American people. They have done way more vetting of Joe the Plumber than Barack Obama.
Here is a list of all the records Obama has NOT released:
1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- "not available"
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- "not available"
8. Law practice client list -- Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate - - Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
13. Record of baptism -- Not released or "not available"
14. Illinois State Senate records -- "not available"
ML,
In all my 28 years of possessing a security clearance, I've never seen such a breach in our national security as what is occurring in this election. Below is a list of records Obama has not released. The online short form electronic image of his birth certificate is thought by many experts to be a forgery. The only government body that is responsible for making sure that candidates are qualified is Diane Feinstein's Senate Committee on Rules and Administration, and surprise, as a Democrat she has not required Sen. Obama to provide documentation verifying his constitutional eligibility. Also, the FBI does not do a background check on sitting senators.
The mainstream media is not reporting the fact that lawsuits are popping up all across the country (including Hawaii) asking the courts to mandate that Obama prove he is a natural born citizen or withdraw from the race. Evidence is mounting that he was, in fact, born in Kenya and that he lost his US citizenship when he lived in Indonesia and was adopted by his stepfather. If this were not true, then why are his lawyers going to all the effort to delay and postpone efforts in these cases instead of simply turning over the documents--just like John McCain did when his citizenship was questioned? See these links for more info:
http://www.obamacrimes.com/
http://www.americasright.com/
http://www.contrariancommentary.com/community/Home/tabid/36/mid/363/newsid363/288/Default.aspx
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
As you know, I am not a wild-eyed conspiracy theorist. I've followed this situation over months and have researched it extensively. I believe there is little doubt that he is deliberately trying to con the American people. Feel free to pass this email on to whomever you like. I can't bear to see this country go down because of his calculated attempt to deceive the American people. The mainstream media has completely failed the American people. They have done way more vetting of Joe the Plumber than Barack Obama.
Here is a list of all the records Obama has NOT released:
1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- "not available"
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- "not available"
8. Law practice client list -- Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate - - Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
13. Record of baptism -- Not released or "not available"
14. Illinois State Senate records -- "not available"
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written by sos, October 21, 2008
Concerned Citizen:
Biden was referring to Israel going to war with Iran if Obama gets elected. Israel knows that BO has lied to them about his support, just to get elected [sound familiar?] and they know they will just have a few months before BO shows his true colors and associations with his Middle East allies turns against them.
Biden was referring to Israel going to war with Iran if Obama gets elected. Israel knows that BO has lied to them about his support, just to get elected [sound familiar?] and they know they will just have a few months before BO shows his true colors and associations with his Middle East allies turns against them.
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written by NanH, October 21, 2008
What the hell? I thought when a lawsuit was filed then you were required to answer. Why are they not making him produce his birth certificate? The only thing I can ascertain from this is that he is hiding something. What has happened to the law of the land? Is this so big that they can't/won't make him answer or is it collusion?>
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written by momof7, October 22, 2008
McCain and Obama vote practically the same. Why bash only Obama......bash McCain too! There are others running for president. Consider them......especially Chuck Baldwin. You probably agree more with Chuck Baldwin than anyone else anyway. How about our freedoms of America. Your rights will be stripped away with Obama and McCain. They just agreed to steal 700 million dollars from your money pot that you contributed in taxes. What are they doing with our money......give it back!
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written by daniel, October 22, 2008
The FEC comes out on the 60th day to tell us they cannot deal with constitutional issues. hmmmmmmmm. WHAT THE HECK EVER HAPPENED TO PATRIOTISM? The FEC is automatically given an 60 extension because government status. Seems it would have been better for the country to tell us they don't have jurisdiction in constitutional issues way before the 60 days, how about 5 days. They have be be bought and paid for.
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written by Benjamin Bagnal, October 22, 2008
written by daniel, October 21, 2008
I have no choice but to vote the McCain/Palin ticket but yet I can't help wonder why McCain or Palin has not made the story public. I feel very strong about this and ANYONE, even McCain who knew about the story and did NOT report it to the general population should be held accountable, that goes for GW, Hillary and many many more.[/]
I've wondered about the same thing and could come up with only one plausible explanation.
This is my opinion, but I think it's likely that Obama and the DNC are going to be able to delay any production in these cases until after the election. The GOP feels that the issue is probably not going to benefit McCain prior to the election - unless something BIG happens. So they just play out the election. If McCain loses, they sit back and watch the Democrats implode when the truth comes out. Then, with the Dems embroiled in probably the biggest fraud and cover up in U.S. history - the GOP will be poised to come back strong in 2010 and 2012.
I have no choice but to vote the McCain/Palin ticket but yet I can't help wonder why McCain or Palin has not made the story public. I feel very strong about this and ANYONE, even McCain who knew about the story and did NOT report it to the general population should be held accountable, that goes for GW, Hillary and many many more.[/]
I've wondered about the same thing and could come up with only one plausible explanation.
This is my opinion, but I think it's likely that Obama and the DNC are going to be able to delay any production in these cases until after the election. The GOP feels that the issue is probably not going to benefit McCain prior to the election - unless something BIG happens. So they just play out the election. If McCain loses, they sit back and watch the Democrats implode when the truth comes out. Then, with the Dems embroiled in probably the biggest fraud and cover up in U.S. history - the GOP will be poised to come back strong in 2010 and 2012.
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written by James1970, October 22, 2008
Obamas grandmother falls ill and he "suspends his campaign for a day and a half" to fly to Hawiii to be with her.
Thats kind of interesting knowing that another lawsuit was filed in Hawii with regards to Obama's citizenship status just last week.
Thats kind of interesting knowing that another lawsuit was filed in Hawii with regards to Obama's citizenship status just last week.
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written by DABIIGRAGU, October 22, 2008
Status
written by David Archbold, October 21, 2008
www.OperationExposeObama.com
Next call in show is Thursday at 8 pm Central - Call 605-475-8500 PIN 5092984
Talking Points
Original suit from Berg V Obama in Federal court; Steve Marquiz (kez) modified suit to target WA Sec. of State (chief elections official for WA) to demand WA SoS receive copy of BC; I modified Marquiz v Reed for CA and figured out which changes had to be made so this could be filed in each state; recruiting efforts for localizing to other states has been done through obamacrimes.com
The document is a demand through lawsuit against each state's chief elections official to get a copy of the Vault BC from Hawaii and any additional hospital documents attesting to Obama's birth.
Since our federal laws are national, the majority of the document is the same for all states. Each state does require some effort to localize to state statutes and chief elections official is properly named. The complaint template is designed specifically to allow for easy identification of what needs changed and so that it can be filed in most jurisdictions.
The work needed to research for each state can be done by an average person in a day and probably filed the next day. What you need to know is who is your state-wide elections official, how are candidates placed on the ballot, and what legal mechanism must the candidate do to provide the state-wide elections official with credentials (proof of US citizenship by natural birth).
States with prepared documents are CAlifornia, Texas, and Florida. Ohio is pending and very murky. I do not have any other states prepared - and Washington State document is not court ready. I am going to ask for volunteers to help prepare documents for other states so that we can get as many as quickly as possible. There is obviously work for all states and some states may deny based on local time rules as the election is so very close upon us; it may be possible to get this going in every state by the end of the week.
If you are capable of producing a document even just for your state, I would be glad to host a copy at my own website for further redistribution to as many as possible.
It may very well be possible to get enough challenges filed that we not only grind this election to a halt, but that we succeed in removing Obama from those same ballots.
To join an existing filing you will need to provide your name, address, phone, and signature. This can be emailed to me for distribution to the person who is handling that state filing. I am making best effort to keep this organized so that we can surge individual states with existing filings.
Arizona Voters: I will be preparing your state's document tonight, late. You have the biggest piece of the puzzle to force Obama's hand. Your state requires a candidate to produce an affidavit of candidacy stating they meet USC qualifications. We can use this to corner Obama to validate his affidavit.
Ohio: Someone please get this filing started. I have a form that can be filed now. Please someone try and keep me posted.
Texas voters: Contact Steve Dallas
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Florida status: we need donations of $350 for filing fee. What we need is for as many people as possible to join in this one case so that it has greater standing because of a large number of people associating themselves with the case. If you want to join in any state, join the existing case. Washington and Utah have cases
My email is
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http://www.davidnotary.biz/states/
Repost to as many different forums as possible.
written by David Archbold, October 21, 2008
www.OperationExposeObama.com
Next call in show is Thursday at 8 pm Central - Call 605-475-8500 PIN 5092984
Talking Points
Original suit from Berg V Obama in Federal court; Steve Marquiz (kez) modified suit to target WA Sec. of State (chief elections official for WA) to demand WA SoS receive copy of BC; I modified Marquiz v Reed for CA and figured out which changes had to be made so this could be filed in each state; recruiting efforts for localizing to other states has been done through obamacrimes.com
The document is a demand through lawsuit against each state's chief elections official to get a copy of the Vault BC from Hawaii and any additional hospital documents attesting to Obama's birth.
Since our federal laws are national, the majority of the document is the same for all states. Each state does require some effort to localize to state statutes and chief elections official is properly named. The complaint template is designed specifically to allow for easy identification of what needs changed and so that it can be filed in most jurisdictions.
The work needed to research for each state can be done by an average person in a day and probably filed the next day. What you need to know is who is your state-wide elections official, how are candidates placed on the ballot, and what legal mechanism must the candidate do to provide the state-wide elections official with credentials (proof of US citizenship by natural birth).
States with prepared documents are CAlifornia, Texas, and Florida. Ohio is pending and very murky. I do not have any other states prepared - and Washington State document is not court ready. I am going to ask for volunteers to help prepare documents for other states so that we can get as many as quickly as possible. There is obviously work for all states and some states may deny based on local time rules as the election is so very close upon us; it may be possible to get this going in every state by the end of the week.
If you are capable of producing a document even just for your state, I would be glad to host a copy at my own website for further redistribution to as many as possible.
It may very well be possible to get enough challenges filed that we not only grind this election to a halt, but that we succeed in removing Obama from those same ballots.
To join an existing filing you will need to provide your name, address, phone, and signature. This can be emailed to me for distribution to the person who is handling that state filing. I am making best effort to keep this organized so that we can surge individual states with existing filings.
Arizona Voters: I will be preparing your state's document tonight, late. You have the biggest piece of the puzzle to force Obama's hand. Your state requires a candidate to produce an affidavit of candidacy stating they meet USC qualifications. We can use this to corner Obama to validate his affidavit.
Ohio: Someone please get this filing started. I have a form that can be filed now. Please someone try and keep me posted.
Texas voters: Contact Steve Dallas
This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it '> \n This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it '> This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it his e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it to join with his suit. He want 100 people to sign on before filing it. Steve was wonderful enough to produce the Texas and Florida documents we so desperately needed to get this done.
Florida status: we need donations of $350 for filing fee. What we need is for as many people as possible to join in this one case so that it has greater standing because of a large number of people associating themselves with the case. If you want to join in any state, join the existing case. Washington and Utah have cases
My email is
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http://www.davidnotary.biz/states/
Repost to as many different forums as possible.
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written by ozel01, October 22, 2008
this case is actually happening, here is the link to the Eastern District of PA Federal Court website where the contents of the Berg case are being maintained by the Federal Court:
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/
Just ending any myth that this case is a myth.
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/
Just ending any myth that this case is a myth.
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written by David08, October 22, 2008
US intelligence: Iran will be able to build first nuclear bomb by February 2009
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
October 21, 2008, 8:46 PM (GMT+02:00)
US intelligence’s amended estimate, that Iran will be ready to build its first bomb just one month after the next US president is sworn in, is disclosed by DEBKAfile’s Washington sources as having been relayed as a guideline to the Middle East teams of both presidential candidates, Senators John McCain and Barack Obama.
The information prompted the assertion by Democratic vice presidential nominee Joseph Biden in Seattle Sunday, Oct. 19: “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy.”
McCain retorted Tuesday, Oct. 21: “America does not need a president that needs to be tested. I’ve been tested. I was aboard the Enterprise off the coast of Cuba. I’ve been there.”
http://www.debka.com
[Leaders in Israel believe they have a deadline of inauguration to take out Iran if little Barry is successful in hyjacking America]
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
October 21, 2008, 8:46 PM (GMT+02:00)
US intelligence’s amended estimate, that Iran will be ready to build its first bomb just one month after the next US president is sworn in, is disclosed by DEBKAfile’s Washington sources as having been relayed as a guideline to the Middle East teams of both presidential candidates, Senators John McCain and Barack Obama.
The information prompted the assertion by Democratic vice presidential nominee Joseph Biden in Seattle Sunday, Oct. 19: “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy.”
McCain retorted Tuesday, Oct. 21: “America does not need a president that needs to be tested. I’ve been tested. I was aboard the Enterprise off the coast of Cuba. I’ve been there.”
http://www.debka.com
[Leaders in Israel believe they have a deadline of inauguration to take out Iran if little Barry is successful in hyjacking America]
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written by angie Horton, October 22, 2008
Ok, I thought that Obama and the DNC appealed the judges order to produce?? So doesn't that mean that Berg knew they would not produce the documents. So, this was expected and there would be a hearing in the court of appeals, right? Someone help me out here
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written by ozel01, October 22, 2008
of reasons why the GOP and McCain/Palin are not bringing this to the attention of the public. I suspect they are waiting to see if the judge makes a ruling. If the judge were to actually throw out the case, then there would be no argument or case. However, if the judge either issues an order then the case is given more merit. Remember though, even if the judge issues an order, Obama and the DNC can appeal the decision. This case may very well be decided by the Supreme Court before it is over with and that could be several months down the road. If the case continues to drag too close to the election without action, the GOP may join the case and make it public then. They will likely use it as an ace in the hole.
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written by Dobe, October 22, 2008
MSM makes me sick...
Just fast scan is enough to puke, they just can not stop licking Obama's ass, loud and in plain view.
Shame on all of us.
Who the heck is so desperate to elect him, this is getting just beyond obvious!!!!
Have you people any shred of dignity left?
dobe
Just fast scan is enough to puke, they just can not stop licking Obama's ass, loud and in plain view.
Shame on all of us.
Who the heck is so desperate to elect him, this is getting just beyond obvious!!!!
Have you people any shred of dignity left?
dobe
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written by Luke.Sanderlin, October 22, 2008
NOONE will touch this issue? noone will comment?
Request for Admissions is part of the Discovery Process
written by Luke.Sanderlin, October 21, 2008
Discovery Conference in compliance with FRCP 26(f)
written by Luke.Sanderlin, October 21, 2008
Guys,
Can you clarify the argument that Phil’s request for discovery was improper? FRCP 26(d)(1) states "A party may not seek discovery from any source before the parties have conferred as required by Rule 26(f), except in a proceeding exempted from initial disclosure under Rule 26(a)(1)(B), or when authorized by these rules, by stipulation, or by court order." Since a Conference of the Parties; Planning for Discovery re FRCP 26 (f) was not held, I fail to see why the defendants would have to answer the discovery request.
I firmly feel the proper way to proceed would to be to file a petition for writ of mandamus with the Honorable Third Circuit Court or the Honorable SCOTUS if the feeling that the Third Circuit will not expeditious enough.
This is not intended to undermine Philip Berg. This is to assist with guiding this case in the proper direction. If anyone has a problem with my line of questioning, please look at my previous posts here. This is in the case’s best interest. As nice as it would be to have Senator Obama and the DNC forced into these decisions, I don't think it's viable.
Any comment on this from Berg? any speculation on your behalf?
Thanks,
Luke
A 'Request for Admissions' is part of the discovery process, which cannot proceed until after the Conference of the Parties; Planning for Discovery as FRCP 26 (f) asserts. FRCP Rule 26 Subdivision (f) provides a special meeting between the parties to organize their discovery process; this is a required step. Formal Discovery cannot proceed until this conference has been concluded.
P J Maddox "A REAL Lawyer", can you confirm or counter this claim?
Again read my above post, I am not disputing this case. Read my previous comments. I'd just like to see this case on the right track and I don't think Mr. Berg is correct on this matter, though I'll admit I could be wrong, that's why I'd like someone to take issue with what I have to say. If I'm wrong I'll freely admit it.
Regards,
Luke
Below are some references:
A request for admissions (sometimes also called a request to admit) are a set of statements sent from one litigant to an adversary, for the purpose of having the adversary admit or deny the statements or allegations therein. Requests for admissions are part of the discovery process in a civil case.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...admissions
A discovery procedure, authorized by the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and the court rules of many states, in which one party asks an opposing party to admit that certain facts are true.
http://www.nolo.com/definition...D/alpha/R/
Definition of discovery:
Definition: A formal procedure established by the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and corresponding state procedural rules in which parties to a lawsuit exchange information and documents in an effort to "discover" facts relevant to the lawsuit and identify potential witnesses and evidence.
Discovery devices include depositions, interrogatories, requests for admissions, requests for production of documents and requests for inspection.
http://legalcareers.about.com/...covery.htm
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written by Linda Starr in TX, October 22, 2008
54,252,019 or 3,544,718 in 24 hours
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written by Skip, October 22, 2008
It is being posted on just about every comment post page on the Houston Cronicle's web site. People are going nuts about this! I bumped KSEV here in Houston. Those guys should pick up on this in the morning and comment. FOX is being bombbarded right now as we type. So is Hannity!
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written by Dean, October 22, 2008
I wholly support this effort, but it's obvious that these postings of "hits" are simply uninformed. There is simply no way there have been as many real "visits" that are being touted. PLEASE read this: http://www.thatdanny.com/2008/...-to-avoid/
I've emailed my concerns about the misleading nature of the current web statistics regarding the term "hits." Yes, there are probably many people checking this website out, but your reading of "hits" is simply inaccurate. We need to be agents of truth.
I've emailed my concerns about the misleading nature of the current web statistics regarding the term "hits." Yes, there are probably many people checking this website out, but your reading of "hits" is simply inaccurate. We need to be agents of truth.
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written by Kapt Blasto, October 22, 2008
You guys are worried about this soon-to-be violation of constitutional law....
And you all REALLY NEED TO BE GRIEVOUSLY CONCERNED (and possibly madder than heck) about the CONTINUOUS 95-year and possibly longer VIOLATION of the US constitution when it comes to MONETARY CREATION and Distribution of newly created Money and credit.
What I am telling you good folks, now, gets swept under the rug faster and with more vigor, than any other possible issure you get to entreat your brains about today.
that's kind of why you look at my posting here and everything I am saying just passes over your head, as you ignore it, because you JUST CANT get it...It looks like the ravings of a lunatic with his tinfoil hat put on too tight...
Or what's worse, you KNOW ALL TOO WELL what I am talking about, and you have thrown your hands up in the air, just like the poor lunchpail lamb-and-eggers in tehran (can't say HAM-and-eggers, because they wont touch pork!) throwing their hands up in the air, over their stupid Mullahs and Ahmadenijad, becuae of their intractability, just like we perennially do with our congress, and they go along shouting "death to america!" just like everyone else, over there, for fear of disappearing....just like we every four years. go along to get along. vote D or R, and get our proverbial GUARANTEED BANK-APPROVED TURKEY, just in time for thanksgiving, to complement the Butterball we get to eat, only with us we fear, either our Money Disappearing to useless taxes, our our sons (and now our daughters) disappearing to fight in a war halfway around the world, and dreading them coming back in a box....and then having our money disappear from our 401-k's
The REAL PROBLEM is in 1913 We got hoodwinked into believing that NON-GOVERNMENTAL institutions would be better at controlling creation of money than our government is. In that same year, We were hoodwinked into believing that only the "rich" were going to have to file those 1040 IRS forms, not we lunch-pail folks.
THIS 1-2 punch (brought to you by Democratic President Woodrow Wilson in 1913) gave the banks the powers they needed, for the wealthy to lead themselves astray, by smooth talkers promising BIG TAX BREAKS and TAX HAVENS , and brought World War I to Europe. Soviet Socialism to Russia (1917) National Socialism (Fascism, same thing) to Germany and Italiy, and japan, and set them up for WWII,
I hope most of you do realize that Banking and Warfare go hand in hand, and the only institutions that the biggest war profitters are BANKS, think of it...how else other than military buildups can Banks use to sow tons of money seed? to reap it all back in interest payments, and then some in Late Fees, when the regular payments gets stalled?
In the case of WWII, why do you think the MArshall Plan to rebuild Europe after the war was implemented? The banks over in London, being underwriters of underwriters of Loans that Allied Govt's made, were sure that as victors THEY were going to pay up...but the losers...well, they wanted to make sure THEY were going to be in a position they were going to pay up too ... Of course that's just my thoughts, trying to make sense of it all.
Let me close this post by saying this (and I know it's a rather long post again, sorry if your eyeballs are straining.)
If your worried about BO being president, but you don't like McCain...there's ALWAYS Republican Congressman BOB BARR, running under the libertarian ticket.
And you all REALLY NEED TO BE GRIEVOUSLY CONCERNED (and possibly madder than heck) about the CONTINUOUS 95-year and possibly longer VIOLATION of the US constitution when it comes to MONETARY CREATION and Distribution of newly created Money and credit.
What I am telling you good folks, now, gets swept under the rug faster and with more vigor, than any other possible issure you get to entreat your brains about today.
that's kind of why you look at my posting here and everything I am saying just passes over your head, as you ignore it, because you JUST CANT get it...It looks like the ravings of a lunatic with his tinfoil hat put on too tight...
Or what's worse, you KNOW ALL TOO WELL what I am talking about, and you have thrown your hands up in the air, just like the poor lunchpail lamb-and-eggers in tehran (can't say HAM-and-eggers, because they wont touch pork!) throwing their hands up in the air, over their stupid Mullahs and Ahmadenijad, becuae of their intractability, just like we perennially do with our congress, and they go along shouting "death to america!" just like everyone else, over there, for fear of disappearing....just like we every four years. go along to get along. vote D or R, and get our proverbial GUARANTEED BANK-APPROVED TURKEY, just in time for thanksgiving, to complement the Butterball we get to eat, only with us we fear, either our Money Disappearing to useless taxes, our our sons (and now our daughters) disappearing to fight in a war halfway around the world, and dreading them coming back in a box....and then having our money disappear from our 401-k's
The REAL PROBLEM is in 1913 We got hoodwinked into believing that NON-GOVERNMENTAL institutions would be better at controlling creation of money than our government is. In that same year, We were hoodwinked into believing that only the "rich" were going to have to file those 1040 IRS forms, not we lunch-pail folks.
THIS 1-2 punch (brought to you by Democratic President Woodrow Wilson in 1913) gave the banks the powers they needed, for the wealthy to lead themselves astray, by smooth talkers promising BIG TAX BREAKS and TAX HAVENS , and brought World War I to Europe. Soviet Socialism to Russia (1917) National Socialism (Fascism, same thing) to Germany and Italiy, and japan, and set them up for WWII,
I hope most of you do realize that Banking and Warfare go hand in hand, and the only institutions that the biggest war profitters are BANKS, think of it...how else other than military buildups can Banks use to sow tons of money seed? to reap it all back in interest payments, and then some in Late Fees, when the regular payments gets stalled?
In the case of WWII, why do you think the MArshall Plan to rebuild Europe after the war was implemented? The banks over in London, being underwriters of underwriters of Loans that Allied Govt's made, were sure that as victors THEY were going to pay up...but the losers...well, they wanted to make sure THEY were going to be in a position they were going to pay up too ... Of course that's just my thoughts, trying to make sense of it all.
Let me close this post by saying this (and I know it's a rather long post again, sorry if your eyeballs are straining.)
If your worried about BO being president, but you don't like McCain...there's ALWAYS Republican Congressman BOB BARR, running under the libertarian ticket.
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written by Mark Osborne, October 22, 2008
I agree with Dean -- I simply don't believe the stats that are being presented about the number of "hits". Perhaps the Webmaster for ObamaCrimes.com could provide some data on the number of unique visitors, total visitors, etc.?
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written by Terry136, October 22, 2008
I've emailed my concerns about the misleading nature of the current web statistics regarding the term "hits." Yes, there are probably many people checking this website out, but your reading of "hits" is simply inaccurate. We need to be agents of truth.
And where did you come up with your revelation the hits are "inaccurate"? Do you have access to this site's server logs, or is it YOUR OPINION the hits are inaccurate? Please supply references that you used to arrive at your conclusion that the number of hits is inaccurate.
This site is popular, and will be instrumental in bringing Obama down. Accept it, and get over it.
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written by Mary Beth House, October 22, 2008
Kapt Blasto...
While you and everyone else is free to vote for whomever you wish (obviously), a vote for anyone other than McCain equals a half vote for Obama.
Neither Bob Barr nor any other third party candidate has a chance. It will be either Obama or McCain. So why would you or anyone else give a de facto half vote for Obama?
While you and everyone else is free to vote for whomever you wish (obviously), a vote for anyone other than McCain equals a half vote for Obama.
Neither Bob Barr nor any other third party candidate has a chance. It will be either Obama or McCain. So why would you or anyone else give a de facto half vote for Obama?
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written by Mary Beth, October 22, 2008
Pay attention people! We cannot afford BHO!
The Consequences of Defeat:
http://townhall.com/columnists...ments=true
The Consequences of Defeat:
http://townhall.com/columnists...ments=true
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written by Dean, October 22, 2008
Believe me, I am all for these efforts, but because I do much work with websites and such, I understand just how misleading some terms can be--hence, my inclusion of the website link I provided. It is a common mistake to read "website statistics" and assume that "hits" means "number of individual visits," but that's simply not the case. Read the link I posted. Every fibre of my being wants Phil to bring down "Barry the Kenyan," but posting such web stats is a form of misrepresentation. Again, read the posted link--you might, then, understand.
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written by James1970, October 22, 2008
Here's another question what in the hell are we supossed to do? We hear "email MSM" "call radio,tv and other media outlets", and "tell everone you know" hey you know what.......Ive done all of that and then Ive done again!
So are we simply supposed to wait, and let the same system that has slowly brought us to this point, fix the problems??
This is a great plan and idea dont you think?
So are we simply supposed to wait, and let the same system that has slowly brought us to this point, fix the problems??
This is a great plan and idea dont you think?
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written by Kapt Blasto, October 22, 2008
It is no coincidence that Election Day is held so close after Halloween and so near to Thanksgiving...
No matter which way she votes, America Scares herself up a stinkin' turkey either way.
Put Donkey and Elephants back into the Zoo.
Vote Libertarian, and feel better, too!
So maybe THIS thanksgiving, We'll Really have something to be thankful about!
No matter which way she votes, America Scares herself up a stinkin' turkey either way.
Put Donkey and Elephants back into the Zoo.
Vote Libertarian, and feel better, too!
So maybe THIS thanksgiving, We'll Really have something to be thankful about!
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written by James1970, October 22, 2008
constitution party------If this was up to them the question would have answered a long time ago
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written by Dean, October 22, 2008
By the way . . . if you're not an expert in the arena of web statistics, please just keep your mouth shut. You show your obvious ignorance with your post. And, don't simply assume that I am opposed to these efforts. I am all for this. I'm speaking about something you obviously don't know anything about. This site is NOT receiving MILLIONS of unique visitors. "Hits," in webspeak, DOES NOT denote unique visitors--but it is often mistaken to mean such by the uninformed. Again, I'm only interested in this site being an agent of truth--and posting such stats through ignorance doesn't accomplish that. Webmaster--please understand--"HITS" DOES NOT MEAN NUMBER OF VISITORS!!! Do some real research before you unleash another misleading number.
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written by silent observer, October 22, 2008
> ...your reading of "hits" is simply inaccurate. We need to be agents of truth.
I like to believe that I'm an "agent of truth" as well as one who understands when to pick a battle.
Please don't cloud the point of stasis with "it's 'hits' vs 'unique ips'".
"hits vs ips" aside there certainly are a LARGE number of people viewing this site.
peace to you and et al.
I like to believe that I'm an "agent of truth" as well as one who understands when to pick a battle.
Please don't cloud the point of stasis with "it's 'hits' vs 'unique ips'".
"hits vs ips" aside there certainly are a LARGE number of people viewing this site.
peace to you and et al.
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written by Dean, October 22, 2008
Yes, I agree with you. There are likely a LARGE number of folks visiting this site--but the "millions" thing being reported is simply not true. It's a common error--but it's an error nonetheless.
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written by Charles Rich, October 22, 2008
Let's just say the worst comes to fruition and Barack Obama wins the election. Just as he's refused to show his birth certificate in a court of law by way of a delaying tactic claiming Mr. Berg has no legal standing. Americans should immediately refuse to pay all federal taxes! Your response should be that until Barack Obama proves he was born in America, he has no legal standing to be your president, thus you will refuse to pay all federal taxes until Obama proves whether or not he fulfills all the legal requirements to hold the office of president of the United States!
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written by Nick, October 22, 2008
http://www.rallycongress.com/c...nal-crisis
Sign the petition! Pass on these links I've just posted to anyone you can.
Sign the petition! Pass on these links I've just posted to anyone you can.
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written by Nick, October 22, 2008
No Dean I was just giving the Andy Martin site for people that may want to keep up with the updates.
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written by Nick, October 22, 2008
Terry is right HITS are not unique guys. They are simply counting all traffic no matter how many times that person goes to the site everyday. With unique visits the persons is counted only once (ip address is what it keeps track of). It would be interesting to see what the unique visits is. On Alexa.com the site is ranked 74,000 which is pretty darn good. Anyway, just clearing that up.
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written by Mark A., October 22, 2008
The failure to timely respond to Requests for Admissions is valid because the protective order effectively staying discovery requested by the defense was not granted by the court, and the defense's October 6 motion for protective order FAILED to specifically object to any of the Admissions. Per Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, a party upon whom requests for admissions has been served must respond within 30 days, or the admissions in the requests will be automatically deemed conclusively admitted for purposes of the pending action. Rule 26f does not apply because again, the motion for protective order was not yet granted.
This is a civil case. Some posts evoke "innocent until proven guilty." That’s true in criminal law. This is civil law. The burden of proof on the defendant in a case like this. (If this were not so, you would never have to show identification, even for a traffic stop or to board an airliner.)
The defense wants a "protective order" issued. They forget that this is not a trade secrets case. This is a case that requires complete transparency.
This is a civil case. Some posts evoke "innocent until proven guilty." That’s true in criminal law. This is civil law. The burden of proof on the defendant in a case like this. (If this were not so, you would never have to show identification, even for a traffic stop or to board an airliner.)
The defense wants a "protective order" issued. They forget that this is not a trade secrets case. This is a case that requires complete transparency.
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written by silent observer, October 22, 2008
> Yes, I agree with you. There are likely a LARGE number of folks visiting this site
ok
> ...but the "millions" thing being reported is simply not true.
isn't that what we agreed upon?
> It's a common error--but it's an error nonetheless.
nonetheless, it's nothing to do with the case at hand.
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the case is about eligibility to hold the office of President of the USA. Not about PR for this site.
ok
> ...but the "millions" thing being reported is simply not true.
isn't that what we agreed upon?
> It's a common error--but it's an error nonetheless.
nonetheless, it's nothing to do with the case at hand.
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the case is about eligibility to hold the office of President of the USA. Not about PR for this site.
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written by Marie , October 22, 2008
Senator Bob Bennet from Utah is the Ranking Member (Republican) of the Senate Rules and Administration Committee. He may or may not know that his committee has been identified as a defendent in the Berg case. Diane Feinstein may not be shouting it from the rooftop if you know what I mean. I just sent him a letter (see below) asking him to investigate this matter quickly. I think we should all (especially any of you who live in his district!!) send him letters asking for his help. Please flood his email with letters so he understands that this is not just a crazy conspiracy kook but that there is legitimate and widespread concern out there.
Here is the link to send him an email.
https://bennett.senate.gov/contact/email_casework.html
Below is the email I just sent him. Please, everyone--Democrats, Republicans, Independents--if you are concerned that our constitution is being trampled please let's flood his email with letters of concern and beg him to help do something before its too late.
Sen. Bennett,
On October 6th, an amendment was filed in the case of Berg vs Obama, et al, Civil Action No: 08-cv-04083 in the District Court of Eastern Pennsylvania that adds the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration as a defendent in the case.
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/
The plaintiff, Mr. Berg states that this committee has the responsibility to ensure that Sen. Obama is, in fact, constitutionally eligible to be president of the United States. Evidence is mounting to suggest that Sen. Obama has falsified his affidavits of eligibility that he submitted when running for the Senate as well as for the Presidency. Mr. Berg also has evidence to suggest that Sen. Obama is, in fact, not a natural born citizen of the United States and may, in fact, have lost his citizenship when he was adopted by his Indonesian stepfather.
Since Sen. Obama has consistently refused to produce certified copies of birth records and other documentation of his citizenship, there are millions of American citizens who are concerned that he is attempting to gain the highest office in the land through illegal, fraudulent means. In recent weeks, lawsuits have been filed in other states, including the State of Hawaii, asking courts to mandate that Sen. Obama and the DNC prove that he is eligible by producing the required birth records and evidence of citizenship. We fear we are headed for a constitutional crisis that will result in serious problems for the country.
As the Ranking Member of the Senate Rules Committee, would it not be your responsibility to investigate this situation and ensure that Sen. Obama is, in fact, qualified to be President? We simply cannot wait for this situation to drag through the courts. If Sen. Obama wins the election and it is later determined via the courts that he is not eligible to serve and has falsified his eligibility affidavits, then Joe Biden will be the President. Obviously, this is not the will of the people since he has run for President several times unsuccessfully. Please help resolve this situation quickly before the election.
Sincerely
Here is the link to send him an email.
https://bennett.senate.gov/contact/email_casework.html
Below is the email I just sent him. Please, everyone--Democrats, Republicans, Independents--if you are concerned that our constitution is being trampled please let's flood his email with letters of concern and beg him to help do something before its too late.
Sen. Bennett,
On October 6th, an amendment was filed in the case of Berg vs Obama, et al, Civil Action No: 08-cv-04083 in the District Court of Eastern Pennsylvania that adds the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration as a defendent in the case.
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/
The plaintiff, Mr. Berg states that this committee has the responsibility to ensure that Sen. Obama is, in fact, constitutionally eligible to be president of the United States. Evidence is mounting to suggest that Sen. Obama has falsified his affidavits of eligibility that he submitted when running for the Senate as well as for the Presidency. Mr. Berg also has evidence to suggest that Sen. Obama is, in fact, not a natural born citizen of the United States and may, in fact, have lost his citizenship when he was adopted by his Indonesian stepfather.
Since Sen. Obama has consistently refused to produce certified copies of birth records and other documentation of his citizenship, there are millions of American citizens who are concerned that he is attempting to gain the highest office in the land through illegal, fraudulent means. In recent weeks, lawsuits have been filed in other states, including the State of Hawaii, asking courts to mandate that Sen. Obama and the DNC prove that he is eligible by producing the required birth records and evidence of citizenship. We fear we are headed for a constitutional crisis that will result in serious problems for the country.
As the Ranking Member of the Senate Rules Committee, would it not be your responsibility to investigate this situation and ensure that Sen. Obama is, in fact, qualified to be President? We simply cannot wait for this situation to drag through the courts. If Sen. Obama wins the election and it is later determined via the courts that he is not eligible to serve and has falsified his eligibility affidavits, then Joe Biden will be the President. Obviously, this is not the will of the people since he has run for President several times unsuccessfully. Please help resolve this situation quickly before the election.
Sincerely
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written by Prime Customer, October 22, 2008
So Andy Martin is writing on his blog how a network news crew is following him, but he'll leave it up to them to identify themselves. While wondering if Obama has made "the classic mistake". Wow. So much mystery. So much drama.
So little information.
Then there is the advice not to pay taxes if Obama is elected. That will show them. As you are escorted to court and prison.
This is starting to take on an air of nuttiness, with bizarre egos striding across stages, doing dances and pirouettes, leaving nothing but disturbed air behind them.
The issues are pretty simple and fact-based. Let's keep it that way. These are not impenetrable mysteries. Obama has to be pressured to disclose, the media has to be pressured to cover. The conservative media is utterly mystifying; apparently they need to be brought up to speed in a way they can believe. Nuttiness does not help.
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written by Trent, October 22, 2008
Tuesday, October 21, 2008
Because of its status as a government entity, the Federal Election
Commission was given until today to file an answer to the original
complaint filed by attorney Philip Berg on August 21, 2008. This
afternoon, the FEC met that deadline when it filed a motion to dismiss
for lack of subject matter jurisdiction, answering Berg's complaint by
arguing that he "lacks standing to raise the issue of a candidate's
constitutional eligibility."
"Moreover," the motion reads, "even if Berg had standing to raise the
constitutional eligibility issue, the Commission should be dismissed as
a party to this case because it has no oversight over the Constitution’s
Presidential Qualifications Clause."
http://www.americasright.com/
Because of its status as a government entity, the Federal Election
Commission was given until today to file an answer to the original
complaint filed by attorney Philip Berg on August 21, 2008. This
afternoon, the FEC met that deadline when it filed a motion to dismiss
for lack of subject matter jurisdiction, answering Berg's complaint by
arguing that he "lacks standing to raise the issue of a candidate's
constitutional eligibility."
"Moreover," the motion reads, "even if Berg had standing to raise the
constitutional eligibility issue, the Commission should be dismissed as
a party to this case because it has no oversight over the Constitution’s
Presidential Qualifications Clause."
http://www.americasright.com/
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written by Max, October 22, 2008
The "Requests for Admissions" was filed on 9/15/08
The "Request for Dismissal" by the Obama camp filed on 9/26/08
Was that the answer to the "Request for Admissions"?
I don't know, I'm just asking a question. I just don't see a signature from the judge on the Reqeust for Dismissal, which makes me wonder if they actually failed to respond. I don't see a Judges signature on a lot of the documents on this site.
It would suck if Berg was taking us Republicans for a ride, after all he IS a democrat. I'm not donating a dime until I see more actual orders from the judge.
The "Request for Dismissal" by the Obama camp filed on 9/26/08
Was that the answer to the "Request for Admissions"?
I don't know, I'm just asking a question. I just don't see a signature from the judge on the Reqeust for Dismissal, which makes me wonder if they actually failed to respond. I don't see a Judges signature on a lot of the documents on this site.
It would suck if Berg was taking us Republicans for a ride, after all he IS a democrat. I'm not donating a dime until I see more actual orders from the judge.
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written by Iranian Caviar and Champagne For Everyone! , October 22, 2008
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/t...3-obama-37
Consistently, with repeated blocks of about 165,000 voters renewed each week, McCain trounces 0bama in the AOL Straw Poll (ONE vote per ISP) by 10 points.
So, take the other polls with a grain of liberal-college-student-selected-demographic salt, OK???
Consistently, with repeated blocks of about 165,000 voters renewed each week, McCain trounces 0bama in the AOL Straw Poll (ONE vote per ISP) by 10 points.
So, take the other polls with a grain of liberal-college-student-selected-demographic salt, OK???
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written by Obambi.com, October 22, 2008
Thanks Phil for all the hard work
obambi.com
http://obambi.wordpress.com/
obambi.com
http://obambi.wordpress.com/
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written by Art Griffith, October 22, 2008
Has anybody considered the fact that this whole thing has been a set up from the beginning to install Biden into the seat of presidency the only way they could?
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written by Jonesy, October 22, 2008
We Americans who strongly believe and understand our constitution have to wonder and ask. If Obama was to win the election and the Democrats were to gain a filibuster proof majority could they move to change or add an amendment to the constitution allowing a foreign born citizen to be president? It is my belief that they could not because the crime would have been committed before that motion could take place, but just wanted a legal opinion as to if you feel they have some game plan not thought of that is the driving force behind them not answering the admissions. It appears to be true, but does he have a way out?
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written by Mark Osborne, October 22, 2008
Dear Jonesy:
Congress can pass an amendment allowing foreign-born citizens to become president, but it would also require passage by 3/4, or 38, of the US state legislatures before becoming part of the Constitution. There is very little chance of that happening.
Congress can pass an amendment allowing foreign-born citizens to become president, but it would also require passage by 3/4, or 38, of the US state legislatures before becoming part of the Constitution. There is very little chance of that happening.
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written by Kim, October 22, 2008
I dont think its meant to take "republicans" for a ride. This is meant to uphold the Constitution of the United States. And to Uphold what the United States Stands for. This Law Suit wasnt done for the Republicans. I am a democrat, and I want to see our rights , Constittution, and what our Country Stands for Preserved. And I do not Want this man to think He can just walk in and NOT have to provide the information , and then Become our President if he IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. And then turn this country upside down. Berg wanted to ensure that if he wasnt a citizen, that the Democrats , would have a viable canidate if he wasnt. I believe in our Country, and I do NOT BELIEVE THAT SEN OBAMA HAS AMERICANS, BEST INTEREST AT HEART. HE HAS HIS OWN AGENDA. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
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written by pcm, October 22, 2008
Max
The judge doesn't sign motions and requests. The judge only signs orders and his memoranda of law.
Attorneys sign motions and requests and circuit clerks, etc., stamp and file all motions, requests, and orders in a court file.
The judge should have no signature on any of the filings, unless it is the judge's own document.
The judge doesn't sign motions and requests. The judge only signs orders and his memoranda of law.
Attorneys sign motions and requests and circuit clerks, etc., stamp and file all motions, requests, and orders in a court file.
The judge should have no signature on any of the filings, unless it is the judge's own document.
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written by Kim, October 22, 2008
OUTRAGED, If this is such BS, then why hasnt the DNC or Sen Obama just produced the information and moved on then? If they are such stand up people of character, dont you think, to get past this they would have just produced the documentation, Like Sen McCain once had to do, to put this to rest? If they had Vetted Sen Obama correctly, then they should have this on hand, and it should have been at there finger tips to give to the Judge. And this would not be an issue 2 weeks before the Election. I AM A DEMOCRAT, AND I WANT TO KNOW, I want to be an informed voter come Nov 4, 2008. and I am entitled to know who is running this country come Jan 2009. If you want to be so Niave as to believe he would not pull the wool over your eyes, then I believe the BS is on you, not us.
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written by Terry136, October 22, 2008
Believe me, I am all for these efforts, but because I do much work with websites and such, I understand just how misleading some terms can be--hence, my inclusion of the website link I provided. It is a common mistake to read "website statistics" and assume that "hits" means "number of individual visits," but that's simply not the case. Read the link I posted. Every fibre of my being wants Phil to bring down "Barry the Kenyan," but posting such web stats is a form of misrepresentation. Again, read the posted link--you might, then, understand.
First a little background. I recently retired from one of the nation's largest banks where my job was to oversee their online banking sites (yes, sites - plural).
I know all too well what a "hit" is, a unique hit, page views per session, total page views, etc. I also know what terminology the industry uses, and how the IT industry computes various web statistics, what those statistics mean, and how they're used.
It is entirely possible for this site to have 1 to 2 million hits per day (not unique hits, mind you). Without having access to the server traffic logs (which you don't have access to either), it's impossible to get more specific.
I'll be happy to enroll you in a crash course for webstats101.
Your apology is accepted.
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written by Linda Starr in TX, October 22, 2008
Phil Berg is a friend of mine over 10 years now. I brought these questions to Phil about Obama's birth certificate after my own personal research. Of all the lawyers I know, and I know more than enough, I came to Phil because he's what I think a good lawyer should be and far too many aren't any longer. Phil works around the clock to bring justice where there is none. Phil is the one lawyer I know in this entire country who has the courage and guts to stand up to a corrupt system. There are rogue elements wthin the Democratic Party (and GOP too) that have taken over. The rogue elements cares about one thing - winning. These rogue elements have no integrity, or respect for even our own Constitution.
We have to take back control of our parties and our country. If we aren't willing to stop these runaway freight train type elements, pushing unacceptable candidates (and now we know Obama isn't even a legal citizen), then this country is lost. People like Phil, his assistant and myself are putting put country before party.
Far too many people are married to a party system that is every bit as abusive as a batterer is to his wife and/or family. They have become bullies. They beat the grassroots members into accepting what these elements dictate. They have taken over the leadership of the parties and forced their own agendas on the rest of us. Winning is not always good, if we are willing to win by any means: lying, cheating and killing the soul of the party in the process. We have to start weeding out the corruption from within. If we fail to clean up this horrific mess (and Republicans ought to be doing it too), then the parties cease to have a reason to continue and must be replaced.
When people put party before country, then we are in deep trouble because it becomes all about winning and nothing about what it claims to stand for - We the People. We have to draw the line in the sand somewhere along the way. The line in the sand for us means they must not violate the Constitution! There can be no more important reason for stopping Obama than upholding and defending the Constitution. If people can't get behind that, then they are as bad as the corrupt rogue elements of either party. I won't support the DNC with an illegal alien as their forced chocie for the nominee. If Obama is allowed to stay on the ballot we are definitely headed for a Constitutional crisis and with it, a Civil War. This MUST NOT be allowed to happen. No patrioitic American should be willing to sit by and let this happen. It is the sounding of the death knell of our country as we know it and the last obstacle into corrupting us into a North American Union. Pelosi, Dean, Feinstein, and the rest of them who are doing nothing about these crimes ought to be tried for treason. We aren't letting them off the hook. Feinstein, Pelosi and Dean are the primary responsible traitors to our country. And the msm pushing Obama and not reporting this story are JUST AS GUILTY OF TREASON as anyone in either party who are not helping us stop this.
We have to take back control of our parties and our country. If we aren't willing to stop these runaway freight train type elements, pushing unacceptable candidates (and now we know Obama isn't even a legal citizen), then this country is lost. People like Phil, his assistant and myself are putting put country before party.
Far too many people are married to a party system that is every bit as abusive as a batterer is to his wife and/or family. They have become bullies. They beat the grassroots members into accepting what these elements dictate. They have taken over the leadership of the parties and forced their own agendas on the rest of us. Winning is not always good, if we are willing to win by any means: lying, cheating and killing the soul of the party in the process. We have to start weeding out the corruption from within. If we fail to clean up this horrific mess (and Republicans ought to be doing it too), then the parties cease to have a reason to continue and must be replaced.
When people put party before country, then we are in deep trouble because it becomes all about winning and nothing about what it claims to stand for - We the People. We have to draw the line in the sand somewhere along the way. The line in the sand for us means they must not violate the Constitution! There can be no more important reason for stopping Obama than upholding and defending the Constitution. If people can't get behind that, then they are as bad as the corrupt rogue elements of either party. I won't support the DNC with an illegal alien as their forced chocie for the nominee. If Obama is allowed to stay on the ballot we are definitely headed for a Constitutional crisis and with it, a Civil War. This MUST NOT be allowed to happen. No patrioitic American should be willing to sit by and let this happen. It is the sounding of the death knell of our country as we know it and the last obstacle into corrupting us into a North American Union. Pelosi, Dean, Feinstein, and the rest of them who are doing nothing about these crimes ought to be tried for treason. We aren't letting them off the hook. Feinstein, Pelosi and Dean are the primary responsible traitors to our country. And the msm pushing Obama and not reporting this story are JUST AS GUILTY OF TREASON as anyone in either party who are not helping us stop this.
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written by JohnR, October 22, 2008
Why is nobody investigating this, seriously wtf is going on with this country. The man can't even produce a birth certificate, which I thought being BORN in this country was a requirement to run for President. ie why Arnold is never able to run for President, because he was born in Austra. So if Obama was born, hmmm not in the USA, wtf is he doing running for President? Serious question.
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written by Terry136, October 22, 2008
We Americans who strongly believe and understand our constitution have to wonder and ask. If Obama was to win the election and the Democrats were to gain a filibuster proof majority could they move to change or add an amendment to the constitution allowing a foreign born citizen to be president? It is my belief that they could not because the crime would have been committed before that motion could take place, but just wanted a legal opinion as to if you feel they have some game plan not thought of that is the driving force behind them not answering the admissions. It appears to be true, but does he have a way out?
The only way to change the Constitution is for congress to come up with the amendment. Then it has to be ratified by 3/4 of the states within 7 years from the date of the submission. The Democrats can't change it on their own.
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written by MARGUERITE, October 22, 2008
http://colony14.net/id41.html HTTP://COLONY14.NET/ID41.HTML OBAMA'S LIFE 20 PAGES
CK ALSO WWW.WND.COM WORLD NET DAILY GREAT INFO PASS LINKS ON ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!
CK ALSO WWW.WND.COM WORLD NET DAILY GREAT INFO PASS LINKS ON ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!
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written by Eastchester, October 22, 2008
Than you Marie, for a great suggestion! I just sent my own email to Senator Bennett. Since he is ranking Republican on the Senate Rules Committee, the if the Republicans controlled the Senate (which they could if Joe Leiberman switched and voted to elect a Republican majority leader), he would be Chairman, and a respondent in Berg v. Obama. I urged him to have the Rules Committee subpoena the documents itself. Otherwise he is himself part of Obama's stonewalling and cover-up.
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written by Jonesy, October 22, 2008
To all that responded with 3/4 majority of states, thank you I forgot that law, that helps put a mind at ease. Does anyone know what options they have now that they have not answered the admissions? Let's say they get the judge(s) in their pocket like the MSM, is there some point where Obama absolutely has to produce these documents in order for the lawsuit to be dismissed?
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written by MARGUERITE, October 22, 2008
LINKS TYPE IN THIS WAY FOR OBAMA
htt://colony14.net/id41.html OBAMA'S LIFE REVEALED
www.wnd.com WORLD NET DAILY
htt://colony14.net/id41.html OBAMA'S LIFE REVEALED
www.wnd.com WORLD NET DAILY
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written by Hot2Trot, October 22, 2008
JohnR
Yes, this truly is an outrage. NO DOUBT about that.
As for WHY Obama is running? For the same reason that any rogue, despot, self serving, narcissistic, thug, tyrant, dictator would try to do so. It's an attempt to obtain power for personal gain & self aggrandizement. I'm in agreement with Dr. Sam Vaknin in his assessment that Obama is a narcissist & possibly has NPD (narcissistic personality disorder). If you're interested in reading up on it for more information, check out these 2 articles.
http://www.globalpolitician.co...-elections
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/i...geId=76552
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written by Patriot, October 22, 2008
Polls at http://forums.wnd.com/index.ph...pageId=204 show as little as 2 percent of the voters believe Obama is a natural born citizen!
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written by Patriot, October 22, 2008
Think that racisim isn't going rampant with black people voting for Obama based only on race, then listen to this http://www.bpmdeejays.com/uplo...100108.mp3
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written by MARGUERITE, October 22, 2008
www.wnd.com ck out info on CORSI 'S TRIP TO KENYA . GOT MORE INFO CK ADS PASS ON!!!!
OBAMA AND ODINGA BIG TIES.OBAMA FUNNELED $$$$$$$ TO ODINGA A COMMUNIST AND MUSLIM
ODINGA'S MONTRA WAS CHANGE!!!!! HE LOST BUT
FOLLOWERS HAD CHURCHES BURNES AND SOME WITH WOMEN AND CHILDREN INSIDE!!!
OBAMA CAMPAIGNED WITH ODINGA NEED TO TELL ALL ABOUT THIS CONNECTION
www.wnd.com
OBAMA AND ODINGA BIG TIES.OBAMA FUNNELED $$$$$$$ TO ODINGA A COMMUNIST AND MUSLIM
ODINGA'S MONTRA WAS CHANGE!!!!! HE LOST BUT
FOLLOWERS HAD CHURCHES BURNES AND SOME WITH WOMEN AND CHILDREN INSIDE!!!
OBAMA CAMPAIGNED WITH ODINGA NEED TO TELL ALL ABOUT THIS CONNECTION
www.wnd.com
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written by justthefactsma'am, October 22, 2008
Good morning everyone, I have a question this morning: If the Messiahobama doesn't proove his birthplace, or his nationality, and has to go away, what about his 150 Million he's massed in campaign contributions? Usually the left over funds after an election are given to the party and it gets passed on to the next guy, but I am curious, because he wants to spread the wealth, if he'll want to spread that 150 million our way? They could go to our tax rolls, look at hard working American Citizens who paid taxes and do a lotto draw. If they pulled 150 names, that would instantly make 150 Americans Millionaires. He could spread that wealth.
Seriously, yesterday I posted that I emailed our local news, they did mention it, but not at length, the newsanchor's comment was, "we've recieved several emails today from folks online enlightening us about a lawsuit filed agains Barack Obama, we are investigating this and will have more on our news at noon." 20 +/- people I know emailed this local news station to inquire and we all forwarded the link here for them to read that press release for themselves. Also, some people called the news station inquiring if they knew anything. I believe that if enough people inquire about thisl, eventually they have to address this. I can't wait for the floor to drop out from under "the One"
Seriously, yesterday I posted that I emailed our local news, they did mention it, but not at length, the newsanchor's comment was, "we've recieved several emails today from folks online enlightening us about a lawsuit filed agains Barack Obama, we are investigating this and will have more on our news at noon." 20 +/- people I know emailed this local news station to inquire and we all forwarded the link here for them to read that press release for themselves. Also, some people called the news station inquiring if they knew anything. I believe that if enough people inquire about thisl, eventually they have to address this. I can't wait for the floor to drop out from under "the One"
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written by Philadelphia Roof Doctor, October 22, 2008
Obama 'admits' Kenyan birth?
Campaign doesn't respond to claims in lawsuit over birth certificate
Posted: October 21, 2008
9:22 pm Eastern
By Drew Zahn
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
Pennsylvania Democrat Philip J. Berg, who filed a lawsuit demanding Sen. Barack Obama present proof of his American citizenship, now says that by failing to respond Obama has legally "admitted" to the lawsuit's accusations, including the charge that the Democratic candidate was born in Mombosa, Kenya.
As WND reported, Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court in August, alleging that Obama is not a natural-born citizen and is thus ineligible to serve as president of the United States. Though Obama has posted an image of a Hawaii birth certificate online, Berg demands that the court verify the original document, which the Obama campaign has not provided.
Now Berg cites Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which states that unless the accused party provides written answer or objection to charges within 30 days, the accused legally admits the matter.
Article continues:
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written by Linda Starr in TX, October 22, 2008
Andy Martin has nothing to do with this suit. He is doing his own thing. He likes the drama, we like the law. He is selling books, we are not selling anything. We are saving the Constitution and the country along with it.
I think a lot of doubting Thomas' are in for some surprises. When you file a motion in court, there are guidelines for when you MUST answer or you default on the motion/s. Obama and the DNC have defaulted on several deadlines. For example they only had so many days to file an objection to the Motion for Epedited Discovery and the Admissions. Those deadlines passed without any response. You don't get to pick and choose what parts of a suit to object to. I'm not a lawyer, but even I know that much and more.
I think a lot of doubting Thomas' are in for some surprises. When you file a motion in court, there are guidelines for when you MUST answer or you default on the motion/s. Obama and the DNC have defaulted on several deadlines. For example they only had so many days to file an objection to the Motion for Epedited Discovery and the Admissions. Those deadlines passed without any response. You don't get to pick and choose what parts of a suit to object to. I'm not a lawyer, but even I know that much and more.
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written by Linda Starr in TX, October 22, 2008
Phil Berg and his Assistant have made it very clear the FEC had until Oct 21st to answer. You act like there isn't a ton of information plus questions and answers on this website. I strongly suggest you people who have questions go back to the original first page on Aug 22 when this website went up. There are many posts with answers to the questions throughout this site and the court documents.
We sure seem to be attracting a lot of Obama trolls lately. HA! HA! That just tells me they are worried because common sense says they KNOW he isn't a citizen. He'd have produced the documents otherwise. And the more they post their propaganda and spew their hatred, the more I am convinced they are too ignorant to see the truth. They are exhibiting the classic living embodiment of cult behaviors.
We sure seem to be attracting a lot of Obama trolls lately. HA! HA! That just tells me they are worried because common sense says they KNOW he isn't a citizen. He'd have produced the documents otherwise. And the more they post their propaganda and spew their hatred, the more I am convinced they are too ignorant to see the truth. They are exhibiting the classic living embodiment of cult behaviors.
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written by Iranian Caviar and Champagne For Everyone!, October 22, 2008
Full length (1983) video of undercover FBI informant telling
of Weatherman plans to exterminate 25 million Americans
in re-education camps. Clip starts at the 8:00 minute mark
(I suggest watching all 6 bone-chilling parts!):
www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6jqvgjRle8&feature;=related
Far from being washed-up terrorists, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn
(and fellow travelers) will be riding on Barack Hussein Obama's
coattails, right into the White House!
Here's an excerpted clip from the same video documentary:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJn5b8_weUY
A little background on the FBI informant:
“Larry Grathwohl, an undercover FBI agent who infiltrated Weatherman, later testified that Ayers had identified Bernadine Dohrn as the person who bombed a San Francisco police station in February 1970, killing one officer and injuring two others. The agent also said that Ayers had constructed a bomb made from 13 sticks of dynamite that the group placed in a Detroit police officers’ association building. The agent contacted the police, who cleared the area, but the bomb failed to explode. Ayers’ murderous intent was clear enough, however. According to the FBI agent, ‘Bill said that we should plan our bombing to coincide with the time when there would be the most people in those buildings.’”
www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/obamas_foul_weather_friends.html
HOW DO WE GET THIS OUT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN TIME FOR THE ELECTION?!?!?! I THINK WE SHOULD PLASTER RUSH LIMBAUGH, SEAN HANNITY, DRUDGE, ETC, UNTIL SOMEONE BIG COVERS THIS!!!
of Weatherman plans to exterminate 25 million Americans
in re-education camps. Clip starts at the 8:00 minute mark
(I suggest watching all 6 bone-chilling parts!):
www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6jqvgjRle8&feature;=related
Far from being washed-up terrorists, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn
(and fellow travelers) will be riding on Barack Hussein Obama's
coattails, right into the White House!
Here's an excerpted clip from the same video documentary:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJn5b8_weUY
A little background on the FBI informant:
“Larry Grathwohl, an undercover FBI agent who infiltrated Weatherman, later testified that Ayers had identified Bernadine Dohrn as the person who bombed a San Francisco police station in February 1970, killing one officer and injuring two others. The agent also said that Ayers had constructed a bomb made from 13 sticks of dynamite that the group placed in a Detroit police officers’ association building. The agent contacted the police, who cleared the area, but the bomb failed to explode. Ayers’ murderous intent was clear enough, however. According to the FBI agent, ‘Bill said that we should plan our bombing to coincide with the time when there would be the most people in those buildings.’”
www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/obamas_foul_weather_friends.html
HOW DO WE GET THIS OUT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN TIME FOR THE ELECTION?!?!?! I THINK WE SHOULD PLASTER RUSH LIMBAUGH, SEAN HANNITY, DRUDGE, ETC, UNTIL SOMEONE BIG COVERS THIS!!!
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written by Iranian Caviar and Champagne For Everyone!, October 22, 2008
http://www.theobamafile.com/_e...lAyers.htm
OBAMA AND AYERS HAVE BEEN CLOSE FOR 27 YEARS
Today we find out they worked not only on Woods, Young, Annenberg...
but here they worked on the same floor of a small buildilng together for three years
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm
AYERS IS A CERTIFIED EVIL WHACK JOB
OBAMA COULD PUT AYERS IN HIS EXECUTIVE BRANCH!
OBAMA AND AYERS HAVE BEEN CLOSE FOR 27 YEARS
Today we find out they worked not only on Woods, Young, Annenberg...
but here they worked on the same floor of a small buildilng together for three years
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm
AYERS IS A CERTIFIED EVIL WHACK JOB
OBAMA COULD PUT AYERS IN HIS EXECUTIVE BRANCH!
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written by Ben in TX, October 22, 2008
From the API site:
http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/23/information-to-the-public-on-the-michelle-obama-tapes/
INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC ON THE MICHELLE OBAMA TAPES
Posted by africanpress on October 23, 2008
“Parties involved - LAW OFFICES OF PHILIP J. BERG (USA)
and African Press International - API (Norway) have agreed on the wording of the notice below now being made public”
To whom it may concern
CONFIRMATION OF ATTORNEY/CLIENT RELATIONSHIP
This is to inform members of the public that there is Attorney/Client relationship between:
LAW OFFICES OF PHILIP J. BERG
555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12,
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531
Office: (610) 825-3134
Fax: (610) 662-3005
Att: Phil J. Berg or Lisa Liberi
email: \n This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it '> This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
email: \n This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it '> This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
and
AFRICAN PRESS INTERNATIONAL - API, Oslo - Norway
Subject matter: The Michelle Obama tapes.
In case of legal questions pertaining to the above subject, members of the public are asked to contact the Law Offices directly.
Any other matters of no legal character may be directed to API’s Chief
Editor Korir by email: \n This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it '> This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it or +4793299739.
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http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/23/information-to-the-public-on-the-michelle-obama-tapes/
INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC ON THE MICHELLE OBAMA TAPES
Posted by africanpress on October 23, 2008
“Parties involved - LAW OFFICES OF PHILIP J. BERG (USA)
and African Press International - API (Norway) have agreed on the wording of the notice below now being made public”
To whom it may concern
CONFIRMATION OF ATTORNEY/CLIENT RELATIONSHIP
This is to inform members of the public that there is Attorney/Client relationship between:
LAW OFFICES OF PHILIP J. BERG
555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12,
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531
Office: (610) 825-3134
Fax: (610) 662-3005
Att: Phil J. Berg or Lisa Liberi
email: \n This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it '> This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
email: \n This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it '> This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
and
AFRICAN PRESS INTERNATIONAL - API, Oslo - Norway
Subject matter: The Michelle Obama tapes.
In case of legal questions pertaining to the above subject, members of the public are asked to contact the Law Offices directly.
Any other matters of no legal character may be directed to API’s Chief
Editor Korir by email: \n This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it '> This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it or +4793299739.
This entry was posted on October 23, 2008 at 1:18 am and is filed under AA > News and News analysis. . You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. Responses are currently closed, but you can trackback from your own site.
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written by Linda Starr in TX, October 22, 2008
The one place I have access to that the visitng public does not is the stats pages. I am eporting the actual numbers from the internal counter. The public counter could not keep up with the traffic and keep freezing up, so the Webmaster removed it.
Last week, Phil was told by someone at Google that this site is ranked #25 in the world! And that is just the hits through Google. Our #1 referrer is a direct search for obamacrimes.com. I can see how many US military and US gov domains are visiting. The top 100 are shown.
Just a few of the top referrals rank as follows: #2 Google, #4 Yahoo, #6 AOL, #8 YouTube.
You might want to reconsider your opinion about the number of hits to this website. I have no reason to make this up.
Last week, Phil was told by someone at Google that this site is ranked #25 in the world! And that is just the hits through Google. Our #1 referrer is a direct search for obamacrimes.com. I can see how many US military and US gov domains are visiting. The top 100 are shown.
Just a few of the top referrals rank as follows: #2 Google, #4 Yahoo, #6 AOL, #8 YouTube.
You might want to reconsider your opinion about the number of hits to this website. I have no reason to make this up.
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written by Iranian Caviar and Champagne For Everyone!, October 22, 2008
Does the fact that Berg has now taken on the API mean he's heard the tapes?
Because he said that was a PRECONDITION for so doing?
?????!!!!!
Because he said that was a PRECONDITION for so doing?
?????!!!!!
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written by Steve, October 22, 2008
Linda Star in Tx,
I am one of those doubting Thomas's.... How can you say we are all in for some surprises if the evil MSM doesn't say anything bad at all as to asure the False Messiah wins the election!!.. You probably dont believe it, but to me this whole thing seems hopeless since NOTHING bad is ever said about Obooma...Its just more BS this morning..Now there all saying Palin had Alaska pay for her kids travel...More hypnosis, more mind games to make her and McCain look like the devil and Obooma the savior..
I jsut feel were living in a Twilight Zone where the MSM votes in the candidate, not the people...We get stonewalled cause there is more corruption then ever on both sides of the aisle(lately its more so with the DNC). We dont have a country anymore and it pains me to think the world will end in 2011, cause its quite possible....
Until the Supreme Court votes 5-4 to remove Obama from the ticket, then I'm not holding my breath on this!!!!
Like I said before I will donate more money to Phil, once I know we can get somewhere with this!!
I have never been so f*cken angry and upset about an election in my life!!
I am one of those doubting Thomas's.... How can you say we are all in for some surprises if the evil MSM doesn't say anything bad at all as to asure the False Messiah wins the election!!.. You probably dont believe it, but to me this whole thing seems hopeless since NOTHING bad is ever said about Obooma...Its just more BS this morning..Now there all saying Palin had Alaska pay for her kids travel...More hypnosis, more mind games to make her and McCain look like the devil and Obooma the savior..
I jsut feel were living in a Twilight Zone where the MSM votes in the candidate, not the people...We get stonewalled cause there is more corruption then ever on both sides of the aisle(lately its more so with the DNC). We dont have a country anymore and it pains me to think the world will end in 2011, cause its quite possible....
Until the Supreme Court votes 5-4 to remove Obama from the ticket, then I'm not holding my breath on this!!!!
Like I said before I will donate more money to Phil, once I know we can get somewhere with this!!
I have never been so f*cken angry and upset about an election in my life!!
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written by OhReally, October 22, 2008
This is poll results I took on the Drudge this a.m.
$700 Billion Bailout...
Good for America?
Here are the results!
The Total Number of people who voted in this poll: 3756
1) Who is to blame for America’s current economic crisis?
77% voted: Democrats and US Congress
4% voted: The Bush Administration
3% voted: Wall Street
13% voted: Banks and sub-prime lenders
2% voted: Real estate and mortgage professionals
0% voted: Investors
2% voted: Home buyers
2) Do you agree a government bailout was the answer to America’s financial crisis?
8% voted: Yes
78% voted: No
14% voted: Undecided
3) Do you believe the American taxpayers should have to foot the bill for our financial systems mistakes?
10% voted: Yes, we have to or we’ll end up in a prolonged recession or worse a depression.
68% voted: No, America is too far in debt already.
22% voted: Absolutely not, the American people should never be responsible for bailing out the private sector.
0% voted: Undecided
4) Do you believe the government bailout will ultimately rescue our countries financial system?
7% voted: Yes
21% voted: No
68% voted: Undecided
5) Which candidate is better suited to handle the countries future economic policy?
79% voted: John McCain
4% voted: Barack Obama
17% voted: Neither
6) Which candidate will you be voting for in November?
89% voted: John McCain (Republican)
4% voted: Barack Obama (Democrat)
2% voted: Bob Barr (Libertarian)
0% voted: Ralph Nader (Independent)
2% voted: Chuck Baldwin (Constitution Party)
3% voted: None of the Above
Thank you for your participation.
$700 Billion Bailout...
Good for America?
Here are the results!
The Total Number of people who voted in this poll: 3756
1) Who is to blame for America’s current economic crisis?
77% voted: Democrats and US Congress
4% voted: The Bush Administration
3% voted: Wall Street
13% voted: Banks and sub-prime lenders
2% voted: Real estate and mortgage professionals
0% voted: Investors
2% voted: Home buyers
2) Do you agree a government bailout was the answer to America’s financial crisis?
8% voted: Yes
78% voted: No
14% voted: Undecided
3) Do you believe the American taxpayers should have to foot the bill for our financial systems mistakes?
10% voted: Yes, we have to or we’ll end up in a prolonged recession or worse a depression.
68% voted: No, America is too far in debt already.
22% voted: Absolutely not, the American people should never be responsible for bailing out the private sector.
0% voted: Undecided
4) Do you believe the government bailout will ultimately rescue our countries financial system?
7% voted: Yes
21% voted: No
68% voted: Undecided
5) Which candidate is better suited to handle the countries future economic policy?
79% voted: John McCain
4% voted: Barack Obama
17% voted: Neither
6) Which candidate will you be voting for in November?
89% voted: John McCain (Republican)
4% voted: Barack Obama (Democrat)
2% voted: Bob Barr (Libertarian)
0% voted: Ralph Nader (Independent)
2% voted: Chuck Baldwin (Constitution Party)
3% voted: None of the Above
Thank you for your participation.
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written by justthefactsma'am, October 22, 2008
Kudos to you Linda!! I agree with you 100%. There are those out there using tidbits to enhance their books and make their money off of the story of the day. But following the law is following the law. If Obama is running under false pretenses, and portraying himself to be something/someone he is not, then we, the American Citizens are entitled to protection from him under the Constitution. For those who are saying "it's a hoax" , let me ask you this, have you ever had to go to court for anything? Have you ever been through a divorce? Then you would know full well of rescheduling, conflicts in schedules, demands for discovery, the judge's calendar, etc. Sometimes it takes time, and I'd rather it take a bit of time, for this judge to be able to review the evidence, and do things right the first time, or lest Mr. Berg would have to start from square one due to a technicality. I think enough of the legitimate voting public is well enough informed to know how they are going to vote. If you turn off the news, and talk to your friends, family, and neighbors, you would see that 99% are not voting for Obama anyway, no one trusts him and the majority don't feel he'd have the Country's best interest at heart.
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written by Jerry Hall, October 22, 2008
What a bombshell!! I pray to GOD that this lawsuit wins and destroys the facade perpetuated by the socialist, marxist fascist liberals controlling our congress. Good luck and Godspeed, Jerry Hall
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written by TruePatriot4USA, October 22, 2008
Fraud, fraud, fraud. Where are the tapes?
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written by Wild Bill, October 22, 2008
We will be filing in Richmond Circuit Court in Virginia later today. We are doing this the right way - no B.S. about "admissions" based on unanswered discovery served before a Rule 26 conference and while a protective order is pending. Based on some of the things on this website, we don't believe Mr. Berg is diligently pursuing his case. We don't know if he is naive, incompetent, or acting with bad faith, but we know his statements are inaccurate. But we know all of you are faithful, and we hate to see you put your faith in an attorney who either doen't know what he is doing, or is intentionally being misleading. While we won't coordinate with him, we will keep you updated. Virginia is the birthplace of American democracy and we are proud to do our part to protect the union from the greatest threat it has ever seen.
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written by MAXWELL, October 22, 2008
Linda just how many hits are from Military and Gov domains?
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written by Iranian Caviar and Champagne For Everyone!, October 22, 2008
Wild Bill: So, catch me up here...are you and youre team a Berg v.2? New and Improved?
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written by Jerry Hall, October 22, 2008
I don't need to see any tape Mr truepatriot4usa!!! The fact that obama has not responded to the lawsuit and this "sick granny" business is all I need to know to realize that something has scared him and he knows he is about to be outed by this great american!!! The DNC is in a panic and so is he, they are on the ground trying to cover this up but like the bible says, let not your hearts be troubled the truth shall always shine to light a narrow path for the righteous! Go back to the middle east and take him and your checkered headtowels with ya!! WE are fighting two wars to end the tyranny you espouse.
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written by Warland Griffith III, October 22, 2008
Is it really that easy to ignore our laws and take the office of the presidency of the U.S.A.? If so, then I guess that Hugo Chavez, Vladamir Putin or "Ach We've Been Had" of Iran can claim to have been born in the U.S., get on the ticket with the DNC and become our president. Presto - we're under foreign rule without a shot being fired, and in the meantime we can argue about it in court while we wait for a ruling. Surely there must be a way to remove this mad man from taking over now before it's too late. Is there any way that millions of Americans can file a petition of some sort that would prevent this imposter from taking over our country until such time as all these allegations can be proven in a court of law? I certainly hope so, and ask that you respond to all of us to tell us exactly what the procedure would be and what steps we must take now. Assuming there is not enough time to do that before the elections on Nov. 4th, the next best thing is to immediatedly put his presidency on hold (assuming he wins the elections) and let Biden run the country until such time that the court reaches a decision. On the other hand, if Obama is removed, Biden would probably just appoint him as his vice president or put him in some other position of power over us, perhaps even put him on the Supreme court. The problem is truly systemic, but we must nevertheless fight for the future of our childeren and our grandchildren.
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written by joey American, October 22, 2008
It looks like the court is stalling and then will dismiss this right before the election. Its time people from different states to file in state court to have Obama removed from the ballot if he does not show his proof of citizenship. Its sad to learn that someone can use the ploy of saying a citizen has no standing in a matter like this. My God if any American cannot require a candidate to prove his qualifications per the constitution then this givernment is not "Of the People nor For the People. Its a two party monopoly that should come under the anti-tust laws. Just shows how the constitution has been hijacked once more.
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written by Julie, October 22, 2008
TO WILD BILL
I would like to know how YOU would be considered a person that has established the needed “jurisdiction-status” to legally file a case like this.
Since the Obama campain has filed a "motion to dismiss" BASED on the theory the Mr. Berg does not have the legal "status" or jurisdiction to file the complaint against Obama or the DNC or the Elections Board.
I would like to know how YOU would be considered a person that has established the needed “jurisdiction-status” to legally file a case like this.
Since the Obama campain has filed a "motion to dismiss" BASED on the theory the Mr. Berg does not have the legal "status" or jurisdiction to file the complaint against Obama or the DNC or the Elections Board.
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written by Frank Baumann, October 22, 2008
I never heard this before, is this real?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvVEzb0edPE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvVEzb0edPE
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written by MARGUERITE, October 22, 2008
e- mail BERGS CASE AND OTHER FRAUD OR VOTER FRAUD ASAP
This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
call JAY SECULO AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE 1-202-507-7331
GET JAY AND PHIL TOGETHER
This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
call JAY SECULO AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE 1-202-507-7331
GET JAY AND PHIL TOGETHER
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written by major, October 22, 2008
I'm not a lawyer but I am an American citizen who served my country by wearing
the uniform of the US Army for more than 20 yrs (retired 2003). My son is
currently enrolled in an ROTC program. I was willing to give my life for this
country defending and upholding the liberties provided us through the US
Constitution and B of R.
I'm getting increasingly impatient with this matter and if a resolution (proof
of natural born citizenship) is not met soon; I will research how someone like
myself can demand that the person that "may" be our next president, and by
virtue of that position, commander in chief of my son, is eligible to hold that
office.
This is SERIOUS stuff and I'm not playing around - Ayers, Wright, ACORN, drugs,
etc... is one thing but if someone (B. Hussein Obama) gets elected w/o being
eligible, I need to know how I go about demanding through whatever means (legal
channels, letter(s), contact my congressional rep, etc...) that the person that
won the presidential election is eligible to be there - can anyone pls advise?
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Maj Santo L. Tricarico
USA-Ret
the uniform of the US Army for more than 20 yrs (retired 2003). My son is
currently enrolled in an ROTC program. I was willing to give my life for this
country defending and upholding the liberties provided us through the US
Constitution and B of R.
I'm getting increasingly impatient with this matter and if a resolution (proof
of natural born citizenship) is not met soon; I will research how someone like
myself can demand that the person that "may" be our next president, and by
virtue of that position, commander in chief of my son, is eligible to hold that
office.
This is SERIOUS stuff and I'm not playing around - Ayers, Wright, ACORN, drugs,
etc... is one thing but if someone (B. Hussein Obama) gets elected w/o being
eligible, I need to know how I go about demanding through whatever means (legal
channels, letter(s), contact my congressional rep, etc...) that the person that
won the presidential election is eligible to be there - can anyone pls advise?
--
Maj Santo L. Tricarico
USA-Ret
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written by Iranian Caviar and Champagne For Everyone!, October 22, 2008
God Bless You Major T: HOW COULD ANY SOLDIER FOLLOW THE CIC OBAMA WHEN HE'S NOT EVEN A US CITIZEN AND ALL HE HAS IN MIND IS NEFARIOUS PLANS FOR AMERICA? I notice he cannot even look military personnel in the eyes!
and frank, see larrysinclair.org
and frank, see larrysinclair.org
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written by Full Nelson, October 22, 2008
With the new batch of lawsuits filed in various states and the justice system running as slow as molasses, will any of them be heard and ruled upon before Nov 4?
Another concern I have is that there are rumors that Obama will pay someone off to get a birth certificate when he leaves for Hawaii. Is there any way to monitor this?
Another concern I have is that there are rumors that Obama will pay someone off to get a birth certificate when he leaves for Hawaii. Is there any way to monitor this?
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written by Mr. Big, October 22, 2008
I just sent the following letter to the Editor at FactCheck.org:
Hi,
I was under the initial impression that the Obama COLB posted on your site was official and legitimate until I noticed from the high resolution picture of the the embossed seal that it is completely illegible. On the web, I have seen .jpg's of other embossed seals on Hawaiian COLB's that are clearly readable. Check out this video for a detailed explanation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scjF5oB-JXk How do you defend or explain the embossed seal on your document? From the pictures posted, your document appears to be a clever forgery. To manitain your neutrality and un-biased integrity, I strongly suggest that you address this topic of the unreadable embossed seal immediately.
Regards,
Hi,
I was under the initial impression that the Obama COLB posted on your site was official and legitimate until I noticed from the high resolution picture of the the embossed seal that it is completely illegible. On the web, I have seen .jpg's of other embossed seals on Hawaiian COLB's that are clearly readable. Check out this video for a detailed explanation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scjF5oB-JXk How do you defend or explain the embossed seal on your document? From the pictures posted, your document appears to be a clever forgery. To manitain your neutrality and un-biased integrity, I strongly suggest that you address this topic of the unreadable embossed seal immediately.
Regards,
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written by Neil Johnson, October 22, 2008
Amendment XX, Section 3 says the following:
"If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified."
I hope that this is resolved before Congress has to determine whether or not Obama is qualified. Can we rely on a Congress that most likely will have an increased Democrat majority in both houses to reach a decision consistent with the Constitution and the facts?
"If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified."
I hope that this is resolved before Congress has to determine whether or not Obama is qualified. Can we rely on a Congress that most likely will have an increased Democrat majority in both houses to reach a decision consistent with the Constitution and the facts?
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written by Ceece, October 22, 2008
If this press release about Obama & DNC are true, why isn't it on the news? I would think it would be all over the place! I am not an Obama fan but I don't want to pass on something that isn't legit either
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written by Jake, October 22, 2008
I just emailed Senator Bennett (R) in Utah! Please send emails to him at this page:
http://www.senate.gov/~bennett/contact/emailmain.html
He needs to be informed on this impending constitutional CRISIS! Let him know that as Americans we will not stand for these Obama injustices, and blatant disregard for the document our founding fathers worked so hard to complete!
http://www.senate.gov/~bennett/contact/emailmain.html
He needs to be informed on this impending constitutional CRISIS! Let him know that as Americans we will not stand for these Obama injustices, and blatant disregard for the document our founding fathers worked so hard to complete!
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written by Legal precedent, October 22, 2008
Another McCain POTUS eligibility case in NH; note that "while McCain and the Republican Party argue that Hollander’s claims are bogus, but they have sought to have his case thrown out mainly on technical grounds"
Hmm, sound familiar?
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080522/NEWS08/894678839/-1/news08
Hmm, sound familiar?
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080522/NEWS08/894678839/-1/news08
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written by Wild Bill, October 22, 2008
We are in the final preparation stages for today's lawsuit. We are filing suit against the State Board of Elections. The Board is required by law to Qualify or disqualify candidates for nomination or election to federal, statewide, General Assembly, and shared constitutional offices based on verification of petitions and other required filings. We will seek a writ of mandamus requiring the Board of Elections to verify the petitions filed by Obama's electors (technically you vote for a slate of electors, not the actual candidates). We will also seek an emergency hearing on the matter for before the election date. We believe the writ of mandamus route avoids the standing problem inherent in Mr. Berg's petition.
After we file we will immediately serve the Board of Elections and will then release information to the press.
After we file we will immediately serve the Board of Elections and will then release information to the press.
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written by gotcitizenship, October 22, 2008
Your points have been discussed ad nauseam on this site and around the internet. No one disagrees including Berg that standing and jurisdiction is not an issue here. Read the Bergs filings he addresses the issue at length.The question is does the federal court have an obligation to intervene if the parties that can act (the DNC and the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration) can't or won't remedy the situation on their own. Berg is trying to demonstrate that in fact the injury is great enough to justify the federal courts be involved and to give him standing. That is the primary crux of the case. If you did some research beyond a couple of googles you might not have wasted our time.
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written by Julie, October 22, 2008
Thank you for answering my question. I hope to hear something ( anything!) about this in the news.
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written by Frank Baumann, October 22, 2008
People stop drinking the KOOL AID!
Berg will definitely have standing as evidence by the fact that Obama has been a sitting Senator for over two years and the DNC and the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration has failed to act in that instance. All he evidence points to the fact that Obama is not even a legal resident. He was never qualified to be a US Senator. The court is the only remedy.
Berg will definitely have standing as evidence by the fact that Obama has been a sitting Senator for over two years and the DNC and the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration has failed to act in that instance. All he evidence points to the fact that Obama is not even a legal resident. He was never qualified to be a US Senator. The court is the only remedy.
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written by Ted Park, October 22, 2008
1. The congress cannot pass a law or resolution to make this all go away. It would be unconstitutional and would immediately and forcefully struck down by SCOTUS
2. The "will of the people" or "people have spoken" arguments have no legs. The express purpose/concept of the Bll of Rights is to PREVENT the tyranny of the majority. Further more, if there is a racist outcry, we just need to remind folks that a Lynching is the very epitome of unbridled majority rule.
2. The "will of the people" or "people have spoken" arguments have no legs. The express purpose/concept of the Bll of Rights is to PREVENT the tyranny of the majority. Further more, if there is a racist outcry, we just need to remind folks that a Lynching is the very epitome of unbridled majority rule.
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written by w00sh, October 22, 2008
As of 11:00 this morning, Philip Berg had done three radio interviews, the last of which was a half-hour spot on G. Gordon Liddy's popular program. Later today, he will be the subject of a piece by a CBS affiliate in Anchorage, AK.
I spoke with Berg immediately after his Liddy spot, and he mentioned two things of note. First, he plans to file a motion for summary judgment with the court today. Second, he has been in contact with African Press International and, as we spoke, his staff was working with the API staff on the electronic transfer of the alleged Michelle Obama tape.
On the motion for summary judgment, I will bring details here as soon as I know anything further. Berg had hoped to file early this morning, as he did for yesterday's motions, but certain circumstances prevented it.
I spoke with Berg immediately after his Liddy spot, and he mentioned two things of note. First, he plans to file a motion for summary judgment with the court today. Second, he has been in contact with African Press International and, as we spoke, his staff was working with the API staff on the electronic transfer of the alleged Michelle Obama tape.
On the motion for summary judgment, I will bring details here as soon as I know anything further. Berg had hoped to file early this morning, as he did for yesterday's motions, but certain circumstances prevented it.
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written by Dr. bobbi, October 22, 2008
Dear "Obama's mom'
Stanley's Dad was in WWII, but that was it. later they owned a furniture store they weren't part of the military. They went to Wa because there was a school that they wanted Stanley to go to a better school. Turns out that school was a Communist school and actually there is a statue of Lenin inthe town square there. Mercer island
Stanley's Dad was in WWII, but that was it. later they owned a furniture store they weren't part of the military. They went to Wa because there was a school that they wanted Stanley to go to a better school. Turns out that school was a Communist school and actually there is a statue of Lenin inthe town square there. Mercer island
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written by Dave Racer, October 22, 2008
Are you aware of anyone who may have checked out Obama's story about his mother's death? He claims she died of cancer as a result of insurance companies refusing to pay for her care. Since I am well-aware of many other cancer victims who received $100s of thousands of dollars in health care, something smells fishy about this claim.
Is there anyone who can dig out the truth on this and let the world know?
Is there anyone who can dig out the truth on this and let the world know?
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written by Indenpendent voter, October 22, 2008
here is the court case battle in which states all the motions by both parties.
This will have an impact on how I vote. I was leaning towards Obama, but since this came out I am now undecided one thing is clear Obama must release his papers now. Americans need to hold on voting until this crisis is solved. here is the link to the court case http://dockets.justia.com/dock...id-281573/
This will have an impact on how I vote. I was leaning towards Obama, but since this came out I am now undecided one thing is clear Obama must release his papers now. Americans need to hold on voting until this crisis is solved. here is the link to the court case http://dockets.justia.com/dock...id-281573/
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written by obama, October 22, 2008
Everything about this man called Obama is illegitimate.
EVERYTHING
No OBAMA
GOD BLESS ATTORNEY BERG
Settle this NOW please.
EVERYTHING
No OBAMA
GOD BLESS ATTORNEY BERG
Settle this NOW please.
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written by Ken T, October 22, 2008
I am a life long democrat. I am super upset with the democratic party. Dean, Pelosi, Reid must know by now that Obama is not eligible to be president and they should remove him as the Democratic candidate and replace him immediately. They are destroying the Dem Party by continuning to stone wall the public. they could look like honest heros by removing O boo boo.
Instead they take the Party down into the hell created by Obama.
$600 million dollars taken fraudulently from donors. If all the donors demand their money back it will bankrupt the Party. The law says you must refund any money requested refunded within one year of the donation. So Obama is holding a one year time frame on the money.
Better get your money back NOW because it will be impossible very soon. I keep wondering if Obama is going to Hawaii so he can jump a plane to Indonesia and disappear.
Instead they take the Party down into the hell created by Obama.
$600 million dollars taken fraudulently from donors. If all the donors demand their money back it will bankrupt the Party. The law says you must refund any money requested refunded within one year of the donation. So Obama is holding a one year time frame on the money.
Better get your money back NOW because it will be impossible very soon. I keep wondering if Obama is going to Hawaii so he can jump a plane to Indonesia and disappear.
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written by Brownpride, October 22, 2008
heard the case on KSFO 560 AM last night!
heard the case on KSFO 560 AM last night!
heard the case on KSFO 560 AM last night!
heard the case on KSFO 560 AM last night!
heard the case on KSFO 560 AM last night!
A few brave souls risking their future to air the truth!
heard the case on KSFO 560 AM last night!
heard the case on KSFO 560 AM last night!
heard the case on KSFO 560 AM last night!
heard the case on KSFO 560 AM last night!
A few brave souls risking their future to air the truth!
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written by Jon Whitmore, October 22, 2008
If he and they admitted it, then why can't he be arrested? He is not commiting a crime?
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written by M. Powell, October 22, 2008
Is this FOR REAL? If so, why are we NOT hearing it in ANY of the media? This is SCARY... & how do we STOP these people , COMMUNISTS & SOCIALISTS, who are on the verge of STEALING our Country? I am not the brightest bulb on the tree, but I do know we have Americans all over the world trying to spread Freedom to others & many DYING abroad to protect our Safety & Freedom here at home as well. So how is it that the very things we are fighting AGAINST all across the globe are alive & well & spreading like the black plague here IN America? How do we stop this surge of "Socialism & Marxism" that threatens to destroy the fundamental principals that ARE America ? Voting does not seem to help much as THAT system has been pretty much infiltrated with political corruption as well , destroying the integrity and validity of the whole voting system. We seem to just get financially & intellectually "raped" by the same old crooked bunch of partisan cronies ! When we do manage to get some NEW blood in Washington who ARE well-intentioned , the old " I'll be here till I die in office & you can't make me leave(!)" soon indoctrinate the NEW blood WE elect into their "bought & paid for politicians club" in Washington! There are TOO FEW who manage to overcome the odds of winning against a fast-growing Socialist minded political machine that exists only because it breeds Class Warfare with a "you owe me because I am" , "blame & hate America first" & " I don't care what it costs as long as it's FREE to ME" agenda! Lobbying should be outlawed completely. Campaign finance reform needs to be implimented immediately, ending ALL political contributions. WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE GOVERNMENT, WE OWN THE AIRWAYS, & IT SHOULD BE MANDATORY THAT TO OBTAIN A RADIO STATION OR TELEVISION LICENSE YOU HAVE TO DONATE FREE ACCESS & EQUAL TIME TO ALL QUALIFIED POLITICAL CANDIDATES FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 3 MONTHS PRIOR TO ANY PRIMARY OR GENERAL ELECTION. FEDERAL,STATE OR LOCAL. There would be no unfair spending or blitz advertising, no time for trashing your opponent except on REAL grounds that can be factually verified, such as CHARACTER , QUALIFICATIONS, POLICY & INTENT. No pacs or lobby interests to be beholding to if elected. It is "given" that voting is a right in America. It is also an INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY TO REGISTER YOURSELF TO VOTE if you wish to excersize that right. The current Presidential election should be SUSPENDED & DELAYED by the Supreme Court until such time as ALL STATES have time to check & purge ALL unqualified & duplicate voter registrations from their systems , thereby restoring the INTEGRITY of the system. There is already ONE fraudulent vote in Ohio. That affects & DIS-ENFRANCHISES & NEGATES ME, MY VOTE, in the election & everyone else's in the United States. An extended Bush Presidency for "cookin' the books" would serve them right! Personally, I love President Bush. He has kept me & mine & my Country safe under his watch, & THAT was his #1 job. Maggie in Oklahoma
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written by Ted Park, October 22, 2008
This is partly in reference Americasright's post above and partly out of general "panic".
Do we have a general timeline of necessary events? Without questioning the current judge in this case, the fact remains that there is a looming deadline. Working backwards, certain things need to be done at certain times. One such decision point is to seek legal remedy at the next step up in the appeals/escalation process. What is the drop-dead date for that? Surely this judge most know that and surely he would intend to provide rulings before that date. Right?
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written by MARGUERITE, October 22, 2008
SCAREY FRIGHTENING WWW.WND.COM www.wnd.com on right front page click
TV ADS TARGETS OBAMAS TIES TO KENYAN RADICAL ODINGA
ALL THE MORE REASON OBAMA NEED NOT GET ELECTED IF AMERICA ONLY KNEW!!!!
WWW.WND.COM www.wnd.com on right front page ALLLLLL MUST READ THIS WATCH VIDEOS SCAREY!!!!
TV ADS TARGETS OBAMAS TIES TO KENYAN RADICAL ODINGA
ALL THE MORE REASON OBAMA NEED NOT GET ELECTED IF AMERICA ONLY KNEW!!!!
WWW.WND.COM www.wnd.com on right front page ALLLLLL MUST READ THIS WATCH VIDEOS SCAREY!!!!
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written by Shelby 05, October 22, 2008
Everyone please call The Department of Homeland Security and request Barack Hussein Obama produce his vaulted birth certificate immediately according to ArticleII Section I of the United States Constitution.
If we all call at once, maybe we can get some attention to this issue.
The operators will not allow you to speak to Secretary Chertoff so here is the only way we have to contact them.
This is the comment line: 202-282-8495
Thank you,
Vanessa
If we all call at once, maybe we can get some attention to this issue.
The operators will not allow you to speak to Secretary Chertoff so here is the only way we have to contact them.
This is the comment line: 202-282-8495
Thank you,
Vanessa
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written by Steve, October 22, 2008
The only way you guys can get victory is if Berg can somehow remove Obama from the ticket in less then 2 weeks...TIME IS RUNNING OUT!!!
Even the Fox News Poll has Obama at a 9 point lead. Not looking good... The devils have control over Fox news now too!!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,443343,00.html
Even the Fox News Poll has Obama at a 9 point lead. Not looking good... The devils have control over Fox news now too!!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,443343,00.html
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written by Steve, October 22, 2008
The only way you guys can get victory is if Berg can somehow get the judge to Obama from the ticket in less then 2 weeks...TIME IS RUNNING OUT!!!
Even the Fox News Poll has Obama at a 9 point lead. Not looking good... The devils have control over Fox news now too!!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,443343,00.html
This country has 13 days left to live...Please we got to get this out somehow since the MSM wont!!!
Even the Fox News Poll has Obama at a 9 point lead. Not looking good... The devils have control over Fox news now too!!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,443343,00.html
This country has 13 days left to live...Please we got to get this out somehow since the MSM wont!!!
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written by wowiezowie, October 22, 2008
Someone emailed me that Obama spelled backward meant something, I thought Ya, sure it does. Someone wrote a paper titled "Plautonic Amabo: When Men Say “Please” in Plautus" at the very end of this paper, is this phrase: The use of amabo helps to bring out his misplaced passion and sudden reversal of
roles.
Matthew D. PANCIERA Plautonic Amabo : When Men Say “Please” in Plautus
I hope that Berg wins this lawsuit, I just checked the Judicial Website with the Court Record of Events, nothing done yet today.
The more I watch the news, and see all the Obama speeches all over, today he's in VA while his grandma is dying in Hawaii, I'm so sick of listening to his garbage about McCain talking negative about him, what a flunken Hypocrite
roles.
Matthew D. PANCIERA Plautonic Amabo : When Men Say “Please” in Plautus
I hope that Berg wins this lawsuit, I just checked the Judicial Website with the Court Record of Events, nothing done yet today.
The more I watch the news, and see all the Obama speeches all over, today he's in VA while his grandma is dying in Hawaii, I'm so sick of listening to his garbage about McCain talking negative about him, what a flunken Hypocrite
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written by MARGUERITE, October 22, 2008
READ ALLLLLLL ABOUT OBAMA AND HIS FRIENDS AND MENTORS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PASS ON
http://colony14.net/id41.html
http://colony14.net/id41.html
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written by Steve, October 22, 2008
Yeah, okay, Obama's Grandmother is really dying in Hawaii, WHAT A CROCK OF BS... THEN WHY THE F*CK IS HE RALLYING IN VIRGINIA... THE MAN DOESNT CARE ABOUT ANYONE BUT HIMSELF AND HIS DEVIL FRIENDS. ALL EH CARES ABOUT IS BECOMING PRESIDENT WITH A STRONG DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS SO HE CAN DESTROY AMERICA PIECE BY PIECE!!! ANYONE WHO STILL SUPPORTS OBAMA WILL GET IT COMING...
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written by Dean, October 22, 2008
Are you guys going to set up a website? Do you need help with that? I'm right down the road in Bedford County.
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written by David08, October 22, 2008
This will make you re-think. A Trivia question:
How long is the beast allowed to have authority in Revelations?
Revelation Chapter 13 tells us it is 42 months, and you know what that is.
Almost a four-year term of a Presidency.
All I can say is 'Lord, Have mercy on us!'
According to The Book of Revelation the anti-Christ is: A man, in his 40's, of MUSLIM descent, who will
deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says
that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power,
will destroy everything..
Do we recognize this description???
I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to post this as many times as
you can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet..do it!
I refuse to take a chance on this unknown candidate who came out of nowhere.
From: Dr. John Tisdale
That would make that symbol he superimposes on our national seal and other logos,,,
The mark of the beast. Some are hypnotized and others are immune and rightly experience great fear.
How long is the beast allowed to have authority in Revelations?
Revelation Chapter 13 tells us it is 42 months, and you know what that is.
Almost a four-year term of a Presidency.
All I can say is 'Lord, Have mercy on us!'
According to The Book of Revelation the anti-Christ is: A man, in his 40's, of MUSLIM descent, who will
deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says
that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power,
will destroy everything..
Do we recognize this description???
I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to post this as many times as
you can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet..do it!
I refuse to take a chance on this unknown candidate who came out of nowhere.
From: Dr. John Tisdale
That would make that symbol he superimposes on our national seal and other logos,,,
The mark of the beast. Some are hypnotized and others are immune and rightly experience great fear.
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written by Linda P, October 22, 2008
Wednesday, October 22, 2008
The strange silence of Barack Obama’s grandmother
Andy Martin’s investigative team digs for the truth. Is Obama using his ill grandmother as a beard to conceal his true concern: a release of the original copy of his 1961 birth certificate?
http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/
The strange silence of Barack Obama’s grandmother
Andy Martin’s investigative team digs for the truth. Is Obama using his ill grandmother as a beard to conceal his true concern: a release of the original copy of his 1961 birth certificate?
http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/
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written by Ben in TX, October 22, 2008
You are wrong. She must have lived in the US for at least 5 years after attaining the age of 15. She had not. You might want to stop cherry picking the law and leaving out the parts that you prefer were not there.
Most everyone here has heard the arguments enough to know where the holes in your story lie, we have read ALL of the filings and are comfortable with the suit. It is thim for BO to SHOW THE DOCUMENTS!!!!
Ben
Most everyone here has heard the arguments enough to know where the holes in your story lie, we have read ALL of the filings and are comfortable with the suit. It is thim for BO to SHOW THE DOCUMENTS!!!!
Ben
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written by BlueWater1949, October 22, 2008
You may be right. Nothing else explains the blindness that his followers have. If he is not the anti-Christ, he's a good warm-up act.
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written by Maxy Pad, October 22, 2008
Hey Mike, I looked at the St. Pete times sight and everything looks good. Except for the fact that ALL Obama has to do is provide his Birth Certificate to the court. It will answer all the question; the case will be dismissed and Mr. Berg will be forever labeled a conspiracy nutjob and a poor attorney.
Why won't Obama prove this to the court? If it is as you say it is, just put this issue to rest.
Why won't Obama prove this to the court? If it is as you say it is, just put this issue to rest.
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written by wiswmn, October 22, 2008
To: KEVINMM: At the risk of starting an argument with you or anyone else for that matter, I have a question for you. If Barack Obama's mother married Mr. Sottoro, and they moved to Indonesia, and Mr. Sottoro adopted Barack, at that time was dual citizenship recognized? If so, I have more questions:
1. When Barack moved back to Hawaii, did he give up his Indonesian Citenzinship and become a U.S. Citizen again?
2. Our laws state that the President Elect cannot have dual citizenship, is there proof he became a U.S. Citizen again?
3. Why is it that no one can find his passport records? He just took a world wide trip not to long ago.
Thank you
1. When Barack moved back to Hawaii, did he give up his Indonesian Citenzinship and become a U.S. Citizen again?
2. Our laws state that the President Elect cannot have dual citizenship, is there proof he became a U.S. Citizen again?
3. Why is it that no one can find his passport records? He just took a world wide trip not to long ago.
Thank you
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written by Dean, October 22, 2008
Please take some time and read the hundreds and hundreds of emails that have already been posted before posting something that shows how little you actually know about this case.
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written by Cathy, October 22, 2008
We can only pray that this issue is dealt with quickly so he doesn't get in there, cause all kinds of messes and we have to somehow get him out! I know the courts move slowly.....give me a break!
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written by Hopeful, October 22, 2008
Phil Berg -- if you do get your hands on the Michelle Obama tape from API might I make a suggestion. I know everyone is gung ho about giving them to FOX news. I am okay with that too. However, in light of the fact they have not covered our story yet, makes me think we should give the tape to others as well. More specific, those who can be trusted to tell the truth like Lour Dobbs. He is an independent and has been leary of Obama since the beginning too. Just a suggestion.
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written by James, October 22, 2008
I hope Philip Berg has Obama covered in Hawaiii. It obvious he is going there to remedy this lawsuit against (The smokescreen is visiting his grandmother) him. Inverstigators should monitor Obama's every move and make sure that all critical documents are kept under lock and key and that all important officials have been briefed on Obama's arrival.
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written by Steve, October 22, 2008
To David08 & bluewater1949,
IMHO, there is a 75% chance that BHO is the Anti-Christ...My Aunt is a scholar of the Bible and she is certain that he is the False Messiah.,.. Now, that doesn't mean he could be president.. Or he could be elected then something happen 1-2 years down the road...There are a few Biblical experts who think the end will occur in December of 2011... Then ofcourse you have the Mayans believing 2012...Regardless were done, unless we all repent and somehow change our lifestsyle.... Just think about how Obooma has already brainwashed millions and has the MSM 99% in the tank for him!! Aren't other countries supporting him like 90%???
IMHO, there is a 75% chance that BHO is the Anti-Christ...My Aunt is a scholar of the Bible and she is certain that he is the False Messiah.,.. Now, that doesn't mean he could be president.. Or he could be elected then something happen 1-2 years down the road...There are a few Biblical experts who think the end will occur in December of 2011... Then ofcourse you have the Mayans believing 2012...Regardless were done, unless we all repent and somehow change our lifestsyle.... Just think about how Obooma has already brainwashed millions and has the MSM 99% in the tank for him!! Aren't other countries supporting him like 90%???
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written by Legal precedent, October 22, 2008
You know perhaps the reason the MSM or even Hannity or Rush is not covering this story is because Berg's last lawsuit that got media attention Rodrigez v Bush aka "911 for the truth" conspiracy theory case. Regardless of the merit of this case, a lot of people, especially patriotic conservatives, are skeptical about Berg's credibility. If he wins, that would change, but looking at the 911fortheTruth website, there were a lot of the same press releases and motions etc. etc., and look where that lawsuit went.
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written by Ben in TX, October 22, 2008
be human born? Would he have a Birth Certificate?
Revelations is a bit too much for me to comprehend but I did enjoy the Left Behind books.
Ben
Revelations is a bit too much for me to comprehend but I did enjoy the Left Behind books.
Ben
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written by For JOHN MCCAIN, October 22, 2008
I have been praying because I am afriad of this man taking this election by Hook or Crook, I am so tired of his lies,
Rev Wright, I went to his church for twenty years and I didn't know he said these things, they sold his CD's in the church gift shop for God's sakes!
Secondly Father Plager, his excuse again I had no idea, then Bill Aiyers, some guy that lived in my neighborhood, his kids went to school with my kids, to "I thought he was rehabilitated",
Tony Rezko, he didn't know about him, but Tony and Barrack Hussien Obama looked at his house the first time together,
then lets talk about ACORN! Do we not see a pattern here? There is so many more things that are even on his smear page and he has an excuse for all the smears! What is wrong with America, I am so angry this man has taken people's money and is going to ruin our country, my country! And please don't use the race card, because he is a black man, I am voting for the best person to take the job of President of United States, John McCain, a man that stayed in a prison camp for 51/2 years and then has given his life for our country and doesn't have smears that he has not answers for, yes he was part of the Keaton Five but he has taken the last twenty years making sure he never made that mistake again, but not Barrack Hussien Obama, or Barry Soreito, or whatever his name is!!!
Today I read an article from a paper in Hawaii online stating that grandma's brother was interviewed from his home, not in Hawaii, but he was planning on going to Hawaii for his sister's for a birthday party this Sunday, and Barrack Hussien Obama is going Thursday and leaving Friday, why not stay for the weekend??? And if grandma is so sick how are they planning a birthday party for Sunday? And MIchelle and his daughters are not going to see their sick grandma, why not if this is so serious. I will pray for his grandma because I am sure she has sacrificed alot for her grandson that threw her under the bus, before he threw his beloved Rev Wright!
Back in August his trip was sort of sudden went he went to Hawaii, and I wonder how much time he really spent with his grandmother.
I wonder what his relationship and the time he has spent with his grandmother that sacrificed soooooo much for him, he talks about all of his mentors that have been his guide, I wonder if she was at his church the day he was baptized, or for his wedding, I am sure she was made to feel real comfortable with Rev. Wright!
I pray to God that Mr. Berg is successful and America wake up and pay attention to this man, he is not fit to hold the highest office in the free world! I have been an officer in the Army Reserves , andI do not want him leading my great country! He wants to change the national anthem to "we our the world", We are AMERICA, much blood and treasure has made us the great United States! Please America, please prevent this overtaking of our country!!!
1 LT Renee
Rev Wright, I went to his church for twenty years and I didn't know he said these things, they sold his CD's in the church gift shop for God's sakes!
Secondly Father Plager, his excuse again I had no idea, then Bill Aiyers, some guy that lived in my neighborhood, his kids went to school with my kids, to "I thought he was rehabilitated",
Tony Rezko, he didn't know about him, but Tony and Barrack Hussien Obama looked at his house the first time together,
then lets talk about ACORN! Do we not see a pattern here? There is so many more things that are even on his smear page and he has an excuse for all the smears! What is wrong with America, I am so angry this man has taken people's money and is going to ruin our country, my country! And please don't use the race card, because he is a black man, I am voting for the best person to take the job of President of United States, John McCain, a man that stayed in a prison camp for 51/2 years and then has given his life for our country and doesn't have smears that he has not answers for, yes he was part of the Keaton Five but he has taken the last twenty years making sure he never made that mistake again, but not Barrack Hussien Obama, or Barry Soreito, or whatever his name is!!!
Today I read an article from a paper in Hawaii online stating that grandma's brother was interviewed from his home, not in Hawaii, but he was planning on going to Hawaii for his sister's for a birthday party this Sunday, and Barrack Hussien Obama is going Thursday and leaving Friday, why not stay for the weekend??? And if grandma is so sick how are they planning a birthday party for Sunday? And MIchelle and his daughters are not going to see their sick grandma, why not if this is so serious. I will pray for his grandma because I am sure she has sacrificed alot for her grandson that threw her under the bus, before he threw his beloved Rev Wright!
Back in August his trip was sort of sudden went he went to Hawaii, and I wonder how much time he really spent with his grandmother.
I wonder what his relationship and the time he has spent with his grandmother that sacrificed soooooo much for him, he talks about all of his mentors that have been his guide, I wonder if she was at his church the day he was baptized, or for his wedding, I am sure she was made to feel real comfortable with Rev. Wright!
I pray to God that Mr. Berg is successful and America wake up and pay attention to this man, he is not fit to hold the highest office in the free world! I have been an officer in the Army Reserves , andI do not want him leading my great country! He wants to change the national anthem to "we our the world", We are AMERICA, much blood and treasure has made us the great United States! Please America, please prevent this overtaking of our country!!!
1 LT Renee
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written by Citizen, October 22, 2008
Rush & Sean , internal polls leaked , race is tied ................
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written by Obamacrimes, October 22, 2008
BIDEN IMPLIED THE DRAFT IS IMMINENT UNDER OBAMA FOR BOTH MEN AND WOMEN
HE WILL BE A DEER IN HEADLIGHTS, EVEN HE IS SAYING NOT TO VOTE A NOOB IN IN THIS DANGEROUS WORLD
And it looks as though Iran intends to hit Israel FIRST
Notice how emboldened they already are with the idea of an Obama in office!
THIS WILL BE A NUCLEAR WAR FOLKS NO JOKE!
Per Little Green Footballs: Looks like Joe “Nostradamus” Biden’s prediction of an international crisis if Obama is elected may come true even sooner than he thought: Top Iran officials recommend preemptive strike against Israel.
Senior Tehran officials are recommending a preemptive strike against Israel to prevent an Israeli attack on Iran’s nuclear reactors, a senior Islamic Republic official told foreign diplomats two weeks ago in London.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1030279.html
Hmmmm. DNC VP Candidate Joe Biden must have gotten the debrief from US Intelligence and had to spill out the goods b/c it is going to be disasterous for Obama and he truly believes like before McCain is the better candidate.
Just my thoughts.
HE WILL BE A DEER IN HEADLIGHTS, EVEN HE IS SAYING NOT TO VOTE A NOOB IN IN THIS DANGEROUS WORLD
And it looks as though Iran intends to hit Israel FIRST
Notice how emboldened they already are with the idea of an Obama in office!
THIS WILL BE A NUCLEAR WAR FOLKS NO JOKE!
Per Little Green Footballs: Looks like Joe “Nostradamus” Biden’s prediction of an international crisis if Obama is elected may come true even sooner than he thought: Top Iran officials recommend preemptive strike against Israel.
Senior Tehran officials are recommending a preemptive strike against Israel to prevent an Israeli attack on Iran’s nuclear reactors, a senior Islamic Republic official told foreign diplomats two weeks ago in London.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1030279.html
Hmmmm. DNC VP Candidate Joe Biden must have gotten the debrief from US Intelligence and had to spill out the goods b/c it is going to be disasterous for Obama and he truly believes like before McCain is the better candidate.
Just my thoughts.
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written by KevinMM, October 22, 2008
To Ben:
First off, the law says "was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years"
Hawaii, while not a state at the time, was an outlying possession of the United States. According to the law, two or more of the years she lived in the U.S (or its properties) must have been after she turned 14 (not 15 as you claim).
According to Wikipedia, Ann Dunham was born on November 29th, 1942. She would've turned 14 on November 29th, 1956. She moved to Hawaii from Kansas at the age of 17 in 1959. At this point, she would've spent three years above the age of 14 in the United States. Thus, she'd have already fulfilled the qualifications for the law in question, as she had spent more than five years in the U.S., two or more of them while over the age of 14.
Obviously, she's well over the minimum. Please try to be honest in clear cut matters of the law.
To wiswnn:
"If Barack Obama's mother married Mr. Sottoro, and they moved to Indonesia, and Mr. Sottoro adopted Barack, at that time was dual citizenship recognized?"
Indonesia does not legally recognize dual-citizenship. What this means that if you were, say, a Swedish/Ukranian and went to Indonesia for an extended period of time, they'd recognise you as only Swedish or Ukranian, not both. In the case of Barack Obama, they recognized him as an Indonesian, not as an Indonesian/American. U.S. law would still recognize Barack as an American citizen.
Barack Obama in fact couldn't lose his American citizenship due to his stepfather's actions. Parents cannot legally renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children, according to the government: http://travel.state.gov/law/ci...p_776.html. A minor child may do it himself, as well (obviously) as when they're legal adults.
"1. When Barack moved back to Hawaii, did he give up his Indonesian Citenzinship and become a U.S. Citizen again? "
Indonesian law requires that citizens declare their intent to keep their citizenship every five years or risk losing it. As Barack visited his mother and sister in Indonesia, and went to Pakistan, in 1981, it is reasonable to assume that his citizenship was still intact at this point. Barack had returned to Hawaii in 1971 at the age of ten, and visited his mother around the age of 19 or 20. As he was a minor for the previous period of renewal (1976), he did not need to actively renew his citizenship as he was still legally one simply through his father.
At the second period of renewal (1981), depending on the timing of everything Obama was either riding out the last few months of his valid passport/citizenship when he visited, or his citizenship had been renewed for another five year period.
Since then, there is no indication that Barack has maintained his citizenship for Indonesia, and thus we can assume it has been lost, making him solely an American citizen at this point
"2. Our laws state that the President Elect cannot have dual citizenship, is there proof he became a U.S. Citizen again? "
Irrelevant as Obama is no longer an Indonesian citizen, nor has never not been a U.S. citizen.
"3. Why is it that no one can find his passport records? He just took a world wide trip not to long ago. "
Because that's highly illegal if you're talking about what I think you're talking about.
First off, the law says "was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years"
Hawaii, while not a state at the time, was an outlying possession of the United States. According to the law, two or more of the years she lived in the U.S (or its properties) must have been after she turned 14 (not 15 as you claim).
According to Wikipedia, Ann Dunham was born on November 29th, 1942. She would've turned 14 on November 29th, 1956. She moved to Hawaii from Kansas at the age of 17 in 1959. At this point, she would've spent three years above the age of 14 in the United States. Thus, she'd have already fulfilled the qualifications for the law in question, as she had spent more than five years in the U.S., two or more of them while over the age of 14.
Obviously, she's well over the minimum. Please try to be honest in clear cut matters of the law.
To wiswnn:
"If Barack Obama's mother married Mr. Sottoro, and they moved to Indonesia, and Mr. Sottoro adopted Barack, at that time was dual citizenship recognized?"
Indonesia does not legally recognize dual-citizenship. What this means that if you were, say, a Swedish/Ukranian and went to Indonesia for an extended period of time, they'd recognise you as only Swedish or Ukranian, not both. In the case of Barack Obama, they recognized him as an Indonesian, not as an Indonesian/American. U.S. law would still recognize Barack as an American citizen.
Barack Obama in fact couldn't lose his American citizenship due to his stepfather's actions. Parents cannot legally renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children, according to the government: http://travel.state.gov/law/ci...p_776.html. A minor child may do it himself, as well (obviously) as when they're legal adults.
"1. When Barack moved back to Hawaii, did he give up his Indonesian Citenzinship and become a U.S. Citizen again? "
Indonesian law requires that citizens declare their intent to keep their citizenship every five years or risk losing it. As Barack visited his mother and sister in Indonesia, and went to Pakistan, in 1981, it is reasonable to assume that his citizenship was still intact at this point. Barack had returned to Hawaii in 1971 at the age of ten, and visited his mother around the age of 19 or 20. As he was a minor for the previous period of renewal (1976), he did not need to actively renew his citizenship as he was still legally one simply through his father.
At the second period of renewal (1981), depending on the timing of everything Obama was either riding out the last few months of his valid passport/citizenship when he visited, or his citizenship had been renewed for another five year period.
Since then, there is no indication that Barack has maintained his citizenship for Indonesia, and thus we can assume it has been lost, making him solely an American citizen at this point
"2. Our laws state that the President Elect cannot have dual citizenship, is there proof he became a U.S. Citizen again? "
Irrelevant as Obama is no longer an Indonesian citizen, nor has never not been a U.S. citizen.
"3. Why is it that no one can find his passport records? He just took a world wide trip not to long ago. "
Because that's highly illegal if you're talking about what I think you're talking about.
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written by Carolyn, October 22, 2008
Wild Bill,
What are you doing differently than Berg? I would also like to file a suit in my homestate, but do not know how to go about it.
Why is Obama hiding?
Anyone in America deserves to know his citizenship status. This is more than scary!
What are you doing differently than Berg? I would also like to file a suit in my homestate, but do not know how to go about it.
Why is Obama hiding?
Anyone in America deserves to know his citizenship status. This is more than scary!
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written by Carolyn, October 22, 2008
I attempted the phone# for ACLJ but it doesn't not work. Do you have a different ph#????
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written by Steve, October 22, 2008
I hope you have corrected the typo in your press release already.
"... announced today that Obama and tbe DNC “ADMITTED”,
Perhaps you should replace the letter at the top of your site with a corrected one?
"... announced today that Obama and tbe DNC “ADMITTED”,
Perhaps you should replace the letter at the top of your site with a corrected one?
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written by buddy, October 22, 2008
Link below offers a long, but plausible description of the techniques the Obama campaign uses to induce a favorable hypnotic state that will induce listeners to vote for Obama Nov 4.
iEver wonder why Obama speaks so slooooowly, pauses soooo dramatically, and uses those oh so familiar hand gestures? Why are his supporters are uniformly unable to express one concrete reason they are voting for him?
According to the article, people with critical thinking skills are best able to resist these subliminal messages, which would be you! However, that leaves those others, absent that skill, completely vulnerable to his message.
http://www.pennypresslv.com/ Obama's_Use_of_Hidden_Hypnosis_techniques_in_His_Speech
es.pdf
iEver wonder why Obama speaks so slooooowly, pauses soooo dramatically, and uses those oh so familiar hand gestures? Why are his supporters are uniformly unable to express one concrete reason they are voting for him?
According to the article, people with critical thinking skills are best able to resist these subliminal messages, which would be you! However, that leaves those others, absent that skill, completely vulnerable to his message.
http://www.pennypresslv.com/ Obama's_Use_of_Hidden_Hypnosis_techniques_in_His_Speech
es.pdf
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written by Brian, October 22, 2008
I have had some thoughts on Obama being the anti-christ and Im glad that people are brining it up.
I dont think he is...biggest reason, there are a lot of us who arent fooled by him (he will fool even the very elect).
As far as the Bible saying he will be a muslim, I dont recall reading that either. Im no biblical scholar, but I have read enough of the book or Revelations to know that John saw "...a beast rise out of the sea, having 7 horns and 10 crowns....sounds to me like someone of the European community.
Point is....dont worry about when....just be ready for WHENEVER!
A VOTE FOR MCCAIN IS A VOTE FOR THE CONSTITUTION!
I dont think he is...biggest reason, there are a lot of us who arent fooled by him (he will fool even the very elect).
As far as the Bible saying he will be a muslim, I dont recall reading that either. Im no biblical scholar, but I have read enough of the book or Revelations to know that John saw "...a beast rise out of the sea, having 7 horns and 10 crowns....sounds to me like someone of the European community.
Point is....dont worry about when....just be ready for WHENEVER!
A VOTE FOR MCCAIN IS A VOTE FOR THE CONSTITUTION!
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written by Ben in TX, October 22, 2008
My bad about the 14, but you are still WRONG. That is not the law in effect in 1961 but the law that was ammended in 1984 (?) I think. So you still don't know what you are talking about. She had not spent five years in the US after the age of 14. That's it for me, I'm ignoring you, you are a wate of time.
Ben
Ben
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written by Sister Rosetta, October 22, 2008
I'm confused!
“The so-called President of Plains Raido/Texas, Ed Hale now on API’s US Lawyer Philip Berg on Michelle Obama tapes”
http://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/10/22/“the-so-called-president-of-plains-raidotexas-ed-hale-now-on-api’s-us-lawyer-philip-berg-on-michelle-obama-tapes”/
Does anyone know if Berg has responded to Hale's complaint?
Or will he respond?
“The so-called President of Plains Raido/Texas, Ed Hale now on API’s US Lawyer Philip Berg on Michelle Obama tapes”
http://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2008/10/22/“the-so-called-president-of-plains-raidotexas-ed-hale-now-on-api’s-us-lawyer-philip-berg-on-michelle-obama-tapes”/
Does anyone know if Berg has responded to Hale's complaint?
Or will he respond?
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written by Brian, October 22, 2008
The biggest condemning evidence of Obama being the ac is how the WORLD is marveling after him.
Tell us what we have been missing from the book of Revelations (since we havent cracked it open and read it and its quite obvious, you have).
Tell us what we have been missing from the book of Revelations (since we havent cracked it open and read it and its quite obvious, you have).
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written by Jon in OR, October 22, 2008
She was 18 when she had Barack, so even if she was in the US, she had not been here for 5 years after 14, or after 16, etc.
Kevin, if Obama has a birth certificate in the Hawaii's vaults that would put this all to rest, if there are medical records, why hasn't he done it just to be done with it?
Even without this lawsuit, why the hell hasn't he released his medical records? John McCain did even knowing it would be used by sick liberals to slime him.
All BHO has to do is release all of his records to clear up all of it. The fact that he won't is the biggest argument that he is hiding the truth. Do the DNC and Obama campaign really like that this is still going? Obviously not, but if they could end it with the documents, if they exist, why not just do it?
What would be harmful to his campaign to release his birth certificate? I can think of two reasons: 1) It shows his birth in Kenya or 2) It shows his name is really Mohammed Hussein Obama or something like that.
His lack of transparency on this and Ayers and ACORN and etc. is the most diconcerting part of his campaign
Kevin, if Obama has a birth certificate in the Hawaii's vaults that would put this all to rest, if there are medical records, why hasn't he done it just to be done with it?
Even without this lawsuit, why the hell hasn't he released his medical records? John McCain did even knowing it would be used by sick liberals to slime him.
All BHO has to do is release all of his records to clear up all of it. The fact that he won't is the biggest argument that he is hiding the truth. Do the DNC and Obama campaign really like that this is still going? Obviously not, but if they could end it with the documents, if they exist, why not just do it?
What would be harmful to his campaign to release his birth certificate? I can think of two reasons: 1) It shows his birth in Kenya or 2) It shows his name is really Mohammed Hussein Obama or something like that.
His lack of transparency on this and Ayers and ACORN and etc. is the most diconcerting part of his campaign
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written by MARGUERITE, October 22, 2008
ck out www.theobamafile.com www.wnd.com CORSI REPORT KENYA ODINGA AND OBAMA
CK http://colony14.net/41.html OBAMA AND MENTORS
CK http://colony14.net/41.html OBAMA AND MENTORS
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written by BlueWater1949, October 22, 2008
Gina - Educate us, girl. You claim to know better - I'm open.
Gina?
Gina?
Hello?
Sarah - your presence means that you either have no life, or some fear has crept in. People like to keep an eye on their enemies.
Gina?
Gina?
Hello?
Sarah - your presence means that you either have no life, or some fear has crept in. People like to keep an eye on their enemies.
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written by wqflagwaver, October 22, 2008
I can't understand how anyone could see this video and hear the undesputable info in it and STILL doubt this man is a plot, a plan with origins from other countries and ideologies. They have been priming him for years! If you add up all his associations it makes PERFECT sense! Why doesn no one want to believe 2 and 2 make 4??? when would anybody even remotely like this guy be allowed NEAR the White House -- and WHY do the Obama-Zombies follow him? They don't even know themselves. What does "change" mean? Funny that is exactly what ODINGA is shouting as HIS campaign mantra in KENYA! LOOK!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ
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written by wqflagwaver, October 22, 2008
BTW the video IS real. Does that make a difference to anyone still in charge of their brain?
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written by LEN REDMON, October 22, 2008
Need Info Please!!!!!
Who is the gentleman in Hawaii that is filing the suit against the clerk and the governor? What is his web address?
Thanks
Who is the gentleman in Hawaii that is filing the suit against the clerk and the governor? What is his web address?
Thanks
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written by A LÍNGUA! - Brazilian anti-communist blog, October 22, 2008
Hello to Everybody here!
I am the person who writes the A Língua! blog, that in English means "The Tong!" I cannot reveal my name because I never know when Lula can chase me for kill. Yes, this is the time we are living in Brazil. We use to say that our unpleasident is our Obama and the fake American candidate is the Lula of the Americans.
Obama has sated that he wants to meet Hugo Chávez, the co-godfather of FARC of Lula and Fidel, "WITHOUT ANY CONDITIONS!" This is an action of a dictator alien that by evil caprice wants to take the USA to himself and make the country an orgy of communist horror.
Many people protested against the USA to invade Iraq. But nobody protests due to Lula & Friends to promote drug mafias in Brazil that generate over 50,000 murdering acts in Brazil. The de-government states that we don't live in a climax or weather of civil war, but 50,000 deaths are equal two Iraq wars per year. Over 30% that number corresponds to the City of Rio de Janeiro.
If Obama is friend of Hugo Chávez and yet received donations from Hamaz, he must be a friend of Lula, but he does not want our ethanol because he wants to make the sponsors of islamic terror coordinated by KGB even stronger.
McCain wants to approach Brazil to the USA. He and Palin want our ethanol, and we need other products from the USA that will enforce us to reduce taxes what will be great for the Brazilians. Cheap cars, cheaper energy, cheaper telephony, people will increase their income by spending less.
If you want to know the bonds of Lula with the command of FARC, please visit my blog. If some news report is not in English, call on me, and I will send you a translation.
America, be yourself, don't let the foreigners to command you. Brazil is an example of what America will become. Lula is giving huge portions of Brazilian states to UNO, and yet wants to create communist proletariates. And the media that is controlled by the PCdoB (Communist Party of Brazil) that created the PT, stays silent, fooling the faith of the people that pay the largest number of the most expensive taxes in the world.
This is Brazil, my fellows!
A Língua!
www.alingua.blogspot.com
I am the person who writes the A Língua! blog, that in English means "The Tong!" I cannot reveal my name because I never know when Lula can chase me for kill. Yes, this is the time we are living in Brazil. We use to say that our unpleasident is our Obama and the fake American candidate is the Lula of the Americans.
Obama has sated that he wants to meet Hugo Chávez, the co-godfather of FARC of Lula and Fidel, "WITHOUT ANY CONDITIONS!" This is an action of a dictator alien that by evil caprice wants to take the USA to himself and make the country an orgy of communist horror.
Many people protested against the USA to invade Iraq. But nobody protests due to Lula & Friends to promote drug mafias in Brazil that generate over 50,000 murdering acts in Brazil. The de-government states that we don't live in a climax or weather of civil war, but 50,000 deaths are equal two Iraq wars per year. Over 30% that number corresponds to the City of Rio de Janeiro.
If Obama is friend of Hugo Chávez and yet received donations from Hamaz, he must be a friend of Lula, but he does not want our ethanol because he wants to make the sponsors of islamic terror coordinated by KGB even stronger.
McCain wants to approach Brazil to the USA. He and Palin want our ethanol, and we need other products from the USA that will enforce us to reduce taxes what will be great for the Brazilians. Cheap cars, cheaper energy, cheaper telephony, people will increase their income by spending less.
If you want to know the bonds of Lula with the command of FARC, please visit my blog. If some news report is not in English, call on me, and I will send you a translation.
America, be yourself, don't let the foreigners to command you. Brazil is an example of what America will become. Lula is giving huge portions of Brazilian states to UNO, and yet wants to create communist proletariates. And the media that is controlled by the PCdoB (Communist Party of Brazil) that created the PT, stays silent, fooling the faith of the people that pay the largest number of the most expensive taxes in the world.
This is Brazil, my fellows!
A Língua!
www.alingua.blogspot.com
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written by KevinMM, October 22, 2008
No Ben, you're wrong. While you're right that the law in effect in 1961 was amended in 1987 (not 1984), you're wrong about how this affects Ann Dunham and Barack Obama, as in the later version it says that for proviso G) (which is the one in question):
"This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date."
Obama was born in 1961, well after when this comes into effect.
"This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date."
Obama was born in 1961, well after when this comes into effect.
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written by Ben in TX, October 22, 2008
I'm not going to argue with you, you are simply incorrect. Read the filiings here that are a part of the case. This very topic has been discussed on this site numerous times and your conclusion was found incorrect every time. I'm not going to waste my time digging up the information for you and I don't really care if you think you are correct. You seem to want to believe whatever simply supports your position and not do any reading of the suit. You could also go to the Texas Darlin site and read a very detailed analysis of the Indonesian Law from author Judah Benjamin, but that will not support your conclusions either.
So just go ahead and "think" you are right, it's fine with me.
Good Bye!
Ben
So just go ahead and "think" you are right, it's fine with me.
Good Bye!
Ben
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written by Hot2Trot, October 22, 2008
ATTENTION: LEN REDMON
The gentleman who filed in Hawaii is Andy Martin. You can visit his blog at the link below (or click on my name):
http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/
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written by Terry136, October 22, 2008
You don't truly believe everything you read on the internet do you?
You Obots believe everything you read on the internet. That's why you think Obama's birth certificate on factcheck.org is legitimate. What proof do you have that Obama is eligible to be POTUS other than what you're read on the internet?
GOTCHA!!!!
Now, go back to the Daily Kos.
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written by Mr. Big, October 22, 2008
. . . having a Kenyan birth certificate for Obama?
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written by James, October 22, 2008
I hope that Berg has everything in play when Obama visits Hawaii tommorrow. Obama should scrutinized and all legal documents should under lock and key from Obama. Hawaii Officials should also be scrutinized.
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written by freedomfighter, October 22, 2008
OK Folks!
Lets think about this race...
Republicans and dems are just about 50-50 in this country, seeing the last two elections, it pretty much confirms as much.
Polls are mostly crap and may or may no mean anything.
Most republicans will vote republican and are scared to death of BO
Independent voters are half and half in the polls, but probably lean more republican, because if they are independent, then they might actually think about what is going on, or research the real policies.
Of democrats, many of which sided with Hillary exclusively, dont like Obama and are planning on voting for mccain because they feel cheated in the primaries. Another prtion of dems dont like the idea of a black man in the white house - racists perhaps.
So anyways, with republicans, more than half of independents and probably about 1/3 of democrats, we should have a wide margin for the win. I predict by 60% or more.
Notice how polls are getting tighter in many areas of the coutries? Polls typically favor dems by 10% - plus more for media bias. Just watch out for rioting in large urban areas, I suspect the koolaid drinkers will be grumpy during their withdrawl stages.
Lets think about this race...
Republicans and dems are just about 50-50 in this country, seeing the last two elections, it pretty much confirms as much.
Polls are mostly crap and may or may no mean anything.
Most republicans will vote republican and are scared to death of BO
Independent voters are half and half in the polls, but probably lean more republican, because if they are independent, then they might actually think about what is going on, or research the real policies.
Of democrats, many of which sided with Hillary exclusively, dont like Obama and are planning on voting for mccain because they feel cheated in the primaries. Another prtion of dems dont like the idea of a black man in the white house - racists perhaps.
So anyways, with republicans, more than half of independents and probably about 1/3 of democrats, we should have a wide margin for the win. I predict by 60% or more.
Notice how polls are getting tighter in many areas of the coutries? Polls typically favor dems by 10% - plus more for media bias. Just watch out for rioting in large urban areas, I suspect the koolaid drinkers will be grumpy during their withdrawl stages.
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written by Charlene, October 22, 2008
Does anyone know of the above scheduled for tonight?
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written by No Obama, October 22, 2008
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written by KevinMM, October 22, 2008
To Ben:
First off, the law says "was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years"
Hawaii, while not a state at the time, was an outlying possession of the United States. According to the law, two or more of the years she lived in the U.S (or its properties) must have been after she turned 14 (not 15 as you claim).
According to Wikipedia, Ann Dunham was born on November 29th, 1942. She would've turned 14 on November 29th, 1956. She moved to Hawaii from Kansas at the age of 17 in 1959. At this point, she would've spent three years above the age of 14 in the United States. Thus, she'd have already fulfilled the qualifications for the law in question, as she had spent more than five years in the U.S., two or more of them while over the age of 14.
Obviously, she's well over the minimum. Please try to be honest in clear cut matters of the law.
To wiswnn:
"If Barack Obama's mother married Mr. Sottoro, and they moved to Indonesia, and Mr. Sottoro adopted Barack, at that time was dual citizenship recognized?"
Indonesia does not legally recognize dual-citizenship. What this means that if you were, say, a Swedish/Ukranian and went to Indonesia for an extended period of time, they'd recognise you as only Swedish or Ukranian, not both. In the case of Barack Obama, they recognized him as an Indonesian, not as an Indonesian/American. U.S. law would still recognize Barack as an American citizen.
Barack Obama in fact couldn't lose his American citizenship due to his stepfather's actions. Parents cannot legally renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children, according to the government: http://travel.state.gov/law/ci...p_776.html. A minor child may do it himself, as well (obviously) as when they're legal adults.
"1. When Barack moved back to Hawaii, did he give up his Indonesian Citenzinship and become a U.S. Citizen again? "
Indonesian law requires that citizens declare their intent to keep their citizenship every five years or risk losing it. As Barack visited his mother and sister in Indonesia, and went to Pakistan, in 1981, it is reasonable to assume that his citizenship was still intact at this point. Barack had returned to Hawaii in 1971 at the age of ten, and visited his mother around the age of 19 or 20. As he was a minor for the previous period of renewal (1976), he did not need to actively renew his citizenship as he was still legally one simply through his father.
At the second period of renewal (1981), depending on the timing of everything Obama was either riding out the last few months of his valid passport/citizenship when he visited, or his citizenship had been renewed for another five year period.
Since then, there is no indication that Barack has maintained his citizenship for Indonesia, and thus we can assume it has been lost, making him solely an American citizen at this point
"2. Our laws state that the President Elect cannot have dual citizenship, is there proof he became a U.S. Citizen again? "
Irrelevant as Obama is no longer an Indonesian citizen, nor has never not been a U.S. citizen.
"3. Why is it that no one can find his passport records? He just took a world wide trip not to long ago. "
Because that's highly illegal if you're talking about what I think you're talking about.
Kevin some of what you said is true but if you had spent a little more time exploring that web sight you would have found this Quote, In some countries, marriage to a national of that country will automatically make the spouse either a citizen of that country or eligible to become naturalized in that country expeditiously. The automatic acquisition of a second nationality will not affect U.S. citizenship. However, naturalization in a foreign country on one''s own application or the application of a duly authorized agent may cause the loss of American citizenship. Malaysia is one of those countries that marriage to a Citizen of automatically loses their rights as a US Citizen. If adapted so do children of US Citizens although they retain the right to regain Citizenship between the ages of 18 and 21 after reciting the Oath of Allegiance upon entry into the US.
written by KevinMM, October 22, 2008
To Ben:
First off, the law says "was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years"
Hawaii, while not a state at the time, was an outlying possession of the United States. According to the law, two or more of the years she lived in the U.S (or its properties) must have been after she turned 14 (not 15 as you claim).
According to Wikipedia, Ann Dunham was born on November 29th, 1942. She would've turned 14 on November 29th, 1956. She moved to Hawaii from Kansas at the age of 17 in 1959. At this point, she would've spent three years above the age of 14 in the United States. Thus, she'd have already fulfilled the qualifications for the law in question, as she had spent more than five years in the U.S., two or more of them while over the age of 14.
Obviously, she's well over the minimum. Please try to be honest in clear cut matters of the law.
To wiswnn:
"If Barack Obama's mother married Mr. Sottoro, and they moved to Indonesia, and Mr. Sottoro adopted Barack, at that time was dual citizenship recognized?"
Indonesia does not legally recognize dual-citizenship. What this means that if you were, say, a Swedish/Ukranian and went to Indonesia for an extended period of time, they'd recognise you as only Swedish or Ukranian, not both. In the case of Barack Obama, they recognized him as an Indonesian, not as an Indonesian/American. U.S. law would still recognize Barack as an American citizen.
Barack Obama in fact couldn't lose his American citizenship due to his stepfather's actions. Parents cannot legally renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children, according to the government: http://travel.state.gov/law/ci...p_776.html. A minor child may do it himself, as well (obviously) as when they're legal adults.
"1. When Barack moved back to Hawaii, did he give up his Indonesian Citenzinship and become a U.S. Citizen again? "
Indonesian law requires that citizens declare their intent to keep their citizenship every five years or risk losing it. As Barack visited his mother and sister in Indonesia, and went to Pakistan, in 1981, it is reasonable to assume that his citizenship was still intact at this point. Barack had returned to Hawaii in 1971 at the age of ten, and visited his mother around the age of 19 or 20. As he was a minor for the previous period of renewal (1976), he did not need to actively renew his citizenship as he was still legally one simply through his father.
At the second period of renewal (1981), depending on the timing of everything Obama was either riding out the last few months of his valid passport/citizenship when he visited, or his citizenship had been renewed for another five year period.
Since then, there is no indication that Barack has maintained his citizenship for Indonesia, and thus we can assume it has been lost, making him solely an American citizen at this point
"2. Our laws state that the President Elect cannot have dual citizenship, is there proof he became a U.S. Citizen again? "
Irrelevant as Obama is no longer an Indonesian citizen, nor has never not been a U.S. citizen.
"3. Why is it that no one can find his passport records? He just took a world wide trip not to long ago. "
Because that's highly illegal if you're talking about what I think you're talking about.
Kevin some of what you said is true but if you had spent a little more time exploring that web sight you would have found this Quote, In some countries, marriage to a national of that country will automatically make the spouse either a citizen of that country or eligible to become naturalized in that country expeditiously. The automatic acquisition of a second nationality will not affect U.S. citizenship. However, naturalization in a foreign country on one''s own application or the application of a duly authorized agent may cause the loss of American citizenship. Malaysia is one of those countries that marriage to a Citizen of automatically loses their rights as a US Citizen. If adapted so do children of US Citizens although they retain the right to regain Citizenship between the ages of 18 and 21 after reciting the Oath of Allegiance upon entry into the US.
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written by LEN REDMON, October 22, 2008
Is there some rumor that the RNC has a Kenyan birth certificate for Obama? If that is true what and when do you think they will expose him in the big media?
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written by wqflagwaver, October 22, 2008
Len Redmon:
Andy Martin
all info and read history of the case on his blog (as well as on this site)
http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/
Andy Martin
all info and read history of the case on his blog (as well as on this site)
http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/
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written by iluvetheconstitution, October 22, 2008
There should be a decision from Judge Surrick either tomorrow or Friday!! See it over at Jeff Schreiber's blog:
"Space reserved for news on court order." http://www.americasright.com/
"Space reserved for news on court order." http://www.americasright.com/
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written by John C., October 22, 2008
This whole thing really p****** me off!! I just know that being a DEMOCRAT Surrick has stalled this thing so Berg has NO TIME before the election to make his next move so he can DISMISS ALL MOTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeff over at http://www.americasright.com Actually tried to explain why he felt that the case would be dismissed.
Nothing against Jeff. But his explanation really shows you how our CONSTITUTIONAL LAW thinks of us. He said that Berg's case has no standing because we as VOTERS cannot raise the issue of constitutional eligability JUST BECAUSE WE ARE VOTERS!!!!!!!!!!!
WELL WHO THE HELL CAN?????????????????????????????
Every SoS in states that have lawsuits filed on Obama has said talk to the DNC. They say they have NO CONTROL OVER ELIGABILITY ISSUES OF A CANDIDATE. Are you kidding me????
Diane Fienstien, when asked about just how they vetted Obama, says, "It's not my fault!" So who do we turn to to get this taken care of if Berg is unsuccessful????
Jeff over at http://www.americasright.com Actually tried to explain why he felt that the case would be dismissed.
Nothing against Jeff. But his explanation really shows you how our CONSTITUTIONAL LAW thinks of us. He said that Berg's case has no standing because we as VOTERS cannot raise the issue of constitutional eligability JUST BECAUSE WE ARE VOTERS!!!!!!!!!!!
WELL WHO THE HELL CAN?????????????????????????????
Every SoS in states that have lawsuits filed on Obama has said talk to the DNC. They say they have NO CONTROL OVER ELIGABILITY ISSUES OF A CANDIDATE. Are you kidding me????
Diane Fienstien, when asked about just how they vetted Obama, says, "It's not my fault!" So who do we turn to to get this taken care of if Berg is unsuccessful????
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written by John C., October 22, 2008
API is stalling on the tapes!!!!!!!!!!!! When, i should say if, the tapes ever get released they are going to FOXNEWS.
Now i know FOX has been the best at getting the whole truth out of Obama. However, they have had their hands in A NUMBER OF COVER-UPS AS WELL!!!!!!
Phil Berg, Jerome Corsi, Andy Martin, etc. have all been BANNED from FOX. Whats to say they will be any different with these tapes??
Please go to their site and implore them to release the tapes to a PUBLIC BLOG(not youtube in the tank for Obama they will take the videos down in less than 24hrs) so that ALL AMERICANS can hear them UNEDITED and base our own decision.
http://www.africanpress.wordpress.com
Now i know FOX has been the best at getting the whole truth out of Obama. However, they have had their hands in A NUMBER OF COVER-UPS AS WELL!!!!!!
Phil Berg, Jerome Corsi, Andy Martin, etc. have all been BANNED from FOX. Whats to say they will be any different with these tapes??
Please go to their site and implore them to release the tapes to a PUBLIC BLOG(not youtube in the tank for Obama they will take the videos down in less than 24hrs) so that ALL AMERICANS can hear them UNEDITED and base our own decision.
http://www.africanpress.wordpress.com
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written by americansright, October 22, 2008
Just in, go to www.americasright.com to see whats going on in this case. Judge is
about to rule. This web siet gives Bergs updates each day and very good info
on whats going on. You may like what is about to happen.
about to rule. This web siet gives Bergs updates each day and very good info
on whats going on. You may like what is about to happen.
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written by Renny, October 22, 2008
It says " IF POSSIBLE he will fool the elect, but that is not possible " yeah he could very well be the Antichrist. "It also says them that restrain will restrain until they are taken out" That would be us that believe in Christ. So I say get out and vote, pray and keep filing the suits and get the word out about him. Think about this Obama keeps saying he is going to set up his own " force or army" why would he need to do that??
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written by DZib, October 22, 2008
It is a sad state of affairs when a war hero (McCain) isn't routing the Manchurian Candidate. I believe George Soros operatives approached Obama and basically told him they would make him the president if he followed their direction. This is a subversion of our government and the only man who can save us is John McCain. Do you notice that his experience is never questioned, but they jump immediately to Palin's perceived lack of experience. McCain is a man of great integrity and that is exactly what we need right now. Obama is a lawyer. He never answers a question directly and seems to love the sound of his own voice. God help us (and the free world) if Obama wins. There is an agenda there and we won't know abou it until it's too late.
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written by it's ooh ooh over for ohoohbama, October 22, 2008
did old dominion file the lawsuit today?
Remember how b.ho was supposed to be in hawaii? well a journalist has footage of him in Virginia.
Remember how b.ho was supposed to be in hawaii? well a journalist has footage of him in Virginia.
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written by Ranger, October 22, 2008
WTF, is he going to make the press relese or what? If what he has to reliese is so important get it out already........
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written by Inquisitive, October 22, 2008
A friend just told me Michael Savage mentioned the Berg suit on his Savage Nation radio show this afternoon, and talked about Senator Obama's trip to Hawaii most likely related to his birth certificate. Supposedly also mentioned that this topic has been rampant on the internet.
I didn't catch the show. Did anyone hear it?
I didn't catch the show. Did anyone hear it?
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written by Brian, October 22, 2008
First your name gives you away. You are a socialist and know nothing about TRUTH...so quit pretending! If you folks cant steal this election, then you know you have no chance.
Second, Your messiah is facing some serious charges in Mr. Bergs lawsuit. Now he could make it all go away and make us all look like idiots by just producing the documents requested in the suit....but he refuses to do so. Why is that do you think?
Third, Sarah Palins AIP connection.....a leftist smear....admittedly by the very person who started the smear. Here is the link, from your own OBAMA PROPAGANDISTS at CBS NEWShttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories...9075.shtml...and a little bit more of that TRUTH that you know nothing about!
ALL AMERICANS??? Sir/Madam, in spite of your own ignorance, I don't wish an Obama presidency on any American!
Second, Your messiah is facing some serious charges in Mr. Bergs lawsuit. Now he could make it all go away and make us all look like idiots by just producing the documents requested in the suit....but he refuses to do so. Why is that do you think?
Third, Sarah Palins AIP connection.....a leftist smear....admittedly by the very person who started the smear. Here is the link, from your own OBAMA PROPAGANDISTS at CBS NEWShttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories...9075.shtml...and a little bit more of that TRUTH that you know nothing about!
ALL AMERICANS??? Sir/Madam, in spite of your own ignorance, I don't wish an Obama presidency on any American!
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written by "Susan the teacher", October 22, 2008
how could this happen? How can ANYONE be considered for the position of President OR Vice Presidental candidate without a background check? And is it so hard to verify an individuals birthplace? In part I blame the state of Illinois for allowing the untruth information regarding 'use of name' and other requirements to pass the bar. If they had caught the problem/untruth when it appeared then the country would not be in this much turmoil over his candidacy.
In addition to the problem of Mr. Obama not being qualified to run for President (that pesky natural born citizen thing) making the US look unprepared....the fact that we have let the situation come down to mere DAYS before the election before this was discovered is bound to make us a laughing stock in other countries. Can noone see the damage this is doing to the reputation of the US or is everyone so centered on slamming "Joe the Plumber" to see the forest for the trees?????
In addition to the problem of Mr. Obama not being qualified to run for President (that pesky natural born citizen thing) making the US look unprepared....the fact that we have let the situation come down to mere DAYS before the election before this was discovered is bound to make us a laughing stock in other countries. Can noone see the damage this is doing to the reputation of the US or is everyone so centered on slamming "Joe the Plumber" to see the forest for the trees?????
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written by Lilli, October 22, 2008
Failure to produce a document readily available, is one of the most telling aspects of this whole situation....If he had it, he should be more than happy to lay this issue to rest....
But, if, at this late date, he DOES produce a document, I want it carbon dated!!
But, if, at this late date, he DOES produce a document, I want it carbon dated!!
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written by Inquisitive, October 22, 2008
Just heard it for myself, tuned in to the Savage Nation show on the internet. Savage said he has the "alleged" birth certificate on his website and urged listeners to check it out. He also said, do you really think he's going to Hawaii to visit his grandmother with 10 days to go before the election? "NO, NO, NO".
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written by Jon in OR, October 22, 2008
Stop drinking the Kool Aid. I would love for this not to be true so we don't have riots in this country. We'll have riots if McCain wins, but this would set off such a riot as to burn down large parts of this country, literally. A very high percentage of black people believe the government created AIDS to wipe out blacks, how many would believe a court ruling against Obama as the effort of a racist, white America to stop a black man from becoming President.
A COLB just confirms that they have an affadavit of a Vault Birth Certificate or a copy of it. It is not a Birth Certificate, nor does it prove where the birth certificate is from. A birth announcement in the paper? Put in there by his Grandparents?
Why should he provide a vault BC and his medical records? To avoid getting a summary judgment against him in this case.To show transparency that every other candidate has shown. To put all this to rest as millions may use this case as a reason to vote against him, and in a close race it could make a difference. To show he has nothing to hide. To make sure if he does win, the number of Americans that think the Constitution has been violated is limited to a few conspiracy theory crazies. To avoid a repeat of 2000 with the Supreme Court deciding it and putting us into a crisis.
Again, if he was born in Hawaii there are hospital and county records documenting it. Not a COLB, actual records. So, unless they show something as damning as his birth being in Kenya, there's NO REASON NOT TO RELEASE THEM AND END THIS POTENTIAL NATIONAL CRISIS OF EPIC PROPORTIONS.
A COLB just confirms that they have an affadavit of a Vault Birth Certificate or a copy of it. It is not a Birth Certificate, nor does it prove where the birth certificate is from. A birth announcement in the paper? Put in there by his Grandparents?
Why should he provide a vault BC and his medical records? To avoid getting a summary judgment against him in this case.To show transparency that every other candidate has shown. To put all this to rest as millions may use this case as a reason to vote against him, and in a close race it could make a difference. To show he has nothing to hide. To make sure if he does win, the number of Americans that think the Constitution has been violated is limited to a few conspiracy theory crazies. To avoid a repeat of 2000 with the Supreme Court deciding it and putting us into a crisis.
Again, if he was born in Hawaii there are hospital and county records documenting it. Not a COLB, actual records. So, unless they show something as damning as his birth being in Kenya, there's NO REASON NOT TO RELEASE THEM AND END THIS POTENTIAL NATIONAL CRISIS OF EPIC PROPORTIONS.
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written by luvtheconstitution, October 22, 2008
The birth certificate issue is right on the top of the Savage Nation homepage.
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written by w00sh, October 22, 2008
ATTENTION LINDA STARR
Due to the delays in the release of the audio of Michelle Obama, there is naturally a HIGH degree of skepticism about the existence of the tape(s). Earlier today, Jeff at http://www.americasright.com reported that Mr. Berg’s office was working with API on the electronic transfer of the audio file(s). I called Mr. Berg today (approx 4 pm EST) and asked if his office was yet in posession of the file(s). Mr. Berg said he was no longer at the office but expected the transfer to be completed today. He said he would check when he returned to the office in the morning.
It would be VERY helpful if you could provide an IMMEDIATE update confirming that the files are in Mr. Berg’s posession. This would finally provide third-party confirmation of the existence of the audio recording(s).
If the files are not transferred by tomorrow, EVERYONE SHOULD RECOGNIZE API AS A HOAX once and for all!
Thank you!
Due to the delays in the release of the audio of Michelle Obama, there is naturally a HIGH degree of skepticism about the existence of the tape(s). Earlier today, Jeff at http://www.americasright.com reported that Mr. Berg’s office was working with API on the electronic transfer of the audio file(s). I called Mr. Berg today (approx 4 pm EST) and asked if his office was yet in posession of the file(s). Mr. Berg said he was no longer at the office but expected the transfer to be completed today. He said he would check when he returned to the office in the morning.
It would be VERY helpful if you could provide an IMMEDIATE update confirming that the files are in Mr. Berg’s posession. This would finally provide third-party confirmation of the existence of the audio recording(s).
If the files are not transferred by tomorrow, EVERYONE SHOULD RECOGNIZE API AS A HOAX once and for all!
Thank you!
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written by DB, October 22, 2008
Is it possible Barack is in Hawaii to get the vault copy of his birth certificate? Something I read said it would only be released to the individual or his family.
I really think that it's much more likely his legal name is something like Barry Edward, not Barack Hussein, and this is why he doesn't want it released and put forth a counterfeit COLB.
If you read Andy Martin's latest release about news conference, he mentions Senator Fong. Senator Fong was a Hawaiian Senator who changed his first name to Hiram (forget what his birth name was) to honor somebody.
What other connection could there be??
I really think that it's much more likely his legal name is something like Barry Edward, not Barack Hussein, and this is why he doesn't want it released and put forth a counterfeit COLB.
If you read Andy Martin's latest release about news conference, he mentions Senator Fong. Senator Fong was a Hawaiian Senator who changed his first name to Hiram (forget what his birth name was) to honor somebody.
What other connection could there be??
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written by Kay Buckels, October 22, 2008
John McCain was more than HAPPY to release HIS records and HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE! HE even had to go before the SENATE to prove HE was a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. I believe when this issue first came up, the focus was shifted to McCain so Obama never had to show his BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
However, little did Obama know, this issue wasn't going away! So, either put up or SHUT UP! IF the very man who wants to sit at the desk and be the PRESIDENT of the most powerful nation on earth and also be the TOP LAW ENFORCER in the land, then, he has a duty to ALL AMERICANS to produce his VAULT BIRTH CERTIFICATE WITH THE RAISED SEAL! He can't do it, then, he needs to be removed. PERIOD!
All you Obots, you would feel the same if McCain had never shown his birth certificate and his medical records since he was born in Panama. However, McCain was born to 2 military parents who were stationed in the Pamama at the time. THAT, making McCAIN a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES!
Now, all we want is the TRUTH! That is ALL we have ever wanted. AND, like anyone else, if OBAMA can't prove he is a United States "NATURAL BORN" Citizen, according to the qualifications set forth in the U.S. Constitution, then, he should have NEVER run for PRESIDENT. PERIOD! And don't give me the baloney that "Natural Born" isn't explained in the Constitution! IT was good enough for our FOUNDING FATHERS, it has WITHSTOOD THE TEST OF TIME, it is GOOD ENOUGH TODAY! "NATURAL BORN" means just that....."NATURAL BORN". End of discussion!
However, little did Obama know, this issue wasn't going away! So, either put up or SHUT UP! IF the very man who wants to sit at the desk and be the PRESIDENT of the most powerful nation on earth and also be the TOP LAW ENFORCER in the land, then, he has a duty to ALL AMERICANS to produce his VAULT BIRTH CERTIFICATE WITH THE RAISED SEAL! He can't do it, then, he needs to be removed. PERIOD!
All you Obots, you would feel the same if McCain had never shown his birth certificate and his medical records since he was born in Panama. However, McCain was born to 2 military parents who were stationed in the Pamama at the time. THAT, making McCAIN a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES!
Now, all we want is the TRUTH! That is ALL we have ever wanted. AND, like anyone else, if OBAMA can't prove he is a United States "NATURAL BORN" Citizen, according to the qualifications set forth in the U.S. Constitution, then, he should have NEVER run for PRESIDENT. PERIOD! And don't give me the baloney that "Natural Born" isn't explained in the Constitution! IT was good enough for our FOUNDING FATHERS, it has WITHSTOOD THE TEST OF TIME, it is GOOD ENOUGH TODAY! "NATURAL BORN" means just that....."NATURAL BORN". End of discussion!
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written by Melissa, October 22, 2008
...and none of them are saying anything about this latest development- not even FOX! Why is that?
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written by w00sh, October 22, 2008
This lawsuit won't be news unless the judge rules in Berg's favor.
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written by anonymous, October 22, 2008
A Wiki search of Mombasa, Kenya (Barack's theorized birthplace) reveals that Honolulu (Barack's alleged birthplace) is a sister city of Mombasa!
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written by VERY_Concerned_US_Citizen, October 22, 2008
Please, Please, Please Lawyer talk to Mr. Berg if you really feel that this case could be at risk. This case is SO IMPORTANT.
Thank you so much!
Mary
Thank you so much!
Mary
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written by JustMe, October 22, 2008
Alright I'm fully behind finding out the truth about this but honestly I don't think Berg or even Martin has a chance with both personally requesting to receive the documentation. I fully believe we have a right to know whether or not his citizenship is valid but with that said both these cases are requesting the release of the BC to regular citizens. Even a Presidential canidate should not have to offer personal info to every citizen & wackjob that requests it. It may just be wording but I think there would have been a better chance for demanding that the court itself receive and validate the BC.
Another point I think they would have been better off fighting the Indonessia citizenship. This is much easier to prove. Just think showing documenation that is already out that specifically states he was a citizen of another country. He would be forced to answer in order to clear himself rather then now where he is fighting it on the sole grounds of not having to present anything at all.
Another point I think they would have been better off fighting the Indonessia citizenship. This is much easier to prove. Just think showing documenation that is already out that specifically states he was a citizen of another country. He would be forced to answer in order to clear himself rather then now where he is fighting it on the sole grounds of not having to present anything at all.
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written by Paige, October 22, 2008
Anyone else getting the sinking feeling that Surrick might come down with a ruling in Berg's favor, but Obama has a fake certificate already and needs this trip to Hawaii to cover so that he can say he got it from grandma while he was there.
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written by Brian, October 22, 2008
He needs to produce a lot more than a BC to settle the lawsuit.
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written by BlueWater1949, October 22, 2008
Hey - those "wack jobs" are citizens and the president is their servant. This is about a stinking birth certificate - not a picture of his colon.
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written by Benito, October 22, 2008
Practically all of Berg's lawsuit points are being read on Michael Savage's radio show.
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written by Steve, October 22, 2008
I hade a feeling Savage would either have Berg on this week or next and right before I turned him on, he was talking about the fake COLB. Good for him!!
Now, I doubt Hannity would talk about this on his show, but The Savage Nation is a good start!! Lets pray for a rulling in Berg's favor tomorrow! If thats the case, then be ready for BHO to produce another fradulent Birth Certificate or whatever else he needs.
Now, I doubt Hannity would talk about this on his show, but The Savage Nation is a good start!! Lets pray for a rulling in Berg's favor tomorrow! If thats the case, then be ready for BHO to produce another fradulent Birth Certificate or whatever else he needs.
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written by Hopeful, October 22, 2008
I don't know why it is so hard for Phil to just give us one line tonight . . . "yes, I have the tapes in my possession and I have heard them" OR " No, I have not received the API tape yet".
Quite simply, really! We are dying to know, and I for one, won't sleep tonight until I know for sure.
Quite simply, really! We are dying to know, and I for one, won't sleep tonight until I know for sure.
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written by Philadelphia Roof Doctor, October 22, 2008
Sister Rosetta,
You wrote:
Does anyone know if Berg has responded to Hale's complaint? Or will he respond?
Do you have any information that Ed Hale filed a legal complaint? If so, where? Or was it Just Ed Hale running off at the mouth?
Ed is not going to do anything other than run his mouth about it.
I'm sure Phil is quaking in his boots, NOT!
You wrote:
Does anyone know if Berg has responded to Hale's complaint? Or will he respond?
Do you have any information that Ed Hale filed a legal complaint? If so, where? Or was it Just Ed Hale running off at the mouth?
Ed is not going to do anything other than run his mouth about it.
I'm sure Phil is quaking in his boots, NOT!
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written by Hopeful, October 22, 2008
Paige, if he gets a fake copy, you can be sure some expert will know it is fake!
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written by Brian, October 22, 2008
Somebody posted above that they are supposed to be sending Mr. Berg the tapes tonight.
He was not in his office and is going to check first thing in the morning for them.
He was not in his office and is going to check first thing in the morning for them.
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written by Steve, October 22, 2008
Just heard on good ol' Savage that a caller phoned in and stated something along the lines of "BO may do away with old granny" and then have everyone feel sorry for him, that is of course, after he does his dirty work with the papers!! Chilling, just chilling... Anything can happen with this man, hes strait out of the Chicago corrupt machine, but those aren't my words..!!!
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written by Scooby, October 22, 2008
FROM AMERICAS RIGHT -- Jeff Schreiber
"I have, from good and reliable sources, information suggesting that the Hon. R. Barclay Surrick will come down with an order and memorandum either on Thursday or Friday."
"I have, from good and reliable sources, information suggesting that the Hon. R. Barclay Surrick will come down with an order and memorandum either on Thursday or Friday."
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written by Benito, October 22, 2008
Savage says he has posted the Obama forged certificate of live birth on his web site and is talking about it in a big way. The web site is getting so many hits right now that I got an error that said "Too many connections". I have never seen this. This will now really start to get air time on the rest of the conservative radio and TV shows.
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written by who really cares now, October 22, 2008
BLAH BLAH BLAH, serious. I am getting sick of tommorow or Friday or this or that. All bullshit to me. I hope this would be true info on Obama because I think he is a snake. My question is why did this all come about in August? This nothing prix has been blowing smoke for 2 years now. NOW its important 2 weeks before election. Forgive me for wonder why.
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written by ecd, October 22, 2008
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/...03204a3f5a
Supreme Court [of Hawaii] Refuses to Order Release of Obama’s Original Birth Certificate
Supreme Court [of Hawaii] Refuses to Order Release of Obama’s Original Birth Certificate
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written by efarmer1990, October 22, 2008
For one thing obama is the anti-christ.
this is so unconstitutional. he should be removed from all public connections. he has no right no lie to the american people like this. he is not a canidate in my mind as it is, and then this. no this is wrong. this needs to be brought to the press and needs to be handled alot quicker.
this is so unconstitutional. he should be removed from all public connections. he has no right no lie to the american people like this. he is not a canidate in my mind as it is, and then this. no this is wrong. this needs to be brought to the press and needs to be handled alot quicker.
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written by anonymous, October 22, 2008
Not a surprise......after all, Hawaii can't release birth certificates that don't exist....
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written by tiza, October 22, 2008
What about this, I remember a census being taken near the end of Pres. Clinton's presidency. I just can't remember, what, was it 1999 or 2000? Whatever the case may be, don't they always list where you're born? I remember the list of questions that we were asked was mind-boggling. We had the long one. Seems like there were the short ones and the long ones. So I'm wondering if Obama and Michelle had their census taken, say, in Chicago? I think they were married in Oct. of '92, maybe, but we can figure it all out. When I've searched census before, it's always been the older ones for genealogy purposes. What do y'all think?
tiza
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written by idiotnoir, October 22, 2008
does it mean the court is struggling to resolve the case? do they recognise there is some urgency involved? if the case had no merit, wouldn't they send it back right away? can anything be read into the timing?
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written by Wild Bill, October 22, 2008
The Virginia lawsuit (actually a Petition for Writ of Mandamus) was filed today. Ironically, we almost missed filing and serving due to the thousands of people downtown today to see Obama speak. In even better news, the Honorable Walter W. Stout III, the chief judge, granted our motion for an emergency hearing and set a briefing schedule. We were required to serve the Board of Elections a copy of the schedule today (which we did). We must file our brief and all supporting evidence on Friday. The Board of Elections has until the 28th to file a response. We may file a reply on the 29th and the hearing will be held on the 30th at 1:30p.m.
We did send copies of the suit and orders to the local media, but unlike some people, we are more interested in pursuing the legal battle, not whoring ourselves out to the media. For that same reason we are not setting up a website or soliciting donations.
We will let you know how things progress.
We did send copies of the suit and orders to the local media, but unlike some people, we are more interested in pursuing the legal battle, not whoring ourselves out to the media. For that same reason we are not setting up a website or soliciting donations.
We will let you know how things progress.
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written by David08, October 22, 2008
In Hawaii they are run by a bunch of corrupt politicians and America haters. The native rich farmers call the shots and if you grease their palms anything can happen. Brother.
The racism there is like Obama and his so called church. Haole.
They are constantly trying to turn themselves into a reservation or leave America all together.
The racism there is like Obama and his so called church. Haole.
They are constantly trying to turn themselves into a reservation or leave America all together.
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written by idiotnoir, October 22, 2008
he could have started to manipulate the documents back then, or picked it up if it existed.
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written by idiotnoir, October 22, 2008
he could have started to manipulate the documents back then, or picked it up if it existed.
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written by David08, October 22, 2008
Savage finally came around today.
It's either the RINO or the Anti-Christ. All these jackasses suggesting voting for third party candidates are...
Jackasses trying to get votes for their Anti-Christ. Evil is what evil does.
It's either the RINO or the Anti-Christ. All these jackasses suggesting voting for third party candidates are...
Jackasses trying to get votes for their Anti-Christ. Evil is what evil does.
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written by Merry, October 22, 2008
I pray this is NOT A PLOY by an attorney to actually get him off from actaully not being an American Citizen. I have never thought he was a Citizen You never know what to expect anymore. There are so many loopholes in the screwed up laws of late. Nothing surprises me anymore.
Here's the video:
http://www.americanpatrol.com/MISCNEWS/2006-UP/ELECTIONS/2008/OBAMA/OctSurpriseVideo081012.html
Here's the video:
http://www.americanpatrol.com/MISCNEWS/2006-UP/ELECTIONS/2008/OBAMA/OctSurpriseVideo081012.html
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written by idiotnoir, October 22, 2008
I took my 12y.o. son to compete in a national sporting event, we traveled all the way across country to compete, we forgot our BC, as did many other parents, we had the passport, not good enough, had to be the original BC. you should have seen the families scrambling to get the BC overnighted in time for the event, and many kids were not allowed to participate.
If this is what we do for a kids sporting event, isn't it reasonable to ask obamma to produce his BC?
If this is what we do for a kids sporting event, isn't it reasonable to ask obamma to produce his BC?
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written by VERY_Concerned_US_Citizen, October 22, 2008
Please, Please, Please Lawyer talk to Mr. Berg if you really feel that this case could be at risk. This case is SO IMPORTANT.
Thank you!
Mary
Thank you!
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written by VERY_Concerned_US_Citizen, October 22, 2008
Is there anything that can be done to watch Obama while he is visiting in Hawaii? I just hoping and praying that this case will stick! Thank you for everything that is being done.
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written by Paige, October 22, 2008
Any chance Andy Martin and his "camera crew" could stay in Hawaii a few extra days?!
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written by anonymous, October 22, 2008
Andy Martin should have had his press conference already.........where is the information?
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written by Mike Schnezler, October 22, 2008
Just heard the press release from Hawaii.
States Obama is the son of Frank Marshall Davis!!! OMG! This changes everything if true!
States Obama is the son of Frank Marshall Davis!!! OMG! This changes everything if true!
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written by Jake, October 22, 2008
I just talked to Andy Martin on the phone, don't bug him as he said he is having lunch and preparing to post the news conference transcripts. I hope it is good and factual data! When I called him he said "I have not enough money, and I am not thin enough, what can you help me with?" I laughed and told him as a runner and fitness buff, I could probable take a few pounds off him! Keep checking the website, he said it might be about an hour....
Jake
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written by gotcitizenship, October 22, 2008
Berg's main contention and proof centers around his adoption to Indonesian Lolo Soetoero.
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written by Paige, October 22, 2008
Even though most of it is about the challenge to McCain's eligibility, there is a paragraph about Berg v. Obama.
http://www.michiganlawreview.org/firstimpressions/vol107/tokaji.htm
Further down the article:
It is conceivable that a comparable state-court lawsuit could be filed, in Pennsylvania or another swing state, to challenge a presidential candidate’s constitutional qualifications to serve. There is no requirement that a plaintiff in a state-court lawsuit meet the Article III or prudential requirements for standing. Further, the federal political question doctrine does not bar statecourt litigation seeking to exclude a presidential candidate from the ballot on the ground that he or she is ineligible. It is also conceivable that a statecourt case challenging a presidential candidate’s eligibility could be brought after an election. State law might allow a post-election contest of primary or general election results on the ground that the candidate who gained the most votes does not meet the qualifications for office. A losing presidential candidate could bring a contest petition in state court, seeking an order invalidating the election results if state law allows such a remedy.
http://www.michiganlawreview.org/firstimpressions/vol107/tokaji.htm
Further down the article:
It is conceivable that a comparable state-court lawsuit could be filed, in Pennsylvania or another swing state, to challenge a presidential candidate’s constitutional qualifications to serve. There is no requirement that a plaintiff in a state-court lawsuit meet the Article III or prudential requirements for standing. Further, the federal political question doctrine does not bar statecourt litigation seeking to exclude a presidential candidate from the ballot on the ground that he or she is ineligible. It is also conceivable that a statecourt case challenging a presidential candidate’s eligibility could be brought after an election. State law might allow a post-election contest of primary or general election results on the ground that the candidate who gained the most votes does not meet the qualifications for office. A losing presidential candidate could bring a contest petition in state court, seeking an order invalidating the election results if state law allows such a remedy.
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written by anonymous, October 22, 2008
It may not really change anything legally, but it would certainly pile on more evidence to the charge of Obama being a pathological liar.
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written by Friends of the REPUBLIC, October 22, 2008
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written by anonymous, October 22, 2008
I found a copy of the transcript here: http://community.mccainspace.c...41158.html
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written by Merry, October 22, 2008
Seems I heard the one he submitted didn't have a "seal" on the back of it.
No wonder he's going to see her.......
His grandmother could lie and say she was there when he was born and he was born in Hawaii, in order to obtain a birth certificate, but it would be considered a "delayed" birth certificate. Her testimony that he was actually born in Hawaii would work. Don't know if that would suffice the legal aspects of this lawsuit though.?????
Hawaii vital records:
"Hawai'i law states that only the person whom the record is concerned with, or a spouse, parents, descendant or someone with a common ancestor, can obtain a copy of a vital record. In addition, someone acting on behalf of the person — a personal representative or adoptive parents — can obtain a vital record. A copy could also be obtained via court order.
However, Okubo said, "If someone from Obama's campaign gave us permission in person and presented some kind of verification that he or she was Obama's designee, we could release the vital record.""
No wonder he's going to see her.......
His grandmother could lie and say she was there when he was born and he was born in Hawaii, in order to obtain a birth certificate, but it would be considered a "delayed" birth certificate. Her testimony that he was actually born in Hawaii would work. Don't know if that would suffice the legal aspects of this lawsuit though.?????
Hawaii vital records:
"Hawai'i law states that only the person whom the record is concerned with, or a spouse, parents, descendant or someone with a common ancestor, can obtain a copy of a vital record. In addition, someone acting on behalf of the person — a personal representative or adoptive parents — can obtain a vital record. A copy could also be obtained via court order.
However, Okubo said, "If someone from Obama's campaign gave us permission in person and presented some kind of verification that he or she was Obama's designee, we could release the vital record.""
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written by anonymous, October 22, 2008
This actually isn't a totally new theory......check out this blog post from September: http://astuteblogger.blogspot....obama.html
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written by it's ooh ooh over for ohoohbama, October 22, 2008
Dear World:
There is one thing you don't want to talk about but you will fight about: this is religion.
We are not taught cultural antrhopology from day one nor are we encouraged to learn about each others religion.
I've always loved all people world and through my "liberal" love parade I met people from EVERY religion.
What I've learned: at the basis we are all people. With this being said: it is naive of those of us w/ judeo christian roots to believe that every religion has the "do unto others".
Sunni Islam mandates it's people to lie.
Iran WILL attack us under Obama. Sunni and Shi'ite HATE each other
if you don't believe me: listen to ADFX21 on Youtube's interview w' a PROMINENT shi'ite in the mid east.
He calls us "crazy (at minute 3) for electing a terrorist" the girl asks: who: he says "like binladen: obama"
I suggest you learn the facts before your own good qualities (tolerance and racial equality) are exploited in your face.
There is one thing you don't want to talk about but you will fight about: this is religion.
We are not taught cultural antrhopology from day one nor are we encouraged to learn about each others religion.
I've always loved all people world and through my "liberal" love parade I met people from EVERY religion.
What I've learned: at the basis we are all people. With this being said: it is naive of those of us w/ judeo christian roots to believe that every religion has the "do unto others".
Sunni Islam mandates it's people to lie.
Iran WILL attack us under Obama. Sunni and Shi'ite HATE each other
if you don't believe me: listen to ADFX21 on Youtube's interview w' a PROMINENT shi'ite in the mid east.
He calls us "crazy (at minute 3) for electing a terrorist" the girl asks: who: he says "like binladen: obama"
I suggest you learn the facts before your own good qualities (tolerance and racial equality) are exploited in your face.
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written by it's ooh ooh over for ohoohbama, October 22, 2008
Dear World:
There is one thing you don't want to talk about but you will fight about: this is religion.
We are not taught cultural antrhopology from day one nor are we encouraged to learn about each others religion.
I've always loved all people world and through my "liberal" love parade I met people from EVERY religion.
What I've learned: at the basis we are all people. With this being said: it is naive of those of us w/ judeo christian roots to believe that every religion has the "do unto others".
Sunni Islam mandates it's people to lie.
Iran WILL attack us under Obama. Sunni and Shi'ite HATE each other
if you don't believe me: listen to ADFX21 on Youtube's interview w' a PROMINENT shi'ite in the mid east.
He calls us "crazy (at minute 3) for electing a terrorist" the girl asks: who: he says "like binladen: obama"
I suggest you learn the facts before your own good qualities (tolerance and racial equality) are exploited in your face.
There is one thing you don't want to talk about but you will fight about: this is religion.
We are not taught cultural antrhopology from day one nor are we encouraged to learn about each others religion.
I've always loved all people world and through my "liberal" love parade I met people from EVERY religion.
What I've learned: at the basis we are all people. With this being said: it is naive of those of us w/ judeo christian roots to believe that every religion has the "do unto others".
Sunni Islam mandates it's people to lie.
Iran WILL attack us under Obama. Sunni and Shi'ite HATE each other
if you don't believe me: listen to ADFX21 on Youtube's interview w' a PROMINENT shi'ite in the mid east.
He calls us "crazy (at minute 3) for electing a terrorist" the girl asks: who: he says "like binladen: obama"
I suggest you learn the facts before your own good qualities (tolerance and racial equality) are exploited in your face.
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written by too many coincidences, October 22, 2008
so we have mobassa kenya sister city to honolulu Hawaii
and el dorado, ks vs. eldoret kenya
WHAT IS GOING ON
and el dorado, ks vs. eldoret kenya
WHAT IS GOING ON
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written by Dean, October 22, 2008
If Frank Davis is actually his father, wouldn't that then give him two parents who were US citizens--even if he is was born in Kenya?
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written by anonymous, October 22, 2008
I believe the answer is no, because his mother was too young to qualify under that rule. Someone please verify, but I believe that is the case.
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written by w00sh, October 22, 2008
Dean,
The real citizenship issue is the adoption of his Indonesian step-dad, which could mean dual citizenship = non-natural born citizen.
The real citizenship issue is the adoption of his Indonesian step-dad, which could mean dual citizenship = non-natural born citizen.
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written by Chris H., October 22, 2008
I might be a little naive, but if all this is true, how was Obama able to serve in the Senate for the last 4 years with no proof of citizenship? Why has this issue not been brought out until now?
He's attended and taught at some of most prestigious universities in the country......
Did the "powers that be" within these institutions never require or even ask for any kind of proof of citizenship??
If all this is true, I would think the media would be all over it.......why aren't they?
I use to think my vote counted for something; however, if presidential candidates, or any elected officials for that matter, are able to get away with side stepping these very basic requirements, it really doesn't mater how I vote.
He's attended and taught at some of most prestigious universities in the country......
Did the "powers that be" within these institutions never require or even ask for any kind of proof of citizenship??
If all this is true, I would think the media would be all over it.......why aren't they?
I use to think my vote counted for something; however, if presidential candidates, or any elected officials for that matter, are able to get away with side stepping these very basic requirements, it really doesn't mater how I vote.
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written by w00sh, October 22, 2008
You can serve in the Senate as a NATURALIZED citizen, but the rule is more strict for POTUS. You must be a NATURAL-BORN citizen to be president.
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written by Full Nelson, October 22, 2008
Yes it would make him a US citizen but that doesn't change the fact that he lost it when moving to Indonesia.
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written by Dean, October 22, 2008
I believe the answer is no, because his mother was too young to qualify under that rule. Someone please verify, but I believe that is the case.
I'm thinking that only applies if one parent is a US a citizen and the other is foreign. Both parents citizens=automatic citizenship. And I understand that the larger issue is actually the Indonesian scenario.
I'm thinking that only applies if one parent is a US a citizen and the other is foreign. Both parents citizens=automatic citizenship. And I understand that the larger issue is actually the Indonesian scenario.
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written by Dean, October 22, 2008
Although, if both parents being citizens guarantees citizenship, then why was McCain's ever questioned in the first place? Wasn't his "settled" because he was born at a military base?
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written by tiza, October 22, 2008
Then let us have hope that Obama does not become a president. Your hope for your side of the world, and our hope for ours.
And I'm putting the mental hold on this Davis father stuff. I'll just wait and see. It's an awfully strange turn of events, but I don't think that it takes away from another issue, which is, was he a U.S. natural born citizen or what, is he still a U.S. Citizen? Many questions to be answered. I'll just wait and see.
And I'm putting the mental hold on this Davis father stuff. I'll just wait and see. It's an awfully strange turn of events, but I don't think that it takes away from another issue, which is, was he a U.S. natural born citizen or what, is he still a U.S. Citizen? Many questions to be answered. I'll just wait and see.
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written by pam, October 22, 2008
Does anyone know when the "Stop the Obama Constitutional Crisis petition" will have enough signatures to be presented? And how do they go about doing this? Thanks!
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written by Dean, October 22, 2008
I notice they've taken Andy's piece down from the McCain site.
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written by Marjo, October 22, 2008
http://www.aim.org/aim-report/...xist-mole/
In this article (dated March of this year) it's already suggested there may be a father/son relationship. This is getting weirder by the minute.
In this article (dated March of this year) it's already suggested there may be a father/son relationship. This is getting weirder by the minute.
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written by Hopeful, October 22, 2008
Here is what I would do. You know people can get those machines that can record/hear conversations from a distance. I would get a vehicle and sit outside Obama’s grandmothers place while he is there, listening to the conversation. I don’t live in Hawaii, but are there any takers?
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written by pam, October 22, 2008
Hopeful, great idea but the secret service would not let anyone near the place.
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written by Ken Trainer, October 22, 2008
Andy Martin needs to stay in Hawaii. the judge refuses to give his decision over the phone or in absentia. The judge wants Andy in the court room to get the judges decision.
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written by Ken Trainer, October 22, 2008
Hire a first class private detective in Hawaii.
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written by Hopeful, October 22, 2008
Here is what I would do. You know people can get those machines that can record/hear conversations from a distance. I would get a vehicle and sit outside Obama’s grandmothers place while he is there, listening to the conversation. I don’t live in Hawaii, but are there any takers?
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written by Hopeful, October 22, 2008
Here is what I would do. You know people can get those machines that can record/hear conversations from a distance. I would get a vehicle and sit outside Obama’s grandmothers place while he is there, listening to the conversation. I don’t live in Hawaii, but are there any takers?
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written by The Hawk, October 22, 2008
I heard rumors of this before. So, this will mean that Obama may actually be a "natural born" citizen after all if this is true.
But he will be a natural born citizen to Davis, a dedicated Communist and Anti-American writer. That won't help at all. And what about Barry Soetoro? There is so much more to this.
And all the lies that Obama has told along the way, and then there is the forged birth certificate. This could be huge if it is true. And it would certainly cost him the election.
The next ten days will sure be interesting.
But he will be a natural born citizen to Davis, a dedicated Communist and Anti-American writer. That won't help at all. And what about Barry Soetoro? There is so much more to this.
And all the lies that Obama has told along the way, and then there is the forged birth certificate. This could be huge if it is true. And it would certainly cost him the election.
The next ten days will sure be interesting.
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written by Nancy P, October 22, 2008
I do not believe that Congress will be back in session until well after the election. Besides the congress does not control the election process. that petition is only for show not for action.
If you want action then join a lawsuit in your state to have Obama removed from the ballot. that is doing something positive.
If you want action then join a lawsuit in your state to have Obama removed from the ballot. that is doing something positive.
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written by anonymous, October 22, 2008
It should be noted that Frank Marshall Davis also spent some time in Chicago...............far too many coincidences, if you ask me.
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written by Mr. Kane, October 22, 2008
So there is a 5th case now? Does anybody happen to have any links to the Virginia case? I can't seem to find anything about it.
From what I can gather of the case, I think at this point the best argument to go forward with is the Indonesian issue, specifically as it relates to his travels in Pakistan. Under the assumptions listed, assumptions 18-23 are quite telling. Now Obama going to Pakistan at this time doesn't seem important in of itself. However, I remembered that Zia had declared marshall law in 1979 which lasted until around 87 I believe, both because of the situation with the coup, and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. So the no travel zone for Americans makes perfect sense. Unless Obama was a CIA agent training Mujahadeen in Pakistan to fight a guerrilla war against the Soviets, he would have had no legitimate business there as an American. Which then it turn means that he either entered the country illegally and remained undetected, which suggests a history of being prone to breaking national laws, or he entered legally under a foreign passport from a country that was recognized as Muslim, i.e. Indonesia.
Furthermore, this is far from conspiracy theory. Obama even admitted to traveling to Pakistan in 81. That means either he was their on legitimate US sponsored business, which he wasn't, he was visiting relatives, or it means he used a foreign passport from a recognized Muslim country, and he himself at least pretended he was a Muslim in order to enter Pakistan.
-Mr. Kane
From what I can gather of the case, I think at this point the best argument to go forward with is the Indonesian issue, specifically as it relates to his travels in Pakistan. Under the assumptions listed, assumptions 18-23 are quite telling. Now Obama going to Pakistan at this time doesn't seem important in of itself. However, I remembered that Zia had declared marshall law in 1979 which lasted until around 87 I believe, both because of the situation with the coup, and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. So the no travel zone for Americans makes perfect sense. Unless Obama was a CIA agent training Mujahadeen in Pakistan to fight a guerrilla war against the Soviets, he would have had no legitimate business there as an American. Which then it turn means that he either entered the country illegally and remained undetected, which suggests a history of being prone to breaking national laws, or he entered legally under a foreign passport from a country that was recognized as Muslim, i.e. Indonesia.
Furthermore, this is far from conspiracy theory. Obama even admitted to traveling to Pakistan in 81. That means either he was their on legitimate US sponsored business, which he wasn't, he was visiting relatives, or it means he used a foreign passport from a recognized Muslim country, and he himself at least pretended he was a Muslim in order to enter Pakistan.
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written by Friends of the REPUBLIC, October 22, 2008
OBAMA.........CONGENITAL LIAR
HILLARY.......PATHOLOGICAL LIAR
BIDEN...........PLAGIARIST
EDWARDS.....SCUMBAG LIAR ..............PATERN?........YES ALL OPPORTUNISTICS LIARS/LAWYERS
HILLARY.......PATHOLOGICAL LIAR
BIDEN...........PLAGIARIST
EDWARDS.....SCUMBAG LIAR ..............PATERN?........YES ALL OPPORTUNISTICS LIARS/LAWYERS
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written by The Hawk, October 22, 2008
Most people who visit this site and make comments are not racists, nor do they hate anyone. They're mostly concerned citizens who believe Barack Obama has a a pattern of deception that is catching up to him.
I have never heard anyone on any of these boards make racist rants or hateful declaration. If your "dear leader" would have put this issue to rest nineteen months ago he wouldn't be dealing with it right now.
Did you ever care to think why your "dear leader" hasn't put this issue to rest? Where there is smoke there is usually fire.
I have never heard anyone on any of these boards make racist rants or hateful declaration. If your "dear leader" would have put this issue to rest nineteen months ago he wouldn't be dealing with it right now.
Did you ever care to think why your "dear leader" hasn't put this issue to rest? Where there is smoke there is usually fire.
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written by Nancy P, October 22, 2008
A "Frank" question
written by Dean, October 22, 2008
Although, if both parents being citizens guarantees citizenship, then why was McCain's ever questioned in the first place? Wasn't his "settled" because he was born at a military base?
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Another trick by Obama. The resolution was to allow all foreign born to be president. It was done to help Obama but he was not able to get a passage removed. The passage was a sentence about McCain being born in Panama etc. This of course did not apply to Obama and so it never came to pass.
The resolution as it reads is specific to McCain. Obama tried like hell to make it general to all people or all senators. but failed. Obama was one of the drafters of the resolution. just about the only thing he did but does not want to talk about it. too hot to handle.
In reality McCain was already vetted in 2000 and 2004 and did not need 2008. The resolution was brought by all Democrats. Obama included. Now why did the Democrats and Obama try to get this resolution. It was to help Obama. It is proof that the Dems have known of Obama's problem for years and tried to cover it up.
Let me say with the Dems everything is the opposite of what they say. lower taxes. hahaha. They will go through the roof.
student help on tuition has been dropped.
health care will be dropped.
draft will be started and ALL college students males and females will have to go through the military.
We are going to be in big problems if Obama gets in. big problems.
Biden warned us. Within 6 months a very big problem will come up and the American public will not like Obama's solution to the crisis. He refers to an internation crisis probably a war.
Obama is going to crush America and bankrupt us so he can change the constitution and declare military rule. bye bye America. Hello Russia and Sunni Muslims.
Terrorists are sunni muslims. Obama is a sunni muslim in Indonesia.
written by Dean, October 22, 2008
Although, if both parents being citizens guarantees citizenship, then why was McCain's ever questioned in the first place? Wasn't his "settled" because he was born at a military base?
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Another trick by Obama. The resolution was to allow all foreign born to be president. It was done to help Obama but he was not able to get a passage removed. The passage was a sentence about McCain being born in Panama etc. This of course did not apply to Obama and so it never came to pass.
The resolution as it reads is specific to McCain. Obama tried like hell to make it general to all people or all senators. but failed. Obama was one of the drafters of the resolution. just about the only thing he did but does not want to talk about it. too hot to handle.
In reality McCain was already vetted in 2000 and 2004 and did not need 2008. The resolution was brought by all Democrats. Obama included. Now why did the Democrats and Obama try to get this resolution. It was to help Obama. It is proof that the Dems have known of Obama's problem for years and tried to cover it up.
Let me say with the Dems everything is the opposite of what they say. lower taxes. hahaha. They will go through the roof.
student help on tuition has been dropped.
health care will be dropped.
draft will be started and ALL college students males and females will have to go through the military.
We are going to be in big problems if Obama gets in. big problems.
Biden warned us. Within 6 months a very big problem will come up and the American public will not like Obama's solution to the crisis. He refers to an internation crisis probably a war.
Obama is going to crush America and bankrupt us so he can change the constitution and declare military rule. bye bye America. Hello Russia and Sunni Muslims.
Terrorists are sunni muslims. Obama is a sunni muslim in Indonesia.
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written by Citizen, October 22, 2008
Writ of mandamus denied……………….
So is Martin just running his theory pass everyone, WTH going on ?.
So is Martin just running his theory pass everyone, WTH going on ?.
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written by Mr. Kane, October 22, 2008
He was able to do it because there are no background checks for politicians at that level. The FBI never does background checks on any Congressional candidates or Presidential candidates. They do however do background checks on politicians who are nominated for specific Congressional committees, for security reasons.
The people responsible for verifying his qualifications either were lazy and never did it, or intentionally have not done the check because they want him to win.
I think the worst part of all of this is this whole thing is far from a conspiracy theory. Many of the facts presented in Berg's case are known facts. Many of the laws that are put in place to make sure a candidate is qualified have not been enforced, and this is known for a fact as well. All you have to do is go to the various posts of people who have called their various Secretaries of State in their respective state to find out more about this whole thing and most of the response have come back either as they didn't even know about it, they thought it was dismissed, or they weren't going to check. Assuming all these people actually did make these calls, I would say that is very telling of the people who we entrust these responsibilities with. Regardless of how people are voting in this election, or how they feel about this, all Americans deserve to know the truth.
As Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. said in his April 30th, 1967 speech at Ebenezer Baptist Church, "He who lives with untruth lives in spiritual slavery. Freedom is still the bonus we receive for knowing the truth. 'Ye shall know the truth,' says Jesus, 'and the truth shall set you free.'"
-Mr. Kane
The people responsible for verifying his qualifications either were lazy and never did it, or intentionally have not done the check because they want him to win.
I think the worst part of all of this is this whole thing is far from a conspiracy theory. Many of the facts presented in Berg's case are known facts. Many of the laws that are put in place to make sure a candidate is qualified have not been enforced, and this is known for a fact as well. All you have to do is go to the various posts of people who have called their various Secretaries of State in their respective state to find out more about this whole thing and most of the response have come back either as they didn't even know about it, they thought it was dismissed, or they weren't going to check. Assuming all these people actually did make these calls, I would say that is very telling of the people who we entrust these responsibilities with. Regardless of how people are voting in this election, or how they feel about this, all Americans deserve to know the truth.
As Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. said in his April 30th, 1967 speech at Ebenezer Baptist Church, "He who lives with untruth lives in spiritual slavery. Freedom is still the bonus we receive for knowing the truth. 'Ye shall know the truth,' says Jesus, 'and the truth shall set you free.'"
-Mr. Kane
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written by Caroline, October 22, 2008
Did you notice #2....vetted when running for the Senate"....WHEN THE RULES ARE DIFFERENT. Someone has passed the buck!!!!....more likely MANY have passed the buck thinking the other guy verified it!
God help us!
God help us!
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written by John C., October 22, 2008
Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read ‘Vote Obama, I need the money.’ I laughed.
Once in the restaurant my server had on a ‘Obama 08′ tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference–just imagine the coincidence.
When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need–the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.
I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I ‘ve decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.
At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient needed money more.
I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.
Once in the restaurant my server had on a ‘Obama 08′ tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference–just imagine the coincidence.
When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need–the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.
I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I ‘ve decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.
At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient needed money more.
I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.
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written by Caroline, October 22, 2008
Sorry somehow first part of my post didn't make it. Somehere here posted this today and I didn't get the username:
#1 I have tried my senators and representatives - all of the offices (Schumer, Clinton, Slater) have said this is not their responsibility! They say take it up with the DNC
#2 I spoke with a staff member of Howard Dean who informed me that Sen. Obama was vetted when running for the Senate therefore the DNC did not need to repeat!!!! Further discussion was impossible since they hung up on me!
#3 I called into Rush Limbaugh's show and the screener said they would not deal on air with "fringe cases."
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Did you notice #2....vetted when running for the Senate"....WHEN THE RULES ARE DIFFERENT. Someone has passed the buck!!!!....more likely MANY have passed the buck thinking the other guy verified it!
God help us!
#1 I have tried my senators and representatives - all of the offices (Schumer, Clinton, Slater) have said this is not their responsibility! They say take it up with the DNC
#2 I spoke with a staff member of Howard Dean who informed me that Sen. Obama was vetted when running for the Senate therefore the DNC did not need to repeat!!!! Further discussion was impossible since they hung up on me!
#3 I called into Rush Limbaugh's show and the screener said they would not deal on air with "fringe cases."
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Did you notice #2....vetted when running for the Senate"....WHEN THE RULES ARE DIFFERENT. Someone has passed the buck!!!!....more likely MANY have passed the buck thinking the other guy verified it!
God help us!
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written by Rick From Washington, October 22, 2008
If Andy can prove his statement of Obama's true father being Frank Marshall Davis, that would throw out the natural born aspect of the case, but of course the Indonesia citizenship could still be a problem
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written by ecd, October 22, 2008
An there is also the fake birth certificate in factchecks...
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written by sissie, October 22, 2008
Hey gang,
I saw on obamacrimes home page that berg has filed yet another motion with the courts to declare that obama admitted to all 50+ accusations, and that the DNC admitted to all 27 complaints,
please help me put all of this in perspective, this is how I interpret it...
1. berg filed initial lawsuit listing 56 complaints that obama was supposed to answer within 30 days, DNC had to answer all 26 of their complaints. This lawsuit also requested all documents to be produced. This motion was filed on set. 15th?
2. obama filed a motion to dismiss on the grounds that berg had no case.
3. Berg filed a motion against the motion to dismiss and once again asked for documents t be produced.
4. obama filed a motion for stay of discovery until the motion to dismiss was ruled against.
5. berg filed a response to the stay of discovery.
6. berg filed a motion for an expidited ruling on the document #3.
7. What berg is now saying is that there has been no ruling from the court on the motion to dismiss, or the motion for stay of discovery, then the original motion filed (#1 on this list) is still in effect and the 30 days have now passed which means that since no answer by obama has been filed, obama has admitted to the accusations by default?
So his last motion filed is asking the court to uphold issue #1.
Does this sound fairly accurate, if I am missing something, or are in error on any of these, please let me know.
Also, and more importantly, was the #1 issue ever signed by the judge before berg sent it to obama's attorneys. Was this actually ordered by the courts before berg sent it to obama?
Jim
I saw on obamacrimes home page that berg has filed yet another motion with the courts to declare that obama admitted to all 50+ accusations, and that the DNC admitted to all 27 complaints,
please help me put all of this in perspective, this is how I interpret it...
1. berg filed initial lawsuit listing 56 complaints that obama was supposed to answer within 30 days, DNC had to answer all 26 of their complaints. This lawsuit also requested all documents to be produced. This motion was filed on set. 15th?
2. obama filed a motion to dismiss on the grounds that berg had no case.
3. Berg filed a motion against the motion to dismiss and once again asked for documents t be produced.
4. obama filed a motion for stay of discovery until the motion to dismiss was ruled against.
5. berg filed a response to the stay of discovery.
6. berg filed a motion for an expidited ruling on the document #3.
7. What berg is now saying is that there has been no ruling from the court on the motion to dismiss, or the motion for stay of discovery, then the original motion filed (#1 on this list) is still in effect and the 30 days have now passed which means that since no answer by obama has been filed, obama has admitted to the accusations by default?
So his last motion filed is asking the court to uphold issue #1.
Does this sound fairly accurate, if I am missing something, or are in error on any of these, please let me know.
Also, and more importantly, was the #1 issue ever signed by the judge before berg sent it to obama's attorneys. Was this actually ordered by the courts before berg sent it to obama?
Jim
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written by Dean, October 22, 2008
The Indonesian aspect notwithstanding, this should just provide more insight into the level of deceit and secretiveness of BHO--not a real presidential trait (unless you factor in Bubba). I can hear "O" now, "I did not have family relations with Frank Marshall Davis."
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written by Caroline, October 22, 2008
Bonnie,
Do you have a law degree? I know the answer is, "NO"
Then may I say you don't have a CLUE what you are talking about.
Berg is stating a specific LAW when he says they "have admitted."
They have omitted by omission of not replying in the legal timeframe allowed .
Do you really want a president that could have dual loyalites? How bout your guy just show the **** PROOF! and quit messing with OUR CONSTITUTION!
Do you have a law degree? I know the answer is, "NO"
Then may I say you don't have a CLUE what you are talking about.
Berg is stating a specific LAW when he says they "have admitted."
They have omitted by omission of not replying in the legal timeframe allowed .
Do you really want a president that could have dual loyalites? How bout your guy just show the **** PROOF! and quit messing with OUR CONSTITUTION!
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written by anonymous, October 22, 2008
Andy finally updated his site with the press release: http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/
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written by Lynda, October 22, 2008
We need to see a Judge's sig on something. If Nobama has nothing to hide then he needs to produce it. Why no sig by a Judge on these motions? Is the Judge being paid off? Obama just prouduce what is asked of you an end this mess. What will happen if he's elected and then it's proven he is not a US citizen?
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written by Dean, October 22, 2008
Andy writes, "Ironically, what I have to say today dilutes the ‘Muslim’ theory that has propagated. Davis was not a Muslim."
Wait a sec . . . that doesn't dilute the Indonesian documents about his muslim schooling.
Wait a sec . . . that doesn't dilute the Indonesian documents about his muslim schooling.
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written by anonymous, October 22, 2008
I suppose he means that, if correct, then Obama was born with no Muslim connections. But yes, the media has the document proving he was registered as a Muslim in Indonesia.
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written by Rick From Washington, October 22, 2008
The Judge in this case is expected to make a ruling on this case on Thursday or Friday. We just need to wait and see what that ruling will be. All I can say is that based upon other cases, Berg's case will probably be dismissed because the Judge will rule Berg does not have standing for this case. Of course, we are all hoping for a different ruling as Berg did try to prove his standing in this case.
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written by Dobe, October 22, 2008
This would make a very sad human story, if Andy is right...
In a way, I would feel for Obama, and as a son of true black American father, now somehow I feel cheated that he would have no right to become first black US president.
Really this would be very unfortunate twist of events.
I like to keep thinking he is not an US citizen, have ties to the terrorists, and would turn USA in to socialism.
dobe
In a way, I would feel for Obama, and as a son of true black American father, now somehow I feel cheated that he would have no right to become first black US president.
Really this would be very unfortunate twist of events.
I like to keep thinking he is not an US citizen, have ties to the terrorists, and would turn USA in to socialism.
dobe
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written by Rick From Washington, October 23, 2008
Andy Martin made this statement without having any tangible proof. He needs to back up his statement with some proof. He also lost his court case in Hawaii to get a vault copy of the Birth Certificate. He is doing this to sell books.
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written by RoboTech, October 23, 2008
Andy writes, "Ironically, what I have to say today dilutes the ‘Muslim’ theory that has propagated. Davis was not a Muslim."
Wait a sec . . . that doesn't dilute the Indonesian documents about his muslim schooling.
Dude, IF this is true, being in Indonesia is the LEAST of Obama's worries.
He's been LYING about EVERYTHING all this time!
He's NOT who he says he is!
Not even his NAME!
It's FRAUD!
IF what Martin says is true, he needs to concede NOW before this becomes a worst situation for him.
Wait a sec . . . that doesn't dilute the Indonesian documents about his muslim schooling.
Dude, IF this is true, being in Indonesia is the LEAST of Obama's worries.
He's been LYING about EVERYTHING all this time!
He's NOT who he says he is!
Not even his NAME!
It's FRAUD!
IF what Martin says is true, he needs to concede NOW before this becomes a worst situation for him.
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written by Ben in TX, October 23, 2008
with Rick. It's easy to say but how will Martin prove it? I think it doesn't pass the smell test.
As for the "vault" birth certificate ...... what the heck does it say? Was it tampered with? What exactly is Martin saying?
I'm not buying into the Davis stuff just like I'm holding judgement on the API tapes. SHOW ME THE PROOF!!
Ben
As for the "vault" birth certificate ...... what the heck does it say? Was it tampered with? What exactly is Martin saying?
I'm not buying into the Davis stuff just like I'm holding judgement on the API tapes. SHOW ME THE PROOF!!
Ben
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written by James, October 23, 2008
If Berg is Ruled against he plans to Appeal possibily all the way to the US Supreme Court.
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written by Ben in TX, October 23, 2008
I don't expect it to be totally dismissed. I think the inclusion of Finestein in the amended filing was the saving grace for the case. She IS responsible for vetting and didn't. Since she didn't do her job the court may step in to see it is done.
Just my guess. I could be wrong, it's happened before.
Ben
Just my guess. I could be wrong, it's happened before.
Ben
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written by Rick From Washington, October 23, 2008
If no ruling is made and the case is dismissed for no standing, I believe, there is no right to appeal.
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written by James, October 23, 2008
Don't bet on Rick. Knowing Philip Berg, this aint over. He is going to fight. Philip Berg is an American Hero for stating up for our Constitution.
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written by Gabrielle Brothers, October 23, 2008
Once again Obama is above the law, does not answer his lawsuit. Great teaching for the young Americans. It would seem to me that by not answering it is an admission of guilt. If it was one of us we would have been dealt with long ago.
Mr. Berg please do not stop your inquest. You are a true American and I admire your courage. Please don't hesitate to contact me for signatures. We need more Americans like you.
Gaby
Mr. Berg please do not stop your inquest. You are a true American and I admire your courage. Please don't hesitate to contact me for signatures. We need more Americans like you.
Gaby
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written by Dean, October 23, 2008
The only thing he lost was on his motion for the higher court to order the lower court to hear the case earlier than Nov. 7. The actual motions about the birth certificate have not been argued yet. He is expected by the court to personally appear on Nov. 7 to argue his case. Granted, it would have been nice for it to have been heard now--but, the fact remains, he didn't lose on his original motion to the lower court. And, lest you think that Nov. 7 is too late, the president is not actually elected until Jan. 6 when the electoral college convenes.
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written by Teri Hanson, October 23, 2008
I found this email address on the lastest of Phil Berg's motions. It is for Benjamin Streeter who is an attorney for the Federal Elections (FEC). Maybe a few well worded emails sent his way would speed up the process. Here is his email
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I found it by going to www.Justia.com and then entering search words "obama birth" I think it was the 4th item down. Anyway if you click on it and then scroll though you will find the docket listings and see that there has been quite a bit of activity today and if you click on the number you can pull up the actual documents.
I found it by going to www.Justia.com and then entering search words "obama birth" I think it was the 4th item down. Anyway if you click on it and then scroll though you will find the docket listings and see that there has been quite a bit of activity today and if you click on the number you can pull up the actual documents.
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written by Cassie, October 23, 2008
So really nothing has happened because the Judge has not ruled on any of the motions, right? So it is exactly where it has been from the begining, filed! Let me know when the Judge rules on a motion. As long as he does not rule, or set a date for a hearing Obama wins! Fox news blog on Gretawire tonight they said the lawsuit is "bogus." My guess, Judge will rule it as frivolous and dismiss it after the election. Sad but true.
Your website is impossible! Fix it and maybe people will rally but that too is doubtful in our present environment.
Cassie
Your website is impossible! Fix it and maybe people will rally but that too is doubtful in our present environment.
Cassie
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written by Dean, October 23, 2008
The only thing in your post that really has merit is your comment about this website. I have maintained that Phil & Co. would be much better served by setting up a forum whereby folks could comment. This constantly adding to a "Comments" section is quite archaic.
But, if this is all we get, it's all we get. There are far greater issues at hand here.
But, if this is all we get, it's all we get. There are far greater issues at hand here.
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written by Polarik, October 23, 2008
The request for Barack Obama's "Vault" birth certificate will come back as "N/A"
There is no original US birth certificate for Obama. There is no birth record on file in Hawaii bearing one of Obama's names. There is no birth record on file anywhere in the US.
Andy Martin (whom I've said is out for the glory and to cop a piece of Berg's hard work late in the game) made a major mistake in asking for the "vault" birth certificate, or even a certified COLB.
Had he requested the Letter of Verification instead, he probably would have had that request honored if he could show a direct and tangible need for it -- which is that the 100 million people who are planning to vote for Obama, can only cast their vote for a Presidential candidate who cannot prove that he is a natural born citizen, or even someone NOT born in a foreign country.
My prediction on Berg's suit?
Obama will be forced to provide proof of his birth, at a minimum, and when cannot, the judge will declare him ineligible to become POTUS.
Then, the DNC will have no other choice than to remove Obama's name from the ballot.
Now, that's change!
There is no original US birth certificate for Obama. There is no birth record on file in Hawaii bearing one of Obama's names. There is no birth record on file anywhere in the US.
Andy Martin (whom I've said is out for the glory and to cop a piece of Berg's hard work late in the game) made a major mistake in asking for the "vault" birth certificate, or even a certified COLB.
Had he requested the Letter of Verification instead, he probably would have had that request honored if he could show a direct and tangible need for it -- which is that the 100 million people who are planning to vote for Obama, can only cast their vote for a Presidential candidate who cannot prove that he is a natural born citizen, or even someone NOT born in a foreign country.
My prediction on Berg's suit?
Obama will be forced to provide proof of his birth, at a minimum, and when cannot, the judge will declare him ineligible to become POTUS.
Then, the DNC will have no other choice than to remove Obama's name from the ballot.
Now, that's change!
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written by Dobe, October 23, 2008
I agree with Gaby, the truth have to be told, no matter what it is.
Everybody knows by now, that there are truths hidden, and enough suspicious activities to alert anybody with senses.
I think it would be very unfortunate and dangerous if judge will ignore this, and decide to keep us guessing and speculating until elections.
dobe
Everybody knows by now, that there are truths hidden, and enough suspicious activities to alert anybody with senses.
I think it would be very unfortunate and dangerous if judge will ignore this, and decide to keep us guessing and speculating until elections.
dobe
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written by Glen Thomas, October 23, 2008
Can all of this Berg, API, Martin, and Obama going to Hawaii be a later October surprise? It seems that with all the denials and Obama/DNC/FEC fighting this, don't you think that a major network like Drudge/FOX News come out next week exposing all that has happened the last three months? Not to get any answers, but to add to the stir.
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written by OBAMA IS THE SON OF COMMUNIST DAVIS BENT ON COMMUNIST T, October 23, 2008
THE TRUTH IS COMING OUT
BARRY'S FATHER TAUGHT HIM HOW TO DO A COMMUNIST TAKEOVE
THE FBI CALLED IT THE DAVIS PLAN
Barack Obama Groomed By New Party Radicals For Socialist Puppet Regime
The following is an article written as a comment by one of our visitors, Marion Valentine. Marion is a shining example of a very rare breed these days — a true American Patriot.
The Davis Plan and Connections to Obama
In 1963, while serving in Navy Intelligence (from 1958-1967), I read the FBI file on Frank Marshall Davis. He had outlined the Communist plan to take over America from within, by installing educators at all levels of our educational system, gaining control of the media, getting Liberal judges appointed, recruiting, training and backing people to be elected to public office.
I have researched every piece of legislation I can find that the Liberal Democrats have passed since the early sixties, and if you will research for yourself, you will find that they have been slowly moving this country towards Socialism.
When Obama announced he was running for President as an unknown with only one major speech at the DNC (that the DNC and MSM made so much fuss over), he aroused my old Intel suspicions. So I started researching.
I have not found any evidence to convince me he is a Muslim, but I did find his radical associations were unusual. I found that Frank Marshall Davis, who had fled from Chicago to Hawaii in 1958 because of the FBI investigation, met Obama in Hawaii when Obama was 12 years old, and was Obama’s mentor from then till Davis died in 1987.
Davis put Obama in touch with the Socialist Party in Chicago (called the New Party) which Ayers is also a member of, therefore the first “Planned” contact with Ayres. The New Party helped launch and finance Obama’s political Career. Obama…..selected, trained, groomed, and scripted to become the “puppet” leader of the United Socialist States of America.
Since I am in the 4th and final stage of congestive heart failure and will be lucky to live long enough to see the next President take office, why should this election matter to me? Why does Obama’s statement, that he wants a "National Civilian Security Force" as strong and as well-funded as our military (conjuring up images of the old-style USSR police state) matter to me?
IT’S SIMPLE… I LOVE AMERICA
contributors.blogsome.com/2008/10/09/god-bless-you-marion-valentine/
BARRY'S FATHER TAUGHT HIM HOW TO DO A COMMUNIST TAKEOVE
THE FBI CALLED IT THE DAVIS PLAN
Barack Obama Groomed By New Party Radicals For Socialist Puppet Regime
The following is an article written as a comment by one of our visitors, Marion Valentine. Marion is a shining example of a very rare breed these days — a true American Patriot.
The Davis Plan and Connections to Obama
In 1963, while serving in Navy Intelligence (from 1958-1967), I read the FBI file on Frank Marshall Davis. He had outlined the Communist plan to take over America from within, by installing educators at all levels of our educational system, gaining control of the media, getting Liberal judges appointed, recruiting, training and backing people to be elected to public office.
I have researched every piece of legislation I can find that the Liberal Democrats have passed since the early sixties, and if you will research for yourself, you will find that they have been slowly moving this country towards Socialism.
When Obama announced he was running for President as an unknown with only one major speech at the DNC (that the DNC and MSM made so much fuss over), he aroused my old Intel suspicions. So I started researching.
I have not found any evidence to convince me he is a Muslim, but I did find his radical associations were unusual. I found that Frank Marshall Davis, who had fled from Chicago to Hawaii in 1958 because of the FBI investigation, met Obama in Hawaii when Obama was 12 years old, and was Obama’s mentor from then till Davis died in 1987.
Davis put Obama in touch with the Socialist Party in Chicago (called the New Party) which Ayers is also a member of, therefore the first “Planned” contact with Ayres. The New Party helped launch and finance Obama’s political Career. Obama…..selected, trained, groomed, and scripted to become the “puppet” leader of the United Socialist States of America.
Since I am in the 4th and final stage of congestive heart failure and will be lucky to live long enough to see the next President take office, why should this election matter to me? Why does Obama’s statement, that he wants a "National Civilian Security Force" as strong and as well-funded as our military (conjuring up images of the old-style USSR police state) matter to me?
IT’S SIMPLE… I LOVE AMERICA
contributors.blogsome.com/2008/10/09/god-bless-you-marion-valentine/
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written by TejasKat, October 23, 2008
Here's a link I found a few days ago. Send an email to Congress to "Stop the Obama Constitutional Crisis"
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/stop-obama-constitutional-crisis
I don't recall where I found this link -- I've looked at SO MANY -- ha! This may already be posted.
Good goin' Philip Berg! Thanks! The American People need SOMEONE to step-up for us.
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/stop-obama-constitutional-crisis
I don't recall where I found this link -- I've looked at SO MANY -- ha! This may already be posted.
Good goin' Philip Berg! Thanks! The American People need SOMEONE to step-up for us.
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written by Linda Starr in TX, October 23, 2008
DRUMROLL PLEASE!!!!!
- 59,408,768 or 5,156,749 in 24 hours
- 59,408,768 or 5,156,749 in 24 hours
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written by Dave M, October 23, 2008
Linda,
Do you know if the API audio was received at Berg's office today?
Thanks!
Do you know if the API audio was received at Berg's office today?
Thanks!
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written by Dean, October 23, 2008
VIRAL STATS as of 11:30 pm Oct 22, 2008 -
written by Linda Starr in TX, October 23, 2008
DRUMROLL PLEASE!!!!!
- 59,408,768 or 5,156,749 in 24 hours
And the faulty stats continue! I love this site--but you're still posting erroneous information! Please show us your web statistic documentation when you post these numbers.
written by Linda Starr in TX, October 23, 2008
DRUMROLL PLEASE!!!!!
- 59,408,768 or 5,156,749 in 24 hours
And the faulty stats continue! I love this site--but you're still posting erroneous information! Please show us your web statistic documentation when you post these numbers.
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written by John Raye, October 23, 2008
Hi everyone
Andy's case shot down:
http://hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?540ca50a-154d-4000-bf5e-ce03204a3f5a
Andy's case shot down:
http://hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?540ca50a-154d-4000-bf5e-ce03204a3f5a
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written by Dean, October 23, 2008
Hey Moron,
Scroll up and read some previous posts. The judge just refused to grant "expedited status" to the case. NO SHOOT DOWN at all--wake up. The case is still set to be heard on Nov. 7.
Scroll up and read some previous posts. The judge just refused to grant "expedited status" to the case. NO SHOOT DOWN at all--wake up. The case is still set to be heard on Nov. 7.
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written by pam, October 23, 2008
Supreme Court Refuses to Order Release of Obama’s Original Birth Certificate
The Hawaii Supreme Court has denied efforts by mainland political columnist Andy Martin to obtain a copy of Barack Obama’s original Hawaiian birth certificate. See the full ruling here:
http://www.state.hi.us/jud/opinions/sct/2008/29414ord.pdf
The Hawaii Supreme Court has denied efforts by mainland political columnist Andy Martin to obtain a copy of Barack Obama’s original Hawaiian birth certificate. See the full ruling here:
http://www.state.hi.us/jud/opinions/sct/2008/29414ord.pdf
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written by OBAMA IS THE SON OF COMMUNIST DAVIS BENT ON COMMUNIST T, October 23, 2008
It's obvious to me that Barry is the son of Davis, and he doesn't want the fact that he's perpetuated a knowing fantasmagorical fictional LIE of intrigue and psychopathy for decades to be known...
So let's say he IS a US Citizen, just also an Indonesian Citizen. We won't have proof of that outside of a birth certificate (vault) or a DNA test.
I say let's offer destitute Nairobi George $1,000 for some spit and compare that to an 0bama restaurant fork after he eats a slice of that pie he's always talking about. DNA does not lie.
Maybe he was planning on winning the election, then revealing his birth certificate with the fact that Frank Marshall Davis was his listed father, or no father...hoping that forging the COLB is forgivable etc.
THE PROBLEM IS DAVIS WAS A RUSSIAN SPY AND COMMUNIST AND AUTHOR OF WHAT THE FBI CALLED "THE DAVIS PLAN" FOR A COMMUNIST TAKEOVER OF AMERICA.
DAVIS INTRO'D BARRY TO CHICAGO AND AYERS, AND THAT'S WHY HE WENT TO OCCIDENTAL AND COLUMBIA.
BARRY IS FOLLOWING DAVIS' PLAN TO A "T" AND PLANS TO DISTRUBUTE AMERICA'S WEALTH WORLDWIDE, NOT EVEN JUST IN-COUNTRY, ANDTO RUN AYER'S NEOSTALINIST REVOLUTION WHERE AYERS PRESCRIBES EXECUTING 25 MILLION AMERICANS WHO CANNOT BE REEDUCATED (FBI INTERVIEWS WITH WEATHER UNDERGROUND)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6jqvgjRle8&feature;=related
www.contributors.blogsome.com/2008/10/09/god-bless-you-marion-valentine/
So let's say he IS a US Citizen, just also an Indonesian Citizen. We won't have proof of that outside of a birth certificate (vault) or a DNA test.
I say let's offer destitute Nairobi George $1,000 for some spit and compare that to an 0bama restaurant fork after he eats a slice of that pie he's always talking about. DNA does not lie.
Maybe he was planning on winning the election, then revealing his birth certificate with the fact that Frank Marshall Davis was his listed father, or no father...hoping that forging the COLB is forgivable etc.
THE PROBLEM IS DAVIS WAS A RUSSIAN SPY AND COMMUNIST AND AUTHOR OF WHAT THE FBI CALLED "THE DAVIS PLAN" FOR A COMMUNIST TAKEOVER OF AMERICA.
DAVIS INTRO'D BARRY TO CHICAGO AND AYERS, AND THAT'S WHY HE WENT TO OCCIDENTAL AND COLUMBIA.
BARRY IS FOLLOWING DAVIS' PLAN TO A "T" AND PLANS TO DISTRUBUTE AMERICA'S WEALTH WORLDWIDE, NOT EVEN JUST IN-COUNTRY, ANDTO RUN AYER'S NEOSTALINIST REVOLUTION WHERE AYERS PRESCRIBES EXECUTING 25 MILLION AMERICANS WHO CANNOT BE REEDUCATED (FBI INTERVIEWS WITH WEATHER UNDERGROUND)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6jqvgjRle8&feature;=related
www.contributors.blogsome.com/2008/10/09/god-bless-you-marion-valentine/
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written by IreneNY, October 23, 2008
why was Any Martin's case shot down? It is so frustrating that nothing sticks to this man! he is teflon I swear.
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written by Dean, October 23, 2008
HOLY CRAP!
Before you post your idiodic drivel, please read the hundreds of previous posts. Andy's case is still set to be heard in Hawaii on Nov. 7, Phil's case is still solid as yo mamma, and nothin' else much has changed (other than Obama's name--now Frank Marshall Davis, Jr.) Momma's a slut, Daddy's a Communist, Wife's a frickin' idiot. Please, Barry, just go home to Indonesia.
Before you post your idiodic drivel, please read the hundreds of previous posts. Andy's case is still set to be heard in Hawaii on Nov. 7, Phil's case is still solid as yo mamma, and nothin' else much has changed (other than Obama's name--now Frank Marshall Davis, Jr.) Momma's a slut, Daddy's a Communist, Wife's a frickin' idiot. Please, Barry, just go home to Indonesia.
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written by Sal, October 23, 2008
Well there it is, Obamas father was the communist.
He was having underage sex with Anne Obamas mom.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2601914/Frank-Marshall-Davis-alleged-Communist-was-early-influence-on-Barack-Obama.html
He was having underage sex with Anne Obamas mom.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2601914/Frank-Marshall-Davis-alleged-Communist-was-early-influence-on-Barack-Obama.html
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written by daniel, October 23, 2008
I am so upset with Hillary. She had all this information and did not bring it forward. If BO drops out now and Hillary jumps in there, I will still not support her as before. She should have done her duty for the USA. Country First. But she failed to do that along with many others. Ticked in Texas.
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written by richardsh, October 23, 2008
Andy's theory is indeed intriguing and something I had thought briefly about before. But Andy is making this assertion as though it has been proven. Really? What are his sources? What is the proof?
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written by Mr. Kane, October 23, 2008
Like I posted before, the best argument Berg has to keep this trial in play is the Indonesian/Pakistan issue. It is clear at one point Barry did become an Indonesian citizen. No whether or not the dual citizenship aspect applies or not, Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981 on an Indonesian passport, since there is no possible way he could have gotten in with a US passport because of the fact that Pakistan was and had already been under martial law for two years prior. The only way Obama could have to traveled to Pakistan under a US passport was by being there on official US government business which I highly doubt since he was still in college. The only way really that he could have been there as a US citizen was if he was a CIA agent training Mujhadeen to fight the Russians....highly doubtful.
The Indonesian/Pakistan issue is where this case lies.
Quick question, I know for a fact that Pakistan was under martial law from 1979 to about 86 or 88, however I have yet to officially find a no travel advisory for Pakistan during that period of time. It is safe to assume that this was the case, since Pakistan bordered a war zone and was the training grounds for a CIA/Saudi funded guerrilla army however this being a court case, all proof is necessary. Anybody have any advisories or news clippings from that period saying foreigners were not welcome?
-Mr. Kane
The Indonesian/Pakistan issue is where this case lies.
Quick question, I know for a fact that Pakistan was under martial law from 1979 to about 86 or 88, however I have yet to officially find a no travel advisory for Pakistan during that period of time. It is safe to assume that this was the case, since Pakistan bordered a war zone and was the training grounds for a CIA/Saudi funded guerrilla army however this being a court case, all proof is necessary. Anybody have any advisories or news clippings from that period saying foreigners were not welcome?
-Mr. Kane
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written by Rick Wilson, October 23, 2008
If Andy Martin is correct, then we have another serious issue besides the possibility that Obama II/Marshal, Jr. was born in Africa, adopted in Indonesia, etc., which are still very possibly true based on the existing evidence.
The new alleged problem is that no one by the name "BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA II" exists. If true, all of the ballots printed are invalid. Further, the primary election ballots are invalid (REPEAT, only if this is true).
This also opens up a Pandora's box of other problems. For example, applications filled out by Obama II/Marshal, Jr., either have incorrect name(s) or failed to report all names. It's way too early to figure any of this part out. Remember once again: this is ALLEGED information and I for one would like to see the original birth certificate, and as much background information as possible to get to the truth. Any vintage documents will have to be examined by a number of experts from both sides to verify that they are indeed from 1961 or their purported time. We don't want anyone pulling a CBS!
Another problem, which to me is and has been obvious, is that someone has created a counterfeit birth certificate and it is on several Obama websites as well as factcheck and snopes. This is a CRIMINAL issue. Although this is a poor counterfeit, if you check U.S. Law for example, passing a poor counterfeit bill is still criminal. Many people have sent money to the campaign in question. This birth certificate was in fact used as a tool to give authenticity to the campaign in question, and is therefore the basis of a FRAUD.
The new alleged problem is that no one by the name "BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA II" exists. If true, all of the ballots printed are invalid. Further, the primary election ballots are invalid (REPEAT, only if this is true).
This also opens up a Pandora's box of other problems. For example, applications filled out by Obama II/Marshal, Jr., either have incorrect name(s) or failed to report all names. It's way too early to figure any of this part out. Remember once again: this is ALLEGED information and I for one would like to see the original birth certificate, and as much background information as possible to get to the truth. Any vintage documents will have to be examined by a number of experts from both sides to verify that they are indeed from 1961 or their purported time. We don't want anyone pulling a CBS!
Another problem, which to me is and has been obvious, is that someone has created a counterfeit birth certificate and it is on several Obama websites as well as factcheck and snopes. This is a CRIMINAL issue. Although this is a poor counterfeit, if you check U.S. Law for example, passing a poor counterfeit bill is still criminal. Many people have sent money to the campaign in question. This birth certificate was in fact used as a tool to give authenticity to the campaign in question, and is therefore the basis of a FRAUD.
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written by Obamacrimes, October 23, 2008
www.libertas.bigblog.com.au/da...130550.jpg
This appears to be nude photos of Stanley Anne Dunham taken in what is probably Frank Marshall Davis' apartment ca 1960?
Barry Davis' real problems may actually be:
1) A forged certificate of live birth
2) Redundant lies about his identity and family due to Davis' Soviet-spy and FBI "Davis Plan" communist takeover issues.
3) A remaining Indonesian citizenship (divided loyalties).
I predict Barry Davis will want to only have his vault birth certificate revealed to certain court officials sworn to secrecy, only to verify that he is a US citizen, and he will try to explain away his forged COLB by saying he didn't know about his parentage, he was lied to, etc.
But he knows, and his latest jaunt to Hawaii makes that exceedingly obvious.
If his vault birth certificate is to be revealed, it must be so IN THE OPEN.
His very identity needs to be challenges as he has had at least 3 names, up to 5 names. We do not even know his legal name.
If he wins the election, I'm sure he's counting on glossing over the illegaities.
Here are other links about the resemblance to Davis:
www.astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/09/obamas-real-father-connecting-dots.html
www.astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/obamas-first-trip-to-kenya-wasnt-until.html
This appears to be nude photos of Stanley Anne Dunham taken in what is probably Frank Marshall Davis' apartment ca 1960?
Barry Davis' real problems may actually be:
1) A forged certificate of live birth
2) Redundant lies about his identity and family due to Davis' Soviet-spy and FBI "Davis Plan" communist takeover issues.
3) A remaining Indonesian citizenship (divided loyalties).
I predict Barry Davis will want to only have his vault birth certificate revealed to certain court officials sworn to secrecy, only to verify that he is a US citizen, and he will try to explain away his forged COLB by saying he didn't know about his parentage, he was lied to, etc.
But he knows, and his latest jaunt to Hawaii makes that exceedingly obvious.
If his vault birth certificate is to be revealed, it must be so IN THE OPEN.
His very identity needs to be challenges as he has had at least 3 names, up to 5 names. We do not even know his legal name.
If he wins the election, I'm sure he's counting on glossing over the illegaities.
Here are other links about the resemblance to Davis:
www.astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/09/obamas-real-father-connecting-dots.html
www.astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/obamas-first-trip-to-kenya-wasnt-until.html
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written by Obamacrimes, October 23, 2008
Here is the full link
www.astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naughty-obama-mamma.html
www.astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naughty-obama-mamma.html
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written by RoboTech, October 23, 2008
What does this mean?
Why does it show so ordered here?
Is this partof Berg's motion?
or, be still my beating heart, has the Judge ruled Obama not eligible?
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/27/
False Alarm? if so, why would Berg put the first part in his motion. Isn't this something that the Judge would do?
Why does it show so ordered here?
Is this partof Berg's motion?
or, be still my beating heart, has the Judge ruled Obama not eligible?
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/27/
False Alarm? if so, why would Berg put the first part in his motion. Isn't this something that the Judge would do?
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written by RoboTech, October 23, 2008
Keep getting panicky over "nothing".
You sound like a little girl. I love it when a lefty goes ballistic over something they "claim" is nothing LOL!
If it's not true, nothing changes. We vote and move on.
But if it's true, and I hope it is, then YOU move on. Or commit suicide.
But why anyone would commit suicide over the Pig called Obama, is beyond me.
You sound like a little girl. I love it when a lefty goes ballistic over something they "claim" is nothing LOL!
If it's not true, nothing changes. We vote and move on.
But if it's true, and I hope it is, then YOU move on. Or commit suicide.
But why anyone would commit suicide over the Pig called Obama, is beyond me.
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written by Philadelphia Roof Doctor, October 23, 2008
RoboTech,
That is simply the way motions are written. The attorneys always file a proposed order for the Judge to sign as a part of the motion. It means absolutely nothing unless/until the Judge signs it.
At the present time, there has been absolutely NO ruling by the Judge.
That is simply the way motions are written. The attorneys always file a proposed order for the Judge to sign as a part of the motion. It means absolutely nothing unless/until the Judge signs it.
At the present time, there has been absolutely NO ruling by the Judge.
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written by RoboTech, October 23, 2008
Not being an Attorney, I just didn't know.
But I kinda thought it was a little too simple for a Judge's opinion.
Thanx for the info.
But I kinda thought it was a little too simple for a Judge's opinion.
Thanx for the info.
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written by Philadelphia Roof Doctor, October 23, 2008
The Supreme Court of Hawaii did not really make a decision on Andy Martin's request for the certified birth certificate.
What the Court did, however, was to rule that a writ of mandamus was not warranted and that the case was still to proceed in Circuit Court. They also ruled that the lower court judge was within his discretion as far as the hearing date and requirement for Martin to actually appear in court.
The ruling has settled nothing except the issue of a writ of mandamus.
What the Court did, however, was to rule that a writ of mandamus was not warranted and that the case was still to proceed in Circuit Court. They also ruled that the lower court judge was within his discretion as far as the hearing date and requirement for Martin to actually appear in court.
The ruling has settled nothing except the issue of a writ of mandamus.
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written by Philadelphia Roof Doctor, October 23, 2008
RoboTech,
That's another clue. A judge's order is usually accompanied by an opinion which is titled OPINION.
There was no opinion in that filing.
I'm not an attorney either, but I have represented myself pro se in a case that went all the way to the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania.
That's another clue. A judge's order is usually accompanied by an opinion which is titled OPINION.
There was no opinion in that filing.
I'm not an attorney either, but I have represented myself pro se in a case that went all the way to the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania.
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written by Kay , October 23, 2008
Maggie in Oklahoma, I fully understand your frustration. Obama and his team are a well-oiled machine that started years ago planning how they would take the Whitehouse. There are 2 things, well, 3 things we can do to stop them:
1. Send emails, call your representatives and Senators and DEMAND they cover what Philip Berg is doing and if they don't want to do so, then tell them you will see that they are voted out of office. Remember, it is STILL "WE THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE" and your officials work for YOU! There is a petition you can also sign, and it will go to your Representatiives and Senators and maybe someone can re-post that link.
2. REMEMBER, you do have a vote! WE elect those who are in the house and senate and THEY work for us. Some of the people in BOTH houses have become so cocky, that in MY opinion, they have GOT to go! Many have forgotten, that the jobs they hold are because of WE THE PEOPLE! They are paid by our TAX DOLLARS and we NEVER sent them to Congress to vote to put the taxpayers in this kind of mess with the BAILOUT and when they ALL went against the will of the people....it didn't take me long at all to decide MY own Senators and Reps had to go! Also, look at their records and pull up the "EARMARKS". I was so unhappy with all the earmarks they all were hiding in the "BAILOUT". It is outrageous.....but remember once again, we DO Have the POWER!
3. Remember, your vote IS important!! Also, tell your neighbors, your friends, call and email your local stations and keep on emailing. Someone on this board said one of her Representatives or someone she had called had gotten a little annoyed at her calling....well, TOO bad! IT's time they learn WE DO MATTER! And it's too bad they get annoyed! RIGHT?
4. Support financiially this fight that Phil J. Berg has taken on. GIVE whatever you can. It is very expensive to file these motions and to keep on fighting.....so $200, $100, $13, $2.00, whatever amount, give what you can!
I hope these things help you. Someone said earlier that they were planning to protest at some of these TV stations but I don't know what happened there. But that would be something else to consider.
Good luck to you, hon and don't give up! This is STILL AMERICA!!! THIS IS STILL....THE LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE and WE THE PEOPLE STILL HAVE A VOICE!!!
GOD BLESS YOU AND GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
Thanks again Phil, for ALL you are doing! WE ARE SO BLESSED TO HAVE SOMEONE LIKE YOU TO STAND UP FOR TRUTH AND WE SUPPORT YOU!!! GOD BLESS YOU, SIR!!!
1. Send emails, call your representatives and Senators and DEMAND they cover what Philip Berg is doing and if they don't want to do so, then tell them you will see that they are voted out of office. Remember, it is STILL "WE THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE" and your officials work for YOU! There is a petition you can also sign, and it will go to your Representatiives and Senators and maybe someone can re-post that link.
2. REMEMBER, you do have a vote! WE elect those who are in the house and senate and THEY work for us. Some of the people in BOTH houses have become so cocky, that in MY opinion, they have GOT to go! Many have forgotten, that the jobs they hold are because of WE THE PEOPLE! They are paid by our TAX DOLLARS and we NEVER sent them to Congress to vote to put the taxpayers in this kind of mess with the BAILOUT and when they ALL went against the will of the people....it didn't take me long at all to decide MY own Senators and Reps had to go! Also, look at their records and pull up the "EARMARKS". I was so unhappy with all the earmarks they all were hiding in the "BAILOUT". It is outrageous.....but remember once again, we DO Have the POWER!
3. Remember, your vote IS important!! Also, tell your neighbors, your friends, call and email your local stations and keep on emailing. Someone on this board said one of her Representatives or someone she had called had gotten a little annoyed at her calling....well, TOO bad! IT's time they learn WE DO MATTER! And it's too bad they get annoyed! RIGHT?
4. Support financiially this fight that Phil J. Berg has taken on. GIVE whatever you can. It is very expensive to file these motions and to keep on fighting.....so $200, $100, $13, $2.00, whatever amount, give what you can!
I hope these things help you. Someone said earlier that they were planning to protest at some of these TV stations but I don't know what happened there. But that would be something else to consider.
Good luck to you, hon and don't give up! This is STILL AMERICA!!! THIS IS STILL....THE LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE and WE THE PEOPLE STILL HAVE A VOICE!!!
GOD BLESS YOU AND GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
Thanks again Phil, for ALL you are doing! WE ARE SO BLESSED TO HAVE SOMEONE LIKE YOU TO STAND UP FOR TRUTH AND WE SUPPORT YOU!!! GOD BLESS YOU, SIR!!!
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written by Terry136, October 23, 2008
And the faulty stats continue! I love this site--but you're still posting erroneous information! Please show us your web statistic documentation when you post these numbers.
The purpose of this website is the ongoing litigation of Berg v Obama.
Coujld you take your obsession with the web stats to the Daily Kos? By now, you should have learned that posting your "erroneous information" thing every night is going unanswered. How does the number of hits affect Obama's eligibility to be POTUS? Obviously, nobody cares whether the stats are accurate or not except you.
Let's move on with the real purpose of this site.
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written by Reasoning, October 23, 2008
Obama's mentor (father?) was a long lime communist radical. Obviously then, Omabamas connection with Ayers, and all the redicals on his way were not accidental, but programmed. His connection with Odinga is not accidental, but natural and planned, and his connections with radical moslems also follow the idiology....
If you want to get really concerned watch this video
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5411
This is what the USA democratic candidate is all about
If you want to get really concerned watch this video
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5411
This is what the USA democratic candidate is all about
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written by Charlene, October 23, 2008
I am very surprised that there is no reaction or followup to Andy Martin's claim.
I woke up and eagerly began looking for more news on this.....nothing.
What's up with this story.
There are so many stories I ma not sure what I think!
I woke up and eagerly began looking for more news on this.....nothing.
What's up with this story.
There are so many stories I ma not sure what I think!
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written by Rick From Washington, October 23, 2008
The news will not cover this story unless there is some proof to go along with Andy's claim.
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written by Charlene, October 23, 2008
Oh believe me I am not even looking at the lamestream to touch this! I was wondering what the thoughts here were. I am confused , it is really just another smoking gun and how many do people need to hear to think, *ahhh there may be something wierd about this guy*
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written by James, October 23, 2008
Obama is going to Hawaii to deal with Andy Martin and the lawsuits against him.
Unfortunately, the American people are sucking up the Kool Aid answer from the Main Stream Media that Obama is going to visit his grandmother who the last one which another lie.
Obama has another grandmother in Kenya but he doesn't want to mention her because she has made statements that Obama was born in Kenya
PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD FAR AND WIDE!!!!!
The AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE DUPED!!!!
Unfortunately, the American people are sucking up the Kool Aid answer from the Main Stream Media that Obama is going to visit his grandmother who the last one which another lie.
Obama has another grandmother in Kenya but he doesn't want to mention her because she has made statements that Obama was born in Kenya
PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD FAR AND WIDE!!!!!
The AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE DUPED!!!!
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written by justthefactsma'am, October 23, 2008
Good Morning everyone, I wanted to pose a few questions. Last week, both candidates were summoned to the whitehouse for a briefing. (http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2...ransition/) I agree with every one here, and have been in full support of Mr. Berg. So here's what I am wondering, maybe someone with insight or knowledge may be able to answer (Not KevinMM that guy is nuts) anyway: supposedly, Obama is up by double digits in the polls. Why then, is he going on Prime Time on all the networks on the 29th? If you are ahead, why the t.v. appearance? the last person to do this was Ross Perot, but that guy was a millionaire/billionaire and not on the major ticket and was lowest in the polls at the time. Keeping in mind that meeting at the White House. O.K: I suspect that Mr. Berg opened up a can of whoopass on Obama, and, given the Messiah's following, govt. can't just have him pull out, we'd have riots worse than the 60's, they can't admit the whole legal issue is right, or again, riots, claims of racism, etc. But, think of this. His sudden trip to Hawaii, Sick Grandma, etc. Any bets his plane will mysteriously disappear and teams will be looking for him? This way, it will be in the news for a few days, and when the clamour is done, they will use that 1/2 hour timeslot to go over the "life and times of Obama" . it's just a possibility, think of the ramifications and cost to the country. The govt. and powers that be had to think up something that won't throw this country in turmoil worse than it is. (remember the chaos over Anna Nichol Smith?)If this theory is not correct, I'm still hoping that Mr. Berg wins. I'm tired of Mr. Arrogance and can't wait until he goes away. Everyone has the proof, yet he's still here. I'd like to talk to him like Joe the Plumber did, I want Obama to share his wealth and could use some extra cash to build a rec room in my basement.
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written by James, October 23, 2008
Fall City man to challenge Obama citizenship
http://www.tri-cityherald.com/...8879.html
PLEASE SPREAD FAR AND WIDE!!!!!
INFORM ALL NEWS NETWORKS!!!
TELL YOUR FRIENDS!!!!!
http://www.tri-cityherald.com/...8879.html
PLEASE SPREAD FAR AND WIDE!!!!!
INFORM ALL NEWS NETWORKS!!!
TELL YOUR FRIENDS!!!!!
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written by S. Denecker, October 23, 2008
I have contacted every t.v. station in my area of Arizona begging them to let the public know about this case. With the election almost over and our country on the brink of beiing attacked it is more important than ever that Obama be exposed for the fake he is.
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written by LaSalle, October 23, 2008
Michigan Police Officers take on Obama….
Please pass this along everyone that you have on
Your e-mail list because this is just the beginning — if
This arrogant, egotistical, super liberal, presidetial
Wannabe gets into office….God forbid
To all, I have read all of the emails from Law Enforcement
& Military personnel about Barack Obama’s rudeness
And what seems to be disgust for basically anyone in
Uniform.
Well, it’s my turn to add to the list of e
Mailers and here it is:
So members of the Calhoun County Sheriff’s Department,
Michigan State Police, (me included) and other local
Agencies inside Calhoun County are working with Secret
Service in the security of Mr. Obama. Mr.
Obama’s bus arrives in
Battle Creek and pulls into the stadium area.
Before Mr.
Obama exits the bus, he has the Secret Service get off and
Tell all Law Enforcement personnel in uniform that they now
Have to stand behind the bus so Mr.
Obama is not seen with
Anyone in a Law Enforcement uniform before he gets off or
While in the public view.
So, everyone from Michigan State
Police, Sheriff’s Departments and other agencies look at each other for a
Brief second, go and stand behind the bus
Out of sight so Mr.
Obama does not have to see, or been
Seen with, what to him is ‘undesirables’ since he
Refuses to be seen, or even acknowledge Military or Law
Enforcement personnel in uniform.
And he wants to be our commander-in-chief!
At a time of war and terrorism in our world, this
Presidential candidate who is being protected by various
Branches of the military & law enforcement at the tax
Payers expense, refuses to acknowledge, be seen with, have
In his photographed background, any type of Military or Law
Enforcement in uniform.
But this is not in the headlines or in
The news or on TV.
The TV news doesn’t show us marching
Around behind the bus.
In the future, look and see if you
Can see a single soldier or police officer in uniform when
You see Obama.
Why? I wonder what the story or media
Frenzy would be if it was Muslims, blacks, whites, Jews, or
Any other race, gender, religon, and/or occupation, that Mr.
Obama refused to be seen with or have around him.
Why would I make this up? Everyone in Law Enforcement
Knows we have traditionally had more funding under Democrats.
Just food for thought leading up to November 4th.
Jason Kern
Michigan Tactical Officer’s Association
Michigan State Police
Executive Board Member
Please pass this along everyone that you have on
Your e-mail list because this is just the beginning — if
This arrogant, egotistical, super liberal, presidetial
Wannabe gets into office….God forbid
To all, I have read all of the emails from Law Enforcement
& Military personnel about Barack Obama’s rudeness
And what seems to be disgust for basically anyone in
Uniform.
Well, it’s my turn to add to the list of e
Mailers and here it is:
So members of the Calhoun County Sheriff’s Department,
Michigan State Police, (me included) and other local
Agencies inside Calhoun County are working with Secret
Service in the security of Mr. Obama. Mr.
Obama’s bus arrives in
Battle Creek and pulls into the stadium area.
Before Mr.
Obama exits the bus, he has the Secret Service get off and
Tell all Law Enforcement personnel in uniform that they now
Have to stand behind the bus so Mr.
Obama is not seen with
Anyone in a Law Enforcement uniform before he gets off or
While in the public view.
So, everyone from Michigan State
Police, Sheriff’s Departments and other agencies look at each other for a
Brief second, go and stand behind the bus
Out of sight so Mr.
Obama does not have to see, or been
Seen with, what to him is ‘undesirables’ since he
Refuses to be seen, or even acknowledge Military or Law
Enforcement personnel in uniform.
And he wants to be our commander-in-chief!
At a time of war and terrorism in our world, this
Presidential candidate who is being protected by various
Branches of the military & law enforcement at the tax
Payers expense, refuses to acknowledge, be seen with, have
In his photographed background, any type of Military or Law
Enforcement in uniform.
But this is not in the headlines or in
The news or on TV.
The TV news doesn’t show us marching
Around behind the bus.
In the future, look and see if you
Can see a single soldier or police officer in uniform when
You see Obama.
Why? I wonder what the story or media
Frenzy would be if it was Muslims, blacks, whites, Jews, or
Any other race, gender, religon, and/or occupation, that Mr.
Obama refused to be seen with or have around him.
Why would I make this up? Everyone in Law Enforcement
Knows we have traditionally had more funding under Democrats.
Just food for thought leading up to November 4th.
Jason Kern
Michigan Tactical Officer’s Association
Michigan State Police
Executive Board Member
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written by justthefactsma'am, October 23, 2008
....Obama is in Indiana this morning, about to give a speech. What happened to visiting sick Granny? It's a good 13 hour flight from Indiana to Hawaii, if he left right now he wouldn't get there until 9:30pm cdt. I guess there's really not a big rush, all the Messiah will have to do is lay his hands on her and she shall be healed. What's alarming is this, if he announced on Monday, that he was suspending his campaign due to sick grandma, but doesn't leave until Thursday, hmm, what happens if/when we'd face a crisis? would he delay action until it fits his schedule? Scary thought
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written by Mr. Big, October 23, 2008
Perhaps Obama is making the trip to Hawaii because he found out that the RNC is ready to drop his Kenyan birth certificate. He wants to scrub through the paperwork at granny's to see if he can find a registration of birth at the American embassy or anything else to back up his natural born status. He also wants to make sure granny keeps her mouth shut.
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written by Matt Trey, October 23, 2008
On Fox and Friends this morning, they stated that Obama was leaving for Hawaii after his Indiana event.
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written by James, October 23, 2008
Obama need to be sanctioned when he goes to Hawaii and investigators need to be ready for him and watch his every move like a hawk.
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written by margo, October 23, 2008
GOOGLE HYPNOSIS BY OBAMA LINKS
USING ACORN VOTER ,FRAUD FOR VOTES
HYPNOSIS AMAZING WHAT HE DOES TO TRY TO WIN PASS THIS AROUND ASAP!!!!!
NO BIRTH CERITFICATE, PLUS ALL HIS RADICAL MENTORS
WHAT IS OBAMA'S REAL AGENDA????????????
WWW.WND.COM www.wnd.com info here CORSI UPDATES AD CAMPAIGNS KENYA ODINGA AND OBAMA
USING ACORN VOTER ,FRAUD FOR VOTES
HYPNOSIS AMAZING WHAT HE DOES TO TRY TO WIN PASS THIS AROUND ASAP!!!!!
NO BIRTH CERITFICATE, PLUS ALL HIS RADICAL MENTORS
WHAT IS OBAMA'S REAL AGENDA????????????
WWW.WND.COM www.wnd.com info here CORSI UPDATES AD CAMPAIGNS KENYA ODINGA AND OBAMA
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written by Hopeful, October 23, 2008
If Andy Martin is correct, isn't this going to screw up Berg's lawsuit. I too believe Obama was born in Kenya--at the very least, that he didn't relinquish his Indonesian citizenship. So, if Andy Martin is correct, how will that impact the Berg Case? Please, someone help me out here.
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written by Hopeful, October 23, 2008
How would Andy Martin's realization affect the Berg lawsuit?
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written by Justthefactsma'am, October 23, 2008
thank you Mr. Big,that is what I suspect too, I know my missing airplane theory is a longshot, but stranger things have happened. Simply because of this: If you remember when Bill Clinton was first elected, and the George H.W. Bush, after the election is when they go to the white house to discuss international issues, not before the fact. I highly doubt highly classified intelligence would be divulged to people that are candidates. I also find it interesting that this is all happening close to the weekend, wall st. closes tomorrow afternoon, etc.
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written by Hopeful, October 23, 2008
I don't trust Corsi anymore. When he was in Kenya he acted like he had the SMOKING GUN to get Obama to resign. He didn't have anything even close to that! No one, apparently cares what Obama's link is to Odinga and his tactics. I was so disappointed after that.
Now I am praying Berg can deliver for America. I just hope Andy Martin didn't screw this up for us!
Now I am praying Berg can deliver for America. I just hope Andy Martin didn't screw this up for us!
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written by Matt Trey, October 23, 2008
Andy Martin's information does not affect Berg's case in anyway. Berg's points of admission are still possible scenarios describing Obama's birthplace and citizenship status.
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written by ..., October 23, 2008
Has anyone else seen this? Saw it on americasright.com, http://docs.justia.com/cases/f...281573/27/
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written by Steve, October 23, 2008
Blah,blah blah, im sick and tired of the MSM spreading 100% false lies about this man....Bow down to Obooma...He will cure all ur sickness and sadness.... I think it is all sick crap pot reporting and sadistic methods of brainwashing and hypnotizing!!!
Obama is going to Hawaii to either take care of Granny or get the "new forged" certificates.. THAT IS THE TRUTH!!!!
Obama is going to Hawaii to either take care of Granny or get the "new forged" certificates.. THAT IS THE TRUTH!!!!
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written by Hot2Trot, October 23, 2008
VERY INTERESTING information on Frank Marshall Davis. No wonder there's been an attempt to try to cover this up if Davis is Obama's father.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFH8WlKhJRo
http://righttruth.typepad.com/...frank.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...Obama.html
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written by nobamanohow, October 23, 2008
Look, the TRUTH WILL OUT.
Assume Martin is correct and that 0bama is the son of Frank Marshall Davis. His friend Barack Sr. fronted as Barry's dad, married Stanley Ann, to take the pressure off of him, maybe to give Barack Sr. US citizenship(?). She may even have gone to Kenya and delivered there to perfect the ruse. He may have a Kenyan birth certificate therefore, with Barry, Sr.'s name on it. If he's genetically the son of Davis, as long as Barack Sr. is on the birth certificate, he's his son (because they're no going to strongarm into a DNA cheek swab).
Whatever is on the birth certificate needs to be made PUBLICLY visible, hell we do not even know Barry's real name.
So, Berg is still hot on the trail, as are suits in VA, WA, CA, UT, HI and more...
PLUS
Frank Marshall Davis, soviet spy, author of what the FBI termed "The Davis Plan" to overthrow the US government and bring down capitalism, friend of Ayers, from Chicago...THIS was 0bama's mentor (and biodad in all likelihood). This just add to the urgency to disclose everything about 0bama.
http://www.contributors.blogsome.com/2008/10/09/god-bless-you-marion-valentine/
Assume Martin is correct and that 0bama is the son of Frank Marshall Davis. His friend Barack Sr. fronted as Barry's dad, married Stanley Ann, to take the pressure off of him, maybe to give Barack Sr. US citizenship(?). She may even have gone to Kenya and delivered there to perfect the ruse. He may have a Kenyan birth certificate therefore, with Barry, Sr.'s name on it. If he's genetically the son of Davis, as long as Barack Sr. is on the birth certificate, he's his son (because they're no going to strongarm into a DNA cheek swab).
Whatever is on the birth certificate needs to be made PUBLICLY visible, hell we do not even know Barry's real name.
So, Berg is still hot on the trail, as are suits in VA, WA, CA, UT, HI and more...
PLUS
Frank Marshall Davis, soviet spy, author of what the FBI termed "The Davis Plan" to overthrow the US government and bring down capitalism, friend of Ayers, from Chicago...THIS was 0bama's mentor (and biodad in all likelihood). This just add to the urgency to disclose everything about 0bama.
http://www.contributors.blogsome.com/2008/10/09/god-bless-you-marion-valentine/
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written by VAN STEELE, October 23, 2008
Let me see if I'm understanding this:
1) a foreign national can land himself on the eastern seaboard in a rowboat.
2) he can ditch his rowboat on the beach and hitchhike into a major city.
3) he can run for state senate and win.
4) he can run for U.S. senate and win.
5) he can run for POTUS and win and get innaugarated.
ALONG THE ENTIRE WAY, HE NEVER HAS TO PROVE TO ANYONE, ANY GOVERNING ENTITY ANYWHERE THAT HE's A NATURAL BORN U.S. CITIZEN?
Every country in the world has safeguards to ensure they know who's running the show - we don't?
Someone please clear this up for me.
1) a foreign national can land himself on the eastern seaboard in a rowboat.
2) he can ditch his rowboat on the beach and hitchhike into a major city.
3) he can run for state senate and win.
4) he can run for U.S. senate and win.
5) he can run for POTUS and win and get innaugarated.
ALONG THE ENTIRE WAY, HE NEVER HAS TO PROVE TO ANYONE, ANY GOVERNING ENTITY ANYWHERE THAT HE's A NATURAL BORN U.S. CITIZEN?
Every country in the world has safeguards to ensure they know who's running the show - we don't?
Someone please clear this up for me.
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written by nobamanohow, October 23, 2008
Anonymous: Barry is a member of the NEW PARTY, signed on the dotted line, so go get a clue, moron.
We had 8 years of Bush working out his Samsonites full of Daddy psychopathies at our expense...
0bama makes Bush look like the pinnacle of mental health!!
0bama has a debt to pay to Frank, (communist takeover of America) and to Barack Sr.(helping Odinga commit genocide).
He's pissed at his mom and grandmom for depriving him of his real Dad for part of his life, and by birthright.
He's gotta be screwed up because his biodad was a pervert, statutory rapist.
His grandfather was an enabler.
0bama needs a couch and kleenex, not the Whitehouse!! He is one MESS.
We had 8 years of Bush working out his Samsonites full of Daddy psychopathies at our expense...
0bama makes Bush look like the pinnacle of mental health!!
0bama has a debt to pay to Frank, (communist takeover of America) and to Barack Sr.(helping Odinga commit genocide).
He's pissed at his mom and grandmom for depriving him of his real Dad for part of his life, and by birthright.
He's gotta be screwed up because his biodad was a pervert, statutory rapist.
His grandfather was an enabler.
0bama needs a couch and kleenex, not the Whitehouse!! He is one MESS.
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written by Fearful, October 23, 2008
I think this whole Frank Marshall Davis scenario is making us all look like a bunch of kooks to the MSM. I don't think it is lending credibility to any of our stories right now. I think we should let Andy Martin stand alone in his story and focus on Berg's lawsuit. There are already elements people don't think are legit about Corsi, Martin and Berg, so let's keep focused with our eye on the prize., and the PRIZE can only come if Berg wins his lawsuit.
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written by DB, October 23, 2008
Andy Martin offers absolutely no proof of his claims. Anyone can say they're Obama's father! I thought he was having three press conferences and the last one would deal with Senator Fong. It's really disappointing but what Andy Martin has posted on his website makes him look like he's making it up because he offers nothing to back it up...a lot of hype but no substance.
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written by MARGUERITE, October 23, 2008
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written by Delta, October 23, 2008
Do some homework. Barack's mother was not in the military, so the laws affecting you and your parents do not apply to Stanley Dunham and her son. The vast majority here respect military service and accept the laws making military brats citizens. We also respect John McCain's status as a "natural born" citizen even though the law was not made retroactive to his birthdate. McCain, like him or not, was forthright about his situation. Obama has been anything but honest and open.
Don't be an Obot! The legal arguments are posted on this site. Read them.
Don't be an Obot! The legal arguments are posted on this site. Read them.
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written by Donna, October 23, 2008
If Obama was born in Kenya this is the part of the clause that would govern his citizenship, and based on his mothers age, he would not qualify as natural born:
Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. .... For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.
If Obama was born in Hawaii and subsequently adopted by Lolo Soetoro (who he has called his stepfather) and moved to Indonesia, where dual citizenship was not recognized, his "parents" then would have relinquished his right to US citizenship.
We are not stupid enough to not realize that in most cases children born abroad by US citizen parents are considered natural born. Get off your high horse.
Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. .... For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.
If Obama was born in Hawaii and subsequently adopted by Lolo Soetoro (who he has called his stepfather) and moved to Indonesia, where dual citizenship was not recognized, his "parents" then would have relinquished his right to US citizenship.
We are not stupid enough to not realize that in most cases children born abroad by US citizen parents are considered natural born. Get off your high horse.
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written by sos, October 23, 2008
Please read the lawsuit accessed on the main page to understand what the facts are. You are like McCain who was born on foreign soil to two American parents: one of which was in the Military. Obama was not.
You are greatly mistaken to think that there are not Military or African Americans on this site disgusted by Obama's deceit. No racism here: just loyalty to America.
Please join us in keeping up with all the news as it happens.
Don't be an OBOT - get your head out of the sand.
You are greatly mistaken to think that there are not Military or African Americans on this site disgusted by Obama's deceit. No racism here: just loyalty to America.
Please join us in keeping up with all the news as it happens.
Don't be an OBOT - get your head out of the sand.
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written by wiswmn, October 23, 2008
O.k.~99% of us are for Mr. Berg, and thank God for him defending our Constitution.
1. If Obama went to live in a different country, and obtained citizenship there to go to school, he is no longer a U.S. citizen, born on U.S. soil or not, his mom and dad gave that up for him when they had him become a citizen of another country.
2. The law is the law. Though MSM is ignoring the lawsuits, the people aren't.
3. The people on this site claiming it's all bogus, we are being lied to, etc., I beg to differ. The MSM are clouding your good judgement with thier own propoganda, so what you are hearing is indeed bogus, you are being lied to, and it's all for the votes of those who don't have any hoopspa to stand up for what you believe in.
4. Bringing Bush into something that is totally irrelevant is insane. This shows the MORONIC point of view of a typical OBAMABOT~I have news for the dumbasses that are blaming Bush for EVERYTHING: He alone cannot dictate the law of the land, or policy of the land. It has to be voted on by CONGRESS. Hmm, what party has been running congress? What party is also being named in Mr. Berg's Lawsuit?
I wish everyone would go back to the evening of September 11th after the Trade Center collapsed. Dems and Repubs were all on the steps singing God Bless America. All of them, OVERWHELMINGLY said "go get 'em" The President alone did not start all of this, unfortunately he's been in charge at the time, and he is now taking the blame.
Mr. Berg is doing what he took an oath to.
I solemnly swear (or affirm) I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Louisiana;
I will maintain the respect due to courts of justice and judicial officers;
I will not counsel or maintain any suit or proceeding which shall appear to me to be unjust, nor any defense except such as I believe to be honestly debatable under the law of the land;
I will employ for the purpose of maintaining the causes confided to me such means only as are consistent with truth and honor, and will never seek to mislead the judge or jury by an artifice or false statement of fact or law;
I will maintain the confidence and preserve inviolate the secrets of my client, and will accept no compensation in connection with a client's business except from the client or with the client's knowledge and approval;
I will abstain from all offensive personality, and advance no fact prejudicial to the honor or reputation of a party or witness, unless required by the justice of the cause with which I am charged;
I will never reject, from any consideration personal to myself, the cause of the defenseless or oppressed, or delay any person's cause for lucre or malice.
So help me God.
(NOTE: this happens to be the oath for Louisiana, but I am sure it's the same no matter Michigan, Florida, Pennsy., etc.)
1. If Obama went to live in a different country, and obtained citizenship there to go to school, he is no longer a U.S. citizen, born on U.S. soil or not, his mom and dad gave that up for him when they had him become a citizen of another country.
2. The law is the law. Though MSM is ignoring the lawsuits, the people aren't.
3. The people on this site claiming it's all bogus, we are being lied to, etc., I beg to differ. The MSM are clouding your good judgement with thier own propoganda, so what you are hearing is indeed bogus, you are being lied to, and it's all for the votes of those who don't have any hoopspa to stand up for what you believe in.
4. Bringing Bush into something that is totally irrelevant is insane. This shows the MORONIC point of view of a typical OBAMABOT~I have news for the dumbasses that are blaming Bush for EVERYTHING: He alone cannot dictate the law of the land, or policy of the land. It has to be voted on by CONGRESS. Hmm, what party has been running congress? What party is also being named in Mr. Berg's Lawsuit?
I wish everyone would go back to the evening of September 11th after the Trade Center collapsed. Dems and Repubs were all on the steps singing God Bless America. All of them, OVERWHELMINGLY said "go get 'em" The President alone did not start all of this, unfortunately he's been in charge at the time, and he is now taking the blame.
Mr. Berg is doing what he took an oath to.
I solemnly swear (or affirm) I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Louisiana;
I will maintain the respect due to courts of justice and judicial officers;
I will not counsel or maintain any suit or proceeding which shall appear to me to be unjust, nor any defense except such as I believe to be honestly debatable under the law of the land;
I will employ for the purpose of maintaining the causes confided to me such means only as are consistent with truth and honor, and will never seek to mislead the judge or jury by an artifice or false statement of fact or law;
I will maintain the confidence and preserve inviolate the secrets of my client, and will accept no compensation in connection with a client's business except from the client or with the client's knowledge and approval;
I will abstain from all offensive personality, and advance no fact prejudicial to the honor or reputation of a party or witness, unless required by the justice of the cause with which I am charged;
I will never reject, from any consideration personal to myself, the cause of the defenseless or oppressed, or delay any person's cause for lucre or malice.
So help me God.
(NOTE: this happens to be the oath for Louisiana, but I am sure it's the same no matter Michigan, Florida, Pennsy., etc.)
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written by Hot2Trot, October 23, 2008
Personally, I don't care what we look like to the MSM. They're the ones that refuse to shed some light on everything that is going on with Obama & this case. Not us. So by default, they're the kooks who are in cahoots with the enemies (Communists) who are seeking to take over this country.
Rumors & speculation regarding the fact that Frank Marshall Davis may be Obama's father have been out there for quite awhile. This revelation by Andy Martin shouldn't come as any surprise to anyone who's been doing internet research. Just for visual comparison, if you click on the link below & take a look at B. Obama's photo (next to Obama Sr. & Frank Marshall Davis) I think you'll be able to see the close resemblance to Davis. BO doesn't look anything like his mother or supposed father (Obama Sr.) However, he does closely resemble Frank Marshall Davis (a known Communist) who was also Obama's mentor, a.k.a "Frank", in his book "Dreams from My Father." Davis was very influential in Obama's life during his formative years.
http://astuteblogger.blogspot....-dots.html
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written by Full Nelson, October 23, 2008
IMO, Andy Martin is looking for media attention and looking to make this case and Phil Berg look bad. His press releases have been full of dramatized fluff. It is no secret is does not like Berg or this lawsuit. He has told this to people on the Hillary Clinton Forum. As of yet, Martin has not provided one shred of evidence to back any of this up. Even the court didn't believe him and denied his request. Berg has 3 witnesses, a school document and Obama's own books to back up his theory.
And while I hate to pull out the deck of discrimination cards, Andy Martin is an anti-semite and Phil Berg is Jewish.
And while I hate to pull out the deck of discrimination cards, Andy Martin is an anti-semite and Phil Berg is Jewish.
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written by Maybe, October 23, 2008
I have a good friend who is a police/forensics sketch artist. She is trained to study the nuances of the face/skin. When this story first broke, she did her own analysis of the two potential fathers. Even though the particular photos/positioning on the link of a previous poster look more alike, she obtained full, frontal shots of both potential fathers and did her work. She also obtained a photo of Obama's mother to use. It was her conclusion, without a shadow of a doubt, that Barack Obama IS the son of Barack Obama Senior and Stanley Dunham. I trust her implicitly. She has a 100% track record. For what it is worth!
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written by sos, October 23, 2008
Full Nelson - This does not hurt Berg's case since he has repeatedly said that the BC does not matter since his main interest is in BO's Indonesian citizenship.
If Martin can prove that Frank Davis is BO's father, or if BO himself comes up with that 'revelation' after visiting Grannie, MSM will have to pick it up and people will see that the speculation was already out there and that BO lied.
Andy Martin does sound like a dramatic loony, but he has been the only one to go to Hawaii and investigate and it obviously got BO's attention - so he is okay in my book)
If Martin can prove that Frank Davis is BO's father, or if BO himself comes up with that 'revelation' after visiting Grannie, MSM will have to pick it up and people will see that the speculation was already out there and that BO lied.
Andy Martin does sound like a dramatic loony, but he has been the only one to go to Hawaii and investigate and it obviously got BO's attention - so he is okay in my book
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written by Hot2Trot, October 23, 2008
Full Nelson
I think we need to sit back & relax until we know what Andy Martin has on the Obama - Davis connection. It will come out in time. Andy will have to support his claim.
Just for the record, I personally am an intimate friend of Israel & the Jewish people. My husband & I lived in Jerusalem for over a year & hold that nation very near & dear to our hearts. We have many friends over there that we consider like family. My husband is Jewish. With that understanding, I refuse to discredit Andy Martin's claims to know something about the Obama / Davis connection based solely on the claim that he is an "Anti Semite". It's my hope that when all is said & done, it will be shown that Andy & Phil are NOT at odds with one another but rather are on the same team in the sense that they are seeking the truth regarding Obama (albeit through different means).
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written by daniel, October 23, 2008
I am staying focused. NO ONE has YET come to this blog's attention concerning relief, and producing any type of documents. NO matter what happens at this point and time I will cast my vote against BO and then everyone on all the blog's and everyone on the internet VOTE BO DOWN and make sure he doesn't have a chance. I don't deserve all this cloak and dagger stuff. BO never thougth the Internet would bring him down. VOTE BO DOWN November 4.
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written by api, October 23, 2008
Mr, Berg; Did you receive the tape electronicly yet. Please let us know so everyone
can put the myth to rest?
PS, Tell someone to fix this site, it sucks to slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
can put the myth to rest?
PS, Tell someone to fix this site, it sucks to slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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written by Bob, October 23, 2008
Limbaugh just mentioned Berg case saying his trip to Hawaii is about that
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written by Hot2Trot, October 23, 2008
*****************RUSH LIMBAUGH IS TALKING ABOUT THIS CASE ON THE RADIO RIGHT NOW**********************
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written by wqflagwaver, October 23, 2008
Since people aren't paying attention, I'll repost these videos someone sent in yesterday. Be afraid.
Youtube may save our country! Who knew?
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related
Youtube may save our country! Who knew?
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related
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written by Linda, October 23, 2008
Among the many reasons Obama doesn't want people to know the truth about his BC, could be that if his 'family' in Kenya realizes he is not really a member of their tribe. Odinga might be upset to find out that he is not really his cousin. Obama has not only lied to us but to the Kenyans too that believe he is one of them. That could be a problem.
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written by Linda, October 23, 2008
I like the post about Obama's legal name.
We know he was not given the name Barack Hussein Obama Jr. at birth. Where are the documents that show he legally changed his name?
If he did not legally change his name then the name on the ballots would be invalid. People would be voting for someone that doesn't exist.
We know he was not given the name Barack Hussein Obama Jr. at birth. Where are the documents that show he legally changed his name?
If he did not legally change his name then the name on the ballots would be invalid. People would be voting for someone that doesn't exist.
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written by William, October 23, 2008
Little Miss America
You need to do your research. Factcheck is an Obama site and the BC has NOT been verified. In fact, three (3) forensic analysts have stated it to have been altered and fake.
You need to do your research. Factcheck is an Obama site and the BC has NOT been verified. In fact, three (3) forensic analysts have stated it to have been altered and fake.
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written by Peter, October 23, 2008
You are either a troll or very ignorant.
Read some of the threads bofore posting. This document on factcheck has been proven to be a fraud by TWO independent experts.
Read some of the threads bofore posting. This document on factcheck has been proven to be a fraud by TWO independent experts.
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written by Ted Park, October 23, 2008
A poster far above was commenting on the possibility of FD being BO's father and that it helped explain how and why BO was following the Davis Doctrine "to a T". We don't need the birth connection for that. We have long known that, regardless of birth relationship, BO was mentored by FD for many years. And yes, BO is following "to a T". The frustrating thing is why this circumstance alone does not immediately and thoroughly discredt BO. We shouldn't even have to worry about things like the technicalities of eligibility. This guy is prima facie idealogically inelligible! Who wants a Communist/Comunist Sympathizer for President. Americans have gone nuts.
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written by Ted Park, October 23, 2008
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ALONG THE ENTIRE WAY, HE NEVER HAS TO PROVE TO ANYONE, ANY GOVERNING ENTITY ANYWHERE THAT HE's A NATURAL BORN U.S. CITIZEN?
Every country in the world has safeguards to ensure they know who's running the show - we don't?
Someone please clear this up for me.
Answer:
Apparently this is indeed the case. We have never had this problem before. All previoius candidates have left enough of a trail that was never in doubt.
Methinks that Congress and the Dept. of HS need to get together and figure something out for the future!
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written by Frank Baumann, October 23, 2008
This is for the Barrack Obama supporters.
First, I am a Christian and believe is not mine, nor anyone else’s, place to judge people. It is however, my place to help choose who I want to be President.
I think the government is to big, has too much power and should be drastically reduced. I know that we are losing our freedoms at am alarming rate. I have several friends that were born and raised in Europe and are now US citizens. They are shocked at how fast we are moving towards a European style Social Democracy.
Just a few questions.
Do you believe in censorship? Please just a simple yes or no.
Why are posts that question Barrack Obama’s past removed for left leaning Blogs?
Why do many newspaper and TV blogs censor questions about Barrack Obama’s past or are negative regarding Barrack Obama? Why are so many YouTube videos about Barrack Obama removed?
As you can see anti-Obama blogs do not censor you, they welcome all opinions.
What if Barrack Obama’s mother and Grandparents were Communist?
There is lots of evidence to suggest that. Would that affect your opinion of him?
By his own admission, Frank Marshall Davis was Barrack Obama’s was mentor. What do you know about him? Do 5 minutes of research then answer this question. Would let this man watch your kids? Why not?
As far as religion goes, answer this. By his own admission, Revered Wright taught Barrack Obama everything about being a Christian and was his spiritual mentor. What do you know about Black Liberation Theology? Five minutes of research.
Why did this “Christian/Black Liberation Theology” church give a lifetime achievement award to Nation Of Islam's Lois Farrakhan?
Why, as a sitting US Senator, did Barrack Obama travel to Kenya and campaign for his radical Muslim Cousin, Raila Amollo Odinga? Did you know that is against US Law? When Raila Amollo Odinga lost he incited riots and thousands of people were killed, Christian were burn in their Churches. Why did Barrack Obama support him? Is that a fair question?
If you look at the long list of people Barrack Obama has associated with since he was a child you will see a definite pattern. If you have kids would you allow them to hangout with a drug dealer? Bank robber? Terrorist? Gang-banger? Why not?
We all know why; the people you associate with, the books you read, the TV shows & movies you see, the video games you play, etc… will effect how you think!
If half of the information about Barrack Obama past is true would that affect your opinion? What if it is all true?
You are all smart people just do a few minutes of research.
Why is everything about Barrack Obama past a secret?
What if you are wrong?
First, I am a Christian and believe is not mine, nor anyone else’s, place to judge people. It is however, my place to help choose who I want to be President.
I think the government is to big, has too much power and should be drastically reduced. I know that we are losing our freedoms at am alarming rate. I have several friends that were born and raised in Europe and are now US citizens. They are shocked at how fast we are moving towards a European style Social Democracy.
Just a few questions.
Do you believe in censorship? Please just a simple yes or no.
Why are posts that question Barrack Obama’s past removed for left leaning Blogs?
Why do many newspaper and TV blogs censor questions about Barrack Obama’s past or are negative regarding Barrack Obama? Why are so many YouTube videos about Barrack Obama removed?
As you can see anti-Obama blogs do not censor you, they welcome all opinions.
What if Barrack Obama’s mother and Grandparents were Communist?
There is lots of evidence to suggest that. Would that affect your opinion of him?
By his own admission, Frank Marshall Davis was Barrack Obama’s was mentor. What do you know about him? Do 5 minutes of research then answer this question. Would let this man watch your kids? Why not?
As far as religion goes, answer this. By his own admission, Revered Wright taught Barrack Obama everything about being a Christian and was his spiritual mentor. What do you know about Black Liberation Theology? Five minutes of research.
Why did this “Christian/Black Liberation Theology” church give a lifetime achievement award to Nation Of Islam's Lois Farrakhan?
Why, as a sitting US Senator, did Barrack Obama travel to Kenya and campaign for his radical Muslim Cousin, Raila Amollo Odinga? Did you know that is against US Law? When Raila Amollo Odinga lost he incited riots and thousands of people were killed, Christian were burn in their Churches. Why did Barrack Obama support him? Is that a fair question?
If you look at the long list of people Barrack Obama has associated with since he was a child you will see a definite pattern. If you have kids would you allow them to hangout with a drug dealer? Bank robber? Terrorist? Gang-banger? Why not?
We all know why; the people you associate with, the books you read, the TV shows & movies you see, the video games you play, etc… will effect how you think!
If half of the information about Barrack Obama past is true would that affect your opinion? What if it is all true?
You are all smart people just do a few minutes of research.
Why is everything about Barrack Obama past a secret?
What if you are wrong?
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written by Joe, October 23, 2008
read it for yourself !
http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2008/08/proof-barack-obama-birth-certificate-is.html
http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2008/08/proof-barack-obama-birth-certificate-is.html
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written by Jeff, October 23, 2008
THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED
Mike Savage interviewed Mr. Berg for over 90 minutes including takiing phone calls.
The best part, Savage offers to his listeners to call in and prove Mr. Berg a LIAR and no one called in to take Mr. Berg up on that proposition.
It's up on the web in MP3 form right now.
http://www.710kcmo.com/listenlive.asp
THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED
Mike Savage interviewed Mr. Berg for over 90 minutes including takiing phone calls.
The best part, Savage offers to his listeners to call in and prove Mr. Berg a LIAR and no one called in to take Mr. Berg up on that proposition.
It's up on the web in MP3 form right now.
http://www.710kcmo.com/listenlive.asp
THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED
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written by tiza, October 23, 2008
I think that I read somewhere on here earlier that Obama didn't have to be vetted because he's a senator already. Well, what's going on with these people in the DNC. First off, to be a senator doesn't require as much as becoming a president of the U.S. I think for a senator it requires one to be 30 years of age and you must have been a U.S. citizens for at least 9 years. There may be another one, but I can't remember it right now. Oh, yeah, I can. You have to live in the state that you wish to be a senator in.
However, of a U.S. president, you have to be a natural born citizen too. To become a senator doesn't require this, though.
So what I'm saying is, if the DNC didn't vet him because he was a senator, then why not? Are they stuck on stupid or what? If they didn't vet him to see if he COULD BE A U.S. PRESIDENT, then I guess they were stuck on stupid and they are more stupider by the moment!
Tiza
However, of a U.S. president, you have to be a natural born citizen too. To become a senator doesn't require this, though.
So what I'm saying is, if the DNC didn't vet him because he was a senator, then why not? Are they stuck on stupid or what? If they didn't vet him to see if he COULD BE A U.S. PRESIDENT, then I guess they were stuck on stupid and they are more stupider by the moment!
Tiza
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written by Alex, October 23, 2008
His Dishonesty and ambition will brand the United States as a weak, inept nation.
If Senator Obama is lying to the American people and his party's high officials know it, then they are no better than him. Gosh, there is no way they could not have known! It makes me sick. What happened to the Demoratic Party?! This can't go on...Senetor Obama spewed lies to get to where he is now. If he has any respect for the American people, he will step aside and let someone who fulfills the qualifications run. To think I almost voted for him....it gives me the chills. Sick Grandmother! Yeah right! WE ALL NEED TO WAKE UP!
Alex
If Senator Obama is lying to the American people and his party's high officials know it, then they are no better than him. Gosh, there is no way they could not have known! It makes me sick. What happened to the Demoratic Party?! This can't go on...Senetor Obama spewed lies to get to where he is now. If he has any respect for the American people, he will step aside and let someone who fulfills the qualifications run. To think I almost voted for him....it gives me the chills. Sick Grandmother! Yeah right! WE ALL NEED TO WAKE UP!
Alex
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I guess Obama figures it doesn't matter as the press isn't going to cover this anyway?!!! Can someone help explain what this means?
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