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Battlefield 3 doesn't have mod tools because EA wants you to buy the DLC. Period.Nothing more, nothing less. Everything else is merely excuses.

Onlive could be great if it had more AAA titles from other companies the only real FPSs that are worth playing are Borderlands and Homefront (and if you are a horror fan F.E.A.R 3) why this is well mostly every thing on the system is THQ, and 2K games with a little (and i mean like tiny amount) from Urbisoft.

As for Battlefield not putting mods tools in,  the real reason in my opinion is that they want you to buy 100 bucks worth in DLC

in a nutshell, mods are equivalent to free content, free content is equal to less compulsion to buy DLC as you dont have too to get longevity out of your game anymore, which equals bad business for publishers. So when they are done with DLC, they will consider it just to keep you playing.  I'd expect BF3 will get mod support around middle of next year, after end game is released and sales have begun to decline on added content.

p.s. sorry bout the double post... could admin/moderator delete the duplicate please

EA /Dice wont release the code for modding not because they're affraid to...

                                                                                                                                        it's because they want to sell you all their 'premium player' s**t  first. Which would be ok if they were asking for around £10 max for all this content; but no...they're asking  for £39.99, which was the pre-order price for the original game.

  And for those foolish enough to buy the pre-order (myself included) our game came with 'Back to Karkand'. So in escence they want to re-sell part of our original deal to us.

They are just a two faced money grabbing corporation and if it wasn't for the battlefield series, i'd have nothing to do with them.

They  make out that they dont want the code being used to create hacks, but we all know and seen they're already being used.

I've got no problem with companies that want to make as much money for as little effort....  that's how business works.

  My problem comes from when they make out that they're not like this, yet continually ask you to bend over just so they can rape you again and again, screwing every last bit of money out of you whilst they tell you how much you mean to them.

 And i realise that this is just one aspect of the whole arguement for why they wont release the code; but to me, it's the most important.

I just played a game on onlive.... and it was smooth and looked amazing.  I have a great internet connection.  thats why.  but i hope it succeeds!

I think the "good internet connection" was the problem. Only a few people have that.

Battlefield 3 needs new games modes to start with.....

Shame OnLive kinda failed. Maybe a technology being released to early Steam?s opportunity may still await Big Picture anyone!

No mods = reality in DRM based world like Onlive or Gaikai.

No one will buy new bf3 dlc if they can have free cool mods. Simple.

Bankrupt Sea... Seb you funny person you <3

Great show~

seb is funnier when he is presenting alone, and not pulling weird faces when somebody else is talking

Gaming modding ended the day the law suit came against a modder/group who created a star wars mod for C&C; Generals Zero hour. That was the begining of the end, when asked why the law suit was brought in, in the first place, the said developer mentioned "in  case we were wanting to build a simular game in the future"

So OnLive just changed owners..  

Gaming modification could be something that companies should explore more.

you know what would be the greatest BF3 mod OF ALL TIME...

Battle field 3 : starcraft wars

oh yahhhh.... :D

Im starting to get a bit bored of bf3 and uninstalled it from my pc atm, id re-install it instantly if they released mod tools and Project Reality was made for it. it would be amazing on bf3. i still play bf2 to this day because of PR. it makes a good game, amazing. shame Dice/EA. Shame.

I wish all those people at OnLive the best and hope that things will turn out for the better...

OnLive was just too ahead of it's time and didn't properly market to the stupid people of the world.

Truth is people are sick of having being tied down by subscriptions and it is a bane of gamer transactions. People inherently know this and thus, will be on the fence about any subscription based business models trying to make it into the norm.

Instead of putting the service for $10 a month they should have just listed it as a 'console' and sold it for about $280 and an additional $60 per yr after the initial 2-3 yrs that should be given for free. 

I say this for two reasons:

1) people like the norm, by labeling it as a console you do not have to deal with stigma of being overtly different thus people will be more inclined to try your product.

2) by listing it around the same price of a PS3, 360 and Wii you are saying that this product is equally good as those listed consoles.

There are 12 months in a year and in two years 12*2=24, 24*10= $240. If you list OnLive for $280 you would have made more than two years worth of subscriptions. As per the additional $60 it would amount to $5 a month but hold on; there's more to it as well. The 'next-next' gens are on their way and most people will be in favor of the new thus the life cycle of OnLive wouldn't even be that long in the first place. In addition to this large lump sums payed in one go are worth MUCH more than if it were payed monthly and throughout the course of a set amount of time. This is a standard principle that dates back centuries. Even Blizzard with it's subscription based WoW asks for $60 flat as the starting price. Just get a financial advisor to crunch the numbers for the ideal set price.

Please note that people have a tendency to be jealous, rmb when blueray came out?? Yeah... What bigots the masses are right?

You got to play it smart and fly under the radar when you are carrying a bag full of money.  You don't go bragging about "What is Cloud Gaming" and enlist the subscription based model on gamers which WoW players are actually sick and a little cynical about it. By introducing a vastly superior gaming model while shackling it to monetary model that people already loath is just asking to be ignored in favor of the underdog.

Bottom line, a great idea and a great product that did not get the proper glory it deserved due to poor marketing decisions. Putting ads on youtube is stupid when you consider the majority of gamers have AD BLOCKER!!

I was hoping that OnLive would be dead for good.  :/

I want this to be a solid blow to the games-as-services business model.

JAAAAAAAAAAANE

they wont release Mod tools because they are afraid of the Mod community will make/do a better job of what EA/Dice can ever do......

OnLive? Never heard about it.

Mods tools more likely in 10 years for BF3.

Those puns were ama ZING

Yay, Laderhosen! :P

Anyways, modding should definitely be implemented into Battlefield 3. Minecraft wouldn't be as popular as it is today without mods.