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[+] offerred a full priced contract but not FA. how do i politely turn down spot? decided...
Talk : : February 15, 2009
[+] Looking at the Master List, it appears everyone who didn't get into Chapin got waitli... 14 replies
Talk : : February 15, 2009
Looking at the Master List, it appears everyone who didn't get into Chapin got waitlisted. Are they a school that uses the waitlist as a polite no? Did anyone get a priority waitlist from them? Guess I should stop hoping. TIA.
14 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.15.09, 03:54 PM [ Flag ]-
I think they waitlist instead.
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 04:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
yes....rejected and relieved. you really cannot hold these lists to anything....some folks dont play who come here and many people who were/are involved in the process might not come here at all.
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 04:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I know of three rejects not everyone was WL, I do not know of any priority WL's.
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 04:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]thanks. I hope your dc got in somewhere you are happy with. Sitting on WLs and trying to figure out what is real.
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 04:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]thank you. she did, and once i iron out all the ambiguous terms of our fa, i think we are a go. better fit than chapin, btw and i knew that all along
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 04:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]thank you...she did. a v. good fit, too. and once i iron out afew question i have regarding our contract, its a go. gl to you.
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 05:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
They reject
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 04:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]They maintain priority WL.
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 04:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]NP: Do they let people know they are in the priority WL? thanks.
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 04:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Last year, people posted there were handwritten note on the WL letter.
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 05:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]on our reject letter there was handwritten note that said "and dont come back...." ;)
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 05:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]thanks. Did anyone get that this year?
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 06:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Has anyone received a handwritten note this year?
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 07:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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[+] wtf...we are going to vist mil ans she's demanding v-day gifts...now dh wants to go l... 15 replies
- but that's b/c DC stayed at ILs Fri-Sat and ILs were polite enough to say that it was fun (#2 doesn't sleep through the night and #1 gets up at the crack of dawn!). In your case, do you have anything "extra around the house that you can regift? Or is there a someplace easy (and cheap-ish)...
Talk : : February 15, 2009
wtf...we are going to vist mil ans she's demanding v-day gifts...now dh wants to go looking for something w/ 3 kids in the car...ugh
15 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.15.09, 06:41 AM [ Flag ]Bunch of flowers and be done. Who asks for gifts!!!
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 06:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]she does...she's a pita
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 06:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^she said she wants flowers candy and a gft
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 06:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]This makes me love my MIL more. She isn't a pita at all
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 06:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]you are so lucky. DH is lucky I'm even going to her damn apt..she's a pita too and starts demands while we are there
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 06:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Have fun!
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 06:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]:( thanks
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 06:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
She wants valentines day flowers candy and a gift from her son? Sounds pretty oedipal to me. Even just asking for gifts, regardless of whether the occasion is appropriate, is tasteless.
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 08:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Gave my MIL a gift...but that's b/c DC stayed at ILs Fri-Sat and ILs were polite enough to say that it was fun (#2 doesn't sleep through the night and #1 gets up at the crack of dawn!). In your case, do you have anything "extra around the house that you can regift? Or is there a someplace easy (and cheap-ish) to stop on the way? Or tell her that her gift is on back or order, but coming. What a PITA!
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 07:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Get her a Happy Meal toy.
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 07:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Fancy soap or lotion
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 07:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Or lingerie?
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 10:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Why, are you and she lovers? Or are your dh and mil . . .yech. To me, v-day gifts for a mother are at best a weird notion.
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 08:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Weird. Especially considering there's a whole 'nother holiday for that just around the corner.
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 09:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]LOL. Maybe there should be a new combo valentines/mothers' day. We could call it Mommasboys Day, or maybe Oedipines day.
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 10:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] ENOUGH WITH THE BORING SCHOOL POSTS!!!!!!! My God, get a life, you are all insane....... 2 replies
- I think this is the weekend everyone is getting their acceptance letters so hopefully after that these school posts will be gone. I honestly thing they need a separate heading besides General, Politics, and site feedback. They ought to have one just for schools so they rest of us don't have to sift through the 1000's of school posts while all other legitimate posts go ignored. I just don't get the school...
Talk : : February 14, 2009
ENOUGH WITH THE BORING SCHOOL POSTS!!!!!!! My God, get a life, you are all insane..............
2 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.14.09, 06:40 PM [ Flag ]I don't know what board you are reading but its all nannies all the time here tonight
[ Reply | Options ]02.14.09, 06:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I think this is the weekend everyone is getting their acceptance letters so hopefully after that these school posts will be gone. I honestly thing they need a separate heading besides General, Politics, and site feedback. They ought to have one just for schools so they rest of us don't have to sift through the 1000's of school posts while all other legitimate posts go ignored. I just don't get the school hype. NYC must have terrible public schools.
[ Reply | Options ]02.14.09, 08:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] which waitlists are real and which are polite nos? specifically curious about Riverda...
Talk : : February 14, 2009
[+] I just got laid off/fired today. I can't even find the words to explain how I feel -... 21 replies
- to you, UB. I know that part of their decision was based on unfavorable feedback so it makes it hurt that much more. I don't regret the feedback b/c it was based on doing the right thing at the time and maybe not the best political move but I stood up for myself....
Talk : : February 13, 2009
I just got laid off/fired today. I can't even find the words to explain how I feel -- I am the bread winner. Is it strange to say I feel sad, angry and embarassed?
21 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.13.09, 05:25 PM [ Flag ]i felt the same way. and i didn't even like my job and planned to leave it in a year or so.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 05:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I am really sorry. and no, i don't think any of those feelings are odd. I feel for you and i wish you luck finding work.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 05:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]you're in very very very good company.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 05:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I can't believe they laid you off on a Friday, and on a long weekend too - that is like the basic violation of HR101. FWIW, I felt the same way and it was the best thing that ever happened to me.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 05:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]i got laid off on a friday also
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 05:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]yeah, and the ironic part is that I am in HR
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 06:00 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
oh honey... it's sounds cliche, but it will all work out! went through the same thing too. best of luck sweetie! we're with ya!
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 05:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]how did it work out for you?
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 05:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]well it was before we had kids, but honestly, it really was the best thing that happened to me and i felt all of the same things you described. depressed, endless bottles of wine. But in the end dh got a promotion. it was all timing.. like it was written somewhere. I promise it will work out for you and your family!
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 05:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]so you weren't laid off in this economy?
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 06:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Kinda puts all the whining about what tt dear children get/might not get into into perspective, no? Sorry this is happening. But no reflection on you, hence should be no embarrassment.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 05:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I felt the same way. It took me a few days to even tell people.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 05:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]So sorry. When it happened to me, a friend sent me this. It made me feel slightly better. http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2005/june15/jobs-061505.html
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 05:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Best advice I can give, having gone through this last year: remind yourself continuously that you WILL find another great job and that you WILL recover from all of this. I found myself prone to bouts of panic (OMG, what if I’m unemployed for months and I run out of savings?!) and depression (I am completely un-employable.)… during those times, I had to force myself to remember that the whole unemployment experience was temporary, and therefore not worth a ton of stress. When you are employed again, you will look back on all the time you spent worrying and see it as wasted time—so just don’t waste the time in the first place. When you find yourself getting worked up, remember: you WILL find another great job and that you WILL recover from all of this.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 05:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]great response. ub at it's best.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 05:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ITTTTA... for once nice and encouraging ladies!
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 05:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
You should not feel embarrassed at all, i get the sad and angry, but it is not your fault and it is out of your hands and basically you were delivered a shit sandwich which nobody ever orders. Things will be rough for the next few days/weeks i am sure, but you will be ok, your family and friends will hopefully help you get thru it. good luck
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 05:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]sending you hugs sweetie....ooooooooooooo!
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 05:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]it's in no way strange to have those emotions, in fact it's natural and those feelings won't be going away anytime soon either, so it's good you're in touch with them now.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 05:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Heartfelt thanks, ladies. I knew I could turn to you, UB. I know that part of their decision was based on unfavorable feedback so it makes it hurt that much more. I don't regret the feedback b/c it was based on doing the right thing at the time and maybe not the best political move but I stood up for myself.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 06:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Obviously I don’t know the particulars of your situation, but take the news that this was based on feedback with a grain of salt. Lately I’ve heard a lot about big companies making “stealth layoffs”—calling people in individually to tell them that they’re being fired for performance reasons when, in fact, the company is just downsizing and seizing any reason to get rid of people. (But either way, you're gonna be okay!)
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 06:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] I'm Jewish, DH is not. Recently I've started going to synaggogue and at first Dh said... 40 replies
- I hope the OR didn't consider this a LOL, since it isn't funny in the least. There is killing of both Jewish children and Egyptian children in the story, which I agree isn't exactly kid-friendly. But (not to get political) describing Passover as a story about "killing Egyptian children" is pretty much the one-sided analysis I'd expect from an uneducated person commented on middle east politics....
Talk : : February 13, 2009
I'm Jewish, DH is not. Recently I've started going to synaggogue and at first Dh said he would go with me. He went once and was put off because it was so not like church (!). It's a conservative congregation. We were invited to a seder which is not a really religious thing, more like a dinner. He's not sure he'll come. I feel hurt and sad that we can't do this togehter. Anyone else in this position? How have you handled it?
40 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.13.09, 08:37 AM [ Flag ]There have been non-Jews at many seders I have attended. In fact the mantra of Passover is to welcome to the table all those who are hungry. I remember in high school my best friend - who is Indian - wanted to come, and in college one of my closest friends who was Christian made a point of going too. It's really a wonderful meal because it teaches about the importance of freedom - not just from physical bonds but from discrimination. So it's a good time to welcome - and be respectful of - differences. (Also I have heard some Christian religions believe Passover was Jesus' Last Supper. So, could be interesting for that reason as well.)
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]tell him you totally understand about the synagogue, which is all in a foreign language for one thing, but a Seder is just a family dinner with an sweet old story (about killing Egyptian children, but whatever).
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]lol
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I hope the OR didn't consider this a LOL, since it isn't funny in the least. There is killing of both Jewish children and Egyptian children in the story, which I agree isn't exactly kid-friendly. But (not to get political) describing Passover as a story about "killing Egyptian children" is pretty much the one-sided analysis I'd expect from an uneducated person commented on middle east politics.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]well, it's one of the themes. And of course Pharaoh started it, having all the Hebrew children killed
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I can imagine that a conservative synagogue would be more difficult. Did you not look at reform or other synagogues? There are some that really cater to interfaith couples and your dh might not feel as uncomfortable. Has your dh never been to a seder? Many non-Jews I know, especially in NYC, have attended at least one, especially if they are married to a Jew. Seders are much less religious (and more fun) than a synagogue service, so hopefully dh will try at least one.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]good point re: reform.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]More from OR above: Also, it's odd that OP didn't discuss this earlier with dh. There are lots of compromises you can make. For example, we spend Christmas with dh's family and do Passover with mine. The non-Jewish spouse doesn't have to attend synagogue regularly, but participating in home-based traditions is different.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:49 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]ITA. took the words right out of my mouth
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
religion, any one, has always been a reason for sadness, abuse, conflict. forget about synagogue and have a happy, meaningful life with your dh
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I disagree. This is a very broad statement.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
We agreed about these issues before we were married. We are raising our kids in one faith (judaism). We have seders/chanukah/purim and DH supports and participates. We checked out several schuls before and after we were married, DH is not a religious person so he will never really go. Makes me sad when I am there on holidays and hard b/c what kid likes sitting through a service, particularly when dad does not bother. I think in these situations the best plan would be to join a schul, make friends with families so kids feel like there are part of a fun community. DH will join in during the less religious type of events.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Even though you agreed before you were married, he may still have reservations about completely giving up his Christian roots. Think of a surrogate mother or someone who promises to give up her child to a family for adoption and then changes her mind. Why not compromise a little and let dc's go to church with him too?
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: This is a really odd answer. OR said her DH WASN'T A RELIGIOUS PERSON. She didn't say he wanted to attend church or take the kids. Just that he didn't want to attend a synagogue either. I think it's important to have a single religion for a child -- otherwise it's meaningless -- but of course the child could always explore other religions later.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Maybe he didn't think he was religious, but now that he's being overexposed to another religion he misses his own faith. It's like how you don't miss something until it's gone. He's not allowed to be Christian anymore so he misses it.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Again, for all you know her dh is Muslim or, believe it or not, raised as an atheist. It's very weird you are assuming facts here.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^^in fact, he may actually be of Jewish descent, but raised without a religion. But you are certain he wishes to take his children to church!
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Dh raised Catholic, but is agnostic. He knows my religion is important to me.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]So is he pining to start attending church again, as this poster believes?
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
HELLO. Did you read the original post? Try again and maybe you'll understand it this time. Here's a hint, look for the phrase: "put off because it was so not like church"
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]You are correct. I did miss that. However, I never got the impression from that post that the dh had expressed any interest in taking the kids to church, just that he found going to synagogue strange and that he was not a religious person. So I still don't understand why you'd leap to the conclusion that the responder was being uncompromising by forbidding dh to take the kids to church.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^^actually, I'm wrong. I think this OR is NOT the OP, this is an entirely different person giving advice to the OP. So this OR's did not say anything about her dh thinking synagogue was not like church -- just that dh wasn't a religious person. Later, she posted that her dh was raised Catholic but was agnostic, but that wasn't until after you chided her for not allowing her dh to take the kids to church.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
It is interesting that you are hurt and sad...What about him? How is he feeling? Alienated? Isolated? Does he have his own faith/practices? Can you find a way to balance and honor each other's different values? We have different beliefs and basically do religious things on our own. DCs go with me. But you need to try and understand how he feels.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]No kidding. OP automatically assumes her religion trumps.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Because that's the deal they made pre-marriage, and the dh is non-religious. Seems reasonable
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Point being, they made the deal before they actually had any kids. There is room for re-negotiation.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]First, the OP says nothing about any deal being made. Another poster who responded described this as her situation. I don't think that's the OP, since she said her dh doesn't want to attend a seder, and the other responder said her dh did "seders/chanukah/purim" but didn't go to services. However, this certainly is the kind of thing you should talk about before getting married and having kids, since it clearly is going to come up.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:20 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I agree that it should definitely be talked about before marriage because incompatibility in this issue won't work. However, I'm saying that the discussion probably happened before kids or when the kids were too young for religion. Now that the kids are becoming jewish, dh might feel like they're growing away from his background and want more of an equal compromise in religious up-bringing.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Well, I don't understand how you bring up your kids with both religions, so you do have to decide which faith you are going to believe. You can't believe in Jesus and also not believe in Jesus - then faith becomes meaningless. (Unless you join a Unitarian church, that is). However, that doesn't mean you can't celebrate the cultural aspects of the other religion with the spouse's family, which keeps dc aware of that parent's cultural traditions.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]What is religion? It's essentially a method of believing in God, right? Why not teach your dc's about God, tell them that different religions believe different things about God, and then educate them on both of your religions? They can participate in religious and secular practices of both religions and then "choose" when they're a little older.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Do you know of anyone who has done this successfully? My dh was more or less raised this way, and it left him with pretty much no religion and not really understanding how worshipping together in a church or synagogue service can be a meaningful spiritual experience. I seriously think the best approach is then to join a Unitarian Church, because at least there is some spirituality associated with all religions in a common worship service.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I have never heard of the non-Jewish half of a mixed marriage refusing to go to a seder. Most seders I have been too (and they're all traditional seders) have had at least one non-Jewish guest, and they seem to enjoy it. As to being put off because synagogue is not like church -- I can see that, and it's a good reason for him not to go. It's a bad reason to switch to Reform -- kind of creepy, in fact, to select a synagogue on the grounds of it being 'more like church.'
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Sounds a bit FAKE that you are discovering NOW that you want to attend services in a conservative congregation.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]how are you bringing up dc's? will they be bar mitzvahed?
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]We are in a reversed situation so I can offer some advice. It may be different from a guys pt of view, but still. When I married DH, I wasn't conservative and he was... he is also from a different culture than I (we aren't Christians). I enjoyed participating on a lot of things that he wanted to do. After we got married, the experience was not one of an observer, but of a spouse, someone expected to participate. We've been married 8yrs, and his culture is anathema to me. Its happened gradually, but the subtle push to participate in something I don't believe in, the pressure from MIL to do one thing or the other for DC that I don't like, the constant expectation from DH that 'DC need strong cultural roots, and since you don't care about yours... we should go with this', has actually made me turn to my own roots and try to incorporate that into our lives. Its weird, I know. But let your DH do what he wants. You have to love him for who/what he is... an agnostic christian may not want to be participating in jewish events, religious or not.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]ITTTTA
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
a dh: If I could choose my own religion (I was raised Catholic but am an atheist) I would choose Judaism. Not the religion so much as the sense of community.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Would you want the constant persecution also?
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
np: Could you look at Reform synagogues? They can be a lot of fun. There are often a lot of interfaith families, there's more English in the services, etc. Your dh might feel more at ease there. Also, shop around - try out different synagogues. We went to several before finding one that really felt like a good fit for us.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I don't understand how you can marry someone and not know their feelings about this.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 09:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Know definitively that once you reach or pass the age of 33, your husband regrets mar... 30 replies
Talk : : February 13, 2009
Know definitively that once you reach or pass the age of 33, your husband regrets marrying you. Politically incorrect, but true. By that age you're considered an albatross, a rapidly depreciating asset, and ultimately the source of debt, frustration and skull numbing misery. Men only want companionship and relatively effort free sex, not co-comingled financial profiles and a compromised claustrophobic existence . . . they only marry because you demand it . . . Happy Valentine's Day.
30 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.13.09, 07:24 AM [ Flag ]You were stung as a child, weren't you?
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 07:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]have you tried drugs? they might help.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 07:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]DH here. You are very insightful.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 07:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]"know definitively" LOLOLOLOL. a man told you this and now you are depressed. see somebody, you need help.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 07:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]DH Here. I am sorry, you were obviously going through something, but you are so wrong!
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 07:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]This is the "you must take your husband's name or you are selfish" poster, isn't it? Go take care of your children. Signed a woman who happily took her dh's name, but thinks that poster's an idiot.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 07:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]and we only want you for money and heavy lifting...and usually after the first year of marriage only fantasize about your better looking richer friends...now go away you ugly little man.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 07:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]is this a man or a woman posting? i'm picturing a man who married his wife for her looks/sex appeal and so did a lot of his friends. always wondered how those marriages ended up and i guess now i know.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 07:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]It's our resident women-hating troll.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 07:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]np i think a women, who's husband left her for a younger more attractive women
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 07:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
not mine--i make 3x the amount of money he makes----if anyone should be worried it is him!
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 07:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm sorry you feel this way. I'm 35, and I feel great and look great. I actually think I'm much more attractive and interesting than I was 10,15 years ago. Now, I'm much more self-assured, a much better cook, and just feel better about myself overall.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 07:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]What if you married after the age of 33?
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]i was just wondering that myself.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]What I was thinking too. I married at 32. It is now 8 years later and I am extremely happy with him, and he with me. We have 2 great kids and are really genuinely good friends. We also enjoy sex a lot together. I look better than I did in my 20's and am smarter, more relaxed and more confident. My boobs are saggier, but that's easily taken care of with a nice demi from Eres! ;)
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
oh god i've got to get OFF THIS BOARD
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]DH here. You nailed it. If I could wave off every 27 year old guy who was thinking about popping the question, I damn sure would. Men propose between 27 and 32 because the dreaded couple's dinner parties come into play during that time period. You want to be mature? You want to maintain your current circle of friends? You want to fit in? Then you need to propose. BIG MISTAKE.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Oh don't be ridiculous. This is such a tired myth. It is well established fact that men are much happier married, are less likely to die early, are less depressed, less suicidal and get MUCH more sex than their single counterparts. For women, it is the inverse. They are less satisfied, work harder, are more stressed out and contribute to the household in terms of childcare, housework, AND bringing in income to a greater degree than do men. The day men are routinely considered househusbands, or the day we stop saying they "help" with housework is the day we're truly making strides here.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]So true!
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]ITA. My parents got divorced after 35+ years and my mother has done so much better as a single person, and my father (who is the one that wanted the divorce) has done so much worse. It's very clear who the "albatross" was in their relationship.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Isn't that so? I wonder why the myth persists with such strength. Women being not so jokingly referred to as ball and chain, and the ones who manipulate men into marriage and so on. I smell bullshit. I call bullshit.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 10:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]it's because men think that what's stopping them from getting laid by 23 year olds is their wife - but it's really that they are also over 35 and aren't now considered creepy and gross to those young girls. But they don't find that out until they get rid of the ball and chain that actually made sure they didn't have hair growing out of their nose.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 11:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]are now not aren't now. sorry.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 11:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]This happen to my BIL's parents. Father wanted a divorce after 41 years. Where the heck are you going after 41 years! But his mother looks fabulous. Started traveling all over the world with a senior citizen's group and met a very nice male companion who does a mean disco hustle. The father did date a younger woman and she seemed nice enough but they eventually broke up because of his health concerns.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 12:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Sorry, but I think you're wrong.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 11:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]This guy posted this yesterday as well. Get a life!
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 11:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Ha. Ha. And the goods he's pushing is probably not all that. The men who think like OP have thinning hair, think jack-hammering away at vagina makes them a sex-machine, when it makes them sexually boring, don't dress their age, and are usually the old guy in the club or what comedians call "Drink Guy". LOL We've all met these types of guys. Over 40 making fools of themselves over 20 years old who are dogging them out in the female bathroom at work or in a club. If these men really knew what young women were saying about them, they would fall on their needs a beg a woman closer to their age to marry them. 20 year olds do not like old man smell and looking old guy pubes.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 11:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Stupidest post of the week award.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 02:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]pearls of wisdom from the lips of a pathetic loser of a man (no doubt disgustingly unattractive and with very bad breath).
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 02:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]do you really think you are hurting anyone other than yourself with this blather? you made me laugh out loud, but then i paused and felt sorry for you for needing to do this. are you in an unhappy marriage or just hoping others are? you really have an inflated sense of your power to wound -- believe me, you did not cause any hurt, just shaking of heads or laughs. thanks, and happy valnetine's day to you, as well!
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 02:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Ethical Culture or Columbia Grammar: which would you choose and why? TIA 15 replies
- I don't know what this means. THe kids celebrate MLK day. That is the only thing I've seen in the curriculum that is at all "political". The culture of the school is one that promotes tolerance in its actions,s but its not taught in the curriculum....
Talk : : February 12, 2009
Ethical Culture or Columbia Grammar: which would you choose and why? TIA
15 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.12.09, 07:33 PM [ Flag ]Columbia Grammar - EC was way too into having parents over-involved and is a bit too rigid in its progressiveness for my taste.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 07:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ECFS obviously. I doubt anyone chooses CGPS over Ethical Culture. One is a safety school, the other isn't.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 08:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]No such thing as a safety school.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 07:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]These kinds of posts are so useless.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 11:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Last year I would have said ECFS in a heartbeat. But over the past year I learned my dc just needs more structure and putting him in ECFS would be a mistake. While I know it has a better academic reputation and I love the campus in ms, I couldn't do that to my child. I would do CGPS and if I felt he needed more, I'd apply him out later on. But you need to really know your child's learning style and be honest about it. Don't just go by tier or reputation or what YOU love.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 06:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]You said a mouthful sister!
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 11:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Most people would say ECFS, but when it came to applying (last year), I didn't even include ECFS on my list (though I did apply to CGPS).
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 07:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]A family member chose CGPS over Ethical for her kids because the oldest needed more structure than ECFS provides. They're very very happy with their choice.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 07:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]we know people at both and both are good schools. personally EC is too overtly and aggressively political--its very very liberal and that is really all over the curriculum. i am very middle of the road but i find it disturbing
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 07:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]does Fieldston Lower have the same reputation?
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 07:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I think FL is even more so, actually. Especially the "race" politics. But, it is very structured, so academically it is different than EC (and even more "classically" progressive)
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 11:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]i would agree..........but EC will have a big notice out front anti death penalty protest .............or the like
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 01:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I don't know what this means. THe kids celebrate MLK day. That is the only thing I've seen in the curriculum that is at all "political". The culture of the school is one that promotes tolerance in its actions,s but its not taught in the curriculum.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 11:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
At EC and wish we were at CG. My DC is mildly learning disabled and EC is a poor fit. If we were at CG we'd be able to get what we need without considering moving schools.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 11:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]would you mind giving a teeny more info on type of learning disabled? had been thinking OCFS would be right for my DC but DC has occular processing issue -- should improve over time but is this something CG would handle better?
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 04:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Was listening to Collegiate boys on crosstown today. They were talking about science... 11 replies
Talk : : February 12, 2009
Was listening to Collegiate boys on crosstown today. They were talking about science test - very polite, well spoken, and so smart. Afterward, they started talking about girls and forthcoming baseball season. Is it just me, or are Collegiate boys more "normal" than other boys' schools boys (i.e. Buckley boys scare me).
11 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.12.09, 06:18 PM [ Flag ]i love those little buckley boys. why do they scare you? otoh, i know a bunch of adults who went to collegiate and they are all stand-up guys! don't live close enough to see them during the day
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 06:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Have to agree - when we visited Collegiate for our playgroup, I was impressed by the well mannered boys around us. They held open doors etc. A real surprise to me.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 06:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]whoa, fast deletion!!!
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 06:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]>>> oops, now i see you posted twice. i meant the totally tasteless rape comment.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 06:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Delete this and keep the anit-semetic sentiment abounding here on UB? God I hope they don't delete this.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 06:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I'd wholeheartedly agree with you on both counts, especially the Buckley one.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 06:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: why? what's wrong with the buckley boys? i see them everyday b/c i live between the school and the gym. they seem so well mannered too.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 06:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Well mannered yes. But soulless.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 06:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]could you give some examples? that's a pretty blanket statement about a bunch of little boys!
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 06:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Hijack - Who FC'ed Collegiate?
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 06:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP: i know collegiate is very competitive, but boys seemed more well-rounded, school must provide wholesome experience. i've met 1 great buckley boy before, but for the most part, school puts off a very discomforting image (all about wealth). we're not applying until next year, but collegiate is only ss i'm considering for ds.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 06:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Was listening to Collegiate boys on crosstown today. They were talking about science... 4 replies
Talk : : February 12, 2009
Was listening to Collegiate boys on crosstown today. They were talking about science test - very polite, well spoken, and so smart. Afterward, they started talking about girls and forthcoming baseball season. Is it just me, or are Collegiate boys more "normal" than other boys' schools boys (i.e. Buckley boys scare me).
4 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.12.09, 06:18 PM [ Flag ]Don't kid yourself, honey. If you were alone with them in a dark bar and they thought they could get away with it, they'd rape you in an instant.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 06:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: ewww.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 06:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]BUckley boys waaaaaay more likely.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 06:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
this is the stupidest post ever...........
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 06:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] DH gets Sports Illustrated. Was looking at the photos last night. Depressing. 39 replies
- Know definitively that once you reach or pass the age of 33, your husband regrets marrying you. Politically incorrect, but true. By that age you're considered an albatross, a rapidly depreciating asset, and ultimately the source of debt, frustration and dulling misery. Men only want companionship and relatively effort free sex, not co-comingled...
Talk : : February 12, 2009
DH gets Sports Illustrated. Was looking at the photos last night. Depressing.
39 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.12.09, 01:15 PM [ Flag ]The issue with the models, or just a regular ol' issue with the athletes.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 01:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]the issue with the models.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 01:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Oh, okay. Though those women are pretty stunning, my friend who worked for SI, still had to do a lot air brushing on those images. So take some solace in that. Men like eye candy so I wouldn't take his gawking at Heidi Klum personally unless he says, how come your breast don't look like that? Then you have my permission to clothesline him like Hulk Hogan. LOL.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 01:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Remind yourself that those women don't even look like those women (IRL). Did you see that Jessica Alba ad (Campari, I think) where someone got ahold of the pre- and post-airbrushing versions? You know that all those photos get doctored, but the before vs. after is really pretty shocking.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 01:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]yes, but DH does not know that.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 01:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Of course he does. But he doesn't care.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 01:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Ha, I order SI for my dh, except due to some *glitch* it gets delivered to my office. so oooops guess he won't be getting his swimsuit edition. I think it is sick- i looked at it, it would be fine if it were classy models in suits we could actually wear, but these women are naked, save for a hand or flower placement someplace. If my dh wants to look at porn, he can buy a porn mag.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 01:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Controlling, obnoxious, and, since he certainly knows it's swimsuit month and can pick up a copy at any newsstand, useless. Only thing that can be accomplished by this is resentment, and giving him the correct suspicion that you take a censoring and controlling approach.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 01:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Somehow, I don't think she's worried about what he thinks of her.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 03:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Puzzled DH here: Why would you rather have him buying porn mags than looking at a SI swimsuit issue?
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 01:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]seriously!
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 01:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]honest answer needed -- when you do look at these photos, do you wish your wife had a body like that or something close to it?
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 01:59 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I don't really connect the two. Really.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 02:07 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Same puzzled DH here. When I go to an opera, I don't think "I wish my dw had a voice like that." In fact, until just now it never occurred to me to think that.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 02:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]OOps- [cont.] My wife is not and has never been a singer at any pro or amateur level. Now, I happen to feel my dw has a beautiful and alluring singing voice. Intellectually, I know she's not about to audition for the Met so I guess in that sense her voice is "worse" -- but even that is a weird thought. Emotionally, it's hard for me even to conceive that Deborah Voigt's voice and hers are in competition in any way.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 02:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
when i look at pics like that any thought like that is out the window. Its just "ugga ugga, me likes it" Questions like, "what would that model make of middle aged not really very fit guy with 3 kids" are likewise totally irrelevant. But let's not pretend women don't do pretty much the same thing. George Clooney for you on line 3.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 02:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Well, in this scientific survey of 2 dh's, the results are a unanimous "no". That's better evidence than the autism/vaccine link ever had.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 03:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Seriously, is there an answer to the previous question -- Why is porn better than SI? Or did I just bite at a troll here, and the censoring wife is a fake?
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 02:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]i thnk for her its that she pays for SI, porn will come out of his own pocket. so to speak.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 02:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm not bitter, controlling dw above, but looking at her answer, I bet she would say that jacking off to SI is sort of having it both ways. Its porn but without the shame and stigma. So if he wants wacking material, he has to take the shame too, no free lunches.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 02:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Hmm. I think I understand, though it seems a bit twisted. I think I understand better the straightforward feelings about it expressed by the OP.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 03:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Brooklyn Freaking Decker. Oh my absolute god.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 01:59 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Know definitively that once you reach or pass the age of 33, your husband regrets marrying you. Politically incorrect, but true. By that age you're considered an albatross, a rapidly depreciating asset, and ultimately the source of debt, frustration and dulling misery. Men only want companionship and relatively effort free sex, not co-comingled financial profiles and a compromised claustrophobic existence . . . they only marry because you demand it . . .
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 02:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Divorced DH here. Oh man, where's that cut and paste function. This is going in my blog.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 02:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]You're sad and I feel sorry if you speak from personal experience-whichever gender you may be. GL.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 02:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Hilarious! Hey, I'm an almost 37 year old DW and I regret marriage as well. You guys don't all age gracefully, and if you're not needed for your income then why should we bother?
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 02:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]LOL. Men seem to think the goods they are peddling are right up there with the hope diamond. Receding hairlines, hair growing out of strange places, occasional limp-dickness, and bad dressing. Yikes!
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 02:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Could you please modify that to say 'some' men? Plenty of us are well aware that you judge us that way, and are appropriately sad and insecure because of it.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 02:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Oh, I was just responding to douche-bag dad who said our husbands regret marrying us. Mine probably does, but I'm gangsta. If he wants to leave, I'm like don't let door hit you on the way out. LOL. Seriously, I think my husband likes being around me as I should have been the last woman he should date. A young mom, with a 6 and 7 year old, working like a dog and putting myself through grad school. He should have ran the other way. But I do have a body like J.Lo. Yikes!
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 02:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]lol! Ok, blowjob for you! But the others, feh!
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 02:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
You ought to get together with the puritan lady who steals her dh's SI. You could be very happy together biting at each other's ankles.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 02:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]LOL Speak for yourself.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 03:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Honestly, I would not feel threatened with DH looking at SI, because I know that he knows that not even in an alternative universe would he ever get one of these women to slap him the face let alone date him. LOL. But I do feel a tiny bit jealous when I see him looking at his industry music magazines and they have some respected, critically acclaimed rock chick on the cover. She doesn't even have to be particularly good looking but I know that the fact she can rock out turns my husband on. And don't let them be a bass player (his instrument) he really loses his mind. LOL. Yikes!
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 02:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]take bass lessons.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 03:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Ha. Ha. You are definitely speaking to the musically impaired. LOL. But I can sing pretty well and have sang back-up, basically oohs, yays on some of my husband's tracks. He says I sound like Minnie Riperton (telling my real age). He did say he'd teach my guitar so I can have my own jam sessions with the new baby.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 03:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Take him up on it! Women with guitars are sexy.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 03:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I am. We're going to Guitar Center to get me one of those "starter guitars".
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 03:59 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Great! Get one that's good enough that you'll enjoy playing it. Yamahas are the best quality & best sounding cheap acoustic guitars out there. But if dh is a musician, he'll have his own views on this -- though if his views disagree with mine, they're wrong. :-)
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 04:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
DH here. Don't get depressed. Was he showing off the issue to you and making snarky comments - probably not. I look at the issue too and then put it away. Unless he's rich or looks like some Hollywood star, they're out of his league. I know they're out of mine. You can't ask him no to fantasize, except in front of the kids.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 03:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] our psd sent out a mass email to whole pre-k class. just telling everyone they tried... 7 replies
- Our PSD sent a mass letter, very politely worded, telling all moms to stay the hell out of the office and to stop barging in unannounced!...
Talk : : February 12, 2009
our psd sent out a mass email to whole pre-k class. just telling everyone they tried for all and to hang in there. anyone btdt??
7 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.12.09, 10:34 AM [ Flag ]meaningless but thoughtful of her
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 10:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: I saw it more as covering herself when people start claiming she worked harder for one child than another.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 10:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
In other words, please don't call me now or after you receive your letters. I need a vacation. Please leave me alone and good luck.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 10:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]op: totally --i got it
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 10:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]NP: I totally disagree - it's just a "be nice to me please" letter.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 12:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
what school?
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 11:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Our PSD sent a mass letter, very politely worded, telling all moms to stay the hell out of the office and to stop barging in unannounced!
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 01:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Reality check please -- my 3 1/2 year old twins are very polite and well adjusted at ... 2 replies
Talk : : February 12, 2009
Reality check please -- my 3 1/2 year old twins are very polite and well adjusted at school, to the point where we put them in separate classes and it's totally fine. However, neither will count past 5 and identify shapes, and forget about writing their names -- is this normal? TIA
2 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.12.09, 10:34 AM [ Flag ]yes. don't worry.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 10:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]sigh. 3 year olds are not required or expected to these things. Ask your moms if you can.
[ Reply | Options ]02.12.09, 11:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] How do the waitlists work? Does the PSD do the legwork for you or we need to call the... 4 replies
- I think it's up to you--to politely press your case....
Talk : : February 11, 2009
How do the waitlists work? Does the PSD do the legwork for you or we need to call the schools ourselves directly?
4 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.11.09, 06:42 PM [ Flag ]I think it's up to you--to politely press your case.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 06:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]how do you "press your case?"
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 06:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]telephone calls
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 07:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
we had to press, but psd backed us up on schools she had a connection with.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 06:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Posts on OctoMom are so tired. Like it or not her many kids are here - donate towards... 26 replies
- sure. it's just another social outlet for expressing thoughts, view, etc. were you around when the election was going on. there were a lot of political hashing, etc. it's good and healthy to do that, including doing that on ub....
Talk : : February 11, 2009
Posts on OctoMom are so tired. Like it or not her many kids are here - donate towards her kids or zip it.
26 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.11.09, 05:38 PM [ Flag ]I think it should be examined and maybe this will prompt the ivf medical field to start self-regulating a little stricter. There needs to be some checks and balances.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 05:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]On UB? I think lessons have been learned.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 05:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]sure. it's just another social outlet for expressing thoughts, view, etc. were you around when the election was going on. there were a lot of political hashing, etc. it's good and healthy to do that, including doing that on ub.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 05:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Those kids should be adopted out into families who can properly take care of them.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 05:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I suppose ther aren't horror stories about maltreated adopted kids.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 05:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Sorry, but a person with NO income other than dole money and parents of modest means can't possibly care for 14 children. Fact.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 05:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]And that whatisthecouples name that have 13 kids and still going are better parents?
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 05:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]The Duggars? Yes they are better parents.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 05:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]having 13 dcs is child abuse. no matter how much money they have.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 06:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]They have 18 kids, actually. A few are over 18. No IVF. Would I do this? No. But I have a hell of a lot more respect for them than I do for Nadya Suleman.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 06:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]itda. why should i respect someone for not knowing when to stop i know someone who was one of fourteen and he claims it was tantamount to child abuse. he wrote a book about it actually. i see the duggers and nadya suleman in the same light.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 06:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Jim Bob Duggar has fairly significant real estate holdings, actually. They get NO govt money.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 05:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]They did at one point. Someone dug it up from one of those cable news shows. Not that I'm holding it against them, but they are not all that pristine themselves.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 06:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]they also pay NO taxes.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 06:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
LOL. I gave (and will continue to give) when I send my big tax checks. So I'll comment if I like, thanks.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 05:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]exactly!
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 05:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Ah so you begrudge her a few food stamps???
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 05:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: as well as the disability payments made for her kids suffering from disabilities.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 05:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Yes. Yes I do. Nothing short of a total abdication of responsibility to purposely get pregnant seven times over when you have NO means of supporting yourself and your children. Her attitude toward the autistic one is gross (seems thrilled that he needs her SO much). The woman belongs in a mental hospital and her kids should be placed for adoption.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 05:59 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Don't forget about the $50,000 grand of debt she's in and guess who will pay off that debt.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 06:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I do. Don't forget her <cough, cough> student loans and disability checks she gets. For one kid with ADHD and another with a speech delay. Give me a damn break.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 06:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
You do realize that you've just contributed to giving her more attention, right?
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 06:07 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]When she gets on TV and allows cameras into the hospital so everyone can gawk at her much too small babies, I'll talk about her all I want. I can't stand these high order multiple parents and their begging.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 06:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I think it should be noted that weird as we may think it - we was just "using up" the embryos from past IVF attempts. Apparently she had used 6 embryos on each of her past attempts and all but one had resulted in a single live birth (one set of twins) so it was not off the mark for her to expect one child out of this.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 06:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Only a quack of an MD would go along with that request. In any case, given that she's poor with no income, one would *think* six kids would be more than enough.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 06:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Her doctor was a quack. She should have had no more than 2 embryos implanted during each IVF for her age range. At the most 3 if she wanted to be pushy. An irresponsible quack doctor treating a crazy ass bitch for infertility. Recipe for disaster. But fertility treatments are so unregulated in this country, it's pretty much a free-for-all.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 06:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] The new preschool director at our school just spoke to me SO RUDELY. I don't even kno... 18 replies
- you want to get in the directors face about a slight, go for it. Plus I'm Black and as soon as a White person sees a Black woman getting tense they become afraid and see a bitter Black bitch. So I always maintain my politeness while still hoping to get something positive out of a tense exchange....
Talk : : February 11, 2009
The new preschool director at our school just spoke to me SO RUDELY. I don't even know what to do. Who the F does she think she is?
18 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.11.09, 07:55 AM [ Flag ]Some preschool directors are nut cases (Ronnie of WMS comes to mind) and yet if you want to apply to privates you'll have to kiss her ass (or pull your DC out)
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 07:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]was it really rude or maybe you just took it wrong? not being snarky just asking
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 08:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP-It was all in the tone and delivery. The message wasn't that bad, but the attitude was unbelievable.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 08:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]sorry that sucks - is she new to this game? what a time of year for her then!
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 08:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
This is a stressful time for all concerned, nerves are raw.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 08:02 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Kill her with kindness. I find with people like that, the nicer I get the more thrown off their game they get. And ask specific questions, especially if she said something so rude and outrageous. Also, follow up with a question. That will really confuse her and force her to speak to you respectfully on the next go-round.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 08:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]ITA
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 08:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]lol! are you for real?
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 08:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
oh please! anyobe who has been around for anytime will see right through that and hate you for it. that sickly sweet bs in the midst of a tense exchange is nothing more than pure hostility, and if OP wants her psd to help her, she should definitely avoid that tactic. see ths all the time among pta ladies, and they are usually bubbling over with pushiness and hostility. most would go out of their way to foil an a hole like that.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 08:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: its a woman thing! very hateful, I agree!
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 08:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Say what!!! I agreed with this above, and what the heck are you saying? It's very hateful to reply with kindness when someone is rude? I should be rude back? So what exactly is the "man" thing to do -- challenge the woman to a fight outside?
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 09:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Good one. I didn't realize the woman was using a rude tone. Honestly, not a lot you can do about someone's tone. But if the director had said something completely out of line, I say question her on it without being aggressive. I'm not sure what she could say that would be so upsetting to a parent. So I would need an example.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 10:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Well, I agree with you that it does depend on the circumstances. If someone is just rude out of the blue, I think niceness can be worthwhile. That's very different than being in the middle of an argument with someone.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 10:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
she wasn't saying be nice in the face of rudeness. she was saying to kill them with kindness, ask lots of questions to confuse them, etc. that sort of mockery is apparent, and anyone with half a brain knows they are dealing with a high level of hostility. sheesh..
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 12:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
So what they will hate me. I just don't always believe in responding to rudeness with rudeness especially if the situation involves my child. There are rude people everywhere and I see no need to be rude back or aggressive as it usually leads to nowhere. Doesn't mean you have to take someone's hit lying down but I have no interest in being hostile with anyone. If you want to get in the directors face about a slight, go for it. Plus I'm Black and as soon as a White person sees a Black woman getting tense they become afraid and see a bitter Black bitch. So I always maintain my politeness while still hoping to get something positive out of a tense exchange.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 09:02 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Maybe you were being a PITA and she was fed up with it and put you in your place and now you think SHE spoke to YOU so rudely. A likely scenario.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 08:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I agree. She's probably sick of being pestered for information when you'll have a letter in hand soon enough. It's all over but the waiting. Chill out.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 09:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Your child is probably a pain in the butt that is why. She is sick of you too.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 10:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] What are the second tier ongoings in Manhattan? Would love to know ss and coed, esp. ... 27 replies
- no: no, actually, she named 6. YOU should learn to be polite, particularly when you're wrong!...
Talk : : February 10, 2009
What are the second tier ongoings in Manhattan? Would love to know ss and coed, esp. k-12.
27 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.10.09, 06:38 PM [ Flag ]girls' csh and nbs
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 06:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]csh second tier? only accept erbs 95 or better -- how can that be second tier??
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 06:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I know dc (unconnected, fwiw) who've gotten in with MUCH lower than that. -np
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 06:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]8os
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]CSH is 2nd tier at best
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 08:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]and you are the living proof that the whole tier system as it exists on UB is bullocks.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 10:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
NBS very top of second tier possibly tt. CSH and MM clear third tier. Same with Ramaz and Heschel.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
op: so, 3rd tier would be which ones then?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Hewitt and Marymount
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'd say Marymount 3rd, Hewitt 4th
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: the is no offical rank of any schools. however, overtime on UB, a group of 7 schools seem to be now known as the UB TT: Trinity, Horace Mann, Colegiate, Spence, Chapin and Brearley. Beyond that we are all just making it up!
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]you named 6, and misspelled one.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Dalton. Collegiate.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 08:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]she named seven. before you criticize spelling, you should learn to count
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 05:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]nope she named 6, then added Dalton and corrected spelling of Collegiate.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 10:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]no: no, actually, she named 6. YOU should learn to be polite, particularly when you're wrong!
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 10:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
H- 4th; MM is 3rd
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 10:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Friends? BWL?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]2nd, 4th
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 08:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
ECFS - though I think Fieldston HS is TT
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 08:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Same with St Ann's
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 08:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]i thought the idea of TT was based on college placement so if Fieldston is TT then by default doesn't all of ECFS have to be??
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 03:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]psst, noone wants to make that connection.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 04:49 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]:) I guess being logical about it would test the vaunted six!
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 04:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]exactly.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 04:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]vaunted 7
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 10:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
co-ed: Riverdale, ECFS, Friends, St Ann's, maybe a couple of others downtown or in brooklyn; boys: St B, St D (some debate about Buckley and AS as to 2nd v 3rd)
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 10:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Are the waitlists going to move this year? 17 replies
- Happened to DF last year and her daughter goes there now. Good luck. I think that during the WL period DF was very polite but expressed very clear interest. She really liked the DOA, who was very straight with her....
Talk : : February 10, 2009
Are the waitlists going to move this year?
17 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.10.09, 04:38 PM [ Flag ]i say yes
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 04:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Ohhhh yeaaaa
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 04:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]sarcasm?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 04:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]nope. The lists are gonna move
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 04:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Did for us last year. But the golden rule is to remind them you will give $$ if accepted. Say it tastefully though. And follow through.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 06:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Kool-Aid guy?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:07 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I hope so.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 04:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]At tt or third tier? Doubt the top schools will have much more movement than usual. The least desirable schools, though, will likely go a good long way down the wls.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 04:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]we were told the dd is being waitlisted at Spence but is high on their interest list- i am trying to figure out how seriouly I should take this.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 04:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Ask your psd. Did you write a fc or ily?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 04:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]we wrote a ily
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 04:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Maybe psd could get a better grasp on what "high on their interest list" means. I know two dds who got in off wl inside the last few years, fwiw.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 04:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
wow, that is highly specific feedback. I'm jealous! Ours was much more nebulous ("interest" only)
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 05:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Happened to DF last year and her daughter goes there now. Good luck. I think that during the WL period DF was very polite but expressed very clear interest. She really liked the DOA, who was very straight with her.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 06:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]for which grade ?
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 06:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Hunter too, or just private?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 05:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I would think Hunter would move less - people who would normally choose private over Hunter might hesitate due to the economy & those who might consider another public wouldn't even think about it given the budget cuts.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 05:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Obama, Obama, and now what? You voted for him and we are going into depression. 60 replies
- np Would be better with McCain (without Palin--he was a total idiot to choose her and lost the election on account of her, imo). "Yes We Can" turned into the politics of fear (and, eventually, unprecedented inflation) inside, what, two weeks....
Talk : : February 10, 2009
Obama, Obama, and now what? You voted for him and we are going into depression.
60 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.10.09, 02:45 PM [ Flag ]no it's not - a severe recession maybe, but not a depression - So how can we tell the difference between a recession and a depression? A good rule of thumb for determining the difference between a recession and a depression is to look at the changes in GNP. A depression is any economic downturn where real GDP declines by more than 10 percent. A recession is an economic downturn that is less severe
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 02:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]A recession is when your neighbor is out of work; a depression is when you are out of work.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 06:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]By the time this "recession" is over, the GDP will unfortunately probably have declined by more than 10% (although I really don't think it will be as bad as the Great Depression).
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Do you think McCain would have fixed it already? Come on people! This problem started a LONG time ago.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 02:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]accepting your premise, how woudl things be better with mccain? or clinton, or anyone else who ran?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 02:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np Would be better with McCain (without Palin--he was a total idiot to choose her and lost the election on account of her, imo). "Yes We Can" turned into the politics of fear (and, eventually, unprecedented inflation) inside, what, two weeks.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 02:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]what do you think Mccain would have done that would have worked?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
depressions are really protracted versions of recessions. In February 2008, the unemployment rate in the U.S. was 4.8 percent [source: Bureau of Labor Statistics]. But it wasn't until March 2008 that economists began to seriously consider that the economy was entering a recession. By contrast, during the Great Depression unemployment grew from 3 percent before the stock market crash of 1929 to 25 percent in 1933 [source: Bernanke]. In that same period, the U. S. gross domestic product fell by nearly half, from $103.8 billion to $55.7 billion
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 02:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I agree, particularly with these NYC zealots. When people in NYC realize that Obama/Geithner are clueless, that Pelosi/Reid have gone hog-wild on useless spending, when treasury yields spike because people lose confidence in the US government, when bashing the banks and bankers now so popular in Washington leads to a 50% fall in NYC real estate prices, when unemployment which is 7.6% rises to 10.6% (as predicted in the Tristate area by UBS last week), when NYC budget deficits return the city to the reduced services, white flight, crime, and crushing tax burdens--then, and only then, will people realize that Obama has made things much much worse than they were under Bush.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]frightening, but true.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:07 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ITA. It's scary now--can't imagine the nightmare that will be the next several years. The emperor will eventually be shown to have no clothes, and the damage will have been done.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]will only be four years, he is clueless.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Hope you're right. Hope the reps come up with a good, strong candidate (no way an independent can win) who doesn't pull nonsense like choosing someone with an IQ of 90 for a running mate.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Dont forget: when equity markets in 2009 perform like 2008 (ie down 35%); when high yield defaults top 25% with historically unprecedented near-zero recoveries in restrucutring due to the leverage put on in 2005-2007 on various deals; when GE loses its AAA rating, and unable to roll its 7 day commercial paper, suddenly becomes at risk of pulling a Lehman/Bear; when GM, Ford, Chrysler, and the rest of the auto supply industry file for chapter 11 but because of a lack of DIP financing end up as liquidating chapter 7s; etc.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]What's really frightening is that I truly believe some of his supporters will never acknowledge any faults he displays. They'll just continue the "oh, NYC wasn't that bad in the 70's, who needs the bankers" rationalizations. And I'm not Republican, btw.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ITA. I'm not a rep, either.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]The teflon will wear off when people lose their jobs, are forced to take pay cuts, when they can't get financing or credit, when their retirement account values shrivel, when real estate comps trade at half of what they mentally have benchmarked against in summer 2007, when neighborhood small businesses fail, when Fashion Week gets cancelled, when trendy restaurants are empty on a Friday night, etc. When all of this happens--and it will, mark my words--the teflon will wear off. Ronald Reagan won a second term by asking the American people "Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?" If Obama can't answer that question affirmatively, he will be widely recognized as a failure.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]He'll just say "It was GWB's fault" and make a good speech (he's good at those, but not so great at Q and A) and they'll vote for him again. Even if they're wearing barrels and living under the 59th St Bridge.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Or he'll depend on that $5 billion gift to ACORN in the porkululs package to deliver a second term.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
NP: People, it is February! Obama just got into office! Why would he be expected to solve all the problems in just a few short weeks, esp when it took Bush 8 years to run the country into the ground?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Clinton and Carter gave him a lot of help in that regard.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Carter? That's a stretch. How about JFK or FDR, since we're looting the past for Democrats to blame?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]LOL. Of course, there are those who are saying that FDR prolonged the depression with his policies. I think it's ridiculous how people totally buy into the party politics. While deregulation and the banking tools used to create this crisis were on Clinton's watch, Bush sure as hell took the reins and rode that horse off the cliff. There's blame enough all around and I don't see how Obama's policies thus far are so much worse than what Bush tried to do with TARP 1.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
He is expected to make decisions that will have a positive effect on citizens. Releasing terrorists, funding foreign abortions and now forcing a social welfare package, that is in no way a stimulus, on this country. And this is just for starters, what the hell is next? Putting our private medical records in government database, oh wait... that is included in our "stimulus" package. Where the hell is the ACLU, if Bush even attempted to do this there would have been criticism galore. But where is the civil liberties union, are they only working for foreign born terrorists?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]You're right. He can do no wrong in the eyes of so many.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]You mean the frisbee golf course, butterfly garden, and dog park aren't going to stimulate anything?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I think that dog park is an excellent use of public funds. Dogs need a place to shit and run off-leash, and why shouldn't our dwindling tax funds pay for such places?!!
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
He's not releasing terrorists.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 04:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
np: Agree. Obama just started. But people expect miracles. There are no miracles, just hard work then results.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]The result here will be out of control inflation.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
CAUSED by REPUBLICAN policies from the past eight years. LOSER.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Mortgage deregulation was Clinton's baby, actually.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]gotta agree. this is indisputable.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]While the Bush Administration and Republican dominated congress sat on their hands for eight years?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
plenty of blame to go around, both republican and democrats. bush's "ownership society" was a failure--let's face it, some people should be renters. but let's also face the fact that democratic outreach to poor/minority for various "affordable housing" initiatives, was also a major problem. dems through FHA, and GSEs like fannie/freddie, pushed home ownership for minority purchases, which was the direct but-for causation of the subprime lending crisis.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]::applause::
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ditto
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Most of those people who took those loans don't know what the heck they are doing except that someone told them to take the money and built ponzi schemes with homes.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Perhaps this is true. Still, there has to be some personal accountability! I mean, if you couldn't afford a trailer home a few years back, your income hasn't materially changed and all of the sudden you can buy one of those McMansions like you see on Super Nanny, you KNOW there's something up.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]actually, most of the people who took those loans were irresponsible. they wanted something they couldn't afford and leaped at the opportunity to get it. i know many very frugal families with low incomes who never bought because they KNEW it wasn't fiscally responsible to do so in their positions.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]While I agree that they were irresponsible, I don't buy that everyone taking out subprime loans were buying McMansions. Housing prices rose considerably in the last ten years and many people were priced out of middle class neighborhoods. Not excusing their decisions, but people do need a place to live.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:59 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]They need a place to live that's within their income bracket, even if they wish that income bracket were higher.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 04:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ITA
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 04:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
okay, not to sound all touchy-feely here but trying to make home ownership a reality for people who've worked hard and have contributed to society is not such a bad thing (though methods were faulty.) And let's face it, up until last year the banks were getting rich from the securities based on subprime lending and to say that they were innocent victims of that is not to acknowledge their role in the debacle. They encouraged it. The more loans, the more securities, the more money. Never mind that the risk management models were wrong or that they didn't want to see that there is something inherently suspicious in making money from bad debt. The people trading the CDS's CDO's etc. were supposed to be the experts who were driven by their own greed.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]blah blah blah, typical liberal response. blame the banks for everything; blame the irresponsible people for nothing. not saying AT ALL that banks aren't to blame, they definitely are; but i'd say it's 50/50 on the homeowners too
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]but the government bears no culpability in forcing them to lend?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
omg! he has only been in office since January 20! Bush the baboon in company got us into this mess and idiots like you think Obama can get it out it three weeks. Write a letter to Bush, ask him what to do to unfix what he has broken!
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]The problem started long before Bush was elected.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 04:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]It started when Bush senior was in office...there was a movement afloat, to encourage homeownership in poverty areas and/or areas less economically viable. believed that it would inspire fiscal responsibility....John McCain spoke at a Young Republican's meeting of some kind, where he was a proponent of this idea.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 04:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
unfix?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 04:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]fix!
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 04:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
yes, and our new decider has decided to reverse himself on offshore drilling (again) and job outsourcing
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 04:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Are you seriously that dense? Anyone taking oath on January 20 (dem or rep) was going to stand in front on a massive truck on its way to a major collision. The economy was already in a major tailspin.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: No one's saying he has to be able to snap his fingers and fix everything. I'm just annoyed at his methods - trying to sneak in pork barrel projects into an already HUMONGOUS bailout, making ridiculous claims ("Reducing government spending means we won't have any teachers or police officers!" "It's all the banks' fault that innocent people were forced to buy a house and then abandon it!"), his controversial appointment of Geithner because he claimed no one else could do it (yeah, that worked out well. anybody understand what that dude was SAYING in today's news conference?), and just... I don't know. I voted for Obama, I wanted to punish the Republicans, and now I'm almost sorry I did
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
This is a ridiculous comment. this had nothing to do with obama. this was a long time coming (thanks in part to W, thanks buddy). obama just gets to come in and clean up this horrible mess. not worth all the commentary here.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 10:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]you're an idiot
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 04:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]DUDE, he inherited this mess !!! did you think he could really fix it in 2 weeks? Please.
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 04:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]have you been sleeping? We have been heading into depression BECAUSE of the failed policies of ignorant, arrogant, smirking Bush! In case you have forgotten Obama was inaugurated in Janury!
[ Reply | Options ]02.11.09, 04:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]The problem is Obama has NO idea how to fix the problem. Throwing money at social problems will not fix the economy. He should have gone at the major problem which is that the housing market faces foreclosures at ALARMING rate every day. We don't need our medical records digitalized, the banking system needs support on their portfolios which contain debts that are never going to be collected. We are going into a depression because this man is pushing through his social policies and billing it as a "stimulus" package.
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 03:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Before I started reading Urban Baby I had no idea how many morons surrounded me.
[ Reply | Options ]02.15.09, 05:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] My Persian friends always have such beautiful long hair. What is the secret? How do ... 8 replies
- Same thing. Both terms are correct. One is less political than the other....
Talk : : February 10, 2009
My Persian friends always have such beautiful long hair. What is the secret? How do you get it styled/cut like that?
8 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.10.09, 12:30 PM [ Flag ]do you mean cats?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 12:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]people. are you trying to make a specific point?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 12:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]just that persians and long shiny hair in the same sentence makes me think of cats
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 12:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]funny. okay.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 12:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Genetics to have shiny thick long hair
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 12:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]They are not Persian, they are Irani.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 12:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Same thing. Both terms are correct. One is less political than the other.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 12:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]don't you mean "Iranian"?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 12:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] What do you pay $35K for in a private school? 1) class size; 2) peer group; 3) curric... 27 replies
- with the OR below about the importance of stability, in a general sense. We have BTDT with public school, and I see this as public's biggest drawback. The DOE is constantly reinventing the wheel, and too many decisions get made for political reasons. I burned out from the constant struggle of fighting to preserve what was good about dc's school and to fix all the things that were broken....
Talk : : February 10, 2009
What do you pay $35K for in a private school? 1) class size; 2) peer group; 3) curriculum; 4)college placement; 5) facilities; 6)teachers? I pay for peer group, curriculum and college placement
27 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.10.09, 05:08 AM [ Flag ]If you're paying for better college placement, you're making a mistake.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 05:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP: Better college placement is tied to better curriculum and better peer group. Yes, that's what I'm paying for
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 05:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]How is, say, CGPS's curriculum and peer group better than, say, Stuyvesant's?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 08:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Way way worse actually - Stuy's peer group is tt, CGPS is 3rd tier
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 09:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
i don't see how you can distill it down to one thing - it is the way all these things work together that result in a better product overall
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 05:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]All of the above except college placement.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 05:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]All of the above plus an administration that will at least pretend to listen to my concerns, teachers that really want to be there (I know this is true of some public teachers, but there are also a fair number thinking only of security and retirement.) and PE more than once a week.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 05:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I pay for not having my child in our local PS which is terrible (teachers yelling, rude children, low level of academics). Totally worth it. I don't care if dc goes to a Big 10 or Ivy.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 05:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]ITA
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 05:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]didn't get in to G&T?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 06:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Not worth the risk...Didn't even apply (take ERBs) as the decision date is after privates, so if you don't get a private and you don't get G&T, you are stuck in local PS. Plus G&T was a hike from our apartment, so not worth it (private is around the corner).
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 06:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]OH- and we really think the whole testing thing ruins even G&T education...Wait until after the budget cuts this next year and we'll see who is truly happy in ANY public.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 06:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]NP: You sound like an idiot.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 08:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
curriculum-(not a fan of the testing and nclb), class size (at my zoned school classes were up to 34 with one teacher), teachers (class had a head teacher with years of exp and an asst who is usually getting their masters), peer group (kids with learning and emotional disabilities are counseled out early), college placement is not so high on my list -don't care about hyp-want a decent liberal arts college for dc for undergrad.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 06:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]ITA. And I would add that facilities aren't particularly important to me, either, as long as the environment is safe and clean. Curriculum is the top priority in my book, then the teachers, then the peer group. I also agree with the OR below about the importance of stability, in a general sense. We have BTDT with public school, and I see this as public's biggest drawback. The DOE is constantly reinventing the wheel, and too many decisions get made for political reasons. I burned out from the constant struggle of fighting to preserve what was good about dc's school and to fix all the things that were broken.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 06:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]when did you switch? before middle school? would you mind saying which school you transfered dc to, and are you happy with it?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]It was before middle school. I can't name the school without outing myself. We're very happy so far.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
np: For us, it's primarily about curriculum.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 06:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm willing to pay for a small, pleasant, nurturing, stable environment for my child where each child is known as an individual and given time and attention by his/her teachers. I really want school to be an "island of calm" amidst the craziness of living in NYC with a young family, the constant of a close-knit group of faculty, teachers, families and peers all committed to a great education.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 06:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]my thoughts, exactly. thank you for putting it so well.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]thanks! this has nothing to do with college admissions for me. i am basically thinking about k-8 and trying to find the best place for my dc to learn and to learn to love learning! gl to you! man i hope we get accepted somewhere!
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]GL to you, too. Which schools did you like the best? e liked ECFS, CGPS, Trevor, Town. Cathedral was nice, too. We weren't really attracted to the so-called "TT" schools.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
np - I'll add to the chorus of "well put" - that is exactly how I feel but I have never explained it that well.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 10:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^Btw, DC is at a "TT" and what you described is precisely what I like about it. It's safe and warm and happy, and DC's teacher is just absolutely wonderful and knows all of the children really well. So it's not just the progressive, small schools that offer this.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 10:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
70% class size; 20% curriculum; 10% facilities.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I switched from public (considered to be a good one) to a private (also well regarded) for teachers (much better than at our old public); curriculum (ditto); and class size (between 13 and 25 kids per class instead of 32). I also switched for a better "culture" - warmer, more playful, more nurturing vs. inflexible, repressive, judgemental.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]That is well put. Also switched for those reasons.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 01:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Okay, I was at a party last night and the latest anti-Jewish remark is that Jews are ... 17 replies
- There is a bit of a difference. If someone didn't agree with India's policies/politics/ in Kashmir say, and you called them anti-Hindu, that would be a problem. A lot of posters consider anti-Israel rhetoric (Esp in the light of recent events) anti-semitic. It isn't about loving two countries, its about not allowing...
Talk : : February 09, 2009
Okay, I was at a party last night and the latest anti-Jewish remark is that Jews are un-American because they love Israel. As an Indian-American immigrant who loved her childhood in India and her adulthood in the US, I couldn't stand it and told them off (maybe a bit too harshly). What's wrong with being loyal to two countries at once, especially if they see eye-to-eye on most political and economic issues? I want to foster Indo-American relations as much as possible too, just as much as Jews would like to foster Israel-American relations! Hate how some people are so narrow-minded. Okay, rant over.
17 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.09.09, 07:25 PM [ Flag ]guess people have been jew-bashing all over the place. take a look at he lovely first post on the sidebar
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Makes sense. Unfortunately i'm a 2nd-gen cuban so... not so possible right now!
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]what's your favorite israeli dish?
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]op - Dunno, I like hummus I guess (is that Israeli?) why do you ask?
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]that's what i thought
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 08:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]op - Whatever, sorry if I offended you with my lack of knowledge about Israeli cuisine, which I didn't realize was a prerequisite to thinking about Israel-American relations. I just wanted to get my point across and I have. Goodbye.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 08:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
There is a bit of a difference. If someone didn't agree with India's policies/politics/ in Kashmir say, and you called them anti-Hindu, that would be a problem. A lot of posters consider anti-Israel rhetoric (Esp in the light of recent events) anti-semitic. It isn't about loving two countries, its about not allowing others to have a different opinion about said other country.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: Yes, but if someone kept talking about all the atrocities the Indian government had committed in Kashmir and upon the Muslim population in India, and strongly condemned the Indian government for all the atrocities, you might feel obligated to point out the context in which this occurred, and that there is more to the Kashmir conflict that an Indian government that does nothing but commit atrocities on a helpless people. But if you dared to point that out, you would be accused of not allowing the other person to "have a different opinion". So you must not say a word if you hear any one-sided criticism of India.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 06:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Sometimes the Israel rhetoric prompts American policies to do things that put the US in a difficult diplomatic footing. Loving Israel is one thing, supporting Israeli policies that hurt America in the long run is un-American. You wouldn't know this because India has never in its history shared the same relationship with the US as Israel does/has... not even close.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]op - really? have you not heard of the cold war?
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Yes, and? As I recollect, India had strong ties with the USSR then. The US supplied arms to Pakistan.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]and those relations made for some fairly uncomfortable diplomacy between the two countries, especially because of the us's "my friend or my enemy" policy
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]or from above: agree. That's why I said OP was drawing a wrong parallel between Israel and India and why people react the way they do to Israel and not other countries.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]lol, I am the op who posted that! anyway, i agree that the us has different relationships with both countries. i'm just annoyed by people who think it's "anti-american" to also be loyal to another country (in my case, my country of birth, in others' case, the country they identify with their religion)
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np- I think you misunderstood those "people" at the party. They probably did not simply think it was "anti-american' to be loyal to another country. It was probably more complicated than that--especially since they were talking about the Jews and Israel. You sound very naive.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: Why do you think OP is being naive? Considering she was at the party and you weren't, you assume that everyone who criticizes Israel is making some complex argument in which both the Palestinian and Israeli history is considered. For example -- J Street -- and organization of American Jews doing great work. But there are many critics who simply don't like Israel, so they do say things like being pro-Israel is anti-American. The fact that you insist the OP must be wrong is very telling about your own opinions.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I think it is a mistake to generalize Jewish to Zionist and to believe all Zionists agree. There is an old maxim, "If you want three opinions, ask two Jews."
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] If #1 is SO, I'm pulling #2 out of the preschool. So far doa doesn't seem to be doing... 64 replies
- you know, the schools reaaaally don't care about your political beliefs or your thoughts on taxation. they just care if they sense you're going to be asking for special treatment and attention all the time. which is sort of what you sound like you'd do based on this nasty mini-rant, frankly...
Talk : : February 09, 2009
If #1 is SO, I'm pulling #2 out of the preschool. So far doa doesn't seem to be doing anything for us. I'm not happy.
64 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.09.09, 06:38 PM [ Flag ]Wow. That is really going to make quite an impression on the psd.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]And put him where? You know your psd can't pull miracles.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I don't need a miracle; great kid, good ERB, decent parents. She keeps saying she hasn't heard anything. Why isn't she picking up the phone?
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]You are acting like pita. leave her alone. why assume she's not doing what she needs to do? fwiw, I heard this year, schools are not giving out as much feedback.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Hundreds of kids with great ERB, great kids. Though the parents are not as anxious as you.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Who wouldn't say all that stuff about their own dc and family? How we see things and how they are can be two different things.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm not in denial. I know the erb score, I know the school report, I would never voice this in real life but if these preschools can't get a perfectly fine kid into an ongoing, they need to be exposed.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]LOL, last year, 700 kids got SO. This year won't be as bad but still, there will be SO kids. SO kids are not all dumb, troubled kids.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]if a decent preschool with a fairly good reputation can't get a 98 erb kid into an ongoing, I think there is a problem with that school.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
You "know the school report"? How's that? It's supposed to be confidential. My dc's been in ongoing for a few years, and I never saw or heard anything about preschool report.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]to be fair I haven't seen it but been told by the teachers that it's great.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
ITA. So many entitled parents. The biggest whiners are always the ones who apply only to tts and the most competitive second tiers, then get all pissy when psd can't get their low 90s erb kid into a school on their list.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]The erb is not low at all.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]what is it?
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]max score
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]op: that wasn't me. the score is 98.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ha ha. you are clearly fake or stupid
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
honestly, the PSD (which is who I assume you mean) can only help push your child over the edge into the accept camp, can't generate interest if there is none
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Exactly
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]If she can't help a well qualified candidate, who can she help? Might as well send dc to the local daycare.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]If you sent your DC to preschool for exmissions, you are a fool. Chose a preschool based on its program and your needs.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]we didn't pick a school just for exmissions, but let's face it if exmissions wasn't a factor I could have gone with a much cheaper option
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]then you should have if exmission was the only deciding factor.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]so why didn't you? Oh, you are a fool who puts so much importance into exmissions. Kind of stupid, no?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
What was your dc's erb? That's really the thing that makes one kid more "qualified" over others?
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]98
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]score is 99x3, not 98
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I don't know what you're trying to do. Are you some sort of crazy poster. I'm op, as much as I would have liked a 99, the score is 98.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ITD
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
np: ITD. THe ERB is a screen, but if the child "fails" on the playdate, that is the nail in the coffin.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Well, a kid with a low erb is WAY more likely to be dinged that one with a high erb.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]yes, I said it is a screen. But just because your DC has a 98 or even a 99 doesn't mean much if the playdate is weak
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]That's not always true. If the playdate was weak, and the dc has an excellent report and high 90s erb, he still has a good shot (that's one of the reasons schools often do preschool visits).
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I guess some people think pre-k is a brokerage firm. That's just lame.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:07 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
If you go to a fancy preschool and aren't connected, it may work against you. You might as well send dc to a local daycare. If your dc is truly outstanding, a fancy preschool may only hurt, but your dc will stand out as an unusual applicant from a daycare.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm afraid to prove you right
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ITA. If you're not connected, you don't want a tt preschool if you want a tt ongoing. When we applied out, there wasn't a single legacy and only one sib applying to our fc tt. Dc got in. Don't know that that would have happened if dc had gone to Episcopal or 92Y.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I'm wondering if your entitled attitude might have something to do with your PSDs lack of interest in promoting your child ... and with the shut out you seem to see coming. Ongoings RUN from PIA, whiny, entitled parents.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I would never say this stuff in real life, but it is what I think.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Yep. If they get a whiff of one, that's it: Ding. Unless they're literally billionaires, of course. Otherwise being a PITA is a fatal flaw.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Are you kidding? Judging from the posters on this board who send their kids to private on-goings, they are filled with whiny entitled parents (who of course, think someone making "only" $400,000/year is struggling). But you have to know what's "socially acceptable" to complain about (people trying to keep the rich down, income taxes) and what isn't (parents must be invisible to school).
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]you know, the schools reaaaally don't care about your political beliefs or your thoughts on taxation. they just care if they sense you're going to be asking for special treatment and attention all the time. which is sort of what you sound like you'd do based on this nasty mini-rant, frankly ...
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Exactly
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Thanks for proving my point (and I'm the OR above, NOT the OP). My kids' tt school is full of nasty, whiny, entitled parents who sound just like you and the private school posters on this board. The OP simply feels entitled to her 98 erb kid getting a spot in a private school. You attack her for such chutzpah!! She's simply NOT the kind of parent you want to associate with and clearly the private schools don't want her kid. Because of course, all the parents of kids in private schools are the most open-minded, compassionate, understanding and lovely people. Just like you, who calls the OP "whiny, entitled and nasty". Nice -- I'm sure you are absolutely the typical parent at the school.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
op: I can't believe I'm being attacked? You don't think the PSDs who have this holier than thou attitude when it comes to admissions, are at no fault? If they're so good, they'd damn better guarantee admissions to an ongoing.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]is English your first language? if not, forgive my question. if so, i'm thinking i see another problem ...
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]3 glasses of wine usually has that effect on me
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]DITTO
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Beginnings?
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ask me next week and I'll tell you
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]OMG, you too? They are doing crap this year!
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Isn't this the first year the school has to deal with placing the larger number of kids? From what I remember (I'm a mom in the neighborhood with older kids), Beginnings expanded almost double 2 or 3 years ago, so this is probably the first fully expanded class. I remember people worrying at the time that the school would deteriorate because of the expansion (particularly regarding exmissions) ... looks like it's happening.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Have you guys had any feedback at all? Seems like it's been so quiet. -np
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
np are you are pita irl? probably psd knows that?
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Wow. Pre-schools are supposed to guarantee admissions to an ongoing. That's interesting news.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 07:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
You can't blame the PSD. There are record numbers of kids applying. Unless you are connected by sib or leg it is going to be tough. I agree with the poster that said the playdate will sink the child. It is very difficult for a 4 year old to continue to perform on multiple playdates. I am afraid to say but I think it is going to be a blood bath due to sheer numbers. Lack of feedback generally is not a good sign. It indicates that the DOAs already have the classes together. Prepare for impact.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Beginnnings director? How are you?
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]no, SO mom from last year whose kid was just like yours.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 08:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Where are you now?
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 08:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
It's more than that. The way they treat the parents is unbelievable.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Yes, It is really hard to place a child with a 98 erb. Good thing it is a loving Montessori school.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm not sure what you are saying
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm saying they can't place anone else
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 08:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]who can't place anyone else?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 09:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Looking for a college-educated, gay, 30-to-40-something manny. Willing to pay top do... 59 replies
- Fine. Then why don't I make some politically incorrect dumb blonde jokes...
Talk : : February 09, 2009
Looking for a college-educated, gay, 30-to-40-something manny. Willing to pay top dollar. Any recommendations?
59 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.09.09, 06:36 PM [ Flag ]We have one of these and we're not letting him go.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Define "top dollar"
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP. Up to $40/hour.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
My DH is unemployed and great with kids. He can affect a lisp and wear rainbow sequins if you really need someone appearing gay.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Gay dad here. Please go away you offensive cunt.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Get a sense of humor, Gay.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Fine. Then why don't I make some politically incorrect dumb blonde jokes ... or make a reference to fried chicken-eating black people? After all, we're all supposed to have a sense of humor here, right?
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Lighten the fuck up, jackass. You sound like a militant bastard - it's Urban Baby for God's sake.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np. Damn. She IS a cunt!
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Please.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
NP: really, the c word?
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Yes. REALLY.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I just love classy fags.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
you really need therapy my friend - you called her a cunt and had the nerve to be offended by lisp and sequins. you have a real anger problem - a clearly a chip on your shoulder about your sexuality.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: i agree. you could have made your point in a much better way, i.e., without alienating those who would have supported you.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
aren't rainbows and sequins what they're wearing at the gay pride parade (if they're bothering to wear anything at all)?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 06:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Why are you looking for a gay sitter? Is that legal?
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np. I think it's illegal for those gays to do anything involving children!
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]That's not what I meant, I don't think one can ask about sexual orientation. Why is it so friggin snarky on here tonight.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I think you can make your decision on any basis when you're talking about household help.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
wow, women get so threatened when it comes to a man taking care of children!
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 06:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I would think so. I can't imagine the responses if someone posted that they were looking for strictly a white, WASPy nanny. Feathers would be flying!
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
why gay? ewww
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Nice. Another homophobe. Are you all on the UES, or are you infesting parts of Downtown, as well?
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Gay Uncle here. Yeah, like a bad virus they're all over Chelsea.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Homophobes are all over Chelsea?
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Yes! Yuck!
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 06:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
np: Why the hell is "Gay Uncle" cruising UB? Go get some kids of your own, otherwise it's just... weird
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]nnp: he's here ALL the time. trolls ub with his buddies before they go out on the town.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]HEY! That's not me! I know of whom you speak, and she is ONE MEAN QUEEN!
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
i think someone on the board is playing your buttons like a grand piano...and you are responding..chill
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
this is a great thread!
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm gayed out already. Gay boss, gay tv, gay neighborhood, gay gay gay. My cousin is gay. Shit, my cat is probably gay. Enough already, keep it at home.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm straighted out already. Straight boss, straight TV, straight neighborhood, straight straight straight. My cousins are all straight, and my CAT is even straight (caught him trying to hump his sister). ENOUGH ALREADY! Keep it at home.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]STFU.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Ugh, here we go...
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Except for the fact that straight=biologically normal, and gay=biologically abnormal. Sorry, but "breeders" are essential for the human race to survive. You, my dear... are expendable.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Thanks for clearing that up, Eva Braun. Why don't you go have some cake now in Hell with your DH?
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]... and which religion's Hell would that be? There's a reason all of them condemn homosexuality.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 08:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Why a manny?
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ok for manny, ok for gay, but why 30-40 yr old? 30+ yr old mannies are losers who couldn't get a real job, please don't say that its a double standard, why would any man want to raise other people's kids when he should be having his own, unless he's a pervert or the biggest loser on earth. i've met tons of these, mostly on playdates where i thought 30+ yr old manny was the dad, and let me tell you they are sketchy as hell and have nothing interesting to say. sign, manny in his 20s who will stop mannying very soon and get a life.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Well, good for you manny! I hope you find that life of yours. I found mine in my 20s, too! But guess what? After getting royally FUCKED by the economy and the IB bastards married to the wenches on this board, MY life evaporated before my eyes and now I'm struggling to make ends meet. Signed, 30-something manny.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]that sucks for you, but really i agreed, get a life. 20 yr manny has right idea, why would any man that old do this full-time is beyond me.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Um ... to pay the bills? Have you seen the economy lately? HELLO??
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
you tell them sister!
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I love how the gays on this board throw around "sister" and "queen" and then get mortally offended if a straight person even mentions "lisp" or "sequins"
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Overheard my gay boss say he wore his fat girl pants over the weekend and dove into a pint of ice cream...I was ill.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Not exactly the kind of info a boss should share with a worker.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Right? Tolerance is alive and well, evidently.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I don't need to hear about his Fat Girl Pants, does he want to hear my personal shit? Tolerance IS alive and well, but gay or straight I don't give a SHIT what my boss does over the weekend and I don't want to hear about it.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Sorry you misunderstood - I was replying to the "sister" and "queen" post. I'm on your side with your boss. Ick.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 06:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Kind of like how black men get all offended when you call them "niggah", but it's ok for them to call each other that.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]That's not the same. As someone who isn't AA, I find it offensive that you posted that. Go ahead, go to Harlem and lay that one on them in person. You won't know what hit you.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 07:59 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Oh. So it's only offensive because it involves blacks, but insulting gays is somehow NOT offensive?
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 08:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]It's all offensive you dumb ass. But you don't need to be cocky and throw offensive words around to somehow justify your preference. You're gay, great. We get it. But don't throw the N word around.
[ Reply | Options ]02.09.09, 08:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]And don't YOU throw the "F" or "Q" words around.
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 03:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
i would never consider this, jesus, are you nuts? this is the child molester special!
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 06:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Maybe they want someone gay because they have daughters?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 06:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Can I ask what part of the city you are in and what hours generally you are looking for as well as the number and age of your chidren?
[ Reply | Options ]02.10.09, 06:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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