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Team Ninja: Dead or Alive fans demand bigger breasts

Jim Sterling, Reviews Editor
11:00 AM on 09.27.2012
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Team Ninja's Yohei Shimbori has been justifying his studio's love of massive breasts with inhuman wobble physics, claiming that while international distributors want the breasts toned down, fans are demanding even bigger boobs. 

"We were getting feedback from the overseas offices to tone down the sexuality -- to tone down the sexiness of the game, and of the characters," he revealed to Gamasutra"We actually got a lot of feedback from people who were playing it, saying, 'We want bigger breasts. Make the characters more like that.' That was kind of surprising.

"There's definitely still room for having sexualized aspects. If you have a solid fighting game system there, there's nothing wrong with having beautiful characters as a layer on top of that -- that's another layer of entertainment that there's a need for. If there wasn't a need for it, people wouldn't have responded to the alpha demo like they did, and send us feedback."

Sexy characters are fine. What disturbs me is that for Team Ninja, sexy automatically (and exclusively) equals massive, unrealistically large breasts that move like caravans in a hurricane. That Shimbori uses "bigger breasts" and "beautiful" interchangeably, like they're always the same thing, just speaks volumes about how infantile Team Ninja is about this shit. 

Ultimately, I don't find the Dead or Alive characters very sexy at all. They look like children (and some of them have been), with huge balloons made of skin stapled to their chests. They look like creepy sex dolls brought to life through some arcane means, existing only to mildly amuse the very worst of humanity with their physics-defying glands and high-pitched whimpering. 

If you get off on that, more power to you ... but eww.





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I couldn't have put it better Jim. Though I am glad that they focused on gameplay in this one.
I think you are taking this way to seriously...
I think every DOA girls should just be replaced with Christina Hendricks. Her physics are real at least.
Who cares.
Meh, most men will start feeling attracted to smaller boobs as soon as women start feeling attracted to beggars. Oh and before someone pulls the "it forces women the way of implants and surgery to feel accepted" card i'll ask a simple question "Accepted by whom? what kind of men prefers boobs over everything else?", there's more to women than T&A; and it's ironic that men seem to get that more than women.
meh... wouldn't be so bad if they had 14 year old boys with muscled chests and massive 36" bouncing wieners. I guess that would be "beautiful" to them too.
/sarcasm
What kind of gaylord do you have to be to not like big tits? 3:<
I'm a huge DOA fan, and I like boobs!

...but I'm 33 (and I lost my virginity that one time I got laid in the 90s) so I just want the game to be good.

The 14 year old me wish they were bigger though! ...and he's got the biggest crush on Jennie Garth.
I want Shimbori to cite his sources, to me it sounds like bullshit.
Societies perception of beauty usually does mean big boobs, you could probably sell a game off of big boobs being the main feature.
DFC is better!
"just speaks volumes about how infantile Team Ninja is about this shit."

That's... surprising. I never figured Jim for the moralizing type.
Yes, it's entirely team ninjas infantile obsession and not cultural at all. Just disregard all that anime boys and girls, the body pillow w/ character prints, the tit mousepads, etc. yep all team ninjas fault.

Jimmy, stop listening to your hyper feminist wife, think about the issue a bit before writing this drivel.

It's part of the culture, stupid as it is to people outside of it, and this game in particular has a long history with boobs and jiggle physic, stupid as it is. Don't lay the blame at the feet of a team. And for the love of god (that'll set the misses off) stop trying to sensationalize trivial shit.
fapfapfapfapfapfap
so many beautiful women have small breasts
needless sexualisation, yeah.

But OMFG people need to get the hell over body image grow some self esteem and accept who they are instead of freaking out every time some company pulse some dumb crap like this.

Hell if you don't like what they are doing don't buy the game. Personally always been a SoulCalibur person myself anyhow.
Do the fans also demand ass-shallow gameplay and barebone features?
Oh no, they got boobs in my video games. What ever shall I do?
@bobthe cat
I think the word "mean" should be replaced with "include" in your statement...

@mrfloppy
What's funny is it is hardly a Japan, or any other country only thing. Or a single group of people at all... no one is innocent of this kind of thing(except me...sure)

Despite this, while huge hulabaloo over it is annoying I can still see why many people wouldn't want this kind of thing popping up in "normal" Video games. There is a place for everything, right
Then AGAIN... if you don't like it, ignore it.

And if you ignore it, why not post about how the game has already seen 2 patches and character set adjustments? You know, stuff about the part of the game that you claim is important?
^__^;;
jim you don't like boosoms???

i think an option for big breasts would be be nice ^^

plus DOA girls are really pretty and sexy!!!

maybe jim doesn't like asians?? omg you sooo racist jim!!!!!
"What disturbs me is that for Team Ninja, sexy automatically (and exclusively) equals massive, unrealistically large breasts that move like caravans in a hurricane"

Stop it, you're turning me on.
Weird. I actually think the new MMA girl is the hottest yet.
wouldn't be so bad if they had 14 year old boys with muscled chests and massive 36" bouncing wieners.

GOTY
Big tits? Fuck that shit. Give me a petite girl thag would break when i have sex with her...

Wait im part of the problem arent i?
I don't doubt for a moment that he is relating true feedback. Christ, have you seen the unwashed?
Taking it way too seriously indeed. Have you PLAYED DoA5? Nothing in there apart from the photo mode is much worse than what we have in the genre already, honestly.

Breasts have been bouncing irregularly since the first. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D02U67MIYiY

The newest wave of character models remind me of the newer final fantasy characters!
The characters in these games are just grotesque. It's one thing to appreciate large boobs, but accepting the alternate-reality jiggle physics and body proportions of DOA games is beyond me. It's gross.
So, hyper violence in videogames is all right, but big boobs aren't...ok!
Bigger boobs are not better, if anything they should have been a bit smaller to make it all sexier. But hey that is me, I know a lot of people don't think that way.
CAUSE WE'RE THE BOOB TROOP
AND WE'LL ALWAYS STICK TOGETHER
YEAH WE'RE THE BOOB TROOP
BREAST OF FRIENDS FOREVEEEEEER

Sad I forgot to make one of these when the review came out. I really should start writing down potential boob jokes to be used for future DoA articles. Gotta be prepared!
hmmm like Bioware but with breasts not story i think im starting to understand how companies respond to fans with enormous gameplay
The people who COMPLAIN about the sexualized characters are far more annoying than those who want more T&A.;

Honestly, Team Ninja needs to ignore the "we want DOA to be just like every other fighting game" crowd and play up the game's unique aspects. Toning down the sex and the counter-heavy gameplay just leaves the game feeling like a bland me-too fighter, and we've got plenty of those already.
@SayWord:

You're so damn lovable, you could never be part of any kind of problem.
I'm not THE breast-connoisseur... but anything larger than a handful is too much. There's a point where the immenseness just looks unnatural.

Yohei Shimbori has a fetish for American, over-the-top, elephant boobage.
I'd expect the fans to ask for better breast physics before bigger breasts. And can we get some bigger asses too since we're talking? And a spin-off featuring only Hitomi?
Aah, Hitomi <3
WHITE WOMAN.

BLONDE.

BIG BOOBS.

JAPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN.
I like DOA, because its actual fighting, and not just a projectile spam fest. The boobs are just a plus. They're certainly not needed, but some series' become known for something, to a point where it wouldn't be the same without it. Just like the gore and brutality in God of War. Gore isn't needed to make a good game, but it is needed for a God of War game.
"Sexy characters are fine. What disturbs me is that for Team Ninja, sexy automatically (and exclusively) equals massive, unrealistically large breasts that move like caravans in a hurricane. That Shimbori uses "bigger breasts" and "beautiful" interchangeably, like they're always the same thing, just speaks volumes about how infantile Team Ninja is about this shit."

This whole paragraph is utter bullshit Jim. The Dead or Alive series has always tried to promote having beautiful character models in the games. They made DoA5 with toned down breasts, and more realistic characters. So no, they don't think beautiful means only bigger breasts. They spend a ton of time on the faces, the hair, the costume design, everything. Fans played the alpha demo that came with NG3, and sent their feedback.

Where does any of this say that Team Ninja is infantile and only thinks of big boobs? Exclusively, really? Look at any of the characters in the game, and tell me the only attractive aspect of any of them is just their breasts. I don't even know how you inferred that from what he said. The new Team Ninja specifically tried toning it down in Ninja Gaiden 3 and early builds of DoA 5.
@SirNinjaFace

haha! <3
They actually added a new layer of "sexy" (if you want to call it that) with dirt and sweat. Boobs aren't enough; they need to be drenched in perspiration!

Plus, the girls don't look like blowup dolls anymore. So you have to admit they're at least exploring a little.
"They look like creepy sex dolls brought to life through some arcane means, existing only to mildly amuse the very worst of humanity with their physics-defying glands and high-pitched whimpering."

Would you rather they were androgynous, skinny or pear-shaped frumps in unisex clothing and little to no distinguishing female c characteristics at all? I get the "gigantic breasts are disgusting and men should be ashamed for liking things like that" (not women though, because they have breasts too so it's okay), but trends are turning, and now in order to be a respectable female protagonist companies are resorting to exactly those ideas to appease critics.

SirNinjaFace has exactly the wrong idea about the subject. It's not about "virginity" or virgins, or pathetic losers that can't get women, or fat people incapable of dating (which is the 2nd dumbest assumption in the world). This is the kind of sentiment that holds the medium in it's immaturity rather than allows it to become whatever it's going to have to be. Having a more adult attitude about it couldn't hurt, certainly it'd be more productive in influencing things and making all side feel more welcome into the discussion than reactions akin to "Eeew, e-boobs! Let's laugh at anyone that finds this appealing!" Sex sells, so does violence, but only one is nearly always panned by the broader majority. Instead of shaming people about it why not offer constructive notes or ideas on the matter if it needs discussion at all? I wonder what marriage portions of games like Fable or Skyrim would have been like had people not sidelined the mechanic because decapitation animations are more important, or discussions on the topic less about deriding people, their tastes, or design decisions.
As a fan I can say that no, I do not want bigger breasts. What I want is to be able to say that I like the series without having snide remarks about "boob physics" or whatnot thrown in my face. Well, that and thong DLC for all the male characters. THAT would be beautiful.
Sometimes it's good to ignore the fans on some things.
People who get off on games like DoA or Bayonetta are absolutely pathetic.
My dad told me he was a breast man. That may explain why he left mom after her double mastectomy.
"that's another layer of entertainment that there's a need for."

There is?
Did the people who specifically asked for bigger breasts also send pictures of themselves masturbating while writing the email?

Because they kinda sound like the type of people who would.
"That Shimbori uses "bigger breasts" and "beautiful" interchangeably, like they're always the same thing, just speaks volumes about how infantile Team Ninja is about this shit." Just because one guy out of the whole frickin' team hints his love for big breasts you automatically assume that the entire team is infantile about "this shit"? Get off of your high horse for a second, Jim.
No matter what side of the "sexy fence" we're on, we're all guilty of saying "my woman, my way" one way or another.
Panza: Do all black people like watermellon and basketball?

stop being a douchebag




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