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  • Now that you have been through it, what would you recommend to parents applying to ongoings next year? What worked?

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    02.15.09, 06:45 PM [ Flag ]
    • get off of UB..do yourself that favor and don't listen to ANYTHING on here esp. when it comes to the non TT schools. Go with your gut, apply early enough so you don't feel rushed and just enjoy it. It is what you make it out to be.

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      02.15.09, 06:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • good advice!

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        02.15.09, 06:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • That seems like a very good answer - thank you

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        02.15.09, 06:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Even for the TT. Connected PSD, FC, ILY, no boy/girl spots, basement interview, PSD working only for folks with donor potential-most of the info is bs. Only useful advice was a comment that if an experienced PSD gives you a firm opinion on DC's chances, she is probably correct. Be yourself and it is not your admission,it is your child who has to shine-you can only decrease the chances by overselling, lying or showing signs of being a PITA

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        02.15.09, 06:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Having a great kid who tests well really works

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      02.15.09, 06:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Do you do prep for tests?

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        02.15.09, 06:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • My great kid tested really well but is really shy! If you have a shy kid start theatre classes!

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        02.15.09, 06:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • my very shy kid who i was really worried about ended up doing great on the ERB and playdates, fwiw. took us by complete surprise.

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          02.15.09, 06:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Which reminds me. Try to schedule first playdates/interviews at schools on the bottom of your list.

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            02.15.09, 06:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • ITA with this.

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              02.15.09, 06:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • We went through process a few years ago. Dc's first playdate was at our fc tt. Which is where dc currently attends first grade. Kid either does well or he/she doesn't.

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              02.15.09, 07:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • I am the poster with the shy kid. Some kids have to learn the process to feel comfortable.

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                02.15.09, 07:07 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • do you have a shy kid? i doubt it because if you did you would know this is not true. if you familiarize a shy kid with the process often they will be more outgoing, quicker to warm up the more they get used to it.

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                02.15.09, 07:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • op: my dc is in theatre class now just because he likes it so hopefully it will help - he is outgoing but can be shy at first.

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          02.15.09, 06:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • prep for ERB, write essays over the summer, if you have a clear FC write a FC letter

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      02.15.09, 06:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • That is actually good advice. Also be prepared for interviews and make sure DH seems engaged.

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        02.15.09, 06:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ittta. And apply widely.

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        02.15.09, 06:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • NP. I wouldn't apply to a school you wouldn't send DC to. The "safety" school could very well end up being your only accept and if its not high on your list and you get WLs somewhere else, you have quite a dilemma.

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          02.15.09, 06:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • ITA. Also, if you change your mind about a category of schools (e.g., SS vs coed), withdraw application or at the very least make it clear to your PSD.

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            02.15.09, 06:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • and do as many spring tours as you can (especially Dalton, since Babby does the spring tours). Sign up immediately for the Dalton spring tour.

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        02.15.09, 06:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • If the erb is not great touring Dalton at every available opportunity will not help

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          02.15.09, 07:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Touring in the spring at Dalton may also help you formulate that essay, which is very Dalton-specific. I spent so much time on it in the fall, got it in late, which I think affected our chances -- they probably didn't think we were as interested (DS waitlisted)

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          02.15.09, 07:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • People have to act themselves and not oversell. Need to have the basic intelligence to get the fact that Dalton is probably a bit different and very competitive. If they like your package you get in, no prep can help.

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            02.15.09, 07:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I always think people who feel the need to prep for erb (which you're not supposed to do--per erb office) have dim kids.

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        02.15.09, 06:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • you're dead wrong. prepping can make the difference between a 97 and a high 99. 97 is run of the mill, but a 99 will get a second look. When you're trying for the top 30 spots in 1000 applicants, every little thing counts.

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          02.15.09, 06:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Well, my kid got a "high 99" with NO prepping.

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            02.15.09, 07:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • ITA. This is the one time people are being honest with you. Most of those super high scores come from prepping.

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            02.15.09, 07:07 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • I was very happy with my unprepped 97. To me a 99 is a prepped 97, that's all. With rare exception.

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              02.15.09, 07:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • Eh, maybe, but the 99x3 really caught people's interest.

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                02.15.09, 07:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • Yeah. So did my kid's genuine one. All I did was ensure a good night's sleep and a decent breakfast.

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                  02.15.09, 07:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • What kind of a sorry person are you that you're on a message board trying to justify your dc's test score. OP's question was about giving advice to get ahead in the game, responders are answering to that. You're not adding any value to this conversation.

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                    02.15.09, 07:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • So, you're fine with cheating? ERB explicitly states not to prep. As do decent psds.

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                      02.15.09, 07:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • it's cheating if you buy the test, it's NOT cheating if you teach dc the skills necessary to do well on the test.

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                        02.15.09, 07:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • ITA. For example, one thing I did was to work on my DC's pencil grip and handwriting skills. Still didn't do that well on coding, but much better than he would have done otherwise.

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                          02.15.09, 07:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • what did you do to prep? we're applying next year. -np

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            02.15.09, 07:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • that's silly; a "dim" kid cannot be prepped to high scores. prepping means exposure. i am sure our 97 would have been a 99 DC had DC had a teeny bit of exposure to some of the types of questions/ways of thinking. prepping WORKS, otherwise erb would say go for it, it won't make a dfference. it does make a difference, they know it, but it basically preps up a few points, maybe 5 points, but that can make a big difference. it certainly has nothing to do with being "dim" -- maybe dim parents don't get that they should just do it, and i was one of those dim parents! if harry letterman was prepped to 99s (acoording to boards; and is very smart i am sure), hey, not fair, we should have, to!!!!

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          02.16.09, 08:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Did none of the above and did just fine

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        02.15.09, 06:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • i agree with write a fc if you have one. we did not commit to one school bc we liked 4-5 schools and figured one would pan out since dc had great test scores, and school report. luckily one did pan out, but not one in top 3. i would not take that chance again.

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      02.15.09, 06:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I agree with this. we also did not FC and I think its why we ended up with 3 WLs.

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        02.15.09, 06:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • That was us too (last year). In the end, WL at D and B and did not send FC to school #3 because hoped that D or B would work out. Wish we had sent FC to #3 since we ended up at #6.

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        02.15.09, 06:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • ^^^which leads to my next piece of advice: Listen to your PSD and try to read between the lines. I think my PSD was trying to be nice and not say "you're not getting in." Instead she said things like "D really loves you, but it's a bad year for girls." Should have known that meant WL.

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          02.15.09, 07:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • My advice after having done this twice is to look at a broad variety of schools, start in the spring with touring the schools that offer spring tours, and to do all of the above, except I didn't do any test prep, so I can't comment on that. I would also do the erbs in the spring instead of the fall/winter if you can, because the dc's score is good info to have when deciding where to apply in the fall. I also had a great deal of communication with my psd, which I think was helpful for me this time around, but you may not have that option. Good luck -

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      02.15.09, 07:00 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ITA re spring ERB (if DC has a fall birthday). Otherwise over the summer (if DC has a Jan-March birthday).

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        02.15.09, 07:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • np Yes. Had my March dc test at the erb office in July. Went into the process knowing score and was able to apply tactically.

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          02.15.09, 07:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ITA, but people here want to know more about effectiveness of FC letters, ERB prep and feedback from PSD etc., stuff that gets you ahead of others.

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        02.15.09, 07:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Be as serious about any public school choices you have as you are with your private school choices. Do the SB for Hunter (if you live in Manhattan), take the OLSAT, find out about unzoned schools and/or lottery possibilities. Tour these schools if you can - talk to neighbors and friends about them. Knowing about the public schools can only help if your dc is shut out.

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      02.15.09, 07:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ITA, and it can also help you make a more focused list. After touring our public (41), I decided not to apply to a number of schools that I didn't think were worth $30k more than PS41.

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        02.15.09, 07:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • ITA w/this strategy. After doing so, I narrowed down our list of schools SIGNIFICANTLY, and only applied to the 3-4 that we felt offered a COMPELLING value over FREE. This selectivity, in turn, resonated well w/a lot of the schools. It's a risky strategy, but we got into 3/4 schools we applied to.

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          02.15.09, 08:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ITTA. When you get freaked about the possibility of rejects you will know what it really means (probably that your kid will be okay).

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        02.15.09, 07:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Be on good terms with PSD. Avoid being PITA at ALL COSTS. Be supportive of preschool in whatever way you can. Take spring tours. Write essays early and get applications in. Take ERB early to take some pressure off in the fall.

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      02.15.09, 08:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Assuming your DC is in the ballpark based on ERBs, playdate, your interview, essays, love letters, etc..., then strategic use of first choice CALL (since first choice letters are officially ruled out) and effective PSD who works with you and talks to the schools are the keys.

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      02.15.09, 08:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • And try to get at least one letter of reference from a current family or alum at your top choices - even if they don't ask for letters, do it, or at least have someone call.

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        02.16.09, 09:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • don't get pregnant and have a db due in the fall when you are applying.

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      02.15.09, 08:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Take the ERB as early as possible - now or in summer - it will help you formulate your list and have realistic expectations. GL!

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      02.16.09, 08:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • You can't take it before April. In any event, I would wait until DC is 4-1/2, if possible.

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        02.16.09, 08:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • My kid took it at 4 and 4 months in July, and got a stellar score. And I had score back in early August, so I eliminated schools for which I didn't want to pay 30+k and was able to hit the ground running in Sept.

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          02.16.09, 08:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • That really depends on dc - we had ours take it at the end of November the year we applied as per teacher's advice - did well & ended up at our FC

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        02.16.09, 08:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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