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  • [-]Baby nurse or no baby nurse? It's our first, but i worry that she will be there and the family will be there and it will all be overwhelming....help!

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    05.11.08, 09:39 PM [ Flag ]
    • none. seriously.

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      05.11.08, 09:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I voted no, didn't really want strangers around. I don't really see the point either as I wanted to bf, and so would have to take care of that anyway.

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      05.11.08, 09:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Will family be helping out? or just visiting?

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      05.11.08, 09:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • they will be visiting/helping. but not staying with us. i am affraid MIL will drive me crazy. and i have heard that it is really helpful to get the baby on a schedule. mi sister had one with both kids and loved it, but not sure about it....

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        05.11.08, 09:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • how long was nurse there? an immediate schedule? how long with MIL be there? YOu can always hire one and not keep her if it doesn't work out. Or not hire one and if you decide you need one, get one from an agency pretty quickly.

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          05.11.08, 09:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • my family and his family will come out for about 5 days i would think. i adore my family, his are great but can be a bit much (its their first grandchild) i was thinking of hiring a nurse for 2 weeks and if i do not like it letting her go early. i guess i am just panicking.

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            05.11.08, 09:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • none - get a housekeeper or doula to do housework

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      05.11.08, 09:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • have you had bad experiences or did you opt not to have one from the get-go?

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        05.11.08, 09:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • We are pretty private people and wouldn't feel comfortable with someone in the house all day and night. I like being able to walk around in my pajamas etc.. and for whatever reason I wouldn't be comfortable doing those kinds of things with someone else here.

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          05.11.08, 09:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • they do this for a living and are totally used to blending it (or at least the best ones are)..ours was totally unobtrusive, a little weird the first few days but then it just clicked and worke great.

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            05.11.08, 09:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Love our baby nurse and had plenty of family around --its just nice to have someone do what you want when you want especially at 1 am. I bbfed but nurse burped/diapered/dressed/took care of bellybutton/circum etc. It was great. Also nice to have someone around to let me and dh leave the house for an hour or two etc. totally recommend it and if you dont like it you can always tell her to leave

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      05.11.08, 09:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • if you can get one, I would highly recommend it. It may also be helpful to get one perhaps 2 weeks later, once family moves out a bt, so that you have some help still around

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      05.12.08, 12:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I had a bby nurse with both of my children and my daughter in law just had a baby and also had one. They are WONDERFUL. I only had her for the night time so I could get some sleep. I was so exhausted from getting up every 2 hours. My daugher in law had one around the clock and loved her. If you get the right person they will not be intrusive and just fit right in. They are a great source for information. I understand now they should be certified as a newborn care specialist although when I had my babies they were not. Good luck and it certainly does not make you less of a mommy when you have one. Just more rested and better able to deal.

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      01.28.09, 08:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • No baby nurse. Don't you want to experience the ups and downs of being a parent?

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      01.28.09, 08:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • i think that in the first few days at home, you'd rather have someone who will do laundry, clean up after you and maybe cook for you since you and your family will want to be the ones caring for the baby. otherwise, the baby nurse will be sitting around while the grandparents hold the baby. you COULD just get someone for the nighttime so you can get sleep, although this is more hlepful if you are FF than if you are BF. In some ways, I think help AFTER the visitors are gone and DH is back at work is way more "helpful" than in the first week.

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      01.28.09, 08:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]Any mothers with one child on-- do you have mixed feelings? How do you deal with it when your chidl asks for a sibling? do you worry you will have regrets? Thanks

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    01.26.09, 09:54 AM [ Flag ]
    • 1 perfect ds. No regrets!!!

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      01.26.09, 09:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • has your child ever asked for a brother or sister?

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        01.26.09, 09:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • NP I think kids ask for what they DO NOT have -- all my friends with two have had the older one ask to "send the new one" back -- or "why are they still here?" kinds of things.

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          01.26.09, 09:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Oh, ds has asked for a brother or sister, but when we see a baby crying, he says "no babies in my house." He has three cousins his age, so he has family. I don't worry.

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        01.26.09, 09:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • happy with my one, tried for another but it wasn't in the cards

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      01.26.09, 10:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • one ds, no regrets. ds does not want a sibling, even when we ask him (not that it's up to him). Had mixed feelings for awhile, but now that we made up our minds, being around babies is instant birth control.

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      01.26.09, 10:20 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • We have one. She has never asked for a sibling. She has a lot of friends with no siblings and thinks it is just fine.

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      01.26.09, 10:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • i'm really happy with just one, and dd went through a phase where she asked for a sibling and then the phase passed. i didn't deal with it at all, i just said, "we're really happy with our family as is" occasionally i feel bad because she won't have the same safety net that i have, with a bunch of sibs, but then i realize that not all sibs are close.

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      01.26.09, 11:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • we have one, and we only ever wanted one. DC has asked once or twice (is 6), but we just say our family is just right the way it is, and besides, mom is too old (well, close anyway at 43).

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      01.26.09, 11:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • op-- popping back on. thanks to all who replied.

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        01.26.09, 11:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • i am 43 as well. have a 3 year old and now wondering - but...

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        01.26.09, 11:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • it's so interesting...there's never even been a moment when I've wondered if I wanted another.

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          01.26.09, 11:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • op- did you know from day 1 that you were going to only have one? I always thought that there would be at ime when we could, but some things are not changing--- our finances, the size of our apartment, my level of energy, the degree to which I would be able to count on my dh for help,

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            01.26.09, 11:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • well. i re-married later and tried right away - so at 43.. if it was the same husband 10 years earlier - 3 kids

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              01.26.09, 11:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • op- if... if... if.. I often say this-- then think if lifew were differnt I wuldnt have the good things either

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                01.26.09, 11:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • I--we--knew from day one. dh and I had been together for almost 20 years before we decided to have a dc, and prior to that, we used to talk about having a girl, and just one. I never envisioned myself with a family, and really only started thinking about it in my mid-thirties. In fact, if for some reason we couldn't conceive, we weren't going to go for fertility help either. We think it worked out as planned...we got the girl we wanted and we're happy.

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              01.26.09, 11:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • nope--happy as a clam and so is DS

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      01.26.09, 11:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • would love to have no. 2 but I am too old. May try DE but its a big step. Its really hard when they start lerning about families in School. I don't think you would ever regret having a second child however I think you may regret not trying for one. GL in what ever you decide.

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      01.26.09, 11:20 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • If it's not in your family plan, don't sweat it. I had 2 brothers (not even an only child) and used to ask my mom for sister to play with. It never happened, and I have not regrets. Most only children from what I find, eventually outgrow this stage and if you ask them later, most will say they enjoyed being the only child.

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      01.26.09, 12:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • 1 amazing DC, feel so lucky. Tried this year for another, 2 MC; but I am 42. No trouble conceiving I guess but worried about another MC, as many know they are very hard on you. I do worry about DC and no sibs, and I love children very much. I would say my DC is as happy as other kids both single children and those with siblings. I would have the energy and the $ for more. We'll see.

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      01.26.09, 12:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]Can someone explain why parents and nannies don't interact at parks? I am a mom with light brown skin that gets mistaken to be a nanny and thus most other parents avoid me. I have also noticed these parents treat nannies, esp. those with a non-American accent quite rudely. What gives? Are people really that blatantly racist in this day and age?

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    01.14.09, 06:55 PM [ Flag ]
    • Same reason why a lot of nannies don't like to hang out or talk to moms

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      01.14.09, 07:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP: Which is what? FYI, I have found most nannies to be very warm and friendly when you talk to them, but many parents act if they are so superior...really people, it's a park!

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        01.14.09, 07:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • ITA most nannies are nice- that's (hopefully) why you hire them! BUT. They could feel akward- boss-employee relationship type thing comes to mind

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          01.15.09, 02:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • it's not as much nanny/parent, it's commonality.. i'm friends with a friend's nanny who is just like anyone else's grandma, it's like handing out and drinking tea and talking current events if we have playdates. but i'm not going to hang out and text the rest of the nannies that are college drop outs in our neighborhood (we don't have the race/class/illegals thing here, it's more college kids vs the moms)

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      01.14.09, 07:07 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP: OK, I can understand you want to hang out with people you have things in common with, but I am really bothered by the basics...some parents act if the nannies are invisible. They never say please, excuse me or thank you to the nannies, but are sickeningly sweet with other white parents??

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        01.14.09, 07:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • That's because they feel superior to the nannies. Isn't it obvious? By the way, there's a hierarchy among nannies, too! White nannies at the top, followed by asians, latin americans and blacks.

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          01.14.09, 07:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • This is something that really bothers me in other contexts as well. So many people are polite and civil to everyone they think they have to suck up to or would like to be friends with. Everyone else is treated not very friendly... I'm really trying (and trying to teach my kids) that true good manners mean that you have to be friendly / helpful / polite to everybody.

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          01.14.09, 10:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • When there are not a lot of people at the park, I talk to who ever is there. We speak Spanish to my dd, so often Spanish speaking nannies will talk with us. I tend to be silent and just watch dd when there are a lot more people around. I think there is a social class thing as much as a race thing going on.

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      01.14.09, 07:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Why don't you just go to another park where you'll be more comfortable?

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      01.14.09, 07:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP; WOW!!! Should I drink from the colored fountain too???

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        01.14.09, 07:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Oh stop. I have a very good black friend who has complained about being mistaken for a messenger, doorman or whatever. Like I tell him, you can't change people's perceptions or attitudes and you'll make yourself crazy if you spend too much energy on it.

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          01.14.09, 07:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • OP: I don't spend a lot of energy on it, but it really bothers me that this is what my kid is being exposed to in the most forward thinking city and country with a half black pres. elect...how do you think these people got these perceptions and attitudes?

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            01.14.09, 07:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • It has to do as much (if not more) with class than race. Wealthy, successful types tend to want to be around other wealthy, successful types.

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      01.14.09, 07:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ITA: I usually accompany my dd to the park in less than stylish clothing (yes, What not to Wear would looove my outfits) and am never approached by other parents. But when I am coming from work or wear a nice coat (covering my outfit), other parents speak to me a lot more.

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        01.14.09, 07:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • OP: I dress no different from the other moms....jeans, t-shirt with engagement ring and typical UES type jewelry (cartier, etc)..

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          01.14.09, 07:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP: So people like me, who have brown skin, but happen to be ivy league graduates with more than our fair share of "wealth and success", are not considered equals? Wow, I never realized people are this shallow!

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        01.14.09, 07:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Don't be naive. You know very well that black and brown-skinned folk are viewed differently than everybody else. It takes time to change these long held perceptions.

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          01.14.09, 07:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • OP: Yes, they are treated differently and will continue to be, precisely b/c excuses like "it takes time" absolves people of personal responsibility to at the very minimum be civil.

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            01.14.09, 07:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • sooo...complete strangers who choose not to acknowledge you in a public park are racists? You sound a little entitled to me, with your talk of ivy league degrees.

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              01.14.09, 07:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • OP: I am not talking about acknowledgement, but kindness when you are sharing the same immediate space. BTW, the ivy league comment was in response to someone's comment about people wanting to associate with those in their own class. And, yes, I do feel entitled to basic respect!

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                01.14.09, 07:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • You can't take it personally. No one talks to me either and I'm blond and blue eyed. People are not really social at parks.

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      01.14.09, 07:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • when i was on maternity leave, i was so desperate for mom friends that i spoke to anyone with a kid at a park or playground, nanny or parent. and I'll tell you, not too many of them talked back much at all. i think most people just keep to themselves in general

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      01.14.09, 07:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I dunno about you, but I met a few nice nannies in the last few years as well as moms. However, let's admit, it's hard to gossip with nannies about the dread topics...SCHOOL and lousy husbands. Moms are more willing to dish it up about admissions, etc... and empathize/share about deadbeat dhs.

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      01.14.09, 07:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • OP: Thanks for all the responses. I do think most people in parks want to be left alone, which is fine, but I think there needs to be common courtesy towards any other person you come across, even if you don't want to associate with them b/c of "fill in the blank". Don't think you can be rude b/c it's a stranger. I hope no one treats you or your child like that...

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      01.14.09, 07:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]Ok - I have a mom confession. Please no flames cause I feel bad enough. 1. my 2 yr old is still on the bottle 2x per day, 2, haven't started toilet training yet and 3. I keep forgetting to brush her teeth which now I am worried about. anyone else btdt?

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    01.10.09, 09:02 PM [ Flag ]
    • Yep, I have 4 kids. You are fine. Mine dropped the bottle at 3 or 4 years old (I mean, come on, there's nothing that's damaging about it!). Kept the paci (for sleeping) for a long time (to 4 years old). I toilet trained at 3 years old and it took a couple of days, no problem. Don't worry

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      01.10.09, 09:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • i won't criticise, but please make sure to brush well, esp. before bed. My almost 3 just had his first cavity filled and has an appointment for another. not a pleasant experience. learned my lesson...

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      01.10.09, 10:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Like I told the other lady, don't worry too much about the brushing. These teeth will fall out and they will get their permanent teeth. Cavities and gum disease are caused by certain bacteria. If you or your dh have cavities, you both may be carrying this bacteria. Just make sure you do not share food and exchange saliva. And about the other stuff. I understand, it's really hard to take those steps for the next level. my advice, start the potty training now. It will take at least 6 months and even afterwards there may be accidents. Just be consistent. You may not have success for a while. Kids at this age are considered resistant. Do NOT wait until you child is 3. It gets way worse and they get more resistant the longer you wait. Most child...

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        01.10.09, 10:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I have totally btdt. And I am here to tell you none of those things matter, except maybe the teethbrushing, and even that i'm not so sure. i don't even remember when my kid stopped the bottle, but i do remember that it was considered "late" and my only regret is that i gave it a moment's thought. ditto with toilet training. there will always be people who enjoy living in an authoritative world with rules for everything, even if there is no justification for it beyond that's the way our culture is. it makes them feel comfortable. please enjoy your children and don't spend a moment feeling bad about such meaningless things. really. I PROMISE they won't go to kindergarten in diapers, will learn to sip from a real cup, and their permane...

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      01.11.09, 07:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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