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Fronzel
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 Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:33 am
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| Quote: | | Getting canceled just might be the best thing that could have happened to After War Gundam X... |
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PMDR
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:01 am
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Agree completely. From what I have seen of it, which is not very much and certainly not the whole show, it did figure out what it wanted to do just as described.
It's not unlike life, where someone may not figure out what they want to DO until they've left school and stepped out into the real world of work and family. Perhaps I am seeing parallels that are not there.
But I do feel this show is an under appreciated diamond that just needs some light shined on it to sparkle. It's nice to see that happening.
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AiddonValentine
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:54 am
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That is the thing I found interesting about X is that getting canceled might have helped it because the pacing is methodical but not sluggish. That's a problem I've always found with the franchise is that often it's just wasted the 52 episode format because instead of using it to make a huge, epic storyline full of twists and turns it just leads to a lot of filler that could have been left on the cutting room floor. Of course some stuff that could have been neat like Ennil getting a new Mobile Suit that was more like a Gundam was left out, but we can't have everything.
It's also interesting to watch this series because the creative team said one way to look at it is to replace every instance of the term "Newtype" with "Gundam" in order to get a different look at the franchise in pop culture.
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DmonHiro
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:17 pm
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Agreed. If they had 52 episodes, they would have slowed down the pace to make it more in line with what was being done at the time. And I for one think the ending was great. It tied up all loose ends, there's no possible way for a continuation what with what happened on the Moon.
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Nyren
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:01 pm
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| DmonHiro wrote: | | Agreed. If they had 52 episodes, they would have slowed down the pace to make it more in line with what was being done at the time. And I for one think the ending was great. It tied up all loose ends, there's no possible way for a continuation what with what happened on the Moon. |
Actually there is a sequel novel or manga that picks up... I think 5 years later, I can't remember exactly.
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Lynx Amali
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:21 pm
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| Quote: | Getting canceled just might be the best thing that could have happened to After War Gundam X, because the difference in entertainment quality between its first and second halves is like night and day.
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On the other hand, we lost out on a lot of unique stuff that never made it into the show like actually showing the combined forms of the G-Falcon and Leopard Destroy and Airmaster Burst Gundams which have only appeared twice since (Super Robot Wars Alpha Gaiden and SDGO), not to mention Esperansa II that Ennil was supposed to use had the show gotten its full run.
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DuelGundam2099
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:14 pm
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>bad art and animation
Nope, gotta disagree on this, the art isn't just up to par with the first half, Double X Gundam is present and that thing is top tier win. Then there is the headline description calling this series "less than beloved", to who? That felt kind of insulting, now I'm sad and feel like pancakes. 
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Nyren
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:24 pm
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| DuelGundam2099 wrote: | >bad art and animation
Nope, gotta disagree on this, the art isn't just up to par with the first half, Double X Gundam is present and that thing is top tier win. Then there is the headline description calling this series "less than beloved", to who? That felt kind of insulting, now I'm sad and feel like pancakes.
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Gundam X is one of my personal favorites and the art, to me, was amazing. I couldn't believe it when I read that X didn't do well in Japan. I'm sure that if it had aired here in the US right after Wing, it would have done pretty well.
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Fatt_One
Joined: 08 Jun 2006
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Location: Ohio USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:30 pm
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| DuelGundam2099 wrote: | >bad art and animation
Nope, gotta disagree on this, the art isn't just up to par with the first half, Double X Gundam is present and that thing is top tier win. Then there is the headline description calling this series "less than beloved", to who? That felt kind of insulting, now I'm sad and feel like pancakes.
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It had a reputation for being widely hating among the Gundam fan-base but to be honest nowadays I think that might have been a few really loud people and not the general consensus. Much like ZZ many people are now finding it much better than previously thought.
These 2 series never deserved to be treated like garbage and I'm happy people are reevaluating them now.
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DmonHiro
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 5:27 am
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Forgot to mention the the Double-X Gundam is absultely gorgeous, especially when its "wings" are deployed. I also love it because while it had an overpowered weapon that can easily defeat anyone, it has enough downsides that it's not just an "I win button", like other, later Gundams have. I mean, think about it: it can only be used at night, it takes a while to charge it, it can only go in a straight line, you can easily hit your allies with it, and if you somehow miss, the recharge time will end you.
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Topgunguy
Joined: 08 Dec 2015
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 5:37 am
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There's no way we can say for sure if being canceled helped it or hurt it because we have no clue what they initially planned. I can say, though, that considering that they had to wrap it up, they did a good job not leaving any loose ends untied.
As far as art and animation go, I have no idea how it's different from when it started, it all looks the same to me. If there is a slight drop in quality, I'm sure it's practically insignificant and in few places that only people who meticulously look for issues would be able to notice.
The series may not be as fast-paced as one would expect but Gundam is grounded in reality in terms of the politics and war, it shouldn't have to demote itself to being another shonen battle series like Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, and One Punch Man with monotonous action (and constant derailing, I'm looking at you, Big 3). Hell, even G Gundam didn't do that despite trying to be Street Fighter meets Dragon Ball Z meets Gundam.
I find it to be one of the best Gundam series and I'd even go as far as to say the UC can suck it when compared to it.
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HdE
Joined: 17 Nov 2015
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 5:39 pm
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Gotta say I also disagree with comments about the art and animation quality of this show. My copy of the show's first half arrived last week (I'm in the UK, and so I import a lot of stuff) and, having been eager to see Gundam X for a LONG time, I took a look at it right away. Seems like pretty classic 90's era animation to me. I'm diggin' it, overall.
The only dampener for me is the muddiness of the visuals, and the ghosting that's present on things like the title cards. The impact of 'AFTER WAR GUNDAM X' appearing on screen is kind of lost when it shows up with blurry VHS quality.
Im still excited to be getting so much Gundam, though. If I could tolerate the murky Bandai Gundam Wing releases (and the show itself) then I can tolerate this.
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dtm42
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:09 am
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I don't know where ANN got this notion that X is one of the less-liked Gundam shows. Sure, it's overshadowed by many of the more bombastic or zanier titles, and it won't make many people's top-five lists. But in the notoriously-divided fandom, X is one of the few animated works that everyone seems to agree is actually fairly decent (War in the Pocket would arguably be another). Basically, few people truly love X, but even fewer hate it, and because of the consensus surrounding its quality the show probably engenders the least flame amount of wars of any major Gundam title ever.
As for me, well, X easily makes my top three Gundam animated shows. Which is funny because early on I wasn't impressed with it, and it didn't really grab me until episode fifteen (I think) when there was a noticeable rise in storytelling quality.
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MadHi
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:10 am
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Why Gundam X is not one of the most liked, I'll never know, but I do know that it's the only Gundam series that almost no one (if any) actively hates. Wherever you go, you will always find people complaining about why another Gundam series is dissatisfying but almost no one slams X. I myself have yet to see anyone attack it for any reason. That's quite an achievement considering how broken the Gundam fanbase is, where I can unintentionally make enemies for saying I like another series some other guy hates or my opinions being labeled 'invalid' because I don't like a series someone else likes. X for some reason has people removing their fingers from the trigger.
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stowrag
Joined: 16 Nov 2010
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:44 am
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I actually have pretty fond memories of the series for the most part, but I never cared for the Frost brothers. They just never appealed to me as compelling or sympathetic villains. Like they're just barely a step above Ribbons Almark or the aliens from 00. Looking forward to finishing the series.
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