Tue Mar 18, 2014, 04:22 PM

What I've learned about the Affordable Care Act

What I've learned after a three-month war with these fiends: the ACA says the insurance companies cannot deny coverage to those with pre-existing conditions, which is true as far as it goes. But they can deny coverage for the life-saving medications necessary to treat those conditions. The insurance company I signed up with through the ACA exchange just denied coverage of my wife's multiple sclerosis medication. We're "covered," to the tune of $700 a month...just not for what she really needs.

A cozy loophole, that.

Fuck you, insurance industry.

Fuck you, Mr. President, you piece of shit used-car salesman.

From my heart and soul, fuck you.

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705 replies	Author	Time	Post
What I've learned about the Affordable Care Act (Original post)	WilliamPitt	Tuesday	OP
Hall-of-Fame Bullshit artist...	truebrit71	Tuesday	#1
I long for a time machine.	WilliamPitt	Tuesday	#3
My wife is a breast cancer survivor...	truebrit71	Tuesday	#11
I'm a cancer patient---without ACA I would have NO insurance	wordpix	Wednesday	#546
I hope your recovery is 100% successful...	truebrit71	Wednesday	#550
Wm Pitt---pls. inform your Congressional rep about this	wordpix	Wednesday	#554
Sounds like good advice, hopefully that may help Will's wife.	Jefferson23	Wednesday	#565
My copay (medicare part d) for my MS med is 1650 a month	Mojorabbit	Tuesday	#23
For which medication? Just curious.	TrollBuster9090	Tuesday	#204
Aubagio. I was in the experimental trial for several years and then the FDA approved it	Mojorabbit	Tuesday	#220
I looked up Aubagio to help out Pitt	steve2470	Tuesday	#222
But I think she is saying she could afford it for a while,	truedelphi	Tuesday	#358
But how much does it actually "cost" to make the drug?	Pharaoh	Wednesday	#538
excellent point nt	steve2470	Wednesday	#541
While drugs are too high, it's not like you do a google search and make it in the kitchen.	Hoyt	Wednesday	#579
Sorry but I don't buy all that shit	Pharaoh	Wednesday	#654
Then, why don't a couple of unemployed PhDs down the street make them and sell at half the price.	Hoyt	Wednesday	#658
They would be arrested.	Pharaoh	Wednesday	#659
but you can get a generic in Canada for about 3 bucks.	Pharaoh	Wednesday	#660
So, it is more difficult than you suggest. Like I said,	Hoyt	Wednesday	#661
Medicare part d was the prelude to heritage care	Doctor_J	Tuesday	#389
Definitely better before 2006- no drug coverage, elderly doing without, cutting pills in thirds, etc	Hoyt	Wednesday	#656
cannabinoids show promise for MS	wordpix	Wednesday	#548
I knew we were screwed	Mnpaul	Tuesday	#172
but it's all Lieberman's fault	Doctor_J	Tuesday	#392
The National Health system in the UK has a formulary.	pnwmom	Wednesday	#590
On the NHS if you need meds, you get meds.	truebrit71	Wednesday	#591
You get meds if they're listed as available on the formulary.	pnwmom	Wednesday	#592
I have two elderly parents that use the NHS all the time.	truebrit71	Wednesday	#595
That's because the doctors are choosing medicines off the formulary.	pnwmom	Wednesday	#596
Exactly	OwnedByCats	Wednesday	#608
I've been told otherwise by more than one Brit.	HuckleB	Wednesday	#609
Only if it's been approved by NICE	Spider Jerusalem	Thursday	#682
Anger IS a gift, my dear Will, and one you use most effectively.	CaliforniaPeggy	Tuesday	#2
"fuck you mr president you piece of shit used car salesman" is an "excellent rant"?	uppityperson	Tuesday	#207
And if I did?	CaliforniaPeggy	Tuesday	#208
If you did, it makes me sad to see 2 long term duers like you and he think that is ok	uppityperson	Tuesday	#235
I regret that you're sad. But I do stand with Will on this topic. n/t	CaliforniaPeggy	Tuesday	#238
I wish we'd gotten single payer, but can not understand calling him that. Or putting all the blame	uppityperson	Tuesday	#240
Miserable fucking crap shoot dealing with Insurance vultures.	JEB	Tuesday	#283
NH does not offer many options for insurance	magical thyme	Tuesday	#301
Look. Obama was so pathetic on this issue that even Jon Stewart called him out.	truedelphi	Tuesday	#369
So you agree President Obama is a "piece of shit used-car salesman" deserving "fuck you" on DU?	uppityperson	Tuesday	#370
Thoe were not my words,	truedelphi	Tuesday	#379
My apologies, I edited to remove the unneeded snark. Yes, there are a hell of a lot of problems,	uppityperson	Tuesday	#382
because greater of two evils	hfojvt	Wednesday	#559
They should have pushed for single payer with all their might.	Enthusiast	Wednesday	#503
No, the insurance companies are not legalized gambling, they're mass murderers for profit.	Scuba	Wednesday	#517
Sorry for your situation and sorry that you feel that way about the President. But the blame goes	kelliekat44	Wednesday	#532
Hi, did you mean to reply to Will?	uppityperson	Wednesday	#569
Pitt has done that before	brush	Wednesday	#476
"Too subtle for Pitt.." that's about it. Went right over his head which was	Cha	Wednesday	#479
nothing was missed, Pitt is just playing to a certain crowd looking to be popular	JI7	Wednesday	#480
Guess it's the Obama haters. nt	brush	Wednesday	#481
Yep and yep!	Kahuna	Wednesday	#498
Damn him for "playing" at having a real life problem.	quakerboy	Wednesday	#613
He'd be okay	Jakes Progress	Wednesday	#616
It's an "excellent rant" to those who don't care that his rage is misplaced.. it would be a	Cha	Wednesday	#455
THIS	sobenji	Wednesday	#525
This message was hidden by jury decision.	lbrtbell	Wednesday	#558
A-fucking-men! Well said!	truebrit71	Wednesday	#564
it was a great post.	kath	Wednesday	#582
The apologists can't handle the truth I guess...	truebrit71	Wednesday	#585
This	quakerboy	Wednesday	#615
I too was amazed that it was hidden...	truebrit71	Wednesday	#618
Thank You, sobenji!	Cha	Wednesday	#635
Oh My, that post that was hidden addressed to you,	Cha	Wednesday	#638
No. How could those bastards do that?	Autumn	Tuesday	#4
Heh.	WilliamPitt	Tuesday	#8
Those mother fuckers covered all the bases didn't they.	Autumn	Tuesday	#10
I'm pretty sure that is not true.	Nye Bevan	Tuesday	#53
Excellent advice.	QuestForSense	Tuesday	#96
It's super advice but, dammit,	crim son	Wednesday	#649
''with a polite but insistent appeal that this drug be covered.''	Whisp	Tuesday	#115
" not once have I ever failed to eventually get coverage "	Lex	Tuesday	#127
I meant the polite part ain't gonna happen.	Whisp	Tuesday	#132
Oh, I see. Yeah, probably.	Lex	Tuesday	#143
Ranting on the DU about how awful Obama is won't change anything	ConservativeDemocrat	Tuesday	#170
It's not like Obama is happy	Lex	Tuesday	#174
Some think he is. They truly believe it makes him happy that people suffer	Whisp	Tuesday	#279
Unless, of course,	ohheckyeah	Wednesday	#456
Great catch!...nt	Jesus Malverde	Wednesday	#486
it's already gotten him some sound advice	magical thyme	Tuesday	#307
True enough, but I think he could have gotten the same without screaming	ConservativeDemocrat	Wednesday	#633
I agree he could have gotten it without the screaming	magical thyme	Wednesday	#637
we should not have to spend our lives begging insurance companies to	Doctor_J	Tuesday	#395
what I think is moronic is	Whisp	Tuesday	#403
And cruel.	woo me with science	Tuesday	#407
Cruel	ctsnowman	Wednesday	#508
You only think that	ohheckyeah	Wednesday	#458
"do what they are supposed to do."	NCTraveler	Wednesday	#526
We got our annual benefits pitch from the insurance rep	Doctor_J	Wednesday	#529
"It has nothing to do with keeping me healthy."	NCTraveler	Wednesday	#533
While your advice is good advice, considering the system we have, it is truly sad that sick people	sabrina 1	Tuesday	#213
I'm one of the more pro-free market, pro-capitalism DUers	Nye Bevan	Tuesday	#236
Thank you! I support the free Market also, but not when it is abused, and imo, HC should	sabrina 1	Wednesday	#449
insurance companies will when forced cover what is in the contract	questionseverything	Tuesday	#250
On three occasions my insurer has denied coverage for a drug for a family member.	Nye Bevan	Tuesday	#253
the squeaking wheel definitely gets the grease	steve2470	Tuesday	#257
are you saying the ins paid for meds not covered in contract?	questionseverything	Tuesday	#263
My policies (and I believe most policies) have "non-formulary exception" provisions	Nye Bevan	Tuesday	#273
with that language he probably has a case	questionseverything	Tuesday	#280
Yeah, they are (deliberately, I think) vague about coverage prior to you taking out the policy.	Nye Bevan	Tuesday	#344
yes some drug companies have good plans to help	questionseverything	Wednesday	#575
I have never had an insurance company refuse to provide the formulary	Ms. Toad	Wednesday	#604
what i posted is the formulary	questionseverything	Wednesday	#606
From the first two pages of the formulary at the link you posted:	Ms. Toad	Wednesday	#617
if you have been reading what will has written	questionseverything	Wednesday	#620
I have won plenty of appeals for things which were not in the language of the contract.	Ms. Toad	Wednesday	#624
extra ordinary claims require proof	questionseverything	Wednesday	#640
Half the people in this thread defending the ACA	Aerows	Wednesday	#646
Right. Like I am going to post my medical documentation on the internet.	Ms. Toad	Wednesday	#648
ok since you took the time for all that i will try and address it	questionseverything	Wednesday	#657
All three are outside the language of the policy -	Ms. Toad	Wednesday	#663
maybe this exchange will help you understand	questionseverything	Thursday	#697
Yes. The insurance company paid for meds not in the contract.	Ms. Toad	Yesterday	#702
Connecticut??? Huh.	bullsnarfle	Wednesday	#540
agree about going to state insurance agency---also go to your Congresscritters	wordpix	Wednesday	#557
You are not required to stay in a grandfathered plan.	thesquanderer	Tuesday	#92
Will, you have been grossly misinformed by your friend and ally.	pnwmom	Tuesday	#324
Yes, the main thing to bear in mind is that there is no premium subsidy with an off-exchange plan.	Nye Bevan	Tuesday	#349
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Thursday	#686
I repeat: I refuse to die until I have first danced on the mass grave of for profit health	Zorra	Tuesday	#5
Can i join you in waiting for that dance	truedelphi	Tuesday	#360
Me too.	Enthusiast	Wednesday	#505
Me three.	Brigid	Wednesday	#571
Unfortunately I won't outlive Heritage Care	Doctor_J	Wednesday	#530
This might help a little...	C_U_L8R	Tuesday	#6
More people need to be made aware that this can happen! This needs to go viral, because	loudsue	Tuesday	#7
You didnt check to see if an ongoing medication was covered before you signed up?	Egnever	Tuesday	#9
Blaming the victim is worse than foolish,	bvar22	Tuesday	#47
LOL	Egnever	Tuesday	#74
ok i'll bite	questionseverything	Tuesday	#234
I looked on that pdf file and can't find certolizumab pegol yet nt	steve2470	Tuesday	#245
It's called a formulary and every insurance company has them. It is	sinkingfeeling	Wednesday	#544
yes it is a formulary, that was the point	questionseverything	Wednesday	#583
We need more consumer protection to protect us from insurance companies	LiberalEsto	Wednesday	#587
Then why can anybody go online and get a copy of the specialty drugs?	sinkingfeeling	Wednesday	#602
no where in that link does it say what is covered	questionseverything	Wednesday	#605
I can't explain it to you. It's how all drug coverage insurance works. Not all drugs	sinkingfeeling	Wednesday	#607
people were saying will was wrong for not checking the formulary	questionseverything	Wednesday	#610
The online link for some specialty drugs	Ms. Toad	Wednesday	#619
This message was self-deleted by its author	REP	Wednesday	#632
That is not correct.	Ms. Toad	Wednesday	#614
I was able to make a drug list on the wesite - of any and all level drugs -	Control-Z	Wednesday	#644
"Being a victim is beyond foolish"	Hissyspit	Tuesday	#266
Every single insurance company should be regarded	JEB	Tuesday	#334
Could you please tell me what medications I'm going to on	Boudica the Lyoness	Wednesday	#446
You are dead wrong. There may be alternative medications that work as well.	bluestate10	Tuesday	#119
Excuse me, Dr. Bluestate.	lapislzi	Tuesday	#262
"If a patient insists on a particular medication when other therapies will work" and there is the	uppityperson	Tuesday	#352
"Everyone who has ever been deceived by an insurance company is a fool!"	Zorra	Tuesday	#94
There was no deception	Egnever	Tuesday	#99
Maybe YOU have the knowlege and skills to do all of that,	bvar22	Tuesday	#126
This message was hidden by jury decision.	Egnever	Tuesday	#145
Yeah, I know.	bvar22	Tuesday	#258
Pretty well sums up my experience as well.	JEB	Tuesday	#296
A master obfuscater.	Enthusiast	Wednesday	#506
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Thursday	#687
Insurance companies have the art of deception down through omission,	Zorra	Tuesday	#144
Not sure what any of that has to do with checking the formulary before you purchase a plan	Egnever	Tuesday	#156
As I understand it, no insurance company is required to pay for a medication that hasn't been proven	TrollBuster9090	Tuesday	#224
I was not permitted access to the formulary before I purchased my plan. nt	Zorra	Tuesday	#284
Thank you for relating the realities of the situation.	truedelphi	Wednesday	#497
You touched on something important..	freebrew	Wednesday	#555
Yeah, "the insurance company".. maybe pitt should have been "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck"	Cha	Tuesday	#180
WTF?!	Demo_Chris	Tuesday	#118
The poster made a valid observation. nt	bluestate10	Tuesday	#124
stating somebody was a fool for not reviewing the formulary before signing up	magical thyme	Tuesday	#318
Third Way Free Marketeers value profit over human well being, so they	Zorra	Tuesday	#316
Wow, I did not see that happen.	PowerToThePeople	Tuesday	#322
There is not enough information posted on the providers' websites to garner this information.	MoonchildCA	Wednesday	#462
What if my medicine isn't on a plan's formulary?	itsrobert	Tuesday	#12
I don't think we are getting all the details and facts here...	Whisp	Tuesday	#13
Indeed. He's giving up on a new plan because some insurance adjuster advised him not to bother	itsrobert	Tuesday	#17
If the nation's citizenry had been offered real health care reform and not	truedelphi	Tuesday	#385
Because he is Will Pitt	theboss	Wednesday	#577
I agree, why would an Obamacare plan	treestar	Tuesday	#79
They darn sure do. Medicare has no out-of-pocket cap, for example.	Hoyt	Tuesday	#90
The accusation does sound somewhat suspicious and was delivered emotionally.	bluestate10	Tuesday	#130
Someone's sort of stuck on permanent anger at this point. No, we don't have all the facts.	Hekate	Tuesday	#233
Good post...	SidDithers	Tuesday	#386
"he signed up for a lifetime of reading the fine print and doing the research"	wickerwoman	Wednesday	#477
Lucky you. But in the OP's case, he is a highly articulate professional writer, activist, & teacher	Hekate	Wednesday	#483
I am from America	wickerwoman	Wednesday	#484
I realized about two years ago that being enraged	truedelphi	Wednesday	#496
Appealing the decision doesn't guarantee coverage, just a review, and it can still be denied...	Humanist_Activist	Tuesday	#42
Yeah, it also can be approved	itsrobert	Tuesday	#51
I'm assuming what the OP meant by a 3 month fight is that they already...	Humanist_Activist	Tuesday	#66
I'm assuming nothing	itsrobert	Tuesday	#73
The President ends up responsible for all the bad things that happen	treestar	Tuesday	#80
Happens all the time in the Miltiary Tricare System	itsrobert	Tuesday	#82
They are about a 100 times easier to deal with than say any BCBS	TheKentuckian	Thursday	#683
I don't blame the President personally, this system predates him by about 40 years...	Humanist_Activist	Tuesday	#84
Yes. That's about all I got out of the whine.	lumpy	Tuesday	#151
Via HHS.gov	JoeyT	Tuesday	#49
Later today I'm sending the Koch brothers a letter appealing their decision	MannyGoldstein	Wednesday	#510
Are prescription drug plans the same in every state?	itsrobert	Tuesday	#14
My heart goes out to you and your wife, Will.	Baitball Blogger	Tuesday	#15
How do I know if a health plan will cover the medicines I take?	itsrobert	Tuesday	#16
Thats nice.	bvar22	Tuesday	#50
What? For profit health care screwing people for profit?	progressoid	Tuesday	#18
80% of what people pay is supposed to go toward health care	marzipanni	Tuesday	#72
No.	progressoid	Tuesday	#114
No. That's two separate issues.	Recursion	Wednesday	#444
Two separate issues - same wallet.	progressoid	Wednesday	#472
Yes, that's what deductibles are	Recursion	Wednesday	#475
Imagine that	Jack for Sanders	Tuesday	#19
Yeh, I'm so sure Obama gets a jolly laugh out of peope not getting their medication	Whisp	Tuesday	#131
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Tuesday	#20
What's the medication and what is your plan you are on?	itsrobert	Tuesday	#21
Blaming the victim - that makes it better.	TBF	Tuesday	#38
I'm just asking questions	itsrobert	Tuesday	#46
People really aren't that stupid itsrobert -	TBF	Tuesday	#55
A better question would be why aren't the formularies standard from one policy to the next.	Lars39	Tuesday	#86
Fuck you, Mr. President, you piece of shit used-car salesman. From my heart and soul, fuck you.	one_voice	Tuesday	#22
+1	Wait Wut	Tuesday	#24
Thanks for kicking my thread.	WilliamPitt	Tuesday	#25
"explain that away, apologist"? WTF. It would seem someone with your ability to use words would	uppityperson	Tuesday	#32
The OP's behavior was fucking insulting and wrong. I happen to live in the same state	bluestate10	Tuesday	#146
Thank you for a boots on the ground assessment. I think we'd all like more details to see if there	okaawhatever	Tuesday	#373
The raging anger at the President gets in the way even if it isn't Obama's	Cha	Tuesday	#165
I feel for your wife Will..	one_voice	Tuesday	#78
Psst. The president didn't write the law.	Orsino	Tuesday	#171
Manny, are you saying only pre-existing conditions that have never been exposed to insurance.....	marble falls	Wednesday	#523
Manny. LOL.	tridim	Wednesday	#531
Seriously, wtf. If that is not alerted on or hidden, is calling Pres Obama that is ok per	uppityperson	Tuesday	#29
He hasn't fucked you over.	WilliamPitt	Tuesday	#30
What does the President have to do with your insurance company's formulary?	ProSense	Tuesday	#34
I can see getting angry at an insurance company adjustor	treestar	Tuesday	#70
It's a habit of his. Obamacare has absolutely nothing to do with this crisis but	Cha	Tuesday	#193
Well, maybe if Obama had TOLD the insurance companies what to do instead of	Lydia Leftcoast	Tuesday	#83
Formularies are not determined by the President, and existed before ACA	ProSense	Tuesday	#88
True, formularies existed, but that doesn't mean they SHOULD exist	Lydia Leftcoast	Tuesday	#93
Well the	ProSense	Tuesday	#117
Canada has formularies. The UK has formularies. Single payer doesn't work without them.	Recursion	Wednesday	#445
Prescription medications are not covered in Canadian Health Care...	SidDithers	Wednesday	#603
EXACTLY!!! I related that fact in an earlier post. My sense is that the OP is	bluestate10	Tuesday	#159
So how would THAT work ...	1StrongBlackMan	Tuesday	#198
As opposed to having the companies tell HIM what to do?	Lydia Leftcoast	Tuesday	#400
Well ...	1StrongBlackMan	Wednesday	#513
Most importantly Presidents execute the laws and enforce them. Thats why its called the executive ..	marble falls	Wednesday	#527
My complaint is not about what Obama's legal powers. It's about	Lydia Leftcoast	Wednesday	#586
You are not the only person here making sensible claims and	truedelphi	Tuesday	#398
What is sensible about claims and statements like this ...	1StrongBlackMan	Wednesday	#561
What they are trying to emphasize in a statement like that one,	truedelphi	Wednesday	#598
Okay. eom	1StrongBlackMan	Wednesday	#601
Thank you!	Lydia Leftcoast	Thursday	#684
Details.. everything is President Obama's fault when it comes to one	Cha	Tuesday	#123
You miss the point of calling him "a used car salesman piece of shit".	uppityperson	Tuesday	#35
+1 nt	Dreamer Tatum	Tuesday	#43
This message was hidden by jury decision.	WilliamPitt	Tuesday	#59
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Tuesday	#246
Is he the insurance adjustor?	treestar	Tuesday	#69
He handed the proces over to them.	WilliamPitt	Tuesday	#75
That is a bullshit claim. Congress passed the ACA, the President is doing his best to	bluestate10	Tuesday	#166
Maybe you shouldn't have left MA for "tax free NH?" It's nice up there but you get what you pay	MADem	Tuesday	#350
And the President of the United States personally fucked you over?	brush	Wednesday	#482
Jury left it 3-3...	one_voice	Tuesday	#31
I was wondering what the results were.	Autumn	Tuesday	#33
I wasn't the original alerter.	one_voice	Tuesday	#122
The jury on your post was 3-3	The Straight Story	Tuesday	#37
Wow...	one_voice	Tuesday	#62
I voted to leave (for obvious reasons)	The Straight Story	Tuesday	#63
Yeah I agree...	one_voice	Tuesday	#81
Incredible.	uppityperson	Tuesday	#41
Oh he thinks he can throw any fucking insult he wants against the President ..	Cha	Tuesday	#135
ROFL	alcibiades_mystery	Tuesday	#368
Hopefully that post and this overall thread will result in some admin attention	Number23	Wednesday	#465
It's the Knee Jerk Obama Syndrome.. and this	Cha	Wednesday	#469
jury Left it.	Whisp	Tuesday	#136
Thank you. "a little over the top"	uppityperson	Tuesday	#142
Well, the pitt fans weren't on this jury.. and he wouldn't know "truth" if it gobsmacked him	Cha	Tuesday	#378
I agree. In the past calling the President a "POS" would have been a clear violation. One thing	lostincalifornia	Tuesday	#176
Really. Misplaced anger.. but the President is always handy when it comes time	Cha	Tuesday	#182
I find your anger misplaced	Oilwellian	Tuesday	#209
I'm not Raging at the President for something that isn't his fault. Throwing all kinds of idiotic	Cha	Tuesday	#218
Lashing out in this fashion doesn't do any good	mythology	Wednesday	#669
Amazing and oh so tolerant	AnalystInParadise	Tuesday	#267
typical as well to defend that OP	Whisp	Tuesday	#362
I don't like Will	AnalystInParadise	Tuesday	#372
I don't like him either because he tends to *ahem, exaggerate things	Whisp	Tuesday	#374
If there is proof	AnalystInParadise	Tuesday	#377
See post 476. Pitt has went off mistakenly on the President before	brush	Wednesday	#485
And before today	AnalystInParadise	Wednesday	#652
Seems to show a pattern	brush	Wednesday	#664
Yeah this sucks.	dilby	Tuesday	#26
It's a fucking shark tank.	WilliamPitt	Tuesday	#27
After all that fighting, we end up with insurance companies	NightWatcher	Tuesday	#28
Sometimes you just have to take a pain pill	obliviously	Tuesday	#36
At least put in an appeal.	Lex	Tuesday	#39
That should be the first course of actions. In fact if a physician says the patient absolutely	lostincalifornia	Tuesday	#181
Same here. Every single year I print out my original letter detailing what the generic does to me...	Hekate	Tuesday	#247
Getting the Website UP, and getting people Signed Up was the EASY part.	bvar22	Tuesday	#40
"The Affordable care Act provides NO Watch Dog Agency"	Aerows	Wednesday	#621
I'd feel angry too. But was she on this med before, and are there any alternatives?	Hoyt	Tuesday	#44
My partner's MS drug is covered under the state employee plan in NC	Lex	Tuesday	#97
I think there is a way with this one. At least I hope. Sorry they are going through this.	Hoyt	Tuesday	#105
He shouldn't have to "appeal" to get her medicine!!!!	Doctor_J	Wednesday	#551
"Shouldn't have to" is a different issue altogether. nt	Lex	Wednesday	#553
A lot of medicines do essentially the same thing	theboss	Wednesday	#580
I suspect that cheaper alternatives were offered and rejected. Some alternatives,	bluestate10	Tuesday	#175
If the DOCTOR agrees that the drug is needed, the insurance companies will go with the doctor.	MADem	Tuesday	#361
I agree, something is missing. I'm not sure insurance companies always go with docs, especially	Hoyt	Tuesday	#363
If the doctor puts his or her foot down, the insurance companies will fold.	MADem	Tuesday	#375
I get it. Most folks here would really get po'd if faced with formularies in Canada, England, etc.	Hoyt	Tuesday	#387
We needed (and asked for) a public service. They gave us a consumer product.	1000words	Tuesday	#45
Single Payer isn't going to happen until republicans are either proven completely	bluestate10	Tuesday	#177
Crumbs	1000words	Tuesday	#189
Your last sentence is a collection of words that have no logical basis.	bluestate10	Tuesday	#206
One thing is dead certain..	sendero	Tuesday	#281
It wasn't The Republicans who stopped the Public Option.	bvar22	Tuesday	#264
You may as well be speaking with tongues.	djean111	Wednesday	#501
Capitalism has to go -	TBF	Tuesday	#48
Pay us or DIEEEE!!!11!!	PowerToThePeople	Tuesday	#106
This article might be of help?	Lex	Tuesday	#52
You should not call people pieces of shit.	bravenak	Tuesday	#54
I think Will's account has been hacked. There is no other explanation. nt	tridim	Tuesday	#61
Nope.	WilliamPitt	Tuesday	#64
Then it's just the gift of anger.	tridim	Tuesday	#67
And he should not be angry when his wife's life is at stake.	zeemike	Tuesday	#183
He is angry ALL THE TIME, at Obama. nt	tridim	Wednesday	#512
And you are hyperbolic ALL THE TIME. nt	zeemike	Wednesday	#514
Genius response in this shit thread.	tridim	Wednesday	#515
Sometimes being a mirror is all you can do.	zeemike	Wednesday	#516
I am feeling a bit scared for him if that is him.	bravenak	Tuesday	#76
I hope it's resolved.	CJCRANE	Tuesday	#120
I think we can figure out a way if he is interested.	bravenak	Tuesday	#129
That's a great idea.	Wait Wut	Tuesday	#140
Good idea.	bravenak	Tuesday	#148
Not me.. I recognize his raging knee jerk reaction for Pres Obama..	Cha	Tuesday	#225
But, i bet we could help him if he wants our help.	bravenak	Tuesday	#268
Yes, bravenak.. I believe this poster said it best..	Cha	Tuesday	#282
He should take the advice on this and rail about another issue.	bravenak	Tuesday	#292
Well he did this one "piece of shit used car salesman" Hidden and will wouldn't know "the truth" if	Cha	Tuesday	#304
Open enrollement does not end until the 31st, look for a new plan	Motown_Johnny	Tuesday	#56
It's New Hampshire.	WilliamPitt	Tuesday	#68
But you said in a post above that NH has ten options, have you tried the other nine?	sheshe2	Tuesday	#100
Since health-care costs can't be deducted from taxes unless you run up an enormous bill,	bluestate10	Tuesday	#184
First, edit your OP. This is a state issue	Motown_Johnny	Tuesday	#265
We have Anthem and use eScripts as their mail order pharmacy	Purrfessor	Wednesday	#502
Have you gone to the National Multiple Sclerosis Society web site?	JoePhilly	Tuesday	#57
I found this on their website as well	steve2470	Tuesday	#205
Kudos for you too!	DebJ	Tuesday	#396
Cool! Nice to see some real assistance being offered!	DebJ	Tuesday	#394
Misplaced anger is the downfall of many great people. nt	tridim	Tuesday	#58
Misplaced loyalty, too.	1000words	Tuesday	#77
Even moreso. n/t	Aerows	Wednesday	#622
aca is not about health care, it is about health insurance companies health care may or may not be	msongs	Tuesday	#60
So it was covered before, and now isn't?	treestar	Tuesday	#65
You're missing the point.	WilliamPitt	Tuesday	#71
+1	ChazII	Tuesday	#101
I you feel there are no alternatives, or your physician's authorization cannot remedy it, then start	lostincalifornia	Tuesday	#185
She asked you a simple question. WAS the drug covered by you plan before	bluestate10	Tuesday	#196
Your agent falsely told you a non-exchange insurer may deny someone for preexisting conditions.	pnwmom	Wednesday	#435
Are other MS medications covered?	theboss	Wednesday	#578
that is the problem with using the existing insurance companies	dembotoz	Tuesday	#85
A long shot and possibly illegal	Lydia Leftcoast	Tuesday	#87
Just use the prescription that the U.S. doctor wrote, and have it filled by a reliable pharmacy in	lostincalifornia	Tuesday	#190
Or go for a drive. It's not like he's all that far from the border.	MADem	Tuesday	#364
Medication from Canada	Aerows	Wednesday	#623
One argument that has been used is that we are subsidizing the other countries costs for the drugs,	lostincalifornia	Wednesday	#626
It's a bullshit argument	Aerows	Wednesday	#628
Regardless a lot of the problem is Congress	lostincalifornia	Wednesday	#666
No arguments from me	Aerows	Wednesday	#667
So should I self-delete?	lostincalifornia	Thursday	#672
I was just teasing	Aerows	Thursday	#673
I didn't take you seriously, though I did repost the same response, just in case	lostincalifornia	Thursday	#675
Seriously, I really didn't mean anything by it	Aerows	Thursday	#677
I know. LOL	lostincalifornia	Thursday	#678
You never know	Aerows	Thursday	#680
Regardless, a lot of the problem is Congress	lostincalifornia	Thursday	#674
A lot of the problem	Aerows	Thursday	#676
Does RomneyCare have the same problem in Mass?	Common Sense Party	Tuesday	#89
The OP lives in New Hampshire. Until LePage took over in Maine, NH was the	bluestate10	Tuesday	#202
The plan in MA is very good. I've got friends and family with complex medical issues and they	MADem	Tuesday	#365
calm down Will, have a stiff drink. nt	dionysus	Tuesday	#91
If only we could get them	Mr.Bill	Tuesday	#109
yeah it's probably out of network.	dionysus	Tuesday	#199
If there is any research or other assitance any of us could provide, please ask no matter	Bluenorthwest	Tuesday	#95
Did anyone expect insurance companies to allow their profits to be fucked with?	Auggie	Tuesday	#98
I cerntainly didn't.	dilby	Tuesday	#108
I hope you're able to resolve this, Will.	CJCRANE	Tuesday	#102
This message was self-deleted by its author	nadinbrzezinski	Tuesday	#103
New Jersey?	rudolph the red	Tuesday	#178
You are right, my mistake, he should call his delegation from Massachusetts.	nadinbrzezinski	Tuesday	#179
And I was right. Will lives in New Jersey.	nadinbrzezinski	Tuesday	#329
The OP lives in New Hampshire.	rudolph the red	Tuesday	#338
My apologies, he should still contact his delegation	nadinbrzezinski	Tuesday	#342
Agreed	rudolph the red	Tuesday	#346
true.. but no "mainstream" candidate for President in the last 30 years would dare disobey	Douglas Carpenter	Tuesday	#104
I'm so sorry, Will.	LiberalAndProud	Tuesday	#107
It's these kind of inexcusable problems with the ACA	seveneyes	Tuesday	#110
It's simply not true that nobody read the health care bill before it was passed.	cheapdate	Wednesday	#423
The most basic...letting a doctor decide which medicine, not an insurance company	seveneyes	Wednesday	#504
As has been pointed out by others on this thread,	cheapdate	Wednesday	#665
It isn't what was promised, we were lied to, and people are suffering for it.	Skip Intro	Tuesday	#111
No one "lied" about the problem in the OP.	ProSense	Tuesday	#128
The President's personal choice is probably single payer.	Lex	Tuesday	#153
no it wasn't	Doctor_J	Wednesday	#419
Sure	Lex	Wednesday	#420
In 2008, Camnpaign Obama said that he preferred Single Payer,	bvar22	Wednesday	#581
Oh please.	Skip Intro	Tuesday	#274
What	ProSense	Tuesday	#327
It's all a parsing and spin game with you, Prosense.	Skip Intro	Tuesday	#343
This thread isn't about facts.	ProSense	Tuesday	#351
Little here is about facts when those facts "hurt" Obama.	Skip Intro	Tuesday	#353
It has become so very obvious over the years.	Rex	Thursday	#696
Good news! No matter how bad they fuck you, thanks to Obama you still have to buy it. nt	Demo_Chris	Tuesday	#112
I don't need expensive medication, but sometimes I get rejected for a maintenance medication	bluestate10	Tuesday	#113
Quick question	Aerows	Wednesday	#625
While you are at it you should fuck the 5,000,000 who now have insurance & didn't before.	Bernardo de La Paz	Tuesday	#116
Having insurance is not the same as having healthcare.	dilby	Tuesday	#121
Or...	Wait Wut	Tuesday	#137
Thanks for your post.	Number23	Wednesday	#467
True. But Obama made affordable insurance the law of the land.	Bernardo de La Paz	Tuesday	#139
Single Payer would have been better.	dilby	Tuesday	#152
I bet the President would have definitely preferred single payer, but	Lex	Tuesday	#154
Well now it never will.	dilby	Tuesday	#158
"Healthcare tax" phrasing is Republican framing of the issues.	Bernardo de La Paz	Tuesday	#162
No, this mediocre ACA is a step on the road to eventual single payer once	Lex	Tuesday	#163
Nope, the ACA makes it more likely	jeff47	Wednesday	#439
Of course, but too many scared Dem congresspeople would have voted it down.	Bernardo de La Paz	Tuesday	#160
+100. n/t	Skip Intro	Tuesday	#366
When those five million go to use the insurance, then	truedelphi	Tuesday	#380
Not true and you know it	brush	Wednesday	#488
I get it. Insurance is not health care. But they will get more care than they got before.	Bernardo de La Paz	Wednesday	#499
Oh hell! I'm so sorry, Will. n/t	Duval	Tuesday	#125
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Tuesday	#133
You live in MA right?	boston bean	Tuesday	#134
He moved to tax free NH, there are fewer options up there. nt	MADem	Tuesday	#384
WRP, if it were	Duval	Tuesday	#138
Just what mankind needs, more hate. That will sure come in handy in obtaining pills for Mrs.Pitt.	lumpy	Tuesday	#192
I have had many a fight with Anthem about non-approved medication	naturallyselected	Tuesday	#141
fu	kardonb	Tuesday	#147
What would have been different	meanit	Tuesday	#187
Let me get this straight...	Hissyspit	Tuesday	#275
ANY medication that a physician prescribes should be covered by health insurance	Agony	Tuesday	#149
I completely agree	steve2470	Tuesday	#168
I understand Will's anger.	pacalo	Tuesday	#150
I could too if it weren't for a certain history of	Whisp	Tuesday	#161
I agree with you to a certain extent, Whisp.	pacalo	Tuesday	#169
Not to call the President "a piece of shit" though. He's got anger issues — and with the President	brush	Wednesday	#489
We don't know at this point that Will won't regret his choice of words.	pacalo	Wednesday	#495
Not in that childish and disrespectful way.	Whisp	Wednesday	#543
IMO he should regret it. You can express anger issues without being digustingly disrespectful	brush	Wednesday	#588
The language may be over the top but the opinions aren't. I look forward to his posts.	marble falls	Wednesday	#535
check with the company that makes the medication	blindersoff	Tuesday	#155
I thought "covers preexisting conditions" meant that you would be able to get affordable insurance	tarheelsunc	Tuesday	#157
Hi Will, I just looked up Aubagio...	steve2470	Tuesday	#164
I found some info...	Wait Wut	Tuesday	#214
yes good point	steve2470	Tuesday	#219
Maybe we should be pissed off at the pharmaceutical companies...	Wait Wut	Tuesday	#227
It is a serious issue	steve2470	Tuesday	#229
It is, but...	Wait Wut	Tuesday	#231
Maybe we should be pissed off at the pharmaceutical companies	one_voice	Tuesday	#237
You mean we aren't pissed at Big Pharm already.	marble falls	Wednesday	#537
I remember not that long ago...	Wait Wut	Wednesday	#576
Canada has price controls	Aerows	Wednesday	#641
It's insane.	Wait Wut	Thursday	#685
find another insurer under the exchange that will cover it. If they do then find out if you can	lostincalifornia	Tuesday	#167
Did you look at the insurer's formulary?	Politicub	Tuesday	#173
Any chance u can give a little bit more info	jamzrockz	Tuesday	#186
Reading through this thread I find myself somewhat amazed that even on a very liberal ...	spin	Tuesday	#188
You could be going to VA for medical care.	Lars39	Tuesday	#195
I tried a few years ago. ....	spin	Tuesday	#249
I think there is an income requirement, but Viet Nam era vets are eligible.	Lars39	Tuesday	#260
I find myself feeling much the same. Many DUers are opposed to Medicare Advantage plans, yet they	Hoyt	Tuesday	#203
I had an excellent healthcare plan when I was working and it continued after I retired until ...	spin	Tuesday	#254
worthy of its own thread	Skittles	Tuesday	#251
The main problem in our country	Aerows	Wednesday	#636
The ACA waw written the way it was through the efforts of two people:	truedelphi	Tuesday	#357
This Thread Disturbs Me Too	RobinA	Tuesday	#393
I'm shocked that someone as smart and informed as Will was so seriously misled.	pnwmom	Wednesday	#459
it amazes me too that there are so many Obama haters . . .	brush	Wednesday	#491
This probably won't make you feel any better	laundry_queen	Tuesday	#191
We've all always had to deal with insurance companies not wanting to cover certain meds.	Lex	Tuesday	#194
Just out of curiosity, what medications did you ask for that were denied?	TrollBuster9090	Tuesday	#197
Rebif, for example, is a standard drug and is about $16,000 per year.	Lex	Tuesday	#201
Those are brand name formulations of things like beta-interferon. Not to be naive, but is it	TrollBuster9090	Tuesday	#211
Don't know of any generic versions.	Lex	Tuesday	#223
Or there could be alternative treatments that are cheaper and shown to be equally effective.	TrollBuster9090	Tuesday	#226
Best to appeal with a doctor's letter requiring	Lex	Tuesday	#228
as far as I know	blindersoff	Wednesday	#639
Good!	TrollBuster9090	Wednesday	#642
This message was hidden by jury decision.	Pirate Smile	Tuesday	#200
Lovely, just lovely	Oilwellian	Tuesday	#215
and calling the President a piece of shit belongs in freeperland.	Whisp	Tuesday	#221
Unbelievable	panader0	Tuesday	#261
I'm amused by those who are suddenly above name-calling.	1000words	Tuesday	#239
Calling the President a "piece of shit" is what's disgusting	brush	Wednesday	#492
I agree with Will	the_sly_pig	Tuesday	#210
I'm so sorry, Will	Oilwellian	Tuesday	#212
Obamacare really should have been called The Affordable Insurance Act.	djean111	Tuesday	#216
Maybe this page from NH will help you, Pitt ?	steve2470	Tuesday	#217
I think this is covered	obliviously	Tuesday	#230
An ill-advised comment, Will.	MineralMan	Tuesday	#232
Has Skinner...	greytdemocrat	Tuesday	#241
It is standard practice of insurance companies to deny medications or claims.	Glimmer of Hope	Tuesday	#242
Anybody else would have gotten an instant tombstone.	rudolph the red	Tuesday	#243
that is right. special rules apply with this one	Whisp	Tuesday	#270
I sold a used car three weeks ago	panader0	Tuesday	#244
The argument I suspect that will be made is the restrictions were hidden or ambiguous. My only	lostincalifornia	Tuesday	#252
What?	Hissyspit	Tuesday	#276
It's not an analogy--I really did sell a used car	panader0	Tuesday	#289
I'm so sorry Will...	KoKo	Tuesday	#248
Try this pharmacy in Canada...	Holly_Hobby	Tuesday	#255
Who Was Paying For Your Wife's MS Drug Before ACA?	Indykatie	Tuesday	#256
it was covered by a different insurance company/plan	magical thyme	Tuesday	#323
MA had "Commonwealth Care"--our local ACA---for years, since the Mittsy days.	MADem	Tuesday	#391
ACA is not perfect.	Texasgal	Tuesday	#259
People who live in civilized countries don't have to worry about that,	bvar22	Tuesday	#269
+1,000	JEB	Tuesday	#277
+1	leftstreet	Tuesday	#287
+ 10000000000000	woo me with science	Wednesday	#410
Yeah, but we didn't have 99 Democrats in the Senate	jsr	Wednesday	#432
Best post on the whole thread.	marble falls	Wednesday	#539
Congratulations Mr. Pitt. You are the Free Republic's favorite DUmmie today!!!!	Cofitachequi	Tuesday	#271
Yes, that's helpful to post here.	Hissyspit	Tuesday	#278
And it's helpful to have a post saying "fuck you Obama?"	lostincalifornia	Tuesday	#290
of course it is! that is, if you 'wrote a book', you can say and do	Whisp	Tuesday	#294
what would be helpful is if you can	bobduca	Tuesday	#305
There have been numerous posts in this thread with suggestions, most not being responded to by the	lostincalifornia	Tuesday	#310
The OP has been silenced.	LiberalAndProud	Wednesday	#473
Oh	lostincalifornia	Wednesday	#478
He has the right to feel horrible about his wife's illness and the difficulties in . . .	brush	Wednesday	#493
If it was my wife suffering due to this law	AnalystInParadise	Tuesday	#314
Nailed It.	bvar22	Tuesday	#320
The ACA has	ProSense	Tuesday	#325
You know	AnalystInParadise	Tuesday	#328
"Good day sir." I'm a woman. n/t	ProSense	Tuesday	#330
Ironic	AnalystInParadise	Tuesday	#333
Yes, clearly you're not a "know it all..." n/t	ProSense	Tuesday	#337
I don't claim to be	AnalystInParadise	Tuesday	#341
Your posts are pretty insulting	sheshe2	Tuesday	#359
I will delete nothing	AnalystInParadise	Tuesday	#371
You did a blatant call out.	sheshe2	Tuesday	#399
Thank you	AnalystInParadise	Tuesday	#405
Ah, you play games and like to score points.	sheshe2	Wednesday	#409
Apparently,	ProSense	Tuesday	#381
So in your mind	AnalystInParadise	Tuesday	#390
LOL!	ProSense	Tuesday	#401
Much more generous and humane response than any insurance fucks	JEB	Tuesday	#356
Who CARES what FR thinks?	bvar22	Tuesday	#286
it doesn't bother you that the OP uses FR words insulting the President	Whisp	Tuesday	#291
What are FR words?	AnalystInParadise	Tuesday	#335
the OP did the character assasination on the President.	Whisp	Tuesday	#340
Perhaps if the President had offered up a few fights for the middle class on any of the following:	truedelphi	Tuesday	#376
I believe that Will found his own words to express exactly what he was feeling...	bvar22	Tuesday	#347
yeh, let's all speak like the OP did/does...	Whisp	Tuesday	#348
Exactly my thought, bvar.	1000words	Tuesday	#295
I am sure the over the top post is all over the RW groups. It is really sad that instead of	lostincalifornia	Tuesday	#288
Exactly, it could have been a post asking for advice,	Whisp	Tuesday	#297
Agreed	lostincalifornia	Tuesday	#299
Are you 12?	AnalystInParadise	Tuesday	#319
Well, he had two options	jeff47	Wednesday	#443
When did links to FR become cool to post on DU?	bobduca	Tuesday	#300
Why do some DU members watch faux? To see what the enemy is saying. Saying "fuck you Obama" is	lostincalifornia	Tuesday	#306
it seems like a case of strange bedfellows to go scanning FR for what they say about "dummies"	bobduca	Tuesday	#317
I don't watch any of that garbage, however, that is the reason I have been told when I inquired.	lostincalifornia	Tuesday	#326
FR links have always been allowed here. n/t	Whisp	Tuesday	#309
No, they haven't.	Hissyspit	Tuesday	#311
FR links have been here as long as I have.	LiberalAndProud	Wednesday	#474
Thanks!	bobduca	Tuesday	#313
They have been allowed to laugh at	Whisp	Tuesday	#315
I can give you somewhat of an answer on your first question.	DebJ	Wednesday	#411
Huh! interesting you chose to post that.	hrmjustin	Tuesday	#383
Will, here is something you might want to check out	passiveporcupine	Tuesday	#272
I would dump that 'friend' of yours who advised you nothing can be done.	Whisp	Tuesday	#285
Yup. He's either ignorant of his own product or he just told a big fat fib. n/t	pnwmom	Tuesday	#332
Is it too late to switch companies if you can find a better one?	pnwmom	Tuesday	#293
This message was self-deleted by its author	DebJ	Wednesday	#414
No, but it means it's worth the effort, despite what the agent said, to check the formularies	pnwmom	Wednesday	#437
Thanks for checking me there...you can only change coverage thru the 31st IF the	DebJ	Wednesday	#509
The ACA has been saving a lot of lives. So fuck your childish, petty, "fuck you".	phleshdef	Tuesday	#298
I would not be surprised if your post gets hidden, while the ops didn't. This is not a constructiv	lostincalifornia	Tuesday	#302
Yea, it will probably be the first one I've had hidden in a long time.	phleshdef	Tuesday	#303
It seems that way	lostincalifornia	Tuesday	#308
Yea, I mean fuck Obama for expanding Medicaid and buying Medicare 8 more years.	phleshdef	Tuesday	#312
People do seem to judge things only by how it directly affects them, not unlike 1%ers.	Hoyt	Wednesday	#418
Oh, you are so wrong!	Raven	Tuesday	#321
Actually, Will blew it. I know why he's panicking but he's been given false information	pnwmom	Tuesday	#331
Too many complex variables and deceptions to actually make sense.	JEB	Tuesday	#345
Actually the OP didn't say coverage was denied, but the opposite, that coverage was given	DebJ	Wednesday	#417
The OP didn't say that. But this later post of his is incorrect:	pnwmom	Wednesday	#426
?	phleshdef	Tuesday	#336
Raven is Will's mom and therefore has more insight into her daughter in law's situation than you do.	JVS	Tuesday	#367
There are plenty of folks out there with MS who are getting their medications covered.	phleshdef	Tuesday	#397
Great news, links please! nt	Logical	Tuesday	#404
The difference is that his friend the insurance agent gave him false information	pnwmom	Wednesday	#431
Understandably disturbed yes. But the rhetoric wasn't really justifiable.	phleshdef	Wednesday	#452
No, but M.S. is a really scary disease. I hope Will doesn't give up and gets this solved now. n/t	pnwmom	Wednesday	#454
Yes, she is. But apparently they've both been given false information by their friend the insurance	pnwmom	Wednesday	#428
Good posts throughout these series of threads...	SidDithers	Thursday	#699
No--it is Will's friend who is wrong. Pwnmom has detailed how Will was given the wrong	msanthrope	Wednesday	#572
Ahhh, how adorable! nt	Logical	Tuesday	#402
Any "reform" that left the insurance companies in the loop was a loser from the get-go.	alarimer	Tuesday	#339
Disaster capitalism is not much fun	JEB	Tuesday	#354
This message was self-deleted by its author	krawhitham	Tuesday	#355
Would you be better off without the ACA? nt	killbotfactory	Tuesday	#388
Wow. So many posters seem more concerned	JEB	Tuesday	#406
Some perfunctory words of sympathy for Will Pitt's wife and then the usual PR from the usual people.	pa28	Wednesday	#413
Along with some perfunctory words of	Bobbie Jo	Wednesday	#507
+1	jsr	Wednesday	#433
Hall of fame bullshit artist. Yes indeed. Obama is just that.	pa28	Tuesday	#408
Ok buddy time out	minivan2	Wednesday	#412
I appreciate your telling the truth,	woo me with science	Wednesday	#415
I don't know what's funnier	Cali_Democrat	Wednesday	#470
Exhibit A	woo me with science	Wednesday	#536
My my my.. looky here.. at these ODSers.. using	Cha	Wednesday	#416
That's ugly, Cha.	Lars39	Wednesday	#421
Yes, the OP is an Ugly Piece of Hate.. and my pointing it out	Cha	Wednesday	#422
Empathy should be learned early.	Lars39	Wednesday	#424
"Fuck you, Mr. President, you piece of shit used-car salesman. From my heart and soul, fuck you."	Cha	Wednesday	#427
Can you not even understand that his wife's health is at stake?	Lars39	Wednesday	#429
This post said it best..	Cha	Wednesday	#442
You are getting feedback that you don't like.	Lars39	Wednesday	#457
I'm getting a lot of Great Feedback.. thank you!	Cha	Wednesday	#461
Have you actually USED your insurance yet?	Aerows	Wednesday	#643
he's the Magic Man	rudolph the red	Wednesday	#425
Yeah, the OP got a pass but a post in the thread got a Hide.	Cha	Wednesday	#430
he is probably upset he can't profit off a disaster presidency like during Bush's days	JI7	Wednesday	#438
I do have "empathy" for his wife.. but, that does not excuse a raging	Cha	Wednesday	#448
if the ugly was for the first time then I could pass on it	Whisp	Wednesday	#450
Unfortunately yes.. but, this one was so ignorantly over the top ..	Cha	Wednesday	#451
I find it ironic that all his hate & anger is focused towards	giftedgirl77	Wednesday	#518
A lot of ugly posts and lack of empathy in this thread.	Vashta Nerada	Wednesday	#434
For once we agree completely	AnalystInParadise	Wednesday	#653
WilliamPitt, as I understand it you live in MA, so direct your outrage to Gov. Romney.	ucrdem	Wednesday	#436
according to other posts he lives in New Hampshire now	JI7	Wednesday	#440
they said "it'll be fixed, don't worry": now they're telling us to not even acknowledge	MisterP	Wednesday	#441
I can't afford what the government	ohheckyeah	Wednesday	#447
Live in a Red state I presume???	VanillaRhapsody	Wednesday	#453
Purple....	ohheckyeah	Wednesday	#593
What initiative did you take?	Drunken Irishman	Wednesday	#460
Hours on hold only to talk with some underling with canned answers while a loved on is ill	JEB	Wednesday	#463
There are multiple avenues one can take...	Drunken Irishman	Wednesday	#464
Here in Oregon, it is not that easy.	JEB	Wednesday	#468
Lots of bugs, but this isn't one of 'em...	Drunken Irishman	Wednesday	#471
No, I think he wants his very ill wife	JEB	Wednesday	#542
Unfortunately, some drugs cost tens of thousands of dollars a year.	pnwmom	Wednesday	#490
As someone who peddles the ACA daily	Puzzledtraveller	Wednesday	#466
Why didn't you explain to him that his agent-friend gave him the wrong information	pnwmom	Wednesday	#487
Yeah, you need to explain that.. are not people getting good benefits? You make it sound	Cha	Wednesday	#494
Will, here's my suggestion	Glitterati	Wednesday	#500
You know Will,	SomethingFishy	Wednesday	#511
I am SO sick and tired of the apologists	Le Taz Hot	Wednesday	#519
Why?	ProSense	Wednesday	#520
Because I'm "stupid and I don't understand the ACA."	Le Taz Hot	Wednesday	#521
Your words. n/t	ProSense	Wednesday	#522
This was nothing more than a great big wet kiss to the health insurance companies...	truebrit71	Wednesday	#584
Mr. Pitt, I am truly sorry about your situation....	NCTraveler	Wednesday	#524
This message was hidden by jury decision.	joshcryer	Wednesday	#528
This message was self-deleted by its author	Hissyspit	Wednesday	#547
Pure bullshit character assassination post.	Hissyspit	Wednesday	#549
Eh, I'm just glad I'm not on his ignore.	joshcryer	Wednesday	#552
That's over the line.	ScreamingMeemie	Wednesday	#563
Ugly post.	Vashta Nerada	Wednesday	#568
Wow. nt	TBF	Wednesday	#570
Troubling.	fleabiscuit	Wednesday	#534
try cannabinoids, even Nat. Cancer Inst. admits they work in multitude of med conditions	wordpix	Wednesday	#545
Goodness Will. You have caused an angst filled shit storm of epic proportions.	Autumn	Wednesday	#556
this joint	rtracey	Wednesday	#560
Your pain and frustration is understandable.	LexVegas	Wednesday	#562
This is a very long thread.	AngryAmish	Wednesday	#566
What could be worse than the ACA?	ramapo	Wednesday	#567
Sorry Will. We'll keep working toward single payer or better.	grahamhgreen	Wednesday	#573
Is this one of those Will Pitt rants that will be completely retracted in two days?	theboss	Wednesday	#574
I doubt it. This thread should have never been allowed because of the disgraceful names the	lostincalifornia	Yesterday	#701
It's sad but I have to agree with you Will.	unionguy	Wednesday	#589
the drug corps price gouge in the USA on long term treatment, all meds. Same thing with aids meds.	Sunlei	Wednesday	#594
Always check the formulary.	Ms. Toad	Wednesday	#597
Have YOU tried to purchase insurance on the HealthCare.Gov website?	bvar22	Wednesday	#627
People with chronic conditions know what "check the formulary" means	REP	Wednesday	#629
Of the 5 Million or so MANDATED New "Customers" that have signed up...	bvar22	Wednesday	#645
Call the company.	Ms. Toad	Wednesday	#631
You basically just said "Let them eat cake". (Updated)	Zorra	Wednesday	#651
Let me assure you that the cake is considerably tastier and more nourshing	Ms. Toad	Wednesday	#655
You missed my point. I believe the ACA is beneficial to many, including myself.	Zorra	Thursday	#679
But this thread is a rant	Ms. Toad	Thursday	#681
I'm very sorry for your many years of having to work the system when dealing with for profit	Zorra	Thursday	#692
Why YES I have, and I was able to find the The Formulary list for all 5 companies on the exchange	krawhitham	Thursday	#688
Could you please post a link to the page with the formularies, if	Zorra	Thursday	#695
The crowning achievement of our fearless leader.	chompers	Wednesday	#599
PRIVATE insurance LOVES finding loopholes.	pansypoo53219	Wednesday	#600
I'm so sorry Will	Catherina	Wednesday	#611
Now where have we seen this kind of language before:	Whisp	Wednesday	#612
I feel sorry for Pitt having to resort to this kind of hate at the wrong person.. "anger"	Cha	Wednesday	#630
Just sad. A total self-involvement tailspin.	gulliver	Wednesday	#634
William, I know how that's like	LittleBlue	Wednesday	#647
It is a rotten disease.	truedelphi	Wednesday	#662
I don't know why Freeper trash like this is tolerated.	tritsofme	Wednesday	#650
Wait a minute. so the Insurance company YOU picked	jazzimov	Wednesday	#668
This message was hidden by jury decision.	Riftaxe	Thursday	#671
Let's skip over the fact that in NH more then half the hospitals	Riftaxe	Thursday	#670
Still feeling that way, Will?	MineralMan	Thursday	#689
Why? The Drug Company solved the issue, not the insurance company. nt	Logical	Thursday	#693
And either way, President Obama had nothing to do with it	MineralMan	Thursday	#694
overhauling the healthcare/insurance system	questionseverything	Yesterday	#704
This message was hidden by jury decision.	Name removed	Thursday	#690
Momentarily	Cirque du So-What	Thursday	#691
I'm glad your wife will be getting her meds afterall	itsrobert	Thursday	#698
it is amazing this has over 100 recommends	crimeariver1225	Thursday	#700
Calling the President a piece of shit used-car salesman very much should be allowed.	donheld	Yesterday	#703
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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Mar 18, 2014, 04:24 PM

truebrit71 (17,843 posts)

1. Hall-of-Fame Bullshit artist...

....you nailed it the first time 'round...

What I've learned about the Affordable Care Act

1. Hall-of-Fame Bullshit artist...

3. I long for a time machine.

11. My wife is a breast cancer survivor...

546. I'm a cancer patient---without ACA I would have NO insurance

550. I hope your recovery is 100% successful...

554. Wm Pitt---pls. inform your Congressional rep about this

565. Sounds like good advice, hopefully that may help Will's wife.

23. My copay (medicare part d) for my MS med is 1650 a month

204. For which medication? Just curious.

220. Aubagio. I was in the experimental trial for several years and then the FDA approved it

222. I looked up Aubagio to help out Pitt

358. But I think she is saying she could afford it for a while,

538. But how much does it actually "cost" to make the drug?

541. excellent point nt

579. While drugs are too high, it's not like you do a google search and make it in the kitchen.

654. Sorry but I don't buy all that shit

658. Then, why don't a couple of unemployed PhDs down the street make them and sell at half the price.

659. They would be arrested.

660. but you can get a generic in Canada for about 3 bucks.

661. So, it is more difficult than you suggest. Like I said,

389. Medicare part d was the prelude to heritage care

656. Definitely better before 2006- no drug coverage, elderly doing without, cutting pills in thirds, etc

548. cannabinoids show promise for MS

172. I knew we were screwed

392. but it's all Lieberman's fault

590. The National Health system in the UK has a formulary.

591. On the NHS if you need meds, you get meds.

592. You get meds if they're listed as available on the formulary.

595. I have two elderly parents that use the NHS all the time.

596. That's because the doctors are choosing medicines off the formulary.

608. Exactly

609. I've been told otherwise by more than one Brit.

682. Only if it's been approved by NICE

2. Anger IS a gift, my dear Will, and one you use most effectively.

207. "fuck you mr president you piece of shit used car salesman" is an "excellent rant"?

208. And if I did?

235. If you did, it makes me sad to see 2 long term duers like you and he think that is ok

238. I regret that you're sad. But I do stand with Will on this topic. n/t

240. I wish we'd gotten single payer, but can not understand calling him that. Or putting all the blame

283. Miserable fucking crap shoot dealing with Insurance vultures.

301. NH does not offer many options for insurance

369. Look. Obama was so pathetic on this issue that even Jon Stewart called him out.

370. So you agree President Obama is a "piece of shit used-car salesman" deserving "fuck you" on DU?

379. Thoe were not my words,

382. My apologies, I edited to remove the unneeded snark. Yes, there are a hell of a lot of problems,

559. because greater of two evils

503. They should have pushed for single payer with all their might.

517. No, the insurance companies are not legalized gambling, they're mass murderers for profit.

532. Sorry for your situation and sorry that you feel that way about the President. But the blame goes

569. Hi, did you mean to reply to Will?

476. Pitt has done that before

479. "Too subtle for Pitt.." that's about it. Went right over his head which was

480. nothing was missed, Pitt is just playing to a certain crowd looking to be popular

481. Guess it's the Obama haters. nt

498. Yep and yep!

613. Damn him for "playing" at having a real life problem.

616. He'd be okay

455. It's an "excellent rant" to those who don't care that his rage is misplaced.. it would be a

525. THIS

564. A-fucking-men! Well said!

582. it was a great post.

585. The apologists can't handle the truth I guess...

615. This

618. I too was amazed that it was hidden...

635. Thank You, sobenji!

638. Oh My, that post that was hidden addressed to you,

4. No. How could those bastards do that?

8. Heh.

10. Those mother fuckers covered all the bases didn't they.

53. I'm pretty sure that is not true.

96. Excellent advice.

649. It's super advice but, dammit,

115. ''with a polite but insistent appeal that this drug be covered.''

127. " not once have I ever failed to eventually get coverage "

132. I meant the polite part ain't gonna happen.

143. Oh, I see. Yeah, probably.

170. Ranting on the DU about how awful Obama is won't change anything

174. It's not like Obama is happy

279. Some think he is. They truly believe it makes him happy that people suffer

92. You are not required to stay in a grandfathered plan.