i was reading some comments here and i'm so confused why some people need cockpit view ! and seriously why you need that if you are a real racer. its just for fun. i can't wait for this game :)
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Nah you're alright. I loved the first, but I'm not sure about this.... I long for when I can play another Project Gotham.
I am not impressed at all. Also since there is no cockpit view, I know I will not be buying it. I was looking forward to grid 2. However, after hearing the details and now watching this video, I am very disappointed.
When Grid2 was first announced I was super excited! Now, the more I see the less interested I seem to get...
Problem I find with racing sims is basicly the vast amount of different cars. Once you master one cars attributes you then get in another car which drives totally different and that learning curve comes straight back. If your not a hardcore racing sim player then it can be a bitter experience and it's hard to take enjoyment from basicly being bad on a game. lol
Saying that I do still challenge myself on racing sims but will put my hands up and say I am not the best on them.
Grid 2 doesn't look bad at all, but where's the cockpit view - all racing simulation games need this camera view.
@AdrianJNYC In a previous video they mentioned that they decided to not put it in the game because in their statistics, nobody runs with that camera, just put it for a little moment and then change it, people prefer to race with other views, front camera view or full car camera view... so they decided to not put it
This game will be awful. GRID 1 had wheel lag and rubber banding. Arcade bollocks. Not much hope of Grid2 being any better.
The thing that really bothers me about the grid games is that all the cars look like fast and furious overly done up shopping cart spolier looking crap. If the cars all came with stock exteriors and their was a option to upgrade that would be so much better.
@marcheegsr Yea, I agree, I don't like almost every car having a spoiler on the back or whatever those things are called either. lol
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I don't think I will be at a loss by saving my money. It sounds like you are looking forward to it.
Percuvius2 and Rayrota have the most epic Gamespot forum argument of all time. My personal input however says a cockpit view in racing games today should be mandatory. Even NFS games these days have it as an option. Game devs need to try and appeal to all audiences, specifically those that bought their first game and enjoyed the cockpit aspect of it. Why would you take away a nice feature from a product when that feature wasn't broken to begin with?
@Nightrunner0007 They've explained at great length why cockpit view was removed. And FWIW, the latest NFS game doesn't have cockpit view as an option at all.
@GallusNumpty I didn't say the latest NFS game had it, I said "some NFS games these days have it" so why not add it as an option on all racing games? I heard why they removed it, but imho, I feel they removed it because they didn't want to waste time, money, or code on something that they felt was insignificant....which is fine depending on who you are trying to market your game to. I understand where those that could care less are coming from, as most of the time I find myself driving in the bonnet/hood view which is standard for all racing games these days. My only argument here is regardless of the excuse, why remove something that many of your fans liked in the first game? Maybe you weren't one of them, but a few of my friends that played GRID with me preferred cockpit view, and they did extremely well with it. There are a few people below in this forum who also feel it will be missed and will probably be the sole reason that they will not pick this game up. The devs here are hurting their sales simply because they didn't want to invest the time into creating a cockpit view for those who wanted it.
@Nightrunner0007 More like an annoying as hell troll that won't stfu about one lacking feature that in the end is used sparsely in console racing games. It's about dollar signs in AAA titles, not wasting time on pointless shit that doesn't get used but by the 5%.
@ozdarkhorse Also, I respect your 5 % estimate...but I beg to differ for those who love racing games. I have many friends who share the opinion of the wonderful benefits of the cockpit view...perhaps you don't care either way, but most people that I have spoke to in person would prefer it in a racing game as an option. I know when I'm sitting really close to any one of my LCD's in the home, I like the experience to feel as real as possible. After all, when 95 % of us ever going to get a chance to drive our dream cars that cost a ridiculous amount of money? I'll settle for any kind of simulation any day...
@GallusNumpty To each is own man, I personally like having the option in racing games. I actually do better in cockpit view when I'm sitting really close to a decent size television (40" or higher) but if I am sitting far away, I prefer bonnet/hood. As I said, its not a preference for people, but it's a nice feature for those who want it.
@Nightrunner0007 @ozdarkhorse If you want realism, cockpit view is the last thing you want -- bonnet/hood view is far more comparable to actually driving a car. When you're really driving, you never notice the cockpit, it certainly doesn't take up half your field of view, and window pillars don't obscure your view of corners etc.
@ozdarkhorse @Nightrunner0007 Okay..I failed to mention I was being a little sarcastic in the beginning of my comment...I forget that reading something doesn't illustrate such a thing sometimes...but that doesn't change my mind about truly wanting that cockpit view in all racing games...
It's not pointless though, lol, that's the thing. 5% of 1 million is how many? 50,000. That's a lot of upset people. I don't deny the obvious trolls on this page for cockpit view, but come on... lets be fair here.
3 Like @Nightrunner0007You say epic, I say full of shit.
Anyways, I don't like the idea that "game devs need to try and appeal to all audiences." I think that sort of thinking waters games, and anything else, down. But, yeah, I can't think of the last racing game I saw with no cockpit view.
I suppose when I say game devs should appeal, I mean it in a way where options should be required. When I say appeal to all audiences, I'm not referring to simplifying per se, however, I am trying to say have different game modes for different people when you are a game that isn't sure what it wants to be. This game, based on the video I watched above, does not know if it wants to be simulation or arcade and that to me means that it should present flexibility in it's play style. Obviously this does not apply to all games, but in this particular genre...I personally think it is suitable....
1 Like Looks generic.
I don't get the love for cockpit view. I try it for about 15 seconds everytime I play a racing game and turn it off. It makes me feel like a horse wearing blinders. But, you people who like it really seem to love it.
@CincoToes I like cockpit view because it just makes me feel like I'm in the car. It's another sense of realism that can be expressed in a racing game. Not to mention that it gives you variety. Hoods can only look so different, and of course racing beyond hood view you see nothing. However, their is a distinct difference between the Cockpit of a Toyota Supra, and a F1 Mclaren. I like to see that difference.
Don't get me wrong, if I was a Grid fan I wouldn't be swayed from purchasing this game because of a lack of cockpit view, but it is disappointing. I'm just not a fan of Grid, and the racing in this video looks like garbage.
@VeeArSick Mmm. I guess my thing is it doesn't make me feel like I'm in a car. I can't see out the driver's window, much less the passenger window or seat. The thing about the floaty view is I can see what I'm supposed to be able to see.
That's one of the off brand things I want and know I wont get from the next gen; peripheral vision. I want to play racing games in the cockpit and have it feel normal. I want to play an FPS and not kill or get killed by someone running beside me because we couldn't initially see each other. But hey, maybe by PS10/Xbox36,000.
@CincoToes @VeeArSick I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then. I find all other views much further from realism than Cockpit view for obvious reasons. Third person, are you driving an RC car? Hood view, hmm. Never been in a car I can see down the hood like that. Oh well, too each there own. You enjoy your way, I'll enjoy my way. Both unrealistic according to each other.
Oh alright. Well I'll diss my 95 Eclipse. The car was slow, the turbo lag was horrendous, it felt heavy, and the car was uncomfortable and unpleasant to drive all around. Not to mention the reliability was terrible. I can't speak on behalf of CRX's and Supra's, my friend has a CRX but he insists on just keeping it clean because he knows it's not a fast car, but he loves Honda and loves the CRX. It seems reliable, so, again, to each their own.
@VeeArSick Well if you feel like flicking the left stick while you turn in cockpit mode feels more like real driving to you, have fun with that. I'm glad it feels unrealistic to me, I like seeing.
I wasn't dissing your cars, the Filipinos at my school swore up and down about Eclipses, CRXs and Supras. Personally, I have Dom P tastes and a Colt 45 budget. :/
...back on SUBJECT. You do have peripherals, but they're limited. They're more prominent if you have a multi-screen display. Then the quick glance argument comes into play, because that's essentially what it is... a quick glance. However, IRL you do have to turn your head and turning your head takes about as much time as flicking that analog stick. I've never driven around on the road, or on a track where I didn't have to turn my head for corners. None.
Of course it won't be 100% realistic, and it never will be. But it's a very real element I've come to expect and cherish in current racing titles. Gran Turismo for example, again, I use Cockpit view when I can.
@CincoToes @VeeArSick What? I don't own the '95 GSX anymore it was the worst car I've ever owned. I love my VR Jetta though, and the only people who diss those cars are people who've never driven them.
GIAC Chip, 268 cams, UD Pulleys AC included, 2.5" Borla Exhaust, AEM Custom Air Intake, Polished Head, I'll admit it's not the fastest car but I like it.
@VeeArSickThe only racer I've gone back to regularly over the past few years is GranTurismo. I've liked Forza, NFS, Sega Rally... pretty much everything, but haven't really been feeling them recently.
"The only thing you lack is your peripheral's, but that's a First Person issue, not a Cockpit issue." What's the difference between first person and cockpit? Not having peripherals is the real difference, since having them means you don't really need to turn your head irl, you can just quickly glance even in a turn. That never works well, for me at least, in a game.
Nice rice rocket you got there, btw. Dudes in my high school would've let you go balls deep if you said you had the chip and exhaust.
@CincoToes @VeeArSick What games specifically do you play? I play Forza, and I'll admit a few cars you have very limited view. But a lot of cars, for example the C5 Corvette, you have a wide view in Cockpit mode. The only thing you lack is your peripheral's, but that's a First Person issue, not a Cockpit issue.
...and if you think about it, it doesn't take away from the realism. For example, my VR6 Jetta has a much wider view in the drivers seat than my '95 Eclipse GSX. Not to mention your side windows are useless unless you turn your head which you can replicate by moving the analog side to side.
@percuvius2 I doubt a different view will save this unrealistic racer. The last good CM racing game was Colin McRae. 2004/5
1 Like Graphics look so shit on consoles now, after Project Cars I just cannot go back to these console based games. The next gen cannot come soon enough, hopefully then all the other developers will catch up.
1 Like i am not a fan of grid, but if you are here to rant about PC superiority than i suggest you take your ranting somewhere. and by the way the looks great just not my type of racing game.
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