Posted at 16:22 on 1st May
After a bit of a hiatus there's some huge news for you.
WE ARE DOWN TO THE FINAL FIFTY LAYERS
Word to the wise: you need to update Curiosity on the App Store / Google Play in order to reach the final fifty layers.
22 Cans has confirmed the news via a video sent to CVG, and the studio has also offered us the chance to interview its co-founder Peter Molyneux, which you can read below the video.
Stuck in the middle with you
An interview with Peter Molyneux
by Rob Crossley
CVG: Today marks the countdown to the final 50 layers remaining on Curiosity. Did you always have a plan for how many layers there were going to be in the end?
MOLYNEUX: Well yes and no. No, in as much as, we thought to ourselves that if Curiosity went on for about six months then people would just get bored with it, and we really wanted the world to get to the middle, because what's in the middle is something that's truly exciting and life changing.
If this just carries on for another year, then people are just going to lose interest and - justifiably - would turn to us and say "you cheating bastards there's no middle is there!"
But we never believed we would be where we are now which is past 270 layers now. We're talking about 25 billion cubes destroyed so far. That is a vast number. If one person had to do that it would take them 806 years to do it. There's been about five million different users involved in the experiment, with about 100 million cublets destroyed per day.
"We've learnt that people like relaxing games. You don't have to pump adrenaline through gamers 24 hours per day"So, just to clarify, when Curiosity started was there an overall target for how many layers it would take to get to the middle?
Well this is part of the experiment. We gave people something unimaginably difficult to get through and then saw how it went. At the time, the team were each betting on how many layers people would get through [before applying the Final 50 update]; some said five layers and others said five hundred.
What is astounding is how quickly things moved at first. We thought things would ramp up slowly over the months. If you look at how quickly mobile games usually progress in terms of interest, usually they start out slow in the first three months.
It just goes to show that when you have something different and intriguing, then that is pretty exciting.
Well, we've got the Godus project on the go right now, and we always knew we would be working on reinventing the god game genre. We have taken specific things from Curiosity and have added that into Godus, like giving people the chance to interact together. We've also learnt that people like relaxing games. You don't have to pump adrenaline through gamers 24 hours per day.
We also learnt a lot about what to do right with servers, and what to do wrong. I think EA fell into exactly the same trap as we did with server issues, when they released SimCity. There was a lot of learning from us on that side of things, about what to get right and what not to get right.
But what really took us by surprise is how much users like to express themselves. There were tonnes of images on Curiosity - maybe some of them you wouldn't want to see (laughs) - but a lot of it absolutely charming.
" I was also amazed by a group of Italians who set out to turn all the penis drawings into palm trees."I remember one person went on there and sketched the Twin Towers. Then someone else drew a plane crashing into them. And then someone changed all that into a big peace sign. I mean, all of these live commentaries are fascinating.
If you limit people's ability to communicate, then they find other ways. We've been astounded by that. I was also amazed by a group of Italians who set out to turn all the penis drawings into palm trees.
So, I've got to ask: Can you give us any clues about what's inside the cube? You said it was life-changing, but how?
There are only three people in the world that know what's in the cube. Myself, the sound engineer who recorded the sounds of the final video and one other person.
The answer to what's inside the cube is as interesting as the journey to the centre. What's in there is as experimental and thought-provoking as the whole game. It is definitely life-changing, by any measure, and it's only possible into today's world.
When did you get the idea about what's inside the cube?
The idea came before the execution. My idea was; if you have something so valuable, something that's only for one single individual, how do you give that away in a manner that's intriguing?
"I'm definitely not saying no to developing on next-gen consoles"Finally, there's a lot of excitement in the air about next gen systems, with the PS4 and Next Xbox launching this year. Are you considering developing for those consoles, or would you rather stick to mobiles, tablets and PC?
I think the really interesting thing about the consoles is how they're moving towards the PC and mobile models. And there are suddenly community-based ideas like the Share button on the PS4 and the Wii U's Miiverse community. And of course, I'm excited as anyone else about the next Xbox.
So, I'm definitely not saying no to developing on next-gen consoles. What I will say is that, these days there is an insane number of devices to develop for. We used to have PlayStation, Xbox, and a Nintendo console if you were feeling brave. We didn't even really have PC. Today there's lots of devices that are successful.
Comments
107 comments so far...
martinawatson on 6 Nov '12 said:
Canada is gay
richomack360 on 6 Nov '12 said:
Jean Luc Picard is inside doing lots of hammy acting
Bambis Dad on 6 Nov '12 said:
I thought that was against the new rules.
martinawatson on 6 Nov '12 said:
No Canada can be gay if it wants to be, we're all quite liberal here
Agamon on 6 Nov '12 said:
well i found a way to be a jerk..... clear a whole screen and leave 1 cell. should a f**ker to find them
The facebook icon is in the way all the time and logs you out if you hit it, otherwise i'm addicted
Bambis Dad on 6 Nov '12 said:
But being gay is excluding one gender and against the rules that we must be fully inclusive and not discriminate. Canada has to be bi or it will get a strike off IZO, ooh errr missus.
martinawatson on 6 Nov '12 said:
I feel all confused now.......err not like that......Not that theres anything wrong with it
beemoh on 6 Nov '12 said:
All the boxes underneath are different shades of green? A $50,000 chisel says it's a Creeper, and just one big viral stunt for Minecraft.
eltonbird on 6 Nov '12 said:
It keeps crashing for me. Can barely get in, and when it does, it' crashes shortly after!
zombiesinmyhead on 6 Nov '12 said:
Keep an eye out for my upcoming social experiment app, Curiosity, whats up my arse?
Its an exact, intricate, virtual replica of my arse! DLC will include latex gloves, lube (for comfort), and a £500,000 torch, so you can see deep into my dark arse passage and satisfy your curiosity as to whats up my arse!
No refunds. Contents of my arse may disappoint.
HelloLadies on 6 Nov '12 said:
I wonder what Zynga is going to call their version of Curiosity.
Skullet on 6 Nov '12 said:
App keeps crashing and resetting me back to 0 coins, judging by the quality of the app and who created it the prize inside the cube is likely to be a lifetime supply of Peter Molyneux promises and an equal supply of disappointment.
Sangor on 6 Nov '12 said:
For some reason while I was reading this I kept hearing Mrs Doyle saying ya big hairy arse.
ianson on 6 Nov '12 said:
It is a job at 22 cans
alan666 on 6 Nov '12 said:
What is this rubbish ?
gypsygib on 7 Nov '12 said:
I found it to be a horrible game. Unless I'm missing something, you simply tap the screen to eliminates mini green cubes from the larger green cube. Each destroyed mini-cube makes a musical sound which can be stringed tother is so desired; however, each sound is randomly generated so creating a harmony tends to be a fluke. Moreover, the game isn't really about making music anyway, it about breaking cubes by tapping them. Am I missing something? If not I'll wait and let the people who enjoy it do the hard work and test my luck discovering whats inside closer to its completion.
getup2k on 7 Nov '12 said:
my prediction - some s**t
skintrade on 7 Nov '12 said:
nice idea, shame it's unstable for connections and the FB link is about as useable as a chocolate teapot - leads to the conclusion that the video at the centre is just a thank you for putting up with the constant issues.
nologo on 7 Nov '12 said:
i'm on iphone 5.. seems ok. yesterday a few issues. but today its fine. regarding the facebook link.. i logged in via facebook.. icon doesnt appear
AvatarIII on 7 Nov '12 said:
I have a theory that all the issues that we are getting with curiosity are because curiosity in itself is an app designed to teach 22cans how to not have the same issues with later "experiments" and the final game.
Everything in the app works for me, after a few attempts and a bit of patience, the only thing that bugs me is when clearing a screen trying to get the block under the menu button is a nightmare, I have to try and break that space first and position it under the menu button.
I can see myself getting bored pretty quickly, I haven't even earned enough for the iron chisel yet, and find it hard to believe that using the iron chisel for only 4 minutes or whatever will be-able to recoup the cost of buying it.
Tingles dingle on 7 Nov '12 said:
Find this quite addictive, but I can't get more than 40K as it keeps crashing and then resetting my score and oh that f*#!ing facebook icon!!!!!
cowmedo on 7 Nov '12 said:
This game (is it a game? I don't want to call it an experiment) is bizarrely compelling, but it's ruined by the facebook button.
Having accumulated a nice 20 x multiplier, I'm happily chipping away on quite the hot streak, and all of a sudden I get the dreaded white screen 'o' death having accidentally pressed the FB button! I lose my coins and multiplier and it soo annoying!
It's completely avoidable too - either make the FB button an option on the menu bit or simply make the lag between the FB button being active and inactive longer than a microsecond - there is not one person on the planet who will so want to login to FB that they'll lose patience at having to wait 3 seconds. However, there are loads of people who'll accidentally press that button as they're frantically trying to keep their chain going. Sort it out Molyneux!
beastie on 7 Nov '12 said:
It does seem to be the most simple game of Minecraft you can get
poot_evans on 8 Nov '12 said:
Getting annoyed....
*I had nearly 90,000 coins last night. Tonight I have just 50,000.
*My best chain was 118970 but none of those coins made it into my account. I was still on 48,000 or summink. So I have a high score bigger than the most amount of coins I've ever had and twice as big as my current amount.
*Not all the data is loading, I can see more data from far out than when I zoom in to join in.
I am intrigued by the experiment, but the buggyness is not giving me any pay off. Seriously - the rewards are hardly worth it as it is, but bugging out and making me lose my sense of achievement or ability to properly explore is seriously stupid!
I'm gonna start participating less and watch from afar. But if everyone does that, I'll be amazed if level 2 is finished, let alone any further levels. Another Molineux disappointment - don't know why I'm surprised.
illage2 on 8 Nov '12 said:
I bet the cube has nothing in it.
If you're told there was something amazing inside a box that you didn't know was empty you'll still try to open it.
BazJitsu on 8 Nov '12 said:
I'm curious as to when this game will work for me. Three times I've had to delete the app now.
HelloLadies on 8 Nov '12 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ2tqah0 ... ure=fvwrel
illage2 on 8 Nov '12 said:
Yeah I'm having issues playing it. Won't let me join and it crashes when I try to login with facebook.
TheLastDodo on 8 Nov '12 said:
I think that's the point, it's been openly regarded as a "social experiment".
Prepare yourselves for a letdown when you reach the centre guys.
Getting a giggle reading about Facebook getting in the way of the "game", a brave man would suggest that's Molyneaux's way of showing folks the current and future state of gaming
FishyGinger on 8 Nov '12 said:
The winner will chisel through and it will be a video on loop of Brad Pitt asking what's in the box.
Tingles dingle on 8 Nov '12 said:
I must just be rubbish at this game. No matter how many times I touch the screen I can never gain the prize of connecting to the bloody server!
scooby359 on 9 Nov '12 said:
Meh, experiment over..
Fed up of not being able to connect, of losing coins every time I do, of the shop being a waste of time as I can't build up any coins, of trying to do a lil picture on the cube ("make your mark" they said!) and suddenly massive chunks of the screen vanishing, of hitting that stupid Facebook button when I don't even use Facebook, of knowing the app's clearly been built for iOS but then shabbily ported to Android..
Great idea but really poor implementation
SpangoNuts on 9 Nov '12 said:
Pretty much what scooby359 said goes for me also
The Fold on 9 Nov '12 said:
I was tapping away on that long strip that was left whilst on my morning commute. There was still loads left when I had to stop though.
EvilWaterman on 9 Nov '12 said:
Welcome Back!
Joining.....
Cannot connect to server
oh
sh4dow83 on 9 Nov '12 said:
Whenever I think I have grasped the full scope of human stupidity, I am surprised yet again.
I am convinced that I will live to see this happen.
Cube Leader on 10 Nov '12 said:
Here's the guy (me) that has the 1.9 million high score and video to prove it - http://youtu.be/fUwrLwNTllw
HelloLadies on 10 Nov '12 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhZTNUzAMjA
poot_evans on 10 Nov '12 said:
Any ideas on the pic on level 3 yet?? I've been googling images on tapas and tapestrys. Nothing looks like the pics. Still not refreshing properly either so joining in is still a little pointless.
stealth on 10 Nov '12 said:
this is peter for the last 10 yearsm he cant do a single decent thing in this industry
lawless1891 on 10 Nov '12 said:
So do you pay to play this digital version of pass the parcel ?
Thrilling.
Bendanarama on 10 Nov '12 said:
I'm sorry, I must have missed your stunning contributions to videogames.
And to spelling.
Anyway, thus far this is actually quite... enthralling. The new pictures that are being revealed definitely seem to be some kind of clue to what's coming next.
Nimron Tang on 10 Nov '12 said:
Has anyone considered that this might be the most audacious rick-roll ever attempted?
Stryker89 on 10 Nov '12 said:
Seriously dude, just shut the f*** up.
McShave 07 on 11 Nov '12 said:
Na, that is it, I've given up on Curiosity. I'd seen on CVG that the cube had changed to the next level and was now a burgundy colour. But when I logged on it was still the same sickly green from the day before.
O.K, I thought.....All the faces seemed to be empty, so I though I'd write the biggest message I could be bothered to. It said "Fu*k you Peter Molyneux". Now you can call me childish, but I felt I needed to get my point across.
Anyways....halfway through the cube updates to the Burgundy colour, I knew it was supposed to be, then BANG....all of a sudden it updates and everything I've written (and believe me it was rather large) was obliterated.
It made me realize that what ever you've tapped away, has probably been done before, only the server hasn't updated your s**tty client yet.
Damm you Curiosity, I spent an hour on writing that Peter Molyneux abuse.......thats it.....I'm out.
karkify on 11 Nov '12 said:
To think this is fueled by peoples greed and want for fame. Why else would people spend so much time tapping away? A part of me hopes the final video is just Mr. Molyneux standing bare naked, pointing to his dong with one hand, and giving the middle finger with the other with a text box that reads "SUCK THIS, SUCKER".
poot_evans on 11 Nov '12 said:
I have an iPhone and can see 5 sides of pics and one dull brown one appearing. The refresh is rubbish. I zoom in and the blocks appear and disappear like rubbish pop up buildings from gta3 (I love gta but the pop up was rubbish sometimes). I can see from far out something has been written or the cube is mostly tapped away, but zooming in - I find that detail disappear and the block has huge areas to tap.
Each layer of zoom seems to need its own refresh and that takes minutes to do if it even does. Not up to the job I'm afraid. Its Really winding me up. Their servers are not up to it and they need to pause the game whist they make updates.
seanmartin007 on 11 Nov '12 said:
My cube is still nearly all red. It's way behind the images your posting on your blog. On an iPad.
Robcarroll93 on 11 Nov '12 said:
Maybe it's all of the content he promised but didn't deliver in older games...
saecula on 11 Nov '12 said:
Destroying the last cubelet will trigger a device ending the life of a human who consented to this before the experiment started.
Watching the video of his/her death will indeed be life-changing for the person who pressed the button, and world-altering for the other person.
Or something like that. Triggering a nuclear bomb, somewhere. Killing the last dodo, with a time machine. Something nasty.
Every single player before will be responsible, too, in a way. So, Peter may not have been over-promising.
saecula on 11 Nov '12 said:
Did anyone notice the words "remembrance day" and "lest we forget" on the cube?
You will recognize on the sides of the cube the pastel/reddish palette of the Marilyn Manson album cover of this very name: "Lest We Forget".
From the lyrics:
And you’re all alone
Flesh and bone
By the telephone
Lift up the receiver
I’ll make you a believer
...
I will deliver
You know I’m a forgiver
Reach out and touch faith
Reach out and touch faith
Nimron Tang on 12 Nov '12 said:
The original version of this song is called, "Personal Jesus" and it's by a band called Depeche Mode.
Quite a few people have covered it, but Brians (Marilyn Manson) is probably the most well known.
fyckfaco on 12 Nov '12 said:
Does no one care that this is one of the worst/buggiest releases in history? I downloaded the game last thursday, and i have not been able to get in once. I know its a free app but I assume he wants 22 cans reputation to carry through. Im starting to think that all the server rubbish and bug talk is just another social experiement to see what people do when faced with certain problems.
This is making me not want to support 22 cans at all. Zynga/Snake like tactics p**s me off, and once your more open about doing that, people wont give two s**ts about the journey you want to take them on Peter. Test your code before you ship, not ask for money once it goes tits up....
All these experiements are unfair now anyway, he keeps interjecting more opinions/info/hype and tricks through twitter or youtube, which I garuntee hes not taking into account. Hes gonna have a pile of money, unfair results and bad code to use for his "career defining title". I look forward to the day you stop lying...
saecula on 12 Nov '12 said:
Thank you Nimron Tang for pointing this out. Do you think the original version is what the creator of our puzzle had in mind?
Nimron Tang on 12 Nov '12 said:
No worries dude, I have no idea what Mr. Molyneux has put inside the cube. It's not my type of game (I don't play mobile phone games).
I still think (hope?) it will be a video of Rick Astley performing, "Never Gonna Give You Up". My respect for Peter would rise significantly if that was his special suprise for the avid cube-tappers.
Barry316 on 12 Nov '12 said:
Rick Astley doing the gangnam style dance, it's the only reasonable conclusion.
Nimron Tang on 12 Nov '12 said:
I think I could learn to live with that. As long as it has nothing to do with Lady Laga or, "Manypints" as the Native Indians call her.
joeyuk on 12 Nov '12 said:
Interesting, but I'm pretty sure you're over thinking this one - Sunday was actually Remembrance Day - 'Lest we forget' is the 'motto' so to speak to not forget all the service men and women who their lives in WWI and beyond.
Robcarroll93 on 13 Nov '12 said:
Peter Molyneux, what a boob
FixBeatGames on 13 Nov '12 said:
"how can we test something like this, when it requires the whole world?"
erm, with a public beta test?
Malmo on 13 Nov '12 said:
I'm not sure if Mr Molyneux is rich, but I'd imagine he's amassed a decent financial position by now so please, for the love of god, consider an early retirement. He's becoming less popular than a porcupine in a waterbed store.
richomack360 on 14 Nov '12 said:
You do know that the person who has hit the most cubes doesn't mean he will win what's inside....you do know that don't you ?
#lifewasted
a3HeadedMonkey on 14 Nov '12 said:
I have no idea what the f**k this is. And as someone with no clue what I'm looking at, this article does not help. It seems to have ran away with itself, sure in itself that everyone reading it already knows what's going on. Poor journalism, CVG. Now I have to leave this site, in search of another site to try and find out what all this is about. What a complete fail.
EvilWaterman on 15 Nov '12 said:
Its a hippy social experiment
filth87 on 15 Nov '12 said:
This looks like the most boring thing you could ever want to do...
Tim Goumans on 15 Nov '12 said:
Are you guys stil keeping a list of how many cubblets there are per layer?
Xin on 16 Nov '12 said:
dunno if anyone said it yet, but the stained glass is from St. Chapelle: http://www.therosewindow.com/pilot/StCh ... nFrame.htm
Alireza on 17 Nov '12 said:
All this religious imagery on the cube is freaking me out:
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments ... molyneuxs/
skintrade on 19 Nov '12 said:
still looking at this thread even tho the "experiment" lost me when they "fixed" the FB connection and lost me millions of coins i was saving up...
Alireza on 19 Nov '12 said:
It's not 'a plane and some space'. It's an F-22 and the Messier-22 cluster. Get the picture? You could have just looked it up on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curiosity_ ... %3F#Layers
try4life on 20 Nov '12 said:
i taught Peter Molyneux pay pal details were in.so you could make a donation
William Noetling on 22 Nov '12 said:
The latest layer looks like an advertisement for their Godus Kickstarter game. Which granted, looks awesome.
kinobick on 26 Nov '12 said:
Can someone just email me when this is about to end please........
kimoak on 26 Nov '12 said:
It's your mom.
/Juvenile comment over
Thexder on 27 Nov '12 said:
f(n)=n(n+1)(n^2-3n+66)/8 - 12
McShave 07 on 27 Nov '12 said:
When will CVG pull the plug on this blog? Does anyone even care?
LordVonPS3 on 27 Nov '12 said:
Rubbish. Waste of time.
Davidsusskind on 28 Nov '12 said:
The current text on the cube is from the Night Circus by Erin Morgenstern.
Not sure is this is relevant or important but...
Fr33Kye on 29 Nov '12 said:
It kind of worries me that there seems to be a lack of thematic connection between the layers....you'd think the layers related to the studio and future projects would be the first ones to get out of the way right?
ensabahnur on 30 Nov '12 said:
That looks too much like a Lemarchand's puzzle box, i ain't going anywhere near it.
Razzamoly on 1 Dec '12 said:
Wake me up when this is over...
HelloLadies on 1 Dec '12 said:
How many people are still playing this thing? Should round them all up and send them down a mine shaft to chisel for gold. They could get fit and rich at the same time.
Gavin Powell on 5 Dec '12 said:
Is this blog a little futile ?
There are a few million ppl playing this game. And only one person will see whats in the cube? so this blog will not find out whats in the cube.
Theres a good chance that it will never end, from it being way to big, and ppl get bored etc.
And, I tell you, if i was the last person to open said cube. i wouldn't tell anyone, but made sure i recorded it. and sell the secret via ebay auction - or by some other means of everyone playing to chip in 1 dollar - after a few million - i'd release the answer
who ever is last to open the cube. will be very rich. and i think thats what 22cans want. how else is the middle of the cube worth it ?
Panou on 6 Dec '12 said:
1973 layers left, and you're done. I find this demoralizing.
Good luck... =/
Kbiro on 10 Dec '12 said:
@Gavin Powell. There is only one problem with your idea of putting the video link on eBay: the rules of the game are
"However, the video link information should not be traded for any personal monetary gain."
Good luck
Kal
Mmmmgrolsch on 10 Dec '12 said:
Brilliant idea. Personally I think this will never make it to the end as people will get more and more bored and there just won't be enough people willing to waste life chipping away at some s**tty app.
pual mettes on 11 Dec '12 said:
Hi you all,
This is a great gift for the curious among us:
http://www.harsmedia.com/SoundBlog/Archief/00789.php
Hi,
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pual mettes on 12 Dec '12 said:
Hi you all:
This article is a pretty good, serious and a good laugh.
Please share:
http://www.harsmedia.com/SoundBlog/Archief/00789.php#00789co
"Then, finally, there maybe (still) is the intended curiosity: wanting to find out what's inside the Cube."
PM
manky on 12 Dec '12 said:
F@cking morons tapping away at f@cking cube.
Is this what gaming has sadly become.
What the f@ck next?
Padua on 12 Dec '12 said:
Dude - repetitive mindless actions is what gaming has been about for a very long time - don't knock it.
I tried this on the weekend and it is a cool idea but dull as dishwater.
Reminds me of the kid who made a million selling pixel space advertising to companies.
However I agree with what others have said - most are not going to be arsed to see this to completion. Best to just leave it to the obsessive-compulsive until the last layer then everyone ram on and... um down the server again
Simon Carlin on 12 Dec '12 said:
I'll bet with all the money it's racking in old Pete is wanking himself into a froth.
Barca Azul on 12 Dec '12 said:
Sorry, but whats the point of this?
HelloLadies on 13 Dec '12 said:
To get really shredded fingers.
Imaduck on 13 Dec '12 said:
I havn't really invested in this but it's been a total and utter success hilariously. People are curious and continue to be. Mystery is something games need more of these days.
starfox64 on 13 Dec '12 said:
At the start it said, 'Only one will discover what's at the centre'. How come we won't all find out?
Ratt Reimann on 14 Dec '12 said:
Wow, I wasn't sure that you would see my giant 'CVG' on the cube (Well, I kind of assumed you would, based on the size and all). Thanks for featuring it
. Here's a picture of the beginning of the 'C', Looks more like a 'L' at this point.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/54206732/curiosity1.png
Solm on 14 Dec '12 said:
Curiosity - well we all know what curiosity did to the cat. I think it's a brave thing for Peter to try but lets me honest it's not ground breaking, is it?
Ninja Sheep762 on 14 Dec '12 said:
I'm guessing its footsteps on the moon, rather than a beach. Y'know, Curiosity - it put a man on the moon.
Geen91 on 18 Dec '12 said:
Check this site: http://www.creativityonthecuriositycube.com you can win a price just uploading a creative image of the cube!
Zabba 2 on 6 Jan '13 said:
Getting kind of bored of this now.
Has the actual cube been getting smaller as layers have been removed?
Scarlet_Spider on 9 Jan '13 said:
Could go on forever....snore...
pual mettes on 9 Jan '13 said:
We do pay attention! It still is great to be curious.
Barca Azul on 11 Jan '13 said:
Ive downloaded now, reminds me of DT's Decathlon on the Spectrum, but not as fun.
I stopped after 5-10 mins, and not convinced ill go back in either.
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beastie on 1 May '13 said:
come back to me in 49 layers time
silent moose on 1 May '13 said:
If the cube contains anything less than the meaning of life people will be dissapointed, if it contains nothing they will be angry as is the nature of humanity.
sh4dow83 on 1 May '13 said:
If you are saying what I think you are saying then that is way too profound for a thread about a "game" like this one