Assassin's Creed 4 is official - details coming Monday

Chris_Shanahan87 on 28 Feb '13 said:

is he...blonde??

karkify on 28 Feb '13 said:

Has rush job a written all over it.

DiamondDogs on 28 Feb '13 said:

Connor is my favorite assassin and it's sad he's not returning but it's great that you can play as his grandfather. I've been interested to see Edward Kenway's backstory explored further after reading AC Forsaken, even in the book he was an interesting character.

StonecoldMC on 28 Feb '13 said:

One hour of exclusive PS3 content?

Wheres that MS and EA Partnership thread again ?

OT, I didn't enjoy the last AC, didn't even put 10 hours into it before trading it in. Here's hoping this one can pull me back in!

sonic_uk on 28 Feb '13 said:

I like the games, but jesus there's just too many of them. I think the series needs a good rest for a couple of years until they decide what to do with it. Of course, we all know that wont happen, its gone beyond a simple game franchise now and turned into the much sought after cash cow.

One hour of exclusive PS3 content?

Wheres that MS and EA Partnership thread again ?

Er, you do realize this game is published by Ubisoft and not EA don't you?

budge on 28 Feb '13 said:

They should wave the black flag at the direction of this series.

chunkysatsuma on 28 Feb '13 said:

Would they not have been better spent working on this title for a few more months before publishing for the nextbox and ps4? Just seems now they are gonna rush to make this come out before people start to jump to the next gen

Also how random is that sixty minutes? It can't actually be important to the story as uni soft has said it won't hurt the other experiences - sixty minutes of random side missions seems an odd deal to strike for the game.

cupoftea on 28 Feb '13 said:

Lost intrest after they kept releasing on a yearly basis they should take there time to make somthing fresh but if there is a high demand for ac then fair dues

StonecoldMC on 28 Feb '13 said:

I like the games, but jesus there's just too many of them. I think the series needs a good rest for a couple of years until they decide what to do with it. Of course, we all know that wont happen, its gone beyond a simple game franchise now and turned into the much sought after cash cow.

One hour of exclusive PS3 content?

Wheres that MS and EA Partnership thread again ?

Er, you do realize this game is published by Ubisoft and not EA don't you?

That wasn't really my point and yes I do know this is a Ubi game .

DemonGhostPirate on 28 Feb '13 said:

Ubisoft flogging a dead horse. Hmmmm... On second thoughts, a perfectly alive horse considering there was barely a focus on assassinating in Disappointment Creed 3. Not to mention the fact that this apparently has a focus on the bore that was Naval Battles. If it was called Naval Creed/Sailor Creed/Ship Creed I would be pleased, but this is not the case. Not to mention the lack of major dev time they must have for this title. I wouldn't mind if it didn't have the number '4' stamped on the front cover, but considering it does it must be a very rushed entry in the series. At least with Brotherhood and Revelations, they were only filler games to finish off the Ezio story. But quite frankly, a year/year and a half dev cycle isn't that much to create a major entry in the franchise. No doubt all the fans though will lap this one up. Quite frankly this series has gone on far too long and has completely lost what made it good.

rubblemaker on 28 Feb '13 said:

Connor is my favorite assassin and it's sad he's not returning

Well, that makes one of you. Most. Boring. Character. In. The. History. Of. Videogames.

sonic_uk on 28 Feb '13 said:

I like the games, but jesus there's just too many of them. I think the series needs a good rest for a couple of years until they decide what to do with it. Of course, we all know that wont happen, its gone beyond a simple game franchise now and turned into the much sought after cash cow.

One hour of exclusive PS3 content?

Wheres that MS and EA Partnership thread again ?

Er, you do realize this game is published by Ubisoft and not EA don't you?

That wasn't really my point and yes I do know this is a Ubi game .

What was your point then? I might be being a bit thick here but I really don't get it.

MrPirtniw on 28 Feb '13 said:

Connor is my favorite assassin and it's sad he's not returning

Well, that makes one of you. Most. Boring. Character. In. The. History. Of. Videogames.

Hey! HEY! Don't you be forgetting the entire cast of Final Fantasy 13! I have no intention of playing Assassins Creed 3, but surely this 'Connor' you speak of can't be as dull as the ironicly named Lightning, can he?

StonecoldMC on 28 Feb '13 said:

@ sonic_uk

There were lots of people deriding MS yesterday in that thread, saying that by going after exclusive content and timed exclusives they were segregating Gamer's and the industry and that this was something that Sony would never do, because Sony love Gamer's and just love to make Games. This was after I pointed out that The Witness and Destiny would be appearing exclusively on the PS4 or at least get exclusive content.

I maybe didn't explain myself properly but I'm typing this from the ceiling of my office as my colleagues try to pull me down after the Rangers Title Stripping verdict came in !

sonic_uk on 28 Feb '13 said:

@ sonic_uk

There were lots of people deriding MS yesterday in that thread, saying that by going after exclusive content and timed exclusives they were segregating Gamer's and the industry and that this was something that Sony would never do, because Sony love Gamer's and just love to make Games. This was after I pointed out that The Witness and Destiny would be appearing exclusively on the PS4 or at least get exclusive content.

I maybe didn't explain myself properly but I'm typing this from the ceiling of my office as my colleagues try to pull me down after the Rangers Title Stripping verdict came in !

Ahh I see, thanks mate! I know its 12.45pm, but its still too early in the morning for me!

DiamondDogs on 28 Feb '13 said:

Connor is my favorite assassin and it's sad he's not returning

Well, that makes one of you. Most. Boring. Character. In. The. History. Of. Videogames.

Nice opinion, I don't agree with it but good for you. Thank you.

StonecoldMC on 28 Feb '13 said:

@ sonic_uk

There were lots of people deriding MS yesterday in that thread, saying that by going after exclusive content and timed exclusives they were segregating Gamer's and the industry and that this was something that Sony would never do, because Sony love Gamer's and just love to make Games. This was after I pointed out that The Witness and Destiny would be appearing exclusively on the PS4 or at least get exclusive content.

I maybe didn't explain myself properly but I'm typing this from the ceiling of my office as my colleagues try to pull me down after the Rangers Title Stripping verdict came in !

Ahh I see, thanks mate! I know its 12.45pm, but its still too early in the morning for me!

No worries Bud .

KK-Headcharge78 on 28 Feb '13 said:

Sonic get out of bed its a wonderful day

As for this news it is great to see Ubisoft not milking a franchise with continued knock offs, half assed releases etc etc

Oh wait that's not right. Well if I develop insomnia I'll be sure to pick up another installment of the dullest game this gen.

Yes I want there and all the shiny looks in the world won't change it.

shev on 28 Feb '13 said:

Even though I buy all my 3rd party console games on ps3, I really hate it when they pull off stuff like this. I just hope that the exclusive content is of the nature that it would never have been produced, if it not were for the chunk of money gained from the platform-owner. Unfortunately there's not much to do about it as I see it. It's not as if the people choosing a different platform out of principle outnumber the ones being swayed to the console with the exclusive content.

WHERESMYMONKEY on 28 Feb '13 said:

Having really liked the naval parts of AC3 and hating pretty much everything else. i'm quite looking forward to this. Not as much as i used to, But i'll pick it up at some point.

saying there's only going to be a year and a halfs dev time on its a little naieve though. chances are they started devlopment of IV while they were still working on three. Thus the fact its not ps4, 720 bound.

buffig on 28 Feb '13 said:

So, are they attempting to make something like a 3rd person Far Cry 3. Surely a similar setting/environment. FC3 was already well on the way to being an AC game.

rubblemaker on 28 Feb '13 said:

Nice opinion, I don't agree with it but good for you. Thank you.

You're welcome.

TheLastDodo on 28 Feb '13 said:

Jesus Christ

Assassins Creed V with ol' JC please Ubisoft.

DAEDALUS79 on 28 Feb '13 said:

Assassins Creed isnt going to survive till next generation at this rate. This will be the.....6th entry in under 5 years, not to mention the 7 dlc packs theyve also released. Give it a rest already

DiamondDogs on 28 Feb '13 said:

Nice opinion, I don't agree with it but good for you. Thank you.

You're welcome.

Understanding is great...

rubblemaker on 28 Feb '13 said:

Hey! HEY! Don't you be forgetting the entire cast of Final Fantasy 13! I have no intention of playing Assassins Creed 3, but surely this 'Connor' you speak of can't be as dull as the ironicly named Lightning, can he?

Having avoided Final Fantasy harder than I'd avoid an english 'value' lasagne these days I can honestly not comment on whether Connor was more or less dull than Lightning. I can however confirm that the trees in Connors game displayed more personality and emotion than Connor himself.

He had some pretty mint fighting skills though. Just completely charisma-free. Replacing him with a pirate can only be a good thing really.

rubblemaker on 28 Feb '13 said:

Understanding is great...

understanding sarcasm and not rising to it is even better... damn!!

TheLastDodo on 28 Feb '13 said:

@ sonic_uk

There were lots of people deriding MS yesterday in that thread, saying that by going after exclusive content and timed exclusives they were segregating Gamer's and the industry and that this was something that Sony would never do, because Sony love Gamer's and just love to make Games. This was after I pointed out that The Witness and Destiny would be appearing exclusively on the PS4 or at least get exclusive content.

What makes The Witness exclusivity funnier is that Sony didn't pay anything for the exclusivity, according to Blow.

wwinterj on 28 Feb '13 said:

While this is to soon after 3 I'll be buying it. I assume it'll be out October/November.

Bambis Dad on 28 Feb '13 said:

Dodo someone should tell Stonecold that it is only coming to the playstation and not xbox was due to the fact that Microsoft showed no interest in the game. This has been there approach over the lifespan of the 360, showing no interest in games. Bah dum tish.

mattdark on 28 Feb '13 said:

Has rush job a written all over it.

Agreed, considering they initial word was that AC4 would be on hold until 2014, there will be little to any improvements in this. I just couldnt get into AC3, so I will most likely skip this as its just going to be something like the 'Brotherhood' of the Assassins Creed 3 story...

Cant they just take a break for a few years, let the series stagnate naturally and then come back fresh, rather then flooding gamers with game after game with little change.
I mean, on the consoles alone weve had 5 games already, and 4 of those have been release back-to-back, year after year, and because of that, we havent seen the game evolve that much, just steps rather then a leap like we had from AC1 to AC2

kiddoblivion on 28 Feb '13 said:

Aw, look at the adorable 4 in the game's title. It's almost as though they want to make me think that this isn't just another annual "expansion pack". I wonder if this trick would have worked if they had called Revelations, Assassin's Creed IV: Revelations instead.

Until Ubisoft announces an AC game set during the Mayan/Epytian heyday with flashbacks to the First Civilization, you can count me out because fool me once (AC:Revelations) shame on you, fool me twice (ACIII) shame on me.

weston22 on 28 Feb '13 said:

ill skip this for sure,way too soon after 3!

sammikid on 28 Feb '13 said:

PS3 had the 60 minute 'Benedict Arnold story' exclusive content for AC3, so its no suprise really. That and they sold around 12 million copies, the majority of which were on playstation.
I'm all for exclusive games and don't mind exclusive content, aslong as its not 'timed' which is what I find to be petty, especially if you pay for it. Money could be better spent elsewhere.

Imaduck on 28 Feb '13 said:

I'll wait and see what it comes out like. No point bitching NOW about the whole annualisation by the way. If that was a problem to you, you should've taken a stand back at 3 or even Brotherhood. To my mind, they're just making their own series boring and kind of flooding the little niche it filled, but that's just me. I thought AC2, while not perfect at all, was one of the best games and standout moments of this gen. After that it went downhill to my mind. Fast.

El Mag on 28 Feb '13 said:

I'd like them to make the important character assassinations a bit more varied. Give different ways like a sneaky poisoning, use the environment to make it look like an accident or dress up and lure them to a silent kill. Basically something a bit like the old Hitman games.

Because for a game about assassins the actual assassinations have become a lot more clumsy and repetitive.

Barry316 on 28 Feb '13 said:

I'd like them to make the important character assassinations a bit more varied. Give different ways like a sneaky poisoning, use the environment to make it look like an accident or dress up and lure them to a silent kill. Basically something a bit like the old Hitman games.

Because for a game about assassins the actual assassinations have become a lot more clumsy and repetitive.

Too right. It seems each new game has moved away from that and concentrated on bolting more things on that go against it. Most of the kills in 3 ended up being out in crowds and bumbling around after somebody.

SpandexArmstrong on 28 Feb '13 said:

I wonder if a 'jumping the shark' mission will be included?

Cazy008 on 28 Feb '13 said:

I'm loving the location choices, however, it would have been better if they made the lead character as someone from the Caribbean if you get me..

RTY1998 on 28 Feb '13 said:

Has rush job a written all over it.

Can we please get some development time on this one?

nb_nmare2 on 28 Feb '13 said:

But quite frankly, a year/year and a half dev cycle isn't that much to create a major entry in the franchise.

You're assuming that the same development team who worked on AC3 are the ones working on this, and that they started work after completing the previous game.

For all we know, however, Ubisoft could be using a similar model to the one Activision are using for Call of Duty, i.e. two different teams are working on different games in the franchise simultaneously. Ubisoft Montreal are a pretty huge developer, after all - they just finished Far Cry 3, and as well as AC4 they're working on Watchdogs and a new Rainbow 6 game. Of course, they've now got the staff who formerly worked at THQ Montreal to help them out, too.

(If I'm right, it could mean Ubisoft also recently began work on Assassins Creed 5...)

MANYOO4EVA on 28 Feb '13 said:

I have never really liked the AC games as was not keen on any of the era's the games were set in.

However, this one has definately got my attention as it is based on a caribbean island and has pirates (Monkey Island anyone???)

Will definately be picking this up.

Stryker89 on 28 Feb '13 said:

Who on earth has been developing this? Is it the team behind Revelations?

ricflair on 28 Feb '13 said:

If 3 had received more glowing reviews as opposed to merely decent reviews, I wonder if they would have gone down the 3: Brotherhood, Revelations etc route.

I hope that's not the case, otherwise they're rushing out a new game in six months. They've whored this series to hell and back. I meant to pick up Revelations cheap, and was going to get AC3 on the Wii U at some point, but it's really not anywhere near the top of my list!

verrg5 on 28 Feb '13 said:

Has rush job a written all over it.

Idiot. They worked on this the same way they worked on AC3. AC3 started after AC2, AC4 has been worked upon ever since brotherhood by a seperate team. =_= Just...iddiiioooot...

verrg5 on 28 Feb '13 said:

Has rush job a written all over it.

Agreed, considering they initial word was that AC4 would be on hold until 2014, there will be little to any improvements in this. I just couldnt get into AC3, so I will most likely skip this as its just going to be something like the 'Brotherhood' of the Assassins Creed 3 story...

Cant they just take a break for a few years, let the series stagnate naturally and then come back fresh, rather then flooding gamers with game after game with little change.
I mean, on the consoles alone weve had 5 games already, and 4 of those have been release back-to-back, year after year, and because of that, we havent seen the game evolve that much, just steps rather then a leap like we had from AC1 to AC2

CoD. Nuff' said.

gmcb007 on 28 Feb '13 said:

It's too early to criticise the actual game but I must say I find it extremely annoying that once again ,( Before you start, I know fine rightly MS do it as well but i'm on about this specific content) Xbox 360 owners get penalised with losing out on content. Nobody benefits from this type of deal bar the CEOs.

tanukilou on 28 Feb '13 said:

Wow - Assassin's creed is going Punk! Never would have predicted that U-turn.

richomack360 on 28 Feb '13 said:

Rather watch Apollo Creed in Rocky 4 than Assasins Creed 4

matty2000uk on 28 Feb '13 said:

I think people would be less worried about this if it didn't have a "IV" in the title. I know I would. I am intrigued though as I actually did enjoy the naval combat in AC3. Unfortunately it was one of the few things I did enjoy. Like previous posts have mentioned the games do seem to have gradually lost focus. The urban areas of New York and Boston were boring and kind of the same. Not much in the way of fun climbing and air assassinations, at least not compared to previous games. The frontier was a nice change. I'm worried that this game will veer even further from the core game play that made AC2 great.

I actually enjoyed brotherhood and revelations. I thought they were genuinely good, brought great new elements to the proven model of AC2 and were a great way to continue Ezio's story. I'd be happier if this game turned out to be more something along those lines than a full sequel especially at this point in the ps3/360 life cycle.

People can moan about them releasing one a year but I'd argue that they have actually been good quality games with a decent length (call of duty campaigns tend to last 5ish hours and people seem to buy that s**te every year). AC3 did stumble and I for one was dissapointed. It was clearly rushed. It had a new engine that had not been properly utilised and the game was a badly paced but was still a good game. (and to the person who posted about Connor being the best assassin, behave. He was so dull)

If the new assassin is Connor's grandfather then wouldn't we still be Desmond? I thought they going a different way for the next one.

djhazardous on 1 Mar '13 said:

They're really taking the p**s big time now.

It's like they're announcing a f**king sequel every week.

WHITEyy118 on 1 Mar '13 said:

I will probably pick this up sometime, but only because I know how good an AC 'can be'. However, if I hadn't owned all the previous, and just came aboard with AC3, I most certainly wouldn't.

Out of the 5 (yes 5!) I only really enjoyed 2 (2 and Brotherhood I do believe) and although AC3 bought change to the series it just wasn't enough from stopping it going stale IMO. I didn't even have a go at these naval battles which angered some. But if they are anything like Den Defense from previous (something I couldn't stand) then I didn't miss much.

1Nightmare1 on 1 Mar '13 said:

Has rush job a written all over it.

Idiot. They worked on this the same way they worked on AC3. AC3 started after AC2, AC4 has been worked upon ever since brotherhood by a seperate team. =_= Just...iddiiioooot...

If you're so smart then how can you explain all the bugs that AC 3 had?

kiddoblivion on 1 Mar '13 said:

Has rush job a written all over it.

Can we please get some development time on this one?

They had the same amount of development time on Brotherhood and that was ALOT better than ACII, so...

sevvybgoode on 1 Mar '13 said:

Similar to some of the other posters on here I really enjoyed the naval battles on 3, they we probably the best part of the game if I'm totally honest. Howver the cities have always been the biggest draw IMO and due to 3s location and timeframe it couldn't offer the sprawling playgrounds that ezios games could. I loved assassins creed 2 and brotherhood was nearly as good in my eyes, revelations didn't reach the same heights but I still thought it offered a lot gameplay wise. Assassins creed 3 though had the wrong character as the main hero and Boston etc were incredibly boring. I didn't like the wild bits either barring hunting and that's been surpassed by far cry 3 in my eyes anyway.

If they wanted to make a follow up they should have kept the title as assassins creed 3 and bolted a sub title ala revelations/brotherhood to it. After all it sounds like its set during the same timeframe...

I just hope they don't set it all in the Caribbean, London or Paris from that era would be decent alternatives although I've kind of got my heart set on a Victorian London setting for one of the next assassins creed games. That or modern Tokyo...

mattdark on 1 Mar '13 said:

Agreed, considering they initial word was that AC4 would be on hold until 2014, there will be little to any improvements in this. I just couldnt get into AC3, so I will most likely skip this as its just going to be something like the 'Brotherhood' of the Assassins Creed 3 story...

Cant they just take a break for a few years, let the series stagnate naturally and then come back fresh, rather then flooding gamers with game after game with little change.
I mean, on the consoles alone weve had 5 games already, and 4 of those have been release back-to-back, year after year, and because of that, we havent seen the game evolve that much, just steps rather then a leap like we had from AC1 to AC2

CoD. Nuff' said.

True, but with that likes of CoD, and many sports titles, the focus for those games is the multiplayer aspect, that why the story (Well, what story there is) and single-player content is usually so insignificant. As little as I enjoy Call of Duty, its easier for them to go down the annual release path.

With games like Assassins Creed though, where the Single Player experience is meant to be the main focus of the game, with multiplayer as a bonus, having a yearly cycle between releases is putting a choke-hold on the devs, reducing the experience by rushing the game out with little time to focus on building a stronger story or improved gameplay experience.

sonic_uk on 1 Mar '13 said:

I will get the game, I did enjoy the others after all, but as I said I think they need to give the series a rest for a couple of years. I will be getting it on 360 as that's my platform of choice for multiplatform games, and I'm not too bothered about the exclusive content, its usually just an extra mission or something similar which doesn't worry me as I rarely play any of the exclusive content that comes with games anyway.

HelloLadies on 1 Mar '13 said:

They're just diluting the franchise now and its completely lost the point. I personally enjoyed the setting of AC 1 and found it exciting and fresh in a way, it just lacked in the gameplay department. AC 2 was probably my favourite of the series so far but I quite enjoyed Ezios story in the other games. 3 was a buggy mess and I found the setting and addition of guns to be quite a disappointment not to mention Connor the simpleton assassin. I really don't know what to expect from this pirates of the high seas addition. It just seems ridiculous and another step away from being an assassin. Like I said in another article they should have done a spin off franchise that caters to the crowd that just want to go in swinging their sword like a rusty gate. I really hope they eventually dial the era right back to the 1300s or 1400s and work on the assassination mechanic so you can stalk your target and eliminate them as you see fit.

mattdark on 1 Mar '13 said:

And I'm not too bothered about the exclusive content, its usually just an extra mission or something similar which doesn't worry me as I rarely play any of the exclusive content that comes with games anyway.

TBH, your probably not missing much. They love to go on about how we are getting a whole 60 minutes of extra content, but fail to mention that of those 60 minutes, 10 minutes goes to cutscenes to introduce the new missions, 10-20 minutes (depending how close missions are to fast-travel points) goes to traveling to the missions start point so roughly half of that time is spent being actually playing the extra missions.

procion on 1 Mar '13 said:

is he...blonde??

All I know is he ain't adventuring in France and it ain't 1789 . Well at least we are moving on from the androidal Connor, whom definately had a superb voice for radio, and I do mean that as a compliment, very thlight lithp notwisthtanding. Lets hope that if there are horses this time around, that they can at least jump between islands. Stuck on non jumping horses rump not good, especially without jump button, especially when a five centimetre incline off the edge of a rock is stalling the thing. I found it quicker and less hassle just running to my destinations in the end...

nb_nmare2 on 2 Mar '13 said:

If you're so smart then how can you explain all the bugs that AC 3 had?

Development time is hardly any indication of the number of bugs a game has. Duke Nukem Forever was in development for fifteen years, and still had a considerable amount of issues (beyond being a crap game).

slamatron on 3 Mar '13 said:

trailer is on youtube now

verrg5 on 3 Mar '13 said:

Idiot. They worked on this the same way they worked on AC3. AC3 started after AC2, AC4 has been worked upon ever since brotherhood by a seperate team. =_= Just...iddiiioooot...

If you're so smart then how can you explain all the bugs that AC 3 had?

Omg, idiots like you. The bugs were intentional. By putting in bugs, Ubisoft made it seem like it was technical difficulties in a machine therefore, they were able to make it seem like you are in a "real" animus. Idiot.

verrg5 on 3 Mar '13 said:

trailer is on youtube now

omg THANK YOU I WATCHED IT

verrg5 on 3 Mar '13 said:

trailer is on youtube now

omg THANK YOU I WATCHED IT