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  • Apr 19, 2013

Danny explores the history of Sensible Software, the developers behind two of his favourite childhood games; Cannon Fodder and Sensible Soccer.

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435 comments
iomor27
iomor27

No clue about this episode, but it's always cool to hear about video game beginnings and stuff like that. I still want to put in my vote for an episode on the Civilization series, Everquest, and/or hockey. Yeah, I know, I'm the minority here.  lol

seanbrandowen
seanbrandowen

Take your vitamins Danny, we missed you dude.And leave the pigeon sims for Mike Tyson Lol.

melante
melante

great episode! Sensible Software was genius!

Errorcutive
Errorcutive

Nice episode danny i hope you made more of efms than random encounter

KingofCabal
KingofCabal like.author.displayName 1 Like

Hi Danny, are you ever going to do a Lucasarts episode?

dannyodwyer
dannyodwyer moderatorstaff

@KingofCabal Not likely mate, I've done Star Wars and had a whole section of the point and click episode devoted to them. It would just be repeating all that again.

nomadski69
nomadski69

Fun Fact: In the Atari ST520FM version of Sensible Soccer, if your two teams selected were England '66 and West Germany '66 in that order, the match would begin and play entirely in black and white.


SS were amazing in that era.

UpInSmoke0803
UpInSmoke0803

Wow, I actually played Cannon Fodder I, but I obviously did not associate the historical significance of that title and gaming development in Europe.  Also, I've been playing an internet arcade title called New Star Soccer, but it eerily looks like a Sensible Soccer knock-off.  Hopefully people aren't infringing upon your intellectual property.

stefip
stefip

I'm not sure if he already did it. But he should do the history of Civilization franchise. Since it basically began as a board game in the 80s, and then progressed to a video game, and to mention many expansions which came out for each one. I think it could be a very nice episode, there's a lot of history behind that game.

edhc44
edhc44

Suggestions: Square/Squaresoft (NOT Square Enix) or the golden age of JRPGs outside Japan. You know, its beginnings in the SNES, the apex in the PSOne, the twilight years in the PS2 and the current struggle to stay relevant. Heck, I think I could do that =p

Or even a run on Final Fantasy history would be cool to watch, and it would be as good motif as any other, given the strengh the series once held and the criticism shitstorm it has endured in the past few years, despite still being commercially successful.

WaximusMTPD
WaximusMTPD

Absolutely need a Fallout episode, with particular emphasis on the evolution to Fallout 3. Of course, I might just be biased because I live in the Capital Wasteland.

leop4rd
leop4rd

I'd love to see a video on the creators of the music behind Streets of rage (Motohiro Kawashima and Yuzo Koshiro), I've read they were really introvert people and anything on them would be fascinating, plus the games themselves (1-3) were ace.

AshTrai
AshTrai

I assumed cannon fodder was everywhere. I never knew it wasn't really released anywhere else other than the UK. Guess i can consider myself lucky to play it back in the day then :D. 
It is remarkable how attached u get to your little dudes in cannon fodder and it is funny that just a few small additions sensible software made quickly turned cannon fodder into a profoundly anti-war game even though it doesn't scream it at your face, it was far more subversive. I actually can't think of another game that does that (caveat: i dont pretend to have played all games ever made so dont rage at me for not picking it up in games i haven't played!)

Now, i've never liked football games but even i can tell that sensi soccer was vastly superior to everything else around at the time it came out and can understand the following it acquired. All my mates played it.


Danny, i still think u should do some EFMS on absolutely atrocious games and the story of their disaster/mis-management.

gurkagunner
gurkagunner

I loved his episode the game developer was pretty funny and had a wicked story. The explanation of that Wiz Kid game pure madness reminds me of games in the 1990s.

Wawas20
Wawas20 like.author.displayName 1 Like

good ep, not as good as other eps but this serious tone was refreshing for once. i live in aus so ive never heard of sensible software. for me out of all the sports games out there. soccer (go on bring the hate) is the best kind of sports game out there even though i cant watch a whole real match.  

dj_ene-miss
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Hey Danny, here are some suggestions for future episodes.

1) Sexy women in video games, you know like Catwoman in Batman: Arkham Asylum, Triss Merigold in Witcher 2, Alyx in HL 2 (all of them with great a** :P ) etc etc

2) Voice actors/models. Sooo many voices that we have grown to love and have no idea who is behind them and/or real people posing for the creation of in game characters.

3) Sound design and/or music. We all know that sound is very important for the immersion of a game but you never realize how much until you play a crap hd remake of prince of persia trilogy with its hugely bugged sound.

Vote if you like my ideas ppl :)

edhc44
edhc44

@dj_ene-miss I think you're missing the point since for once they had an actual developer as a guest on the show, but I really liked your 2nd suggestion for... something else. 1st is waaaay overused (although I can't help but think of Miranda and Samara from Mass Effect fame) and sound design and music would also make a good episode of a different show. Don't get me wrong, I just disagree that those would be good topics considering EFMS general motif.

dj_ene-miss
dj_ene-miss

@edhc44 True, for no 1, it is overused but I can't imagine what will happen when you combine Danny's dry humor with those perfectly shaped female characters.

BrYaNq93
BrYaNq93

I hate how american gamers are considered to only love war games.  Im an american gamer who loves a variety of games, hell I grew up playing some PC games back in the 90s but mostly grew up playing the NES/SNES.  Currently I play tons of different video games, from FPS to Sports to racing to platformer, anything and almost everything.  I feel embarrassed to call myself a gamer  in america since most of this new generation considers COD/BF as the better game out there. 


Also I would love to see Danny cover the history of megaman.  I grew up with that guy! 

InkOnTube
InkOnTube

@BrYaNq93 You might notice your country has quite a huge population and with it a lot of different opinions. The thing is, managers trough advertisements run pretty much every aspect of your society trough hype (not only in game business). Of course there are other Americans who prefer non war games. Yet hype over war, shooting and killing games is pretty big hype and easy to go along with when you are new upcoming player.

fobbs69
fobbs69

Loved Cannon Fodder and Sensible World of soccer on the Snes as a kid

breathnac
breathnac

I love your videos man ever think about covering the dot Hack franchise? It's a lil obscure but has a pretty rich history.

Darkhol0w
Darkhol0w

Glad to see this show back Danny and great episode to start with.

Although I am european myself I was born during the Fourth Generation so I didn't catch these games unfortunately. My earliest console was the first edition Game Boy followed by Sega Mega Drive 2 so I came really late into video games.

I've only heard of Cannon Fodder in a games magazine I buy monthly in the Retro section.

Nickpocalypse
Nickpocalypse

Love the Zool shoutout

Also, as a Canadian, I had never really heard of Sensible, but I did play the shit out of Cannon Fodder when it was ported to Gameboy Color

RSM-HQ
RSM-HQ

Amiga brought so many amazing/ original games. No wonder you see so many that stood the test of time getting graphical overhauls with gameplay remaining identical from that golden generation. 

Speedball 2, Secret of Monkey Island, Worms 2, Lemmings, & Putty Squad are good examples :) 

Now all we need is a confirmed The Chaos Engine & Cannon Fodder re-emerging.

GrimmN0ir
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Fucking superb video. Proper, worthy games journalism/documentary making; top notch. Good to see such a pioneer getting some recognition, and how wonderful to see a coherent and erudite games maker talking frankly and openly. More EFMS! More videos like this on Gamespot. BOOM!

Stebsis
Stebsis

I would love EFMS episode of Richard Garriott and his games now that his new game has been funded at Kickstarter.

mruizinho
mruizinho like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Amiga was one of the best consoles (if i can call that) ever and one of most under rated of all time. It was ahead of Nes and more or less the level of mega drive (Genesis)  and snes, but with a lot of piracy support :D.

Saketume
Saketume

@mruizinhoWell let's see

It was sold in toy stores like a console. It connected to a TV like a console. It played games like the best console ever. It turned on and off like a console. No boot times to speak of even if you did have a HDD which most people didn't since it played games and programs right off diskettes when you switched the power on.

Other than that it was a very powerful computer at the time and it still can put a modern day PC to shame in some areas.

Btw it had the same CPU in 1985 as they put in the Mega Drive a few years later (although the MD got two of them). Later Amiga models were fitted with better CPUs and/or expansion boards with new CPUs. The real power of the Amiga was in the custom chip copper and blitter however.


Oh and Here's a kickoff2 video (since I was talking about that earlier on) for a comparison with sensible soccer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3CRm0Ufkl0

There doesn't seem to be any good videos of it on youtube so I'm sorry for the blur.

mruizinho
mruizinho

Sensible soccer is one of my favorite games i ever played, i still prefer it to pes or fifa. So good memories.

couly
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Those games were from a time when the box was bigger than the kid that bought it.  Anyway, I look forward to the episode on the Bitmap Brothers, which I know is coming.

simulacraman
simulacraman

Hare was fun to listen to.

Suggestions...uh...the history of sexual obsession over teenage girls among Japanese game developers? Nah, too honest. Imagery from the Myth of Sisyphus in the Halo series? Too obscure. Mario as archetype for overachieving men of inadequate height. Yeah, that one.

Philly04
Philly04 like.author.displayName 1 Like

lol wizards with rocket launchers. 

simulacraman
simulacraman

Yeah, we do love war, don't we?  War or soccer - tough choice.

I could be talked into a wizard with a rocket launcher pretty easily.

And I loved the Amiga as a gaming machine. Developers seemed to mess around and experiment a lot more then.

LukeTauro
LukeTauro

Sensible soccer was by far one of the best, most addictive games I played as a kid on my PC... and getting to know the guy who actually made it... haha amazing! For other episodes, how about looking into other companies like Sierra, Micropose, or the guys from the original Syndicate (was it Bullfrog?)

abbasreza
abbasreza

I'd never even heard of Sensible Software before; definitely a very informative and interesting episode!

Gh05t_
Gh05t_

Thanks Danny! This was a piece of the industry that I never knew about. I'm only nineteen, so this was kind of before my time, as it were. It's always refreshing to hear about the early days of the industry.

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