Trine 2: Director's Cut - Video Review

 @Cyberxion All I read was noise.  Try again when you bring yourself above my level, thanks.

 @JustPlainLucas  I don't know where you get off calling anyone else dense, dude. Your arguments are that regardless of whether or not they're written by different people with their own unique tastes, reviews should be consistent simply for the sake of consistency, and that furthermore, critics should write reviews in service of developers rather than those of us whose hard-earned money goes to buying these games.  Then you tried to write it all off by pretending to merely be curious about a discrepancy that anyone with even a semi-functioning brain should understand at a single glance. You don't just come off as dense here, you come off as a drooling idiot. In fact, the more I read of your egotistical and wholly undeserved self-congratulatory defense of your inane position, the more that I'm convinced that you are so stupid that you would die if your mommy and daddy hadn't hired someone to follow you around to remind you to breathe. What you are demanding is not at all reasonable, and you look like an ignorant neanderthal for insisting on it, let alone continuing to claim that you're right even though it would be impossible for you to be any more wrong than you are. To put it into simple terms for your simple mind, a review is and always will be an individual's wholly subjective opinion. Ponder that for a bit, and maybe it'll become clear to you why this particular individual's score doesn't match up with that of the person who reviewed the other versions.

 @carolynmichelle  What is bothering so many people is this:

When a game is rereleased, it usually only gets reviewed if it is different from the original. Sony's "Greatest Hits" and Nintendo's "Nintendo Selects" rereleases don't get reviewed because it's the exact same game. So when a rerelease is reviewed, many people come to the review expecting to find out what different--comparisons of graphics/difficulty, information that will help them decide which version to get, information on whether or not it's worth getting if they already have the original, etc.

Aside from saying that expansion packs are included, this review doesn't do any of that. I have no idea if you've played the original, but if you haven't, I don't think it is unfair of people to ask why you were assigned to do the review. If the reviewer can't speak to the differences between the versions, then what is the point of doing the review in the first place? It's basically a re-review of the game, rather than a review of the rerelease. Does that make sense?

Please keep in mind that we are the outsiders looking in, and don't know your job/industry as you do. We sometimes make assumptions or say things in ignorance. I hope that what I've said comes across as questioning and constructive criticism, rather than being disrespectful.

 @carolynmichelle  This thread is hilarious. Good work Carolyn, enjoyed the review, seemed like you made a lot of valid points. Such a shame too, the game does look gorgeous.

 @Gelugon_baat  @JustPlainLucas Maybe he had a poor choice of words there but an explanation on the the 2 point drop or at least some sort of comparison to the other versions would have made this easier to swallow for some folks.

 @JustPlainLucas  

I hope I'm not making myself look stupid here.

I too want to know why the score is much lower than the other version. But in this case, that would be impossible as it is reviewed by two different person. Obviously you know about "different opinion" (which Gelugon_baat loved so much). Carolyn can't put a comparison between her review with Jane's review, cause that would be silly.

I think Carolyn did a great job reviewing this game as she point out the things that make this game get a score 6.5. Floaty movement, exploitable physics, shallow combat, etc. If people read Carolyn review and thought that IS a bad thing, then her review can be trusted. But if people thought it won't ruin the fun, they can use Jane's review instead.

I may not add a lot with this post and I may missed things of what you''re saying in the previous post. I hope no one get offended as I never meant to.

Long post with bad English, I hope you guys can understand what I'm trying to say.

 @carolynmichelle

"They are two different perspectives on the same game." - Unfortunately, this is the main problem. You are reviewing a different game, the Wii U version. It comes off as biased when only one version of a game gets rated lower when there aren't any major reasons for it. It not only affects the game, it affects people's view of the system.

 @carolynmichelle I'm sorry you were put into this position, Carolyn.  You know I have nothing but the utmost respect for you.  I just don't feel that  you should have reviewed the game if your feelings weren't going to coincide with Jane's.  The only time a game should have a significant point difference across multiple platforms is when there's something objectively wrong, which is what you are unable to point out, unless you guys want to start a panel of reviewers like the old EGM days (personally, I'd love to see that).  I'd have been much happier if you'd have reviewed all the other versions, but what you've essentially done here is rereviewed the game, a practice that GS rarely condones.  

 @carolynmichelle  @JustPlainLucas @Gelugon_baat Wow Lucas, you are not alone. After reading & watching the review and then reading the discussion afterwards, I am equally frustrated. I can understand if they don't agree with you but they are acting like your crazy for even wondering why it is different.

Carolyn - here is your chance - please tell us why the Wii U version is 2 points worse than the other versions. Is it just the voice chat? If you would have rated ALL versions of Trine2 as 6.5, can we get Gamespot to honor your review of those over a non existent reviewer?

 @Gelugon_baat But that always happens... Unless something is extremely different between two or more versions, all versions get the same score.  It didn't happen in this instance, however, because unfortunately for Trine 2's case, the original reviewer is no longer there.  A 2.0 difference between versions should indicate there is something significantly inferior with the lower scoring game.  That isn't the case here.  As I said earlier, they should have grabbed someone who liked Trine 2 more to review it to give the game a more ACCURATE review.  Sorry for the flame, but you are really in the wrong  here.  The fact that you can't see it just makes debating with you that much more annoying.  I'm done here.  Save your reply. (which you probably won't)

 @Gelugon_baat You're dense, you really are.  Of course I'd be okay with  it.  I like consistency.  I'm not complaining about the low score of the Wii U version.  I'm not even complaining really.  I'm just airing my curiosity regarding the discrepancy.  

 @Gelugon_baat Yes, we'd have consistency.  

 @Gelugon_baat If they botched the Wii U version, I'd agree with you, but according to Carolyn's review, they didn't do anything differently.  Are you incapable of understanding what is going on here?

 @Gelugon_baat Put yourself in the developer's shoes.  You see a giant publication give your game an 8.5.  You then spend time and work to make a quality port for another system, and then see it was given to a reviewer who scored it two points lower and didn't even talk about why it was worse than the other versions.  Wouldn't you be upset?  

 @Gelugon_baat I don't own stock in the game or in the company, true, but when something bothers me, I'll express it.  I have a right to ask questions.  You may have thought you were clarifying things for me, but you're not the person I want to hear it come from.  

 @Gelugon_baat Ok, I didn't know Jane no longer worked at GS.  They should have found someone who shared her similar views on the game, though.  It's like replacing the sports reviewer with someone who doesn't like football to review Madden 14 because the regular guy is out sick. 

 @Gelugon_baat Yes, because if Carolyn didn't point out any major reasons why the Wii U version was different, then it would be just the same as if Jane Douglas reviewed it herself.

 @Gelugon_baat I'm going to assume you're smart enough to know who I'm talking about.

 @Gelugon_baat I didn't say they should plaster it under Carolyn's name, did I?