PS4: new kits shipping now, AMD A10 used as base

WOOT!

Nice read and good/ promising news, i do really hope the price is not too high, though.

Sounds great. And they are actually talking about being “affordable”. Next gen is sounding pretty awesome. I can’t wait to see some games.

What i don’t get it. They are openly talking about the PS4, but there’s so little (if anything) concrete and confirmed about Xbox 3/720.

Good to get some “news” of Orbis. I just hope Sony lernt their lessons with PS3 and Vita. Meaning that what you pack into the box is less important then the price can afford to charge for it. They better get it right or the road could get rougher for Sony from there.

affordable $399 instead of $599
Let’s hope at least 8gb ram is true.

Fuck yeah, as good as games like Halo 4 and AC3 may be, I cant wait for the next generation. I NEED new consoles. 2013 will be epic.

One thing’s for sure…

Sony can’t just stick a PlayStation logo on a brick and expect it so sell millions, anymore.

A10 chip means it will not require to much power to run and cheaper to build which means cheaper console but I am not sure for performance.While lastest A10 for desktop is quite solid its not that good for 1080p gaming or even 3D.
But again they promised 1080p for ps3

But will it run PS2 and PS3 games?
If not, it better has one hell of a line up to convince me.

@8 yeah, because PS3 didn’t sold at all, right? …lolwut?

So far this looks like the most detailed rumor we had, with believable specs.

^ Is the PS3 a brick?

I hope it comes out early 2014…..the PS3 seems like it’s going out with a bang next year.

GB or Gb?serious question
And never heard about 256GB HDD,it’s always 250GB,unless actually it’s 256Gb=32GB

I’m really happy that we have a detailed and reasonable spec sheet here.
I don’t know much about A10 but I think it won’t be that bad.8GB of RAM is very cool.regarding the 8/16 debate I think Sony guys themselves aren’t 100% sure of which one to choose.perhaps they are shipping it this way in order to get feedback from developers.
Bad that there is no info on control methods(yet !).
About backwards compatibility I think they are going to count on Porting current games and so on,similar to this gen HD remasters or possibly cloud via Gaikai

No more useless shitty Cell, huzzah!

I’ll never buy another Sony product as long as I live, but it’s great news that console tech from the big 3 is converging on x86 as it benefits all gamers.

A single A10 does seem somewhat underpowered though. Surely it will have a discrete GPU as well?

They don’t want another panic GPU addition at the last minute. That’s in part what fucked the PS3.

@12 Okay, sorry, didn’t understand what you meant, that’s because here in Brazil the PS3 received the nickname of something like a brick(tijolo baiano) because of it’s size. Now I see you meant the situation of debts Sony is passing through, right?

Oh wow, they want to officialy announce it before E3? I seriously wonder what MS is planning then.

It seems that the hardware is more conservative.

i can’t blame Sony for that.

People expecting a system with 8 GB are DREAMING.

The system will come with 4 GB which already a huge jump from the PS3.

Devkits have always more ram.

And if the Vita is any indication, Sony will be more conservative on the Ram to have a acceptable retail price.

I think 399 £$must be the target retail price for them.

@19
I don’t know for sure,but twice the RAM in devkit ?
However,we can’t expect a 399$ machine with equal specs to a 1000$ PC.

“The UI, however, has been revamped. It was said today that players will now be able to press the PS button mid-game and travel “anywhere” on the system. An example given was buying DLC from the PS Store mid-game then seamlessly returning to play.”

Yeah, lets just hope its smooth. Even accessing the XMB in a game is not smooth.

@OG

This is a real honest question…

Do you really want Sony to do well? The reason I ask, is because you leave a comment in every Sony related article with this whole ‘doom & gloom’ attitude. “I hope Sony learns from their mistakes this gen” or “I don’t see Sony surviving next gen”. This is just a few of your reoccuring complaits and I really don’t see how you can have anything negative to say about this rumor, but it never seems to fail.

Again, this is a honest question, I don’t want to argue

I’m expecting a Radeon HD 7850 equivalent GPU, that 256GB drive is most likely a SSD & 4GB of RAM.

@17:

I was saying that Sony’s situation has changed hugely since the end of the previous console gen.

When the PS3 was on the way, iirc, some Microsoft exec was quoted as saying that Sony could sell bricks if they put a PlayStation logo on them.

Nobody disagreed.

Probably least of all Sony, who packed so much into the PS3, that they had to sell it for such a high price.

This time, because of their financial situation, they’re forced to really work hard and come up with an innovative, low priced product for the first time since the PS1.

The PS4 is Sony’s opportunity to show the games industry that they’re still the biggest kid on the block, and they need to take full advantage of it.

@23

I don’t believe in SDD. this would skyrocket the price of the console.

Flash or HDD more likely.

@24 I see. Sorry about the misunderstanding!

And I agree with you, this is their opportunity. I don’t know, in my mind at least I think that it will happen like the current gen. Nintendo takes the lead with their casual market(or not so casual anymore), then Sony and Microsoft battles for the “hardcore” gamer. The first to release it will have an clear advantage, because the die-hard fans of the hardcore games will get the first console they can put their hands on, they don’t have the patience to wait and see the options.

And there’s the ones like me, who still have faith in Sony. I’m still with playstation since the first one, after coming from SNES and never again changed.

@25 I think so too, a SSD isn’t something you’d put on a piece that you claim to be affordable

Yeah, but it’s all not important. What’s important is if it will run PS3 games. If it doesn’t, then why would you buy it?
PSN. Think about it, people have thousands of items on their download lists, huge sums of money spent on PS store. PS4 must support PS3 games. Otherwise you might as well move to somewhere else, like on PC.

@26:

No problemo!

@16 damm troll. Shouldn’t you be playing your halo 4? Or have you gotten used to playing the same shit over and over again on that xbox?

Oh man, so many fanboys.

The short answer Mike W is no, I don’t want to see them fail.

When Sony came onto the scene with hardware with PSx, they had drive and meaning. They offered a great system, affordable, better then Saturn(3Dwise), and changed the course of video games. They continued to do that with PS2. But after that?

This gen has been a tutorial on what not to do given by Sony. They could have written a book. The PS3 hardware is a mess. And it was/is too expensive. You can not win any generation of hardware by puting out a tech heavy yet pricey box. PS2 didn’t win buy being better then Xbox, it won by being more affordable. Sony forgot that with PS3, and worse they did the samething again with Vita. That is what I mean by I hope they lernt their lessons and make future designs around the idea that hardware can be too expensive. What is in the box matters less then if folks can afford to buy the box.

I do tend to be a bit doom and gloom. I am very cynicle, it happens when you get older. You feel that almost everything stinks. Or maybe that is just me, lol.

I won’t be cheering if Sony fails, anymore then I was when Sega and NEC stoped making hardware. But I really don’t see much of a future for Sony in hardware. I could see them being a publisher. Even using Giakia on tablets, phones, smart TVs, and even consoles.

If I was Sony, I would drop Orbis plans. I would tighten my services on PS3, enhance Vita to PS3 conectivity, and look to compete directly with WiiU. I would fight XBNXT with price, services, and installed user base. I would explore getting Giakia going asap, and getting games on the service that dip into their rich past as well as putting out XBNXT level games that can be streamed. Giakia would allow PS3 to play games that could rival or surpass XBNXT games(graphicly). If they did that, and were able to sell PS3s for 150usd…I believe that would work.

But instead they will push out new hardware and try once again to out Microsoft Microsoft. And I honestly don’t think they can do that. I think MS is going to clean up next gen with outstanding services that range from premium TV subscriptions to music downloads to as of yet unannounced services. I think games are only a small part of the picutre next gen. And sercvices, btw, can easily be handled on PS3.

Hate Sony?

No.

Think they are out to lunch?

Yes, truely.

AMD A10?

That is AMD Fusion

WELCOME to 2009 guys.

So much next gen here. My previous intel processor that is based on Quad core Q6+ series is more powerfull than any of the latest of that trash.

but that is probably enough to have Call Of Duty with direct X11 in 60 frames per second and that is enough to spend not a lot of money on the console. Cool story bro.

P.S. This year in June there are already AMD Trinity processors and they are inferior to any Intel stuff. Just WoW Sony.

So… 1-2 years to develop a game… Christmas 2014 launch?

@32:

You should care, since you’ll probably be wasting money on overpriced hardware to play nothing but ports, anyway.

^ In 100 frames per second with all the graphical stuff and without Auto-Aim. With fantastic Kickstarter projects.

thank you.

@25, Learn what a SSD is. It’s not limited to those 2.5″ SATA ones that you’d grab for your PC.

#34 I would had not put it that way, you are opening his wounds once again, and then he will rage at consoles even more, though i like that respond, i am not so sure if it will have the desire effect GIGA, thats maybe the number one reason he hates consoles so much, not saying is right or wrong, though.

@35:

Oooh… Wow.

From 60fps to 100. That’s got to be worth £200, right?

You might be able to get another 500 hours of unnoticeably smoother, auto aim free gameplay out of Black Ops 2!

How lovely.

SSD won’t skyrocket the console.

SSD costs a lot now because it’s a “cool feature”. In reality that’s not much.

but console with SSD could be awesome.

@35 Nobody cares.

The games are either good or they’re aren’t.

@G1GA, If I will play only Call Of duty I won’t need a rig at all..

Also, If we remember PS3 was 599$

@40, Sure. That’s why there are less and less good games every year on the current gen systems and industry is in trouble because of 7-8 year old consoles.

@41 He doesn’t only play Call of Duty.

“That’s why there are less and less good games every year on the current gen systems and industry is in trouble because of 7-8 year old consoles.”

Whether there’s less good games every year is entirely a matter of opinion. I for one couldn’t disagree more. I think games keep getting better all the time, on both the Indie and the Triple A side of things.

Consoles have nothing to do with the troubles of the industry. In case you hadn’t noticed, we’re in the middle of a worldwide recession that makes the 1930s look like it was a cake-walk.

#32

I’ve seen faceoffs where the A10 absolutely smoked the equivalent Intel quadcore.

That was using the on-chip GPU. Not seen discrete GPU-equipped system comparisons though.

@32
Why don’t you just sit behind your super computer,playing BF3 at 1080P with everything at Ultra high and 200fps? Just let others comment and discuss in peace.
@34
Agreed

I personally think the hardware is good.If it is 8GB of RAM,then we are talking about 16 times more memory.The article says the processor is based on A10, what I understand is that it may just be architecture of processor and such.

@43, O’RLY?

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A10-5700+APU

@belmont, my comment has nothing to do with PC superiority. I’m talking about Next Gen consoles. 2009 technology not that big of a leap from 2006 to be honest.

Consoles should not cost 999$ with TOP Notch CPU or GPU. They should be just next gen.

sony must change their srategy. they try so hard to be the most tech savy, modern, most hip (and expensive) of the bunch. it´s not working and it´s good that it´s not working cause it stinks. i HATED sonys marketing this gen. they have so much great stuff and potential that they could push. they totally pressed all the wrong buttons this gen, even with many of their exclusives. i don´t want them to disappear, some of my most beloved ip´s are sony owned…but they will have a tough time next gen, a true fight to fight. competition is stronger than ever. consumers more unforginving than ever. one more major wrong decission and they are out.

Also, consoles have a lot less going on in the background than PCs do, giving them more to work with at a lower spec.

Frankly, you won’t need more than an A10 for gaming, I can run Skyrim on high with a measly A6

@48, Genius, it’s because current gen does not require more then old CPU.

When the next gen comes processing power will be huge compared to the last gen. It’s always like that in all console generations.

@Erthazus
So,I think you are not satisfied with the amount of leap in the PS4,I understand. yet still,They need to ship it at an affordable price and Sony can’t afford to sell consoles at a huge loss per unit.
On the other end,I think this A10 thing is going to be good enough. If they hold true to their promise of 1080P and 60FPS, I can’t wait to experience Uncharted’s visuals in that level.