Square Enix first Unreal 4 licensee

 diaz3 I'm asking the same thing. Maybe their engine is bad???

Please read the article. "According to the announcement, Square Enix will use Unreal Engine 4 as a means to supplement its proprietary software, the Luminous Studio engine." diaz3

 Mellowcow Um.... I'm sorry, but generally Square Enix has amazing graphics. If you look at FFXIII, they graphics on that game are STILL good, so I'm really curious as to what you are referring to... 

 bongsyas_23 Ummm, not with the Luminous Engine, they don't NEED it. The article stated that UE4 would be used as a supplement, meaning games will primarily be in the Luminous Engine from what I can tell. 

 squall_83 It's probably more efficient in lots of ways.  It's all based on the code, the more you compartmentalize, organize and reduce the size of your code, the better it will perform under stress. 

It's the reason I can run Max Payne 3 at 60 fps maxed out, while it's nearly impossible to keep Crysis 2 above 20 on the same system.  Efficiency.

 gunnplay  squall_83 Also i wonder how much work went into the Agni-Demo. If a UE4 Demo was done with the same amount of work who can say that it won't look even better than the Luminous Tech Demo.

 gunnplay True. The Unreal Engine as always been good about delivering amazing graphics lightning fast even on slower machines

 FlameAmarant  1 new reply 

You weren't an FF7 lover? Didn't like that Shit? I sure didn't. The thing is it was all about financing. The same people making games don't do the film stuff. So we get that and they make the so lovely open-world FF13 and the much played and loved FF14! Quality games have nothing to do with film!

 imrobish like it or not kid ff7---->ff13 

characters

story

hell even combat difficulty.

but meh u mentioned ff the 2 most horrible games in the franchise history to date so i wonder why i even bother to respond to you...learn about jrpg quality then talk again kkthxbb

 Phoenix-Ho-Yoku  imrobish no, not combat difficulty. don't kid yourself.

I'd even argue characters (somewhat), but all FF7 had on it was it's world that you inhabited and the story that gave it meaning.

 imrobish

 I have the FF7 : Advent Children movie and most of the the big name in past Final fantasy Game worked on the movie.

 obsequies I hope not ;)

 obsequies As a real person, I ask you to change your opinion of an unreal world. It really is the best you get.

 obsequies

 I fear that moment ... when all the game will look the same ... the end of unique art style, the end of a signature visual ... then every caracter will have oversized muscles, big gun and no story.

 Coco_pierrot the games engine, specifically the udk has nothing to do with the diversity of the art style, signature visual..and definitely has nothing to do with muscles, guns, or story..this is a game engine. Its the development software that's been designed to format and lay out the game according to the developers liking. The unreal engine is one of the most used game engines in the indie and aaa market today and is probably the most flexible..you can basically make it look, act or do whatever you want and has nothing to do with "unreal" the game other than they made the game with the engine. There are many reasons why games are the same now but I wouldn't blame the unreal engine. The only downside to the udk is licensing 

 obsequies

 Look at all the games made with Unreal engine ... they all look the same. I don,t see any variation in the visual between a EA, Activision or Ubisoft games. They all look the same. When I look at Mortal Kombat, Mass Effect, Gears Of War, BioShock, Transformers Fall Of Cybertron and of course Unreal Tournement 3 ... all have the same visual aspect, same lightning effect, same texture, same everything ... the only game that is different using that engine is Borderland because of the cel-shading. So I think the engine is a part of the equation why everything look the same.

None of the indi game that I played were made with Unreal.

I'm sure this is a move to please the USA market ... and since the USA like big muscles, big guns and no story, I fear that not only the visual will be the same but everything else too.

 Coco_pierrot the only games you listed were huge triple A's that are in the same market..I use various game engines, unreal being one of them and I can guarantee you that visual style and guns have nothing or little to do with a games engine..especially the instance of the unreal. To the average person that sees the unreal splash screen on these large titles they see them and they think...wait a minute there are a lot of unreal made games that all seem the same..but the reality of the situation is that the large developers that use this engine are CREATING games that are the same and it has nothing to do with the capabilities of the engine itself but the direction that the team would be choosing to take. obviously there are shortcuts and reskins that happen but anyways..yes the engine is very flexible, you can put whatever you want in it..these teams have chosen to stick to the safe and beaten down path of overused art and design. 

 Coco_pierrot the reason the indie scene has a hard time with unreal is, as I stated, licensing is very nasty with epic..unity is actually a harder engine to work with compared to the udk but can sometimes cost less compared to the unreal. I am a huge fan of unity and cant wait for 4 to roll out but seriously...unreal is on our side

 Coco_pierrot http://www.indiedb.com/engines/unreal-development-kit/games  here's a very small list of indie games done with the udk.

 Coco_pierrot if you were kidding sorry..I don't catch onto things 

 abcdefgabcdefgz It sounds like you've already gotten your hands on a speed run-through. I was hoping for 6 at least. That would last longer than my Dishonored time at least.

 hitman047m4 I'm guessing yes. I think that's the main point of it, so it can be used with the Edios games and SE's other sub companies.

 mav_destroyer Even though we are assuming the same thing Thanks ;)