iPad mini hits Nov. 2 for $330

 SaudiFury I think a lot of the hate on the device is very uncalled for and I too am very much looking forward too picking one up soon.

 paladin125 Was exactly what I came here to post. I'm a huge Apple fan but since Jobs has passed away the company has gone downhill. No creativity. Garbage commercials. Jobs would be ashamed.

 carlisledavid79 Hahaha. The Ipad nano. I can only imagine.

 Mr_Big_Boss

I had a Kindle Fire HD when it was released, and I had it for 3 weeks and I sent it back. It was a nice tablet, but only if you are really into Amazon Prime. I decided that since I always wanted an iPad that I would get an iPad mini because it is smaller and cheaper than the other iPads.

 ghstbstr  

Yeah, but you can still root the Kindle, and it's only a matter of time before plain Android gets ported to it.

It's a really nice piece of hardware, it just needs a better operating system. I think I could live with it though.

 DiverseGamer you wouldn't understand.

 hi-buzz with the A6x processor.  It's a shame the mini didn't launch with the new processor, then it may actually be able to compete with the Nexus 7.

 jcuffley1209 that's a year away, so probably.

 gazisultima they don't expect people to upgrade this quickly.  They're hoping the people who have been holding out will take the dive into the cult of mac.

 Angry3DSNerd ..Don't be stupid. iPod is a tiny, tiny device. This mini is the same size as other tablets in the market, i.e. Kindle Fire. It's more expensive, but I bet some iPad holdouts will get a mini.

 GH05T-666 I don't think they should be making ipods anymore.  every other device they make provides what the ipods do, plus a heckuva lot more.

 Venatorcruiser So you're telling me there's a Target/Bullseye app, and i'm not talking about mobile shopping.

Sadly, it's a one-time use sorta app.

 PixelAddict actually some  FARC dickhead shot it with a Kalashnikov trying to hit me when i was l in colombia when i was doing some work for the colombian government

 Venatorcruiser Yeah I figured it was something like that.

My comment got me thinking, though.  The iPad screen is pretty solid.  I bet a target app for dart guns (think suction, not titanium and/or poison darts) would sell like hot cakes.

 PixelAddict maybe give the ipad a bullet resistant screen and maybe they sell billions to MoDs and DoDs 

 Venatorcruiser Sounds like Gorilla Glass needs to come out with a Silverback model, complete with bullet/drop resistant features.

I think you're right.  First one who releases this would land some FAT contracts.

 q-bert39 I actually use mine for work, too.  The Numbers app allows me to enter spreadsheet figures on the go and make purchasing decisions based on calculations on the spreadsheet.

 PixelAddict  q-bert39 my i use them for my work as a private military contractor they are a great portable medium for storing intel and i can even sign up to new contracts instead of having to go to one of my company's offices or carrying a laptop everywhere i go 

 q-bert39 I use my Iphone, my Android tablet, and my iPad for work as well.  The MSP our department uses (IT) has mobile apps that lets us manage and remote into our client machines.

 q-bert39 I think you guys missed part of TC's point though. He also said "what the fuck do you do with this that the ipad 1.0 can't do?"

The answer to that is, nothing! Other than more portability and possibly a few games that will only work for newer versions. 

Everything that you guys mentioned, with using it for work, can be done on the first Ipads as well, or any other tablet for that matter. So basically, anyone buying a new Ipad simply to keep using it for the same things the first Ipad did, is, how do I put this bluntly, A MORON!

 BigAl519  

Except that anything the iPad 1 can do, the current iPad does much better.

I'm not an Apple fan at all, but ignoring the hardware changes doesn't do anything to make a point. I've got a Pentium II-266 laptop with Windows 98 and Opera 10 on it. Try surfing the internet with it. During the Netscape days, it was impossible to think of surfing the internet as a resource-hungry activity. Heck, with the power of an average PC, it still doesn't seem that resource-hungry, until you try watching a youtube video or posting to facebook with some really old hardware.

It's obviously not that pronounced in the iPad's case, but usability is certainly a factor. Apple couldn't get away with releasing so many iterations (or purposely gimping each release to give reason for the next new release) without so many people who buy the latest and greatest as soon as it comes out, but a lot of people (even non-Apple fans) do that, and not everyone that owns an Apple product buys everything they make immediately. It's just the small group of vocal sycophants on the internet makes it seem a lot more prevalent than it is.

The current iPad does more than the iPad 1 because it's much more powerful. I'm sure there are games that aren't even playable on the iPad 1 (never mind the drastically improved screen resolution). There are also other things people use electronic devices for. I use my DS, for instance, to make music with and that's pretty much it.

 MamaLukuBuku Its because most apple consumers dont know a thing about hardware, or what it actually costs. They see a sleek new shiny thingy with a touch screen and they pay whatever apple asks. They dont buy it because of the "new" (read: 2 year old) hardware, they buy it because it has a bigger number on it than the last one did.

 q-bert39  MamaLukuBuku If you can afford it, why not? Who cares? And why would you be angry about it when you're smarter than everyone else and won't buy it anyway? People just gotta hate something.

 IAMTYLERDURDEN  q-bert39 The thing is, I despise Apple, but I am a big fan of iOS devices.  My iPhone5 is easily the best phone I have ever had.  The iPad has been and still is top dog in the 10 inch tablet world, the iPad mini easily could have dethroned the Nexus 7 (which I own) and the ASUS Transformer line (I own one of those too lol), if the price point was on target.

The Kindle is junk and just shouldn't even be in the picture when talking about smaller tablets.  

Right now the Tablet world is getting saturated to the point where consumers are going to buy whatever is cheapest.  With the iPad "4" and mini, all the Windows 8 tablets coming out, I am sure another Nexus tablet and another Kindle tablet are slated for a near future release, the market is packed with crazy price points (W8 tablets and top of the line iPads) to low price points (Nexus 7 and Kindle line), and with how expensive everything is today, consumers are going to start opting for whatever the newest and cheapest tablet is.

 MamaLukuBuku  IAMTYLERDURDEN  q-bert39 "consumers are going to buy whatever is cheapest."  Not true.  Consumers will buy whatever they feel has the most added value.  If your logic were true, then everyone would own a KIA.

 MamaLukuBuku I think this iPad Mini may just be a tool to sell more iPad.. um.. Big.

"Well, if the regular sized one is just over a hundred more, why don't I just buy THAT one..?"

And BOOM Apple makes another $130 in revenue.

 MamaLukuBuku A lower pricepoint would get the device in more hands, yes, but that's not their goal. Their goal is to find that sweetspot that maximizes profits, not users.  That's why it's priced where it is.

 ad1x2 Never did understand "Apple hate." They release quality hardware on a consistent basis and they sell like crazy. If you have a problem with the company then don't give them your money. Simple. I don't own any Apple products so I don't have a REASON to "hate" them. 

 IAMTYLERDURDEN  ad1x2 Never did understand "Call of Duty hate." They release quality software on a consistent basis and they sell like crazy. If you have a problem with the company then don't give them your money. Simple. I don't own any CoD products so I don't have a REASON to "hate" them.

 q-bert39  ad1x2 That's the spirit.