Borderlands 2 pirate-themed DLC out next week

 ALCHEMYSTO I don't have a problem with the DLC business model where it is used in a pro consumer manner, and the customer is given value for what they pay for. In the case of BL2 they give you value. There are some bad parts to this DLC, but they certainly give you $10 in value imo based hours of content. The problem with DLC business model is not the business model, but how some companies use it imo. Anyhow, DLC is usually for the hardcore fans of a title, and usually those people are willing to pay a little bit more than everyone else to get more from the experience. If you are not a hardcore fan of anything than perhaps this is something foreign to you and you may or may not understand.

F2P games already rent guns to you for in-game currency, but they give you the base game for free, like blacklight retribution, or TF2. Paying for cosmetics is fine. Actually in a F2P business model that's how it should be done, so that the balance of the game isn't changed by purchasing "better" weapons/items.

Guild Wars 2 is a shining example of how MMOs can work without subscriptions. I do not like subscriptions personally, but some may find value in it, while others do not.

I agree some aspects of your statement, but this topic is not easily discussed in the limited space made available in GS comments.

 Jake518 I agree that it seems too soon to be releasing a campaign DLC. I do not know what Gearbox's strategy is but the only logical explanation I can come up with, aside from economics of the video games industry, is for hardcore fans of the series like me. I played my 300th hour of Borderlands 2 today, and have 10 characters including Gaige. I still don't have Gaige @ level 50, but she's getting there (now at level 40). This release date is great for the hardcore fans because it's perfect timing for new content, and usually the people buying the DLCs are the hardcore fans or people with more money than they know what to do with.

IMO the original Borderlands 2 vanilla without DLC is great value for money @ $60 MSRP. If you blast through the campaign and ignore EVERYTHING else (which is A LOT btw) you will probably get a good 20-30 hours out of the experience.

 tommygun6644 Yeah. They probably even released the game a week early just to make it look like the game was out longer before the DLC was released.

 Aderdunn_3 I hope by the time that comes out the online community isn't just hackers and modders. Waiting 1 year to save $30 doesn't really seem like that good of a deal to me.

 comb5  Aderdunn_3 

You only have to worry about hackers and modders if you're playing with strangers

 comb5  Aderdunn_3 Seems like a fine deal to me

 comb5  Aderdunn_3 Here's the deal. Some people do not find value in the Borderlands series, and that's why they have the GOTY edition. Hardcore fans, and people who love the game will see value in Borderlands 2 from release.

There are also those who are not hardcore fans but still see value in Borderlands 2 as it is right now.

And of course there are also those who no matter what you say wouldn't spend more than $5 on a game no matter how good it is regardless of their financial situation. They will always say a game is not worth it, and speak about a fairy tale past where "expansions were free!". My challenge to those people is to name a game on consoles up to the PS2 generation that had free expansions cause I certainly don't know of any that were free.

 sk8oridie44 I appreciate new DLC actually, I've actually completed the game, both playthroughs with all 4 characters, leveled all 5 characters to 50, working on finishing Gaige's second playthrough, as you can see, I'm getting closer and closer to boredom, this new DLC is right on time, soon I'll have new content to further my enjoyment with BL2, and its totally optional, don't want to pay for it? Don't buy it :P do you know the process of making a game? Also moderating a game, making patches, listening to feedback, etc, then they have to work on DLC and do all that moderating again. Gaige was originally gonna be in the game, but didn't make the cut, because when you initially release a game you have to copy it to discs, package them, then send them off around the world, they refer the time you send off games as going gold, so there's a dead line to what they put in those discs initially

 sk8oridie44

 I do agree with most of what you say, but there are some games I would pay $100 for, and I am a tightwad, go figure. At the same time there are some games I wouldn't pay anything for. It will continue to boggle my mind how some games that offer well over 100 hours of good content can cost the same as some that offer 20 hours at best, and still charge the same price.

 sk8oridie44 It really is a generational thing. Younger folks here just buy into whatever they're sold and don't think twice about how they're being ripped off. It's all about instant gratification and to hell with common sense

 Crazyguy105 your opinion and nothing more.

 Crazyguy105 They were all good except MOXXI'S.

 Crazyguy105 I liked Zombie Island of Doctor Ned, personally. 

 Crazyguy105 Yeah, the community at large would disagree with you.  While I think General Knoxx was my favorite, they were all good (except Moxxi)

 mboettcher  what's wrong with Moxxi?

 WCK619 

To quote the Borderlands wiki it was, "the only DLC that doesn't contain a full plot with side missions and multiple plot missions." As such, it just didn't hold my interest.  I know some people enjoyed it, especially co-op, and I really like the arenas in BL2, but compared to the other three DLCs it just doesn't stack up.

 WCK619 Oh, and nothing is wrong with Moxxi if you catch my drift.

@WCK619 @mboettcher you'll have to see the full report of her std testing results to know the answer to that. I hear it's several pages long.

 mboettcher  WCK619

 I enjoyed Moxxi's DLC.  Personally, there are times when I JUST want to frickin shoot and not deal with walking anywhere.  Moxxi's was a great change of pace from Knoxx, which I personally consider the best DLC of any game ever (Knoxx, that is).

 JaylisJayP  WCK619 Going through my game catalog now.........Yep, probably Knoxx is the best.  Other honorable mentions include Mass Effect 2 Operation Overlord, Portal 2 Perpetual Testing Initiative, and Fallout 3: Point Lookout, but none of those had as big of an impact as General Knoxx which I remember raving about to my friends.

 DeadlyCrayonz I do believe there is going to be a raid boss. Just don't use The Bee and the bosses will be more fun and challenging.

 Cube_Girl why even post here? 

 RitsukoEX  She got what she wanted, though.