LGBT equality is 'civil rights issue of our time', says Zynga

Social game publisher joins EA in taking a stand against discrimination.

Game publishers Zynga and Electronic Arts have spoken out on marriage inequality in an interview with GamesIndustry.biz.

Both publishers are among a number of companies that publicly oppose the Defense of Marriage Act in the US, which legally defines marriage as an act between one man and one woman.

In the interview, Zynga and EA revealed that neither company suffered a backlash from customers or investors over their public stance, calling it a "non-issue" from an investor perspective.

Zynga general counsel Reggie Davis referred to LGBT equality as "the civil rights issue of our time", saying that the US has a long way to go.

"There are 13-, 14-, 15-year-old boys and girls committing suicide throughout a lot of the country, because they can't come to grips in their community with being who they are," Davis told the publication.

"We're very vocal about our position, and people ultimately have an option to invest in the company or not. As long as there's good disclosure around what your commitments are at the company, then people can make informed decisions as to whether they want to invest in you or not."

Electronic Arts head of global diversity and inclusion Ginger Maseda took a similar stance.

"There have been no questions, comments, or concerns raised from our investors with regards to support for LGBT initiatives in the community or having LGBT characters in our games," Maseda said.

Laura Parker
By Laura Parker, Associate Editor

Laura Parker is the Associate Editor of GameSpot Australia. She loves adventure games, sparkly stuff, Trivial Pursuit, cake, Master Chief, earthworms, and rhetorical questions. She once stole a sandwich from Peter Molyneux.

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modernsocks 13 pts

Also, Gamespot, when it was joined with Gamefaqs, had a very anti-homosexual policy, they would delete any pro-homosexual posts and even go so far as to ban people for expressing any pro-homosexual opinion. Strange when you consider what the suffix of "gamefaqs" means.

Rayzakk 315 pts

I know whose games I'm not buying. 

cloud75x 13 pts

 Rayzakk says the gamer who owns DA2 and various JRPG's made in a country that supports equality.

modernsocks 13 pts

 cloud75x  Rayzakk Well, not being able to romance Carver meant Dragon Age 2 was a no buy. The same goes for there having been no same-sex romance options.

tmacman 59 pts

Oh no gamespot, you're opening into quite possibly the stupidest can of worms I've ever seen. Hopefully you've got the mods ready because comments are going to be rated "R".

riff_farmer 35 pts

Everyone should publicly support LBGT rights exactly because it is the right thing to do.  If you were LBGT, wouldn't it be good for you to see non LBGT persons stand up for who you are?

 

That's the kind of society I WANT to live in.  Good on anyone who wants to take a few precious minutes of their time to do that.

PodXCOM 167 pts

 riff_farmer  Oh? Well 2K Marin publicly supports LBGT and took my favourite strategy game (X-COM)  and made it into a boring FPS with LBGT-right. And all I keep thinking is: if 2K Marin wasn't about LBGT, then the game wouldn't be a boring and linear FPS.

riff_farmer 35 pts

 PodXCOM 

 

What?  That doesn't make any sense?  Are you seriously saying that the only way a game publisher can make an exciting and non linear FPS is if they don't endorse LBGT rights?

 

Obviously that is false (e.g. ME3 was decent), and it sounds borderline crazy.  All we need is one truly great non linear FPS game by 2K Marin (or any game publisher which endorses LBGT for that matter) to prove your claim false.  Many more games will be published.  Think about that. You need to carefully consider such outlandish claims.

Suaron_x 213 pts

 riff_farmerFirst, why not call it LBGTP or LBGTPB (P = Poligamist, B = Beastiality)?  Bisexual is included in your clique, and marriage is between two people.  You really can't be claiming marriage is for Bisexuals when they can't decide which sex they prefer.  The mixed up hormone theory doesn't apply to them.  Same with Transgender...what can you say about that.  Typically one gender has a greater dominance, and that person should essentially be surgically corrected to the appropriate gender, which probably eliminates the whole same sex argument for them.  Then sooner or later the crazies who love dogs, cats, farm animals are going to want in on the parade as well.

 

The concept of civil unions for LG people make perfect sense, marriage does not.  Civil unions should not be equal to marriages.  Employers should not have to cover health care for LG couples, but can if they desire.  The government should not provide tax benefits to LG couples and the states should have the right to determine if/when civil union couples can legally adopt/raise children.  The head of household recieves tax benefits for child rearing regardless of martial status and health care is available to an adopted child.

 

Marriage is a tradition that dates back thousands of years and shouldn't be changed because a few LG people feel discriminated against.  in it's simple most basic form, marriage is a celebration about procreation and for the human race to continue procreation must continue.  The government should encourage procreation and the process that creates it.  If you wish to choose a LG lifestyle, that's fine and dandy, that's your choice.  That in no way entitles you to the exact same benefits (or should I damnacles sword) as a heterosexual couple.  You can't get everything you want in life and life isn't fair.  Deal with it and move on.

 

Lastly, if you really want your LG partner to make life-changing decisions for you, you don't need to be married.  Appoint power of attorney to them and problem solved. 

riff_farmer 35 pts

 Suaron_x 

 

First, non sequitir (look it up).  Even if someone isn't sure about their sexual preference, it doesn't follow that person shouldn't be allowed to marry.  The point at issue is that the sexual preference of an individual IS NOT a proper criterion for whether that person should equally benefit from marriage.

 

Second, all your points about what sort of benefits civil unions entail are question begging.  In other words, each and every claim lacks an argument for that claim.  That is poor reasoning on your part.

 

Thirdly, in Canada marriage falls under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.  Given that Canada endorses norms of equality for all persons, it makes sense that LBGT should also have the right to marriage.  Ethically speaking, history doesn't matter.  Slavery, racism, sexism were historical practices.  that doesn't make them right. 

 

For the record I am not LBGT.  I am a heterosexual male.  More importantly though, I am a privy to rational argument.  By your account I can't say the same, and that's why your poorly reasoned argument is not persuasive.  You should take some philosophy or critical thinking classes. /end discussion

PodXCOM 167 pts

 You know I didn't have a problem with LGBT rights until 2K Marin made my favourite game (X-COM) into a boring  social commentary about LGBT! No really!

 

They didn't use any ideas or gameplay from X-COM what-so-ever. They just seem to look at every other game on the xbox 360/PS3 and said 'what is both populer and kind-of plays like a strategy game?' Then used the X-COM name as a trojan horse for LGBT. I wish I was joking.

Here's the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SH19sgisEk&feature;=player_detailpage#t=1219s

 

There's also a interview at ***gamer with Jordan Thomas, But I can't get the link to work.

My point is: if 2K Marin wasn't thinking about LGBT,  then they could've made a cool sci-fi game like Endless Space, Carrier Command, BattleZone 2, Command & Conquer: Renegade, Dragon Commander, Prey 2 or something weird. But no they made one of the most boringest and linear FPSs I've ever seen, just to give us LGBT propaganda!

mamelon2012 53 pts

Couldnt agree more hartattk.  Gotta love when people feel the need to tie in political views to everything.  Politics has polluted most forms of media as it is... leave it out of videogames

 

hartattk 14 pts

"LGBT equality is [the] civil rights issue of our time," aaaannd blatant plagiarism is the issue you're trying to hide.

 

Here's a tip: stop shoehorning relationships into games, focus on gameplay and LGBT equality wont be an issue.

kuda001 141 pts

Two soulless, faceless corporations supporting LGBT equality. Hmmm... nope, nothing wrong there.

nurnberg 573 pts

What is this?  An attempt to look politically correct in public?  Sorry Zynga, but this won't improve the sales of your horrible shovelware.

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evil-zodiark 288 pts

 Hurvl in my opinio games  should stay the hell out of politics... that shit corrupts everything it touchs ....

Hurvl 196 pts

 evil-zodiarkMaking good games is priority number one, but it doesn't hurt with a little variety, like having other than bodybuilder sized white men in the game. That all depends on the game of course. You shouldn't tailor the game to suit political agendas, but if it won't clash with the setting or story, you might consider if you want to insert a female/non-caucasian in the game who are more than just "because we needed to add X to pander to Y". No half-assed attempt if you're even considering to go outside the stereotypical boundaries. It's better that you make Gears of War 13 and make it good, than inserting some politcally correct person that feels tacked on.

evil-zodiark 288 pts

 Hurvl i agree but as you can see EA and zynga are already using politics to market their games ....

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everyday182 65 pts

 Jkillastyles75 Mate come on! ..... there not even that polite :P

Jkillastyles75 6 pts

 everyday182

 LMFAO!!!! True dat!

AhvrenStone 55 pts

How is this even an article?

Oh wait...election year.

Pyerun 185 pts

Let's see what their stance is in a non election year.

Sohereiam 267 pts

I think the article should be "EA and Zinga unites to explore homosexuals from their money"

MooncalfReviews 515 pts

Way to jump on the popular bandwagon of the last 2 years, Zynga. I mean it's nice of you and all that, but is it a publicity / popularity ploy?

Lotus-Edge 345 pts

I doubt anything will ever save rEAper's image....

kvan33 190 pts

Just another reason to have an amendment for the separation of gaming and politics.

d_khan 184 pts

What the H*LL does this have to do with games?    Do they think that people will stop hating EA besause of this?

InnerSenses 29 pts

It saddens me that a games company has to voice their OPINION on a BILL that oppresses the basic human RIGHT to love whoever you want.

kvan33 190 pts

Exactly how does defining marriage between a man and woman prevent two men or two women from loving each other?

MysteryJ0ker 124 pts

 InnerSenses

Exactly what the F*** does this have to do with gaming? Keep politics out of it. 

xwestsdeaznx 90 pts

pandering/bandwagoning to get more people to buy their games

deathblow3 243 pts

this is not news who cares what this to lame companies do at least talk about there weak a$$ games.

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InnerSenses 29 pts

 yerek7 lol... Doesn't the bible also tell you to love your neighbour? Well I love my neighbour, he just happens to lack a vagina and a nice rack.

BrazilianBud 23 pts

@yerek7 I don't know if someone updated you on that, but that was said to a people about 4000 years old. Maybe you don't eat shrimp and pork or don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric. I mean, really? In the animal kingdom, homosexuality has been seen in hundreds and hundreds of species. Hence, something natural (which means, it is present in nature). I believe God made the animals, right? Enough said.

hyperbolel 7 pts

Cannibalism, incest/inbreeding,selective infanticide is found among hundreds of species as well. Guess it's just all natural and relative then.

BrazilianBud 23 pts

 hyperbolel My argument is there for people who say homosexuality is not natural. All of the things you mentioned are natural, too, not necessarily related or socially accepted among humans. The thing is, you have a BRAIN. Use it. I believe you will be able to figure out what matters, or not.

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Gorlorin 7 pts

 yerek7 Yeah so is eating bacon but I bet you still eat it don't you.

 

sp4cetiger 24 pts

 yerek7 Have you ever actually read the bible?  You sound like one of the Pharisees.  If taken literally, the Old Testament condones animal sacrifice, slavery, and genocide.  If you're going to be homophobic, at least have enough self-respect to not hide behind the bible.

WeWerePirates 77 pts

 yerek7 If I recall that passage also say eating shell fish is also an abomination and go on to give the conditions under which it is morally acceptable to take slaves?

ERoBB 195 pts

 yerek7 Leviticus also says you shall not wear clothing of different fabrics, eat shelfish, eat meat on the sabbath, get tattoos. Why do people pick and choose which ancient rule to adhere to?

WeWerePirates 77 pts

 ERoBB  yerek7 Christianity lets you because of the belief that Jesus brought the new covenant. But in effect yeah, it's pretty arbitrary which prohibition from the old testament are maintained.

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Azujin 22 pts

 yerek7 Research indicates that children raised by homosexuals experiment with sexually aberrant behaviors at a higher rate than children raised by heterosexuals and at earlier ages, and do worse, according to a 1996 study by an Austrian sociologist, in nine of 13 academic and social categories compared to children raised by heterosexual married couples. A 2001 article in American Sociological Review reported that children raised by lesbians are more likely to engage in homosexual behavior and are "more sexually adventurous."

Azujin 22 pts

 yerek7 Homosexuals comprise perhaps two percent of the population, yet according to the Journal of Sex Research, homosexual pedophiles are responsible for 33% of all child sex offenses. Homosexuals molest children at at least 10 times the rate of heterosexuals.

AhvrenStone 55 pts

 Azujin  yerek7 76% of all serial killers come from the United States and roughly 90% show strong same-sex sexual leaning in correlation to their violence.

IshikawaS9 18 pts

Lol whats wrong with you guys? Hows this leftist propaganda being shoved down your throat? No one forced you to read it lol, so really your shoving it down your own throat. Chill out. 

 

Oh and nice try EA/Zyanga, I see what you did there. Getting behind gayrights isnt gonna change the fact that people know your whats wrong with the industry. 

thereal-15-cent 451 pts

Nice try, EA... But you could hand out free puppies and we'll all still know that deep down inside you're evil. Don't be fooled, people. EA is just riding a bandwagon, hoping that it will make people forgive their day one DLC and online passes. As soon as the bandwagon isn't popular any more, they'll jump off.

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