LGBT equality is 'civil rights issue of our time', says Zynga
Social game publisher joins EA in taking a stand against discrimination.
Game publishers Zynga and Electronic Arts have spoken out on marriage inequality in an interview with GamesIndustry.biz.
Both publishers are among a number of companies that publicly oppose the Defense of Marriage Act in the US, which legally defines marriage as an act between one man and one woman.
In the interview, Zynga and EA revealed that neither company suffered a backlash from customers or investors over their public stance, calling it a "non-issue" from an investor perspective.
Zynga general counsel Reggie Davis referred to LGBT equality as "the civil rights issue of our time", saying that the US has a long way to go.
"There are 13-, 14-, 15-year-old boys and girls committing suicide throughout a lot of the country, because they can't come to grips in their community with being who they are," Davis told the publication.
"We're very vocal about our position, and people ultimately have an option to invest in the company or not. As long as there's good disclosure around what your commitments are at the company, then people can make informed decisions as to whether they want to invest in you or not."
Electronic Arts head of global diversity and inclusion Ginger Maseda took a similar stance.
"There have been no questions, comments, or concerns raised from our investors with regards to support for LGBT initiatives in the community or having LGBT characters in our games," Maseda said.
Also, Gamespot, when it was joined with Gamefaqs, had a very anti-homosexual policy, they would delete any pro-homosexual posts and even go so far as to ban people for expressing any pro-homosexual opinion. Strange when you consider what the suffix of "gamefaqs" means.
I know whose games I'm not buying.
Rayzakk Who? :P
Rayzakk says the gamer who owns DA2 and various JRPG's made in a country that supports equality.
cloud75x Rayzakk Well, not being able to romance Carver meant Dragon Age 2 was a no buy. The same goes for there having been no same-sex romance options.
Oh no gamespot, you're opening into quite possibly the stupidest can of worms I've ever seen. Hopefully you've got the mods ready because comments are going to be rated "R".
Everyone should publicly support LBGT rights exactly because it is the right thing to do. If you were LBGT, wouldn't it be good for you to see non LBGT persons stand up for who you are?
That's the kind of society I WANT to live in. Good on anyone who wants to take a few precious minutes of their time to do that.
riff_farmer Oh? Well 2K Marin publicly supports LBGT and took my favourite strategy game (X-COM) and made it into a boring FPS with LBGT-right. And all I keep thinking is: if 2K Marin wasn't about LBGT, then the game wouldn't be a boring and linear FPS.
PodXCOM
What? That doesn't make any sense? Are you seriously saying that the only way a game publisher can make an exciting and non linear FPS is if they don't endorse LBGT rights?
Obviously that is false (e.g. ME3 was decent), and it sounds borderline crazy. All we need is one truly great non linear FPS game by 2K Marin (or any game publisher which endorses LBGT for that matter) to prove your claim false. Many more games will be published. Think about that. You need to carefully consider such outlandish claims.
riff_farmerFirst, why not call it LBGTP or LBGTPB (P = Poligamist, B = Beastiality)? Bisexual is included in your clique, and marriage is between two people. You really can't be claiming marriage is for Bisexuals when they can't decide which sex they prefer. The mixed up hormone theory doesn't apply to them. Same with Transgender...what can you say about that. Typically one gender has a greater dominance, and that person should essentially be surgically corrected to the appropriate gender, which probably eliminates the whole same sex argument for them. Then sooner or later the crazies who love dogs, cats, farm animals are going to want in on the parade as well.
The concept of civil unions for LG people make perfect sense, marriage does not. Civil unions should not be equal to marriages. Employers should not have to cover health care for LG couples, but can if they desire. The government should not provide tax benefits to LG couples and the states should have the right to determine if/when civil union couples can legally adopt/raise children. The head of household recieves tax benefits for child rearing regardless of martial status and health care is available to an adopted child.
Marriage is a tradition that dates back thousands of years and shouldn't be changed because a few LG people feel discriminated against. in it's simple most basic form, marriage is a celebration about procreation and for the human race to continue procreation must continue. The government should encourage procreation and the process that creates it. If you wish to choose a LG lifestyle, that's fine and dandy, that's your choice. That in no way entitles you to the exact same benefits (or should I damnacles sword) as a heterosexual couple. You can't get everything you want in life and life isn't fair. Deal with it and move on.
Lastly, if you really want your LG partner to make life-changing decisions for you, you don't need to be married. Appoint power of attorney to them and problem solved.
Suaron_x
First, non sequitir (look it up). Even if someone isn't sure about their sexual preference, it doesn't follow that person shouldn't be allowed to marry. The point at issue is that the sexual preference of an individual IS NOT a proper criterion for whether that person should equally benefit from marriage.
Second, all your points about what sort of benefits civil unions entail are question begging. In other words, each and every claim lacks an argument for that claim. That is poor reasoning on your part.
Thirdly, in Canada marriage falls under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Given that Canada endorses norms of equality for all persons, it makes sense that LBGT should also have the right to marriage. Ethically speaking, history doesn't matter. Slavery, racism, sexism were historical practices. that doesn't make them right.
For the record I am not LBGT. I am a heterosexual male. More importantly though, I am a privy to rational argument. By your account I can't say the same, and that's why your poorly reasoned argument is not persuasive. You should take some philosophy or critical thinking classes. /end discussion
You know I didn't have a problem with LGBT rights until 2K Marin made my favourite game (X-COM) into a boring social commentary about LGBT! No really!
They didn't use any ideas or gameplay from X-COM what-so-ever. They just seem to look at every other game on the xbox 360/PS3 and said 'what is both populer and kind-of plays like a strategy game?' Then used the X-COM name as a trojan horse for LGBT. I wish I was joking.
Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SH19sgisEk&feature;=player_detailpage#t=1219s
There's also a interview at ***gamer with Jordan Thomas, But I can't get the link to work.
My point is: if 2K Marin wasn't thinking about LGBT, then they could've made a cool sci-fi game like Endless Space, Carrier Command, BattleZone 2, Command & Conquer: Renegade, Dragon Commander, Prey 2 or something weird. But no they made one of the most boringest and linear FPSs I've ever seen, just to give us LGBT propaganda!
Couldnt agree more hartattk. Gotta love when people feel the need to tie in political views to everything. Politics has polluted most forms of media as it is... leave it out of videogames
"LGBT equality is [the] civil rights issue of our time," aaaannd blatant plagiarism is the issue you're trying to hide.
Here's a tip: stop shoehorning relationships into games, focus on gameplay and LGBT equality wont be an issue.
Two soulless, faceless corporations supporting LGBT equality. Hmmm... nope, nothing wrong there.
What is this? An attempt to look politically correct in public? Sorry Zynga, but this won't improve the sales of your horrible shovelware.
Hurvl in my opinio games should stay the hell out of politics... that shit corrupts everything it touchs ....
evil-zodiarkMaking good games is priority number one, but it doesn't hurt with a little variety, like having other than bodybuilder sized white men in the game. That all depends on the game of course. You shouldn't tailor the game to suit political agendas, but if it won't clash with the setting or story, you might consider if you want to insert a female/non-caucasian in the game who are more than just "because we needed to add X to pander to Y". No half-assed attempt if you're even considering to go outside the stereotypical boundaries. It's better that you make Gears of War 13 and make it good, than inserting some politcally correct person that feels tacked on.
Hurvl i agree but as you can see EA and zynga are already using politics to market their games ....
Jkillastyles75 Mate come on! ..... there not even that polite :P
everyday182
LMFAO!!!! True dat!
How is this even an article?
Oh wait...election year.
Let's see what their stance is in a non election year.
I think the article should be "EA and Zinga unites to explore homosexuals from their money"
Way to jump on the popular bandwagon of the last 2 years, Zynga. I mean it's nice of you and all that, but is it a publicity / popularity ploy?
I doubt anything will ever save rEAper's image....
oh lord...
Just another reason to have an amendment for the separation of gaming and politics.
What the H*LL does this have to do with games? Do they think that people will stop hating EA besause of this?
It saddens me that a games company has to voice their OPINION on a BILL that oppresses the basic human RIGHT to love whoever you want.
Exactly how does defining marriage between a man and woman prevent two men or two women from loving each other?
kvan33 BOOM
InnerSenses
Exactly what the F*** does this have to do with gaming? Keep politics out of it.
pandering/bandwagoning to get more people to buy their games
this is not news who cares what this to lame companies do at least talk about there weak a$$ games.
yerek7 lol... Doesn't the bible also tell you to love your neighbour? Well I love my neighbour, he just happens to lack a vagina and a nice rack.
@yerek7 I don't know if someone updated you on that, but that was said to a people about 4000 years old. Maybe you don't eat shrimp and pork or don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric. I mean, really? In the animal kingdom, homosexuality has been seen in hundreds and hundreds of species. Hence, something natural (which means, it is present in nature). I believe God made the animals, right? Enough said.
Cannibalism, incest/inbreeding,selective infanticide is found among hundreds of species as well. Guess it's just all natural and relative then.
hyperbolel My argument is there for people who say homosexuality is not natural. All of the things you mentioned are natural, too, not necessarily related or socially accepted among humans. The thing is, you have a BRAIN. Use it. I believe you will be able to figure out what matters, or not.
yerek7 Yeah so is eating bacon but I bet you still eat it don't you.
yerek7 Have you ever actually read the bible? You sound like one of the Pharisees. If taken literally, the Old Testament condones animal sacrifice, slavery, and genocide. If you're going to be homophobic, at least have enough self-respect to not hide behind the bible.
yerek7 If I recall that passage also say eating shell fish is also an abomination and go on to give the conditions under which it is morally acceptable to take slaves?
yerek7 Leviticus also says you shall not wear clothing of different fabrics, eat shelfish, eat meat on the sabbath, get tattoos. Why do people pick and choose which ancient rule to adhere to?
ERoBB yerek7 Christianity lets you because of the belief that Jesus brought the new covenant. But in effect yeah, it's pretty arbitrary which prohibition from the old testament are maintained.
Now that is how to troll, lol.
yerek7 Research indicates that children raised by homosexuals experiment with sexually aberrant behaviors at a higher rate than children raised by heterosexuals and at earlier ages, and do worse, according to a 1996 study by an Austrian sociologist, in nine of 13 academic and social categories compared to children raised by heterosexual married couples. A 2001 article in American Sociological Review reported that children raised by lesbians are more likely to engage in homosexual behavior and are "more sexually adventurous."
yerek7 Homosexuals comprise perhaps two percent of the population, yet according to the Journal of Sex Research, homosexual pedophiles are responsible for 33% of all child sex offenses. Homosexuals molest children at at least 10 times the rate of heterosexuals.
Azujin yerek7 76% of all serial killers come from the United States and roughly 90% show strong same-sex sexual leaning in correlation to their violence.
Lol whats wrong with you guys? Hows this leftist propaganda being shoved down your throat? No one forced you to read it lol, so really your shoving it down your own throat. Chill out.
Oh and nice try EA/Zyanga, I see what you did there. Getting behind gayrights isnt gonna change the fact that people know your whats wrong with the industry.
Nice try, EA... But you could hand out free puppies and we'll all still know that deep down inside you're evil. Don't be fooled, people. EA is just riding a bandwagon, hoping that it will make people forgive their day one DLC and online passes. As soon as the bandwagon isn't popular any more, they'll jump off.
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