New Microsoft rules prohibit users from profiting on created content

Oh, wow. 

Well, there goes your possible e-sports phenomenon, Microsoft.

What Microsoft should be doing is running an app store type of ecosystem where modders should be able to sell their maps etc for a small fee.  Then sit back and watch the xbox's fly out of the factory along with copies of games with modding tools.  Releasing development tools is one thing, but getting heavy handed with user created content is just silly.  The great thing about gaming these days is that it's such a collaborative effort, not just in a multiplayer sense, but between the gamer and the developer, this needs to be expanded not locked down.  This smacks of a decision made by a management level in Microsoft that actually doesn't understand community.  I wouldn't be surprised if there are some in Microsoft, closer to the gamers, that are fighting hard to overturn this.   They need to realise that if you're good to the gaming community then the goodwill you can generate for your platform can be awesome.  In short, throw it wide open Microsoft, you'll be pleased with what you get in return.

Well less face time means less people will see their games.  Microsoft is just undermining their sells.  I bought CoD MW 2, Way of the Samurai 3, Cortex Command, FTL Faster Than Light, Minecraft, Tropico 3, Terraria, Space Pirates and Zombies, Battlefield: Bad Company 2, Rune Factory: Tides of Destiny,and Havest Moon Animal Parade because I saw them on YouTube.  Those are just off the top of my head and not counting the games I want to buy, but can't due to a crappy PC.

If Microsoft thinks they can do better go for it.  I know it's going to cost them many times more just to get marketing to do a very small fraction of the work of that YouTubers do.  I prefer to see a player just playing the game, but hey the quality is better right?  So what if I never see it.

Microsoft fails to see these fans are just doing the work for them, for next to no money.  It's just like why my niece can't have a Spongebob Squarepants cake for her birthday. 

Fable, and Age of Empires... so.... who plays those now anyway??? And just because of that.  Even though I dont currently play any Xbox at moment or making profit either.  Just the fact they are shafting us, just makes me not want to support their content.

wow...microsoft just shafted their gamers making a bit of money posting halo gameplay. so i guess you aren't going to get tips for halo 4 mp on youtube then?

I'm actually surprised that this doesn't already exist. Not that I support it, but I would have thought that Microsoft would have initiated this program years ago. I don't see how they can get away with doing this for titles that are no longer actively worked on (AOE2 for example). I mean don't players have to sign a consent (accept terms) when they install a game?

load of crap if i want to play perfect dark and record it for future tracking of scores and such ,   i will   ms can stick their  halo up their  rear

Wow. no video reviews if its a paid subscription to the site... or has advertisements on it.  Spectator mode is now useless since Halo battles can't be used for anything. I suppose gamespot will need to remove their advertisements if they want to show any footage whatsoever of Halo 4. 

Oh, video reviews from any review website are now against the rules.  Good work Microsoft!

It's like Microsoft is trying to outdo Sony in who's the biggest scumbag console corporation that's completely out of touch with their customers.

They are only talking about people making money off the use of MS stuff. Motages and whole bunches of things are still perfectly fine, Youtube is still fine as long as you arent making money off it.

A lot of this still borders on copyright infringement when you start making money off of other peoples products anyways. This is just to tie up loose ends. Almost no fan videos will be affected by this.

And for the record, RedvsBlue have a contract with 343 to use the halo stuff anyways so it does not apply to them.

So it means we won't be seeing quality content like the famous Red vs Blue anymore, Microsoft...you are really really stupid.

Now that is really really bad, User content takes time, dedication which can be paid off by money. Sometimes good content developers need cash to create quality content, that not only makes game better, but Microsoft can also get good will and support for the game they want. Why on earth they are against this, no idea...

So wait, if I make a recording of Halo 4, then post it on a Gamespot forum that has ads on the tops and sides, I could be getting sued by Microsoft? What kind of bullhonkey is this?

 s4dn3s5 You mean make it fail harder than <b>Virtual Boy</b>, right?

Anyway, while I hate membership and subscription fees, (Online passes and paying for Live are bad business practices.) I do think Microsoft might be making a big mistake. How? Well...

1.)These videos are advertising those games. The new rules could encourage people to not bother, meaning lost advertise.

2.)Less projects to keep the games alive and prevent people from buying and selling those games used.

3.)Less revenue from live and the games because part of the money that those people got could have towards paying for the Live subscriptions and the games.

I can't wait until the newer generation takes these business suits' places...it is when I will actually look forward to games while loving the people who made them...

Wow what is the point? Does it really kill them in income for people to make a little bit of money from their creations? I understand why, but I can't believe it is such a big deal to them. Makes them look bad.

Seriously, it has to be easier than this to get bad press - couldn't they just have changed the Microsoft logo to a 666 and called it a day? At least pretend to like your fans. The only people this will absolutely piss off will be the MOST VOCAL. Idiots. 

Just when you thought stupid couldn't get stupider.

No more fucking stupid Halo montages???

Oh no, what will I do!!!

Boycott Windows8, make it fail harder than Vista.

M$ needs to learn it the hard way, enough of this bullshit

what a bad move, terrible day for us gamers. Take note M$ 90% of my games i bought them after i saw videos on youtube of others playing the game, seeing how fun it looked brought my interest  making me purchase them, im i the only that does this? i dont think so.

Dumb!...... Lots of people look at these videos..... creating hype for the games. My son just bought Mirrors Edge after seeing a youtube video about it. I would bet he would have never known about that game if this " rule " was around.

"Users also cannot post their videos on websites next to advertisements if they are making money off of those advertisements" - so in other words, any fan run website that generates advertising revenue to stay afloat.

There has got to be a way for gamers to fight back against these companies that like to make as much money from us as possible. Oh I know! Lets NOT buy their shit, blog about why we won't buy it, email them why we won't buy it, and actually not buy it.

I have been saying this for a while; Video game companies are no longer run by gamers.  They are run by business executives who do not grasp the concept of gaming.  The tighter you squeeze the more sand you lose. 

I want to make online match videos and montages of Halo 4, but I do not have to earn money off of them. I will just do it for fun and creativity practice.

What about if I use OLAH in the title of my video/content?

.......or will I get sued? (-__-)

How exactly are they planning on enforcing this stupid rule that damages a large part of their fanbase? 

Why the f*** not? 

Shame on you Microsoft!!!!! And yes I own an xbox 360

Wonder if Sony tries to hose their users this way?

Now that's terrible. A decade's worth of supporting machinima that has come to rival many television shows is now being shattered by companies that I do not even know if they have the legal right to it. What are some of the greatest machinima creators such as Rooster Teeth going to do? Where will the art form go within the 360 platform?

Oh, what's that VALVE? You have a FREE SOURCE FILMMAKER designed specifically for machinima, support USER CREATED CONTENT, and listen to the feedback of the FANBASE?

Microsoft, you might want to learn something about how to run your company here.

Two ways to solve this problem.  People can either hold off buying the game until they take these rules out, or everyone can actively and blatantly ignore the rule, making it obsolete.

So Gamespot and other reviews can't make video reviews of Halo 4 since the videos will be next to adverts etc?

So...does this in any way affect people who record games like Banjo Kazooie or Banjo Tooie (the N64 versions) in any way? I'm planning to do a LP for BK in the future (not for profit of course, all my videos are done free and without partnership with YouTube Partners)?

Well another corporation I like has lost my respect................

 sparticusjoe Well said, I never bought an Xbox because they are charging for live. Their ToS limiting what people just adds to the fire. Anyway, there's a project to create an open source version of the Windows operating system from scratch called React OS. I hope it makes more progress soon since a free open source Windows OS clone made from scratch taking away their sales would be what Microsoft deserves for their policies.

its always a good idea to get rid of free advertising!!!

also i would care only if microsoft made games that are worth a damn in the last 5 years.