Treyarch defends Call of Duty game engine

Still no bullet drop.....Or am I wrong?

I'm fine with the graphics, they still look great. I just want a 10h+ Singleplayer Story... I'm looking at u Modern Warfare.

The character models always looked really good, and the way they used baked lightng to show light and shadow ndetail on them as they walked through corridors, etc always looked nice.    most of what looked blah was the lack  of environmental detail and physics.

Do you remember days, than new game had brand new engine and only expansion packs used the same engine? Every COD game since COD4 should have been called expansion pack! Quake, Diablo, HOMM and many more means that if it has different number to it, you will get new engine!

It is also sad to see AC franchise going COD regarding graphics...

I haven't been impressed graphically since COD4.

"whats there to get upset about" im not upset i think its a class game but its so sluggish, lets have it running at 60 frames but faster paced. Sometimes realism isnt what computer games are all about, more real than real is the goal, but we forget ITS A COMPUTER GAME THEY'RE SPOSE TO BE FUN AND NOT REAL !!! thats the point your taken somewhere else. Though i applaud the realism and all achievements made in the progression of it all. :)

use frostbite 2 engine dumass cod makers

A lot of people don't seem to understand that COD's engine is still based off of really old code, they simply extended off of an already really old engine (Quake 3 era). This is why i pleaded to myself a long time ago i wouldn't buy another COD game until they alteast started top down with a new engine. Because i think it's simply lazyness on there part for not doing so.

I think they understand that COD so mainstream now that it really doesn't matter what they do, it'll still sell millions. Hence the lazyness.

The graphics in CoD are trash. You guys defending it have to realize that textures aren't everything. Other than red explosive barrels, there is nothing interactive about the environments. You can't destroy any of the structures. The physics are crap. Nobody would have that firm of a grip on a firearm while emptying a mag at fully-automatic. That snap on aim has got to go as well. It eliminates the need to lead a shot or draw a bead on anyone.

Playing MW3 again after months of playing BF3 I would sure my graphical options were reset because of how bad it looked, but everything was still on max. I'm still going to buy Black Ops 2 because I'm sure it will still be an entertaining experience but I really wish they would license Frostbyte 2 some how because it looks much better and actually has some limited bullet physics instead of everything just being hitscan.

They are lazy to invented new engine, that why.

Whats to defend?  Developers all over have been using the same engine for years.  Anyone still criticising CoD games are just introverted EMO elitists, swinging around Wii controllers and blowing dust from their PS2's with hopes of "the good ol' days" coming back...

Bottom line........Graphics in COD are fine. They are too many butthurt COD trolls that for whatever reason hate the game's success.  If you don't like the game don't play it but model for model the COD games look better than BF3 (obvioulsly BF3 is a much larger scale)  just like forza looks better than GTA. The COD games are optimized graphically just fine.  I just played the MOH Warfighter demo and that game looka and plays worse than Socom 2 on PS2.

That is funny... So funny i will not comment. 

Still... CoD's engine, in my opinion, looks better than ID Software's RAGE which was an FPS targeted for consoles, and also runned at 60 FPS too. 

I've always appreciated Call of Duty's art but MW3 did leave a bit to be desired. To be fair though , not all of the locales looked unimpressive.

To be completely honest, how many times can you pay for the same God damned game over and over again for 5 fucking years before you just get tired of it? The thing that baffles me the most about CoD is how people haven't just gotten bored of it.

Would be better if they used more realistic gun sounds like bf3

...Because you're still using the same old-ass animations for guns from 5 years ago? Because the game looks ugly as sin compared to its compatriots? Because it doesn't matter if your game runs at 60 fps if the warzone atmosphere is ruined by having no front lines at all?

Should I go on?

LOL! There's an article with exactly the same thematic last year, about CoD MW3 also defending this aged engine, comparing it to a 'Porsche'. Don't believe me? search for it.

I personally don't care, it's not like Call of Duty wants bigger maps or more athmosphere for what it wants to offer. But If I find another CoD fanboy *itching about how Valve's engine Source is outdated - it happens a lot- I'm gonna rip someone's head off.

This again? 

Well nothing much is wrong with them,THE ONLY PROBLEM IS DATED GRAPHICS.

In all fairness, are the visuals produced by this engine ACTUALLY out dated, or is it just that they haven't improved much and we've grown used to them?

TL;DR "We didn't give it a new name so haters gon hate"

This guy is wrong.  These COD games look outdated and it's the same cheesecake every release.  It's time for new consoles.  They should've made this for next gen.  BUT...time is money; milk it while you can Activision, cause COD is on its way out.

If you play on the PC it looks way outdated compared to other shooters. It's nice that it runs at 60 fps, but so does BF3 on my PC, and that game looks way better.

Honestly, I'd rather have 30 fps if it looks twice as good. I've never died or failed to get a kill as a result of only having 30 fps as opposed to 60.

From a PC gamer perspective, COD is the same year after year graphically and game play wise.  Not to mention there are no dedicated servers!  There is so much more to BF3, I don't think people realize the ENORMOUS TECHNOLOGICAL GAP between the two games. I was playing last night and am still in awe of how gorgeous the game looks and how lifelike player movements are.  Even the sound effects raise the hairs on my arm from time to time because it's so life like.

Again this is from a PC gamer perspective.  I know BF3 on a console is nothing compared to PC.  But in the same token, COD on a PC is identical to the console version.  Which is a true example of a Franchise not attempting to improve quality and pocketing profits.

And then there's the freaking people that complain "I don't want to play at a desk on a small monitor, I want to be on my couch so I can be comfortable"  I play my PC on my 55" LED in my living room!!!!!!  All it takes is a little creativity.  But then again, the type of people that defend what COD has been doing are too lazy to expand their options and are forced to defend the limited tech they use.

OH....AND I PLAY BF3 AT 97 FPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!