Wii U launching with 23 games

 emptycow lol you are still here bashing the wiiu damn you need to get a life

 emptycow 

I'll see your Uncharted and raise you Zelda.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9uYCU8jFiU

Sure it's just a tech demo, but most likely the actual Zelda game will look even better than this.

 emptycow Yeah its preetty. But dont compare launch games to games more than 5 years into the consoles life. They had more than enough time to learn how to juice every last drop of power from the hardware. Lets get back to this in a year or two.

 Sleepyhun1  Don't even waste you're time arguing.The same people who say the WII U's graphics suck compared to Xbox360/PS3 will turn around to a pc gamer and say "graphic's aren't everything" when they say pc is superior.They just have to spew garbage even if it's not the truth.

@kennythomas26 It's based on the current Transformers tv series of the same name.

 JonythanD  kennythomas26 alright thank you, I guess I won't be interested in that game then.

 tgwolf yeah because they did not follow sony and actually made some money of the last piece of hardware.

 Elaisse  tgwolf but they lost all the 3rd party devs   if you dont support 3rd party then your dead in the water ask the dreamcast nintendo better hope that control gimmick sells systems

 emptycow  Elaisse  

The Dreamcast had good 3rd party support, you don't even know why it was pulled from the market. 

Even before the Wii U, Nintendo still has had support from several 3rd parties so I don't know where you get this claim that "they lost all the 3rd party devs". 

 emptycow  Elaisse  tgwolf Again, another foolish comment.

You probably weren't alive during the Dreamcast Era to say that crap.  Dreamcast had a berserk amount of Third Party Support and a vast amount of library titles, better than N64/PS1 and just as good as PS2.  They declared bankruptcy after sour investment deals.

Was that your pathetic attempt to compare Wii to the Dreamcast?  Poor job if so.

In fact, you are abysmal.

 Elaisse Games already have better graphics than the Wii U on PC, Sony or Microsoft just need to make a console powerful enough to run them.

 ZiRa-Bosnia is elder scroll anygood.

i remember when i bought my ati video card they gave elder scroll 3 as bundle. never really played. anyway are the new elders better ?

 wclef  ZiRa-Bosnia I don't have Skyrim yet, but Oblivion is MUCH better than Morrowind in my opinion. 

 AyatollaofRnR

 If every launch title was brand new, people may be skeptical about buying games of which they have never heard.  From a consumer stand point, having these ports released will make gamers more comfortable in investing in games they recognize.

 CivilizedPsycho  AyatollaofRnR 

Plus since 3rd party support has been an issue with Nintendo, I feel like these 3rd parties are using these titles to see if the Wii U will have a large enough hardcore audience that's willing to buy their games, and Nintendo is wise to give them the spotlight for now to build that support on both the consumer's side and the developer's by not overshadowing it with their 1st party titles.

 abHS4L88  CivilizedPsycho  AyatollaofRnR Hopefully that is the case.I feel like the WiiU has a limited window to establish itself or the arrival of the next Sony and MS consoles make it irrelevant. 

 AyatollaofRnR  abHS4L88  CivilizedPsycho If those big shots at Sony and Microsoft don't out systems with high price tags and force an increase in game prices to offset developer investment, I'll cast my lot in with the system that won't break my bank. I'm still not convinced by the more power garbage these people on inhaling. As a game consumer, I would prefer if these guys spent more time honing their craft on a system to squeeze every last drop out of it. Way I see it happening is, next systems will probably reach 1080p @ 60fps, but watch how many games will be struggling to hit that mark and the scores that will attempt to do things that are meaningless but consume lots of clock cycles and wasting power and not really looking all that much better or performing worse.  Seriously it happened this generation, you can count on two hands all the 1080p @ 60fps games on both consoles, but these are so called HD systems(upscale city) Wii U will most likely be a True HD system, lol. That's so funny to even say. I want some Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Wave Race, Smash Bros. and more and all without letterboxes and stupid black bars on the sides. Hooray!

 SavageEvil  AyatollaofRnR  abHS4L88  CivilizedPsycho all xbox 360 games were 16;9 they are only letter box on 4;3 tv sets reason for that is if u try to fit a 16;9 image on a 4;3 tv you lose the left and right sides of the image in other words go buy a real hd tv dude... and you do know xbox 360 could make all its  games both 1080p and 60fps but its a trade off  to get to that level you have to lower the graphics bar it will be the same thing on the wiiu

 AyatollaofRnR  abHS4L88  CivilizedPsycho Its gota pretty decent window. The new xbox and ps will take time for the developers to be putting out graphics above the current stuff.

 emptycow  SavageEvil  AyatollaofRnR  abHS4L88  CivilizedPsycho the GPU in the 360 OR PS3 can't output 1080p man, wtf are you talking about? The maximum output is 1080i for both Graphics units.   60fps is possible with games like Call of Duty and God of War 3, but they're running under 720p.  You made a point and one point only.

The consoles can only run in 1080i and 60fps combined if it were a small 2d title, not taking advantage of the chipset in either console.

Those consoles can't output in 1080p, and it isn't the same as 1080i, regardless of how you feel about it.

 emptycow  SavageEvil  AyatollaofRnR  abHS4L88  CivilizedPsycho Did you just claim PS3 was able to output a true 1080p "IMAGE", that WiiU's games are all 720p, then shared a video about Wii U that has NOTHING to do with any of those claims LMAO.  This video has NOTHING to do with anything you've said.

EDIT:  You just erased that post ROFL...that cracked me up.

You said: "WiiU's games are all gonna be 720p anyway, and PS3 was able to output a 1080p image!  See, here's proof!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FM8qfSlNkg

OMG

 alrepairs  SavageEvil  AyatollaofRnR  abHS4L88  CivilizedPsycho dude the ps3 can put out a true 1080p image end of story the xbox 1 could put out a 1080i image i think the ps3 is a little more powerful then a xbox 1  test have been done on the ps3 years back it can do a true 1080p image and has done it many many times mgs4. uncharted etc end of story wiiu dont impress me at all  98% launch games  dont run in true 1080p they are being upscand and even if they were true hd who cares im waiting for the real next gen not this crap

 alrepairs  SavageEvil  AyatollaofRnR  abHS4L88  CivilizedPsycho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhP6gG2XpUY looks better then anything on wiiu

emptycowSavageEvilAyatollaofRnRabHS4L88CivilizedPsycho

I have no idea what an upscand is.   PS3 is far more powerful than Xbox 1.   

I take it you don't even have an HD PVR 2.  Because if you did like me, you'd know in this video the game isn't being PLAYED in 1080p native.  Rather, It's being captured and CONVERTED into VIDEO format in true 1080p.  Nice find, but FAIL.

How many times will you lose :(.

 alrepairs  SavageEvil  AyatollaofRnR  abHS4L88  CivilizedPsycho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je7rSPw-M2o   cool story bro but ps3 can do true 1080p not for all games but it did for this one

 alrepairs  SavageEvil  AyatollaofRnR  abHS4L88  CivilizedPsycho

 i have not saw one game that can top that part in mgs 4 it looks like pure cgi

 emptycow  SavageEvil  AyatollaofRnR  abHS4L88  CivilizedPsycho Are you a crack baby or something?

Stop saying "Cool Story Bro" and know what the HD PVR is..are you insane?

http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr2-gaming.html

It lets you record crappy resolutions and convert them to true 1080p video to upload on youtube.  Those aren't IN-GAME 1080p graphics fool.

 alrepairs  SavageEvil  AyatollaofRnR  abHS4L88  CivilizedPsycho

 i have the game and it looked the same when i played it on my tv so whatever

 emptycow  SavageEvil  AyatollaofRnR  abHS4L88  CivilizedPsycho No it didn't.

Anyway, HD PVR2 is a cool device if you want to see True HD video playback.  Buy it.

 AyatollaofRnR I hear y'all I did pre-order the system, but I have been second guessing it ever since.

 kennythomas26  AyatollaofRnR 

Just know that this is just the launch window and the rest of the great games are sure to come. Nintendo's giving this launch to the 3rd parties to build support so that they'll be encouraged to create more exclusives or at least include the Wii U in their upcoming multiplatform games.

 Paper_Mario_4 nsmb will drop on launch date so be impressed

 CivilizedPsycho And it is actually backwards compatible.