For the first time, and hopefully not the last time, we have two guests sitting on the Verge couch. Former Apple hardware designer Tony Fadell (now CEO of Nest) talks about working on eighteen generations of iPods and early prototypes of the iPhone. And Chris Grant gives us a look at what his new video game site could have been called if he didn't get Polygon.com.

Paul announces that he is leaving the internet, Nilay makes some Kickstarter funding suggestions, Josh reveals what Instagram is doing with a billion dollars and everyone comes out to play a little Johann Sebastian Joust. Watch the full episode below, followed by a ton of clips, in case you want to share some with your friends.

Oh, and make sure you check out our musical guest Animal Style on 8bitpeoples, and File Freakout.

Full episode:

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Directed and Produced by: Chad Mumm
Production Manager: Nina Sokoler
Senior Producer: Creighton DeSimone
Segment Producers: Billy Disney, Jordan Oplinger,
Sam Thonis, John Lagomarsino
Editors: Billy Disney, Jordan Oplinger
Executive Producers: Chad Mumm and Joshua Topolsky

Special Guests: Tony Fadell, Chris Grant
Hosts: Joshua Topolsky, Nilay Patel, Paul Miller
Musical Guest: Animal Style

Lighting design: Matt Piercy for Vibrant Design
Makeup: Imani Wright

Opening titles: Misha Shyukin

Additional Music: "Lame FAQs," "Antibiotics Bitch,"
"Arps and Arcs," and "Bit Scrape" by Animal Style

Filmed at BMCC Tribeca Performing Arts Center