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Ryan Callahan of govols247.com analyzes how Tennessee's known 2013 commitments rank in the new 247Composite index announced by 247Sports on Monday.
Four of UT's 15 commitments have four-star ratings in the 247Composite and Tennessee currently ranks 24th in the team list.
See his full analysis on govols247 in a free access article. Below are links to several of the new 247Composite lists generated from 247Sports' massive database of players and recruiting information.
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Comments » 60
Stokes44yrs writes:
I think I'd like 247? But I won't pay for it. Too many more important things to pay for .lol
Besides I can get most of this info free somewhere. I personally hope 247 does well though...seriously I do.
Go 247 Go vols
hueypilot writes:
A local radio station here in Jacksonville was evaluating Muschamp's 2013 class and I think they had Florida rated 3rd and hinted at a few more commitments this week. 17 of the 18 commits they said were four star or above. It just keeps getting tougher in the SEC
arkyvol writes:
i daresay that there isn't one fact printed inside the 247 firewall that isn't in the public domain within hours. as for opinions, you could equal quality from the comments scrawled on the doors of the stalls in the student center.
arkyvol writes:
i note that along with the like of vandy and kentucky, the vols are in the same neighborhood with the hogs. that's no shocker. the hogs aren't known for their recruiting prowess, but they've been able to cover up their lack of talent with superior coaching. if that doesn't scare you, there's no hope.
keepitreal4vols writes:
per 24/7 article "It also allows literally thousands of prospects to be ranked, something that sets 247Sports far ahead of any other network covering recruiting"
Then why does 3 of our commits have N/A? Again, your pay site stinks.
crappieking writes:
I agree. I will take Petrino and his Offensive prowess next year.
Big_Orange_Aide writes:
I think I will give Dooley a little more time to get this situation on track before I turn to the likes of Petrino. That guy might take a program way, way down.
CCLC writes:
Let's put it in perspective:
Team ▼ Total ▼ Five Star▼ Four Star▼ Three Star▼ Avg ▼ Points ▼
1 USC Trojans USC 18 4 14 0 96.19 784.98 ▼
2 Michigan Wolverines Michigan 23 1 18 3 91.37 767.27 ▼
3 Alabama Crimson Tide Alabama 18 1 13 4 91.29 762.55 ▼
4 Florida Gators Florida 21 1 13 7 90.37 761.93 ▼
5 Ohio State Buckeyes Ohio State 16 1 10 5 91.62 759.87 ▼
6 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Notre Dame 17 1 14 2 91.68 752.53 ▼
7 Texas Longhorns Texas 14 0 12 2 93.10 749.30 ▼
8 Auburn Tigers Auburn 17 3 7 7 89.93 748.31 ▼
9 Georgia 23 0 13 10 89.38 747.31 ▼
10 Jordan Jefferson LSU 21 0 16 5 90.00 744.68 ▼
11 Texas A&M Aggies Texas A&M 27 1 14 12 88.29 744.09 ▼
12 Clemson Tigers Clemson 16 0 9 6 89.54 738.65 ▼
13 Florida State Seminoles Florida State 16 0 11 5 89.94 734.38 ▼
14 Washington Huskies Washington 18 0 9 9 87.36 727.69 ▼
15 South Carolina Gamecocks South Carolina 20 0 6 13 86.07 716.11 ▼
16 North Carolina Tar Heels North Carolina 17 0 7 9 86.55 710.96 ▼
17 Virginia Tech Hokies Virginia Tech 15 1 2 12 87.32 708.12 ▼
18 Ole Miss Rebels Ole Miss 19 0 5 12 83.91 701.57 ▼
19 Baylor Bears Baylor 19 0 2 17 84.68 700.05 ▼
20 Oklahoma State Cowboys Oklahoma State 15 0 5 10 86.18 694.66 ▼
21 Maryland Terrapins Maryland 18 0 3 15 83.88 694.35 ▼
22 Virginia Cavaliers Virginia 16 0 4 12 85.82 694.31 ▼
23 Penn State Nittany Lions Penn State 12 1 4 7 89.15 694.18 ▼
24 Tennessee Volunteers Tennessee 15 0 4 11 85.95 693.68 ▼
25 Missouri Tigers Missouri 14 0 5 9 86.17 689.66 ▼
26 Vanderbilt Commodores Vanderbilt 15
Currently UT is behind 3 teams from the East and 3 from the West, slightly ahead of Vandy and the Zoo
keepitreal4vols writes:
#9 Georgia got a nickname?
#10, where's Jordan Jefferson University?
Did KNS proofread your list?
CCLC writes:
I'm sorry.... my cut and paste glitched. I think it was an ESPN post. But, since we are following the rude tenor here. I shall answer in kind.
1.#9 Georgia got a nickname? Yes, Tennessee's Daddy.
2. #10, where's Jordan Jefferson University? Louisiana.
There .... "now we can be friends again"
CCLC writes:
3.Did KNS proofread your list?
No .... they know some azzhat will do it for them.
CCLC writes:
just sayin'
RockyTopRenegade writes:
Lessee....the face for 247 is Rucker. His nickname for the coach of the team I cheer for is "Doolander". His twitter comments make fun of the kids that Coach Dooley and Jason Witten are helping scholastically at the YMCA. Thanks, but no thanks boys.
Go VOLS and Coach Dooley!
UTistheOLEMISSoftheEAST writes:
And the Gators are loading up.
arkyvol writes:
hate to say it, but it looks like vol fans are gonna be looking up at the bulk of the conference for a long, long time. hammy was a complete joke when it came to hiring coaches (come to think of it, he was no great shakes at anything else). hart hasn't blown me away either, but i suspect he will be able to get the hot prospects to at least return his calls.
thevoice writes:
Not gonna win too many SEC CGs coming in 8th in the SEC recruiting wars, unless we have a staff that can out-coach the others.
CCLC writes:
so if I read you right .....0 outta 2 huh?
vol4gzus writes:
bullpup lost it's way? CCLC = continual chatter losing cleverness........uhhh signing date is next Feb to all in the'sky is falling mode'...yes if classes were signed today Vols have an oops....but they aren't so we type back and forth...
vol4gzus writes:
OH cclc....staff is made up of some new faces so can't make that blind call yet at least....that's why they play the games....ding donng the with is dead....the wicked witch is dead.....
vol4gzus writes:
with = witch with a lisp....as in ding donng the WITH is dead
DeltaCharlie3 writes:
Yep, bout' to be business as usual with UF dominating the league again. UF's defensive class is just crazy good.
killdevil writes:
Do any of you have anything better to do than over analyze. Just let them play then run your traps.
Griswold writes:
People get way too wrapped in recruiting rankings. The difference between 10 and 20th in the country is usually about 0.2 avg stars per player or two extra commits. Not as big deal as some make rankings out to be. Comes down to coaching, schemes, and hitting on more players than missing. Remember Bryce Brown and David Oku.
CCLC writes:
I don't think the gators rebound so quickly. "Elite, but not elite. Successful, but underachieving.”
volpreacher writes:
agree. And what is not figured in is the fact that if a team such as UT has a really good year, which I think they will, and someone else won't do as well, these kids can change their minds which they often do as we all know too well.
CCLC writes:
Well, you are not in Kansas anymore. The Pumpkin King is gone and the nineties are in your rear view mirror.
just sayin'
Stokes44yrs writes:
ok I think I'm lost? Which way is the govols site? Where's the UT fan site? Can anyone direct me please? 247? huh?
JUST KIDDING KNS!
Go UT
vol4gzus writes:
Thanks Dorothy.....ToTo misses you....Tin Man is a lil cranky......Richt isn't cowardly...watch them straw men with grain issues...nice Charlie Brown Great Pumpkin reference.......
thevoice writes:
Yup
John_10065 writes:
He's a snake, always has been, always will be.
John_10065 writes:
If you told anyone at the start of the 1997 season that UT would win the BCS championship making the Seminoles look like a bunch of whiny punks in the process, they would have laughed at you until they passed out. Talent means a lot but chemistry tops all. Recruiting is just a measure of potential talent. As long as we are in the top 25 in recruiting we will always have a shot at the national stage.
It's up to the players and the coaches to make it work. There's a lot to the good lately and some to the bad but if stats and rankings were the only measure of success, there would be no reason to even play the game. We'd just tally up the points that might mean something and declare a winner.
I'll wait for it and cheer every Saturday in the Fall for the orange and white like I always have.
BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:
Uhhh, NSD isn't real close..Besides, UT will win many games this year and sway some more big recruits before it's done..Have some faith and patience, bro..GBO!!
BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:
I saw rivals had UT at 16th..ESPN never rates UT as high as Rivals or score for that matter..Just twist the story to make UGA look good, troll..GTH!
VolFanInTheBoro writes:
in other words you proofread it
just sayin
the_dooley_eVOLution writes:
We have a long way to go with this recruiting class. The two-star guys will have to drop off. We should ALWAYS finish with at least ten four-star guys in a recruiting class. If we're gonna challenge for SEC titles, we also have to land five-star talent.
RockyTopRenegade writes:
Woof!
oldster writes:
I am somewhat disappointed with the ranking. However, I recall how many highly ranked kids Kiffen brought in and how few amounted to anything but trouble. I would rather have kids brought in that stick around for 4 or 5 years and contribute in the last year than those busts. An example I would give would be the walk on program that made Nebraska under Tom Osborne so great. He took a bunch of local kids with zero stars (sound familiar) put them on the weights and nutrition for two or three years and walla - very good offensive linemen. Could this be the Kendrick kid? He is big. He is athletic. He is a good kid. Let's hope for him and us.
oldster writes:
Yeah! I'll do his divorce for free and help pay for his girl friend as long as he agrees to stay off the motorcycle.
oldster writes:
Either that or have coaches that evaluate better than the recruiting services do. I think some coaches rely on those services or just recruit the highly rated guys to look good and win the recruiting wars and really do not evaluate the players (Lane Kiffen comes to mind - sometimes Phil Fullmer seemed to have suffered from this as well).
oldster writes:
And that last minute Kiffen coup that he stole from the Gators that could not even catch a punt, much less return it, and tried to steal a guy's sandwhich with a toy gun?
oldster writes:
I would like to point out to everyone that UT's most recent National Championship in football came 47 years after the next most recent one. It has only been 14 years now. However, even if it is another 33 years before another, well, I still think we can enjoy the team if we just give it a chance. Why? Because I followed the team for most of those 47 years without a national championship and enjoyed most of them - even the Bill Battle years thanks to Condredge Holloway. So come on guys. Enjoy what we have. Life is too short to waste it complaining all the time.
ClabosFake writes:
I don't know if stars mean a great deal either. They don't seem to mattered much with Petrino. I will say this, if we're going to throw the Kiffin bait out there to disprove the star system and the possibility that we might be losing out in the SEC talent wars (just a possibility), then you've got to balence it with the sure fact that Miles and Saban have also been some pretty "starry eyed" recruiters. They seem to have done okay.
In any event, we'll put our chinstraps on this year with 19 returning starters and find out just what kind of a coach we have. If Coach Dooley, with this schedule, wins 9 games or more, the Fulmerites will take care of themselves. If he wins 7 or less, the Fulmerites will be the least of his worries.
mountainbrook writes:
They need to considering the disaster that Muskrat's first recruiting class has become.
Awsomeorange writes:
There are several highly rated recruits that are high on UT right now. Once they see the Vols are makin strides in the right direction we will definitely get our share. But i have seen plenty in the past with 5 stars and all everything when they come in and cant get off the bench. I'll take a good 3 star that works his tail off over lazy blue chippers that wants everything handed to them. If you build it Coach, they will come...GO VOLS lets start that climb
DeltaCharlie3 writes:
You mean the next Percy Harvin?
I argued and argued with people on this site that Nukeese Richardson was a solid prospect, but needed a redshirt year, and even then shouldnt be counted on to do anything until about his 3rd year. But no, many didn't want to hear that, he was the next Percy!
Stokes44yrs writes:
While I know there are 4 and 5 stars who ARE lazy and want handouts you can also say there are 2 and 3 star athletes who are lazy. They maybe are a 2 or 3 star because of that laziness or maybe lack of desire or training...whatever. There are also 4 and 5 star athletes who are that because of maybe great coaching or hard work...Wheaties...who knows?
This is why stars do not necessarily tell you what you're getting in an athlete.
The real hope is a combo of all this ...coaching , desire, hard work ethic, physical attributes, physical conditioning, nutrition good restful sleep, no beer. etc...
You can't recruit all players by the star system. I don't deny though that it seems like it helps and I hope to see some more 5 stars come in here.
govolsn3 writes:
Remeber these are verbally comitted and the list will always be changing, so take care of business during the season and get this new facility done when the kids come to the games and UT will climb right back up where they are always going to be. You can't hide money and by the way the football training facility is looking it is a place to spring right up to the NFL so here comes the 5 stars. It is just that simple.
CCLC writes:
Good post.
CCLC writes:
Kiffen has USC ranked in the preseason top five in any poll you care to look at. He has been at his job the same amount of time as SOD (son of Dooley) has.
just sayin'
Griswold writes:
We were at 26 with rivals and moved up to 16 (now down to 18) when they rated 3 guys previously unrated. There was a 3-star and 2 2-stars. That just shows the difference between 26 and 16 isn't much at all.
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