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    Lunch Turns Into Lecture Over Co-Worker's Big Tip

    DEAR ABBY: My co-workers and I recently went out to eat and I was put in an awkward situation. One of them announced that I had left a big tip when I paid my bill. Abby, I always leave a generous tip. I was raised well below the poverty line, and my mother's tips literally determined how much we would be able to eat that day.

    The co-worker who said it became upset with me and began lecturing me about how "rude" it is to leave a large tip, especially when you're with other people. She even said it "degrades" the server.

    My mom may have raised me differently than most people, but I was taught that it's OK to leave a big tip as long as you don't announce it to everyone. Was what I did considered rude? -- GENEROUS IN CONNECTICUT

    DEAR GENEROUS: No. The person who was rude was your co-worker, for making a spectacle. She probably did it because your tip made hers appear to be stingy. Diners leave tips based upon the quality of the service they receive. If you felt your server merited it, you were right to leave a large tip.

    P.S. I have never heard of a server feeling "degraded" because of a large tip. Grateful, yes. Degraded, never!


    DEAR ABBY: I am dating a man, "Cameron," I am crazy about. We plan to be married next year once I finish college. There is just one issue that's stressing me. Cam's apartment is gross and messy. There are dishes from various dinners scattered all over the place. I find it disgusting, and I'm worried he will be like this after we're married.

    I have tried to talk to him about it, but he gets angry and says that it's his place. He says he'll be neater when we're married. I'm not sure I believe that.

    This seems a silly thing to cause discord in a relationship, which is otherwise going well, but I am concerned. Is there anything I can do? -- GROSSED OUT IN BLOOMINGTON, IND.

    DEAR GROSSED OUT: Yes, there is. You can face the fact that once you marry Cameron he is still going to be the same person he is now -- sloppy, messy and defensive when you point out something that needs improvement. People don't magically change after they say "I do." If you love him enough to accept him just the way he is, and be the primary housekeeper after you're married, you may have a happy union. If not, put your foot down now.


    DEAR ABBY: Many years ago I shoplifted a $30 item from a department store. Now I'd like to clear my conscience and make amends, but how?

    I want to remain anonymous, so I can't send a check. Sending cash by mail seems unwise, and even with Google I have been unable to find a corporate address for an appropriate division. Can you help? -- ANONYMOUS IN THE USA

    DEAR ANONYMOUS: Because you have made an honest effort and haven't been able to come up with an address to send the money, try to find out if the department store sponsors an activity for charity and donate to that. Or, alternatively, give the money to a charity of your choice, which may salve your conscience and do a good deed at the same time.


    Dear Abby is written by Abigail Van Buren, also known as Jeanne Phillips, and was founded by her mother, Pauline Phillips. Write Dear Abby at www.DearAbby.com or P.O. Box 69440, Los Angeles, CA 90069.


    Good advice for everyone -- teens to seniors -- is in "The Anger in All of Us and How to Deal With It." To order, send your name and mailing address, plus check or money order for $7 (U.S. funds) to: Dear Abby, Anger Booklet, P.O. Box 447, Mount Morris, IL 61054-0447. (Shipping and handling are included in the price.)

     
    • Lee Rowan  •  2 days 1 hr ago
      Grossed out -- DO NOT MARRY THE SLOB. He sounds like my ex-husband... who claimed to have all kinds of good intentions and never changed an iota. RUN, do not walk. Cameron will expect you to be his Mommy and pick up after him.
    • Chris  •  9 days ago
      I wonder what would happen if LW#1 got together for lunch with the gentleman who kept thanking all the waitstaff, much to the chagrin of his lady.
      • Enigma 9 days ago
        It's possible the politeness overload would kill three waiters and a cook.
      • Chris 9 days ago
        The perfect storm of generosity and gratitude. Add a giant lizard and Mario Van Peebles and it could be a low budget SyFy movie.
      • Enigma 9 days ago
        Add Will Smith and it might be the next Men In Black movie.
    • Chris  •  9 days ago
      LW#1 - Your co-worker is cheap. Seeing you leave a large tip made her feel bad about herself so she decided to tear you down to try to assuage her feelings of inadequacy.
      • Enigma 9 days ago
        Now, now, she's not cheap... she's money-giving challenged!
      • Chris 9 days ago
        He should have asked her how much of a tip she left and then outed her for being overly frugal (tightwad)
      • Enigma 9 days ago
        Hah! That would have been amusing.
    • Angie  •  9 days ago
      L#1 Reminded me of the hotel we just stayed at......we stayed one night and in the morning I asked where the tip evelope was.....So I left a tip, my son who has his first job doing kitchen work and deliveries walked by an equaled what we left.....He said 'Mom, I do dishes, and I don't always get tips for delivery....that lady has to clean toilets/showers and make my bed, I won't ever forget what others are doing and appreciate it.....' when my younger son saw it he got ready to say something before he could my oldest cut him off 'You'll get a job in a few years, just you wait until it's your turn. And next time mom asked you to do a chore, shut up and do it without the whining about it, I wish I had of.'....... he's a good man, I can't call him a boy anymore :)
      • Angie 9 days ago
        He barely breaks even on the gas some nights, and he has a good boss that pays him extra for the gas, but somedays he isn't making anything, just breaking even......somedays he gets enough in tips to get ahead a little but like we tell him, that covers the gas not the wear and tare on your car. Though I did tease him I knew one of the perks he gets is the fun of getting paid to drive his Mustang.....He just smiled after he recovered from my mind reading ability...... ;p

        I bet that delivery guy won't forget you :)
      • Angie 9 days ago
        Yeah...it's a good teen job :)

        One of my favorite jobs was being a chashier.....Doesn't sound like much, but I really liked it.....even the stresses weren't so bad, especially when you live a high stress life.....Zip, zip, bag....Was a real no stresser...Ahhh......even grumpy customers didn't really bother me, ah you should meet ___, I'm related to them, you are just someone I may ever see again...Have a nice day :)
      • OuterLimits 9 days ago
        I have a lot of respect for parents that are raising such fine human beings, Angie. It was a pleasure just to read your post. Your son sounds like a very good guy.
    • flip  •  9 days ago
      #2 - The Magic 8 Ball says "He has no problem living in a clean home as long as you're willing to do ALL the cleaning. If not, I see roaches in both your futures".
      • Ula ✠ 9 days ago
        It is decidedly so...
      • Donna S. 9 days ago
        Think a few years ahead-----his mess all over the house ( if he leaves dishes, there has got to be dirty socks) dirty diapers, kids toys scattered ( kids picking up his bad habits ) you coming home from working, and facing another 6 to 8 hours cooking, cleaning, laundry, Get the picture? Now, picture yourself asking him to pick up his dirty dishes. Hummm...
      • flip 9 days ago
        Messy I can live with. Gross is a health hazzard. The only plus I can see is maybe a visit from Billy the Exterminator (I have such a crush on him).
    • Rick S  •  Denver, Colorado  •  9 days ago
      LW1 Here's a tip for the friend, "stop being an idiot" . And, I just want to go on record as saying that anyone may feel free at any time to degrade me by giving my large sums of money. I can handle it. Really. I'll be okay with that. Degrade away. Lots of money is my kind of degradation. Cash, checks, money orders, gift cards...I can be sufficiently degraded by any of them.
      • Rebecca M 9 days ago
        I only accept cash degradation.
      • Spawn32f 8 days ago
        hey rick s how is the fires out there is it getting better or worst i hope your doing ok..
      • Bud 6 days ago
        Please oh please degrade me! (G)
    • MC  •  4 days ago
      I waited tables on and off for much of my adult life. I put my self through school waiting tables and made ends meet when I was laid off. Trust me - I never once felt degraded when I was left a big tip. LW1's coworker is cheap and rude and I recommend never socializing with that person again.
    • Dee ☃  •  9 days ago
      "He says he'll be neater when we're married."
      Haaahahahahaha!!! Let me guess...he also says these gems:
      "She's just a friend."
      "I'll just put in for a second, then pull it out"
      "Sorry. I must have left my wallet at home."
      "I'll call you."
    • Don  •  7 days ago
      LW#1 - "What I leave for a tip is nobody's business but my own." Learn it, repeat it when necessary.
    • AstraDaemon  •  Traverse City, Michigan  •  9 days ago
      LW#1: I had something similar happen. I went to lunch with some co-workers & left a generous tip because I was very happy with the food & service...when one of my co-workers saw the tip I left, she took her tip off the table & said that she didn't need to tip since I tipped so much. I never went to lunch with that person again.

      To this day, I try to tip at least enough to buy a gallon of gas, regardless of my bill's total because I always think the tip might be the difference between whether or not someone can get to work/home. If I'm so broke that I can't leave a decent tip, then I don't need to be dining out anyway.

      I think your office co-worker is sniffing paint or something. ;)
    • Elizabeth  •  9 days ago
      I was a bartender at a VFW when I was in my early 20's and was working toward my master's. A guy named Earl used to stop in every so often to have a tall fountain Coke at the bar. He was a single Vietnam vet who just came out to be sociable and have some conversation. He always left me a nice tip but one time he gave me $20, said "Put that in your gas tank", and then walked out the door. His Coke only cost $0.90. Like Abby said, I didn't feel degraded, only thankful.
    • Katherine D-J  •  9 days ago
      On what planet is a big tip "degrading"?! Opposite world?!
    • ConMcCarty  •  7 days ago
      Only a loser would make a scene about leaving a large tip.
    • Sir VG  •  9 days ago
      I think the only person degraded by LW#1's actions is the co-worker!
    • PreviousClient  •  7 days ago
      LW #1 - GENEROUS IN CONNECTICUT - I would never go to lunch with that co-worker again. I'd pretty much write them off, period.
    • Redhead  •  Cleveland, Ohio  •  7 days ago
      LW#1 - Accept that you are the housekeeper, and don't be surprised when Mr. Right works against you to make the place even dirtier. If you are going to work full time after the wedding, see about having a cleaning person help out once every two weeks or so. The price will be worth your sanity.
    • Rick S  •  Denver, Colorado  •  9 days ago
      LW2 - forget the mess. This is what you need to worry about, "I have tried to talk to him about it, but he gets angry and says that it's his place." Reall? He gets angry about this? Either he's got a short fuse over minor stuff or you're not approaching him very well or too often. This is what Cameron is....a slob. Figure out how to get crazy about picking up after him or reevaluate your plans. He and, you will not change just because you're married.
    • damaris  •  9 days ago
      LW1- Coworker is mad that you showed her up. And she's stupid rude to make a scene over it.
    • Rebekah  •  7 days ago
      LW1--I think Abby hit the nail on the head; your co-worker was being cheap, and wanted you to join her so she wouldn't be the only one leaving a bad tip. Of course, the fact that she felt the need to look at your tip in the first place was incredibly rude. Next time this happens (assuming you're willing to dine with her again), why don't you suggest calling the waiter over to see which tip is "degrading"; that will probably shut her up realy quick.
    • hallmonitor  •  Dallas, Texas  •  9 days ago
      LW#1 - Your co-worker is not worried about the server or you. Your co-worker is worried that your large tip makes them look bad. The co-worker made a huge stink trying to make you look bad so no one else will think that they are cheap. I'm telling ya, if someone protests too much, it is about them...not about you.
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