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    Couple Have Had Their Fill Of Dinner-Time Socializing

    DEAR ABBY: We have been having a problem with a young neighbor couple in our rural area. They drop in to visit us about five evenings a week. They're nice people and good neighbors, so we don't want to offend them, but what would be a diplomatic way to tell them we don't want company that often?

    The husband gets home from work at 4:30 p.m. every day and his wife always has dinner on the table when he walks in the door. My husband is 62. He works hard 10 to 12 hours a day and returns home anywhere between 5 and 7 p.m. So it's not possible for me to have dinner ready and waiting. Our idea of a pleasant evening is eating dinner, watching an hour or two of TV, and going to bed about 9 p.m.

    My husband has to drive by these neighbors' house on his way home, so they know when he gets here -- and they usually arrive shortly thereafter. I feel very uncomfortable cooking a meal and eating with non-eating company in my kitchen, so I always put dinner preparation aside and visit with them for an hour or two. It's not unusual for us to wind up having dinner at 9 p.m. Sometimes they stay so long my husband and I are too tired to even bother.

    We have about had it. How can we regain our privacy but remain friends? -- MISSING DINNER IN MISSOURI

    DEAR MISSING DINNER: You and your husband have been such good neighbors that you have made yourselves prisoners in your own home. The next time the couple arrives at your door at dinnertime, in a pleasant tone, say, "John just got home from work and he's tired and hungry. Please excuse us while we have dinner. We plan to retire early. And in the future, don't just drop by -- please wait until we call you."

    DEAR ABBY: My husband, "Ted," and I have been married for four years and have a 3-year-old son. Before we were married we talked about having at least two children.

    After our son was born, Ted went through what he believes was postpartum depression. He wasn't prepared for the reality of having a baby, and it was hard on him. To his credit, he got through it and has been a fantastic father to our son.

    He now says he doesn't want any more children. We are financially stable, but Ted says it isn't the money. He just doesn't want to go through it again.

    Abby, I can't imagine not having one more child. I know I can't force him to change his mind, but I'm afraid I will resent him for denying me something I want so badly, especially since we had agreed ahead of time.

    I feel there is no compromising on this. Either way, one of us is going to be miserable. I cry all the time and don't know how to move on. Can you help? -- DREAMING OF TWO IN TACOMA, WASH.

    DEAR DREAMING OF TWO: I wish I could, but not knowing the cause of your husband's anxiety and aversion to having another child, I'm at a disadvantage. You should both talk this out with a licensed marriage and family therapist, and I hope you'll do it before you become further depressed because your current mental state may adversely affect your ability to parent the child you have.


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    • Mia  •  3 days ago
      LW1; My grandfather had the perfect way of getting rid of guests. He would stand up & pleasantly announce "Y'all are welcome to stay as long as you like but I'm going to bed." And then he did just that!
    • Don  •  4 days ago
      LW#1 - Would it be rude to say, "we can't invite you in right now. We're going to have old people sex." Because I'm thinking that would solve the visiting problem permanently.
    • Marcus  •  5 days ago
      I am surprised at you Abby, you should have taken a page from your mother's and aunt's play books and advised Dreaming of 2 to discuss adopting a second child with her husband.
    • Mike  •  11 days ago
      "Please excuse us while we have dinner. We plan to retire early. And in the future, don't just drop by -- please wait until we call you."

      I can pretty much guarantee no normal human being in America would ever word something so strangely and boorishly as this, most notably the last sentence. It's a pretty sure-fire guarantee that anyone tactless enough to say something like this would instantly make enemies of the neighbor they're trying to be polite to. Why Dear Abby always makes these odd wording mistakes is beyond me....
      • Rebecca M 11 days ago
        My thoughts exactly, and you expressed them perfectly.
      • Bex McGex 11 days ago
        Early retirement. :)
      • MeechieD 10 days ago
        "Mike"- that is so funny, but you are right!
    • Teri L  •  San Diego, California  •  12 days ago
      Missing can visit the neighbor while both husbands are at work and have a nice heart to heart talk. Be honest and explain it's too difficult to entertain 5 nights a week. Stop resenting them every time they show up uninvited on your doorstop and speak up!! Because you haven't told them, they think it's ok.
      • Chris 12 days ago
        Excellent advice
      • new ol'lady 12 days ago
        They're either lacking social skills or they don't care so keep dropping by for "a few minutes" and stretching it to three hours.
      • Ajay 12 days ago
        I was like the neighbor once. I would visit a friend and keep on conversing. The friend is polite. He would reply briefly and not ask anything or volunteer information. In a few weeks I got the hint and restricted myself. We are still friends.
    • Bart  •  11 days ago
      Is it just me or did anyone else believe Abby's advise to Missing dinner was just a little rude? The writer didn't say she never wanted to see these people again. I have had this happen to me as I am sure most of us have and I handled it the following way. : "Oh wow, I wish I had known you were stopping by, I am just not prepared for guest. I hate to run but I need to get back. Have a great evening. " We didn't offend anyone and still left the offending party with some amount of dignity.
    • voiceofreason  •  Los Angeles, California  •  9 days ago
      LW1: It amazes me that people that are having their lives intruded upon have a fear of "offending" the intruders. Speak up!
    • Dee ☃  •  12 days ago
      "Ted went through what he believes was postpartum depression."
      Wait til he goes thru menopause and starts having hot flashes.
      • Chris 12 days ago
        I wonder how his labor pains went over
      • GetYourOwnName 12 days ago
        Women go the doctor. Men go the Porsche dealership.
      • Chris 12 days ago
        Porshe, there is no substitute ; o
    • DebZam  •  11 days ago
      If you can't run them off, I suggest putting the younger couple to work. Next time she's over ask her if she'd mind unloading the dishwasher or folding that load of clothes before they wrinkle (since you are busy fixing dinner). Hubby can get the young man to help with cutting the yard, changing the oil, or wiring that light switch. They will either become more scarce or more appreciated. Just a thought!
      • DB 11 days ago
        Brilliant!
      • Blueskye 11 days ago
        DebZam-what DB said! :)
    • Chris  •  12 days ago
      LW#1
      The next time they show up unannounced and uninvited hand one of them a vacuum cleaner and the other a toilet brush.
    • Toeless_Joe_Jackson  •  Amarillo, Texas  •  11 days ago
      #1 "Well, I guess I'll go to bed so y'all can leave" is a nice way to say get the hell out.
    • GaltJohnGalt  •  9 days ago
      LW1 - Really? Try this: "How nice to see you. We can only visit a few minutes because Ralph has to get dinner and relax after a long day's work." If they are especially dense say " ya'll have to go". It is incredibly hard to insult people these days, they just need to be told.
    • DABOMB  •  11 days ago
      #1....Open the windows, close the curtains and vocalize the loudest orgasms you can muster. Throw in a few one liners while you're at it. ("Not the fur mitts....anything but the fur mitts.)
    • checkers  •  11 days ago
      LW#1: I agree with Abby up until the last sentence, which I feel is unnecessarily rude. I'm sure given five mintues of thought the writer could come up with something along the same line but in a kinder vein.
    • podunk  •  Sunnyvale, California  •  11 days ago
      Missing Dinner- good grief- just don't answer the door if you don't feel like company that night! Or better yet answer the door wear a towel...and smile and say , now's not a good time, I'm sure you understand, wink wink, see ya later. A few times of that, they will make themselves scarce.
    • rigger  •  Paris, France  •  9 days ago
      I wonder if the 'young couple' thinks they are being nice and sociable to the 'elderly couple' down the street and they are just too caught up in their own sense of generosity to realize they are being a pain. I can't imagine why they would want to visit another couple every night of the week and give up all their own privacy as well.
    • Apple  •  Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania  •  11 days ago
      How about this for LW1...the wife should let her hubby know the plans and "drop by" when she knows the younger wife is making dinner for HER husband...and stay throughout the meal. then when her hubby is driving home, "stop in" and visit with them until they're ready to leave. Trust me, when the tables are turned (and when younger hubby is either putting off his mealtime or feeling awkward for eating in front of non-eating guests) they will think twice about just dropping by. Oh, and make sure she brings ALL the photos from her kids' childhoods, her grandkids' childhoods....and relate every single little story. When it's "time" for them to leave, let her state, "Oh, well, we didn't get through them all, I'll be back over tomorrow."
    • SAW  •  11 days ago
      LW2: Listen to Abby and get thee to a a therapist. If your crying all the time then you are affecting the child you already have and putting a lot of stress on your marriage. Neither are good. Your dh feels he can't handle another child, do you really want to put him and -both- your children through that? You have one healthy, lovely child. Focus on how much happiness you get out of him for now.
    • jk  •  11 days ago
      LW1... Just don’t answer the door. If they ask you later why you didn’t answer, just tell them you don’t answer the door during your dinner. I grew up with this rule and continue this rule in my own house. I don’t answer the phone or door.
    • new ol'lady  •  11 days ago
      Dreaming of Two: Abby's advice is sound. The two of you should see a family therapist. Your feelings of betrayal and resentment need to be addressed, as do the causes of your husband's "baby distress" and concomitant meltdown.
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