Warhammer 40K designs used in Command & Conquer

I want a remake of the 1st C&C; before all the technology started to go futuristic and over the top.

suffer not the thief to live.

And one other thing. Don't ever use him. He's too expensive and brings nothing to the table other than fail and preventing units from fleeing.

@beast70 Except it wasn't retconned. They just never expanded on it. I am of course assuming your talking about the Tau tzeentch dude. They don't care about the Tau enough to get around to expanding on them. Space marines are what sells, so that's what they focus on.

the topic was models being stolen nerds.

@Vangaurdius source books are not wrong... obviously what you said has been retconed.

@crissy14 How is it wrong? I'm pointing out whats incorrect and defending my viewpoint without being rude. I have a life, it's why responding takes me a while.

they could have changed some turret locations ffs XD I can draw and I can make something like the baneblade only different enough to be "kinda" original COME ON.... hire me I can save you I will even work for food...:P

I'm a casual gamer, i'm not a die hard fan of neither starcraft nor war40k, but even a blind man could see sc was inspired from war40k universe. Starcraft has 3 playable races and all 3 look like the war40k counterparts. That's not a coincidence. The ppl that say starcraft isn't inspired from war40k, either they can't see the difference between a cow and a vulture, or they work for the blizzard legal department. @Vangaurdius.... Get a life, get a wife, do anything!....Jjust stop doing what you do now 'cuz it's wrong.

@beast70 Except that's wrong. It serves as an alternative to warp travel with significantly less chances of being eaten by a daemon but a much higher chance of getting lost. Much of the webway is destroyed and in addition to it being very much like a maze this makes travel difficult. They are also limited by the gates which they don't know how to create. Any attempts they have made to alter the webway always resulted in failure with the webway destroying the changes. This limits their mobility. It is not instantaneous either. But it is faster than any other means of travel because it doesn't suffer the limitations of real space, nor the fluctuations and currents of the warp.

@Vangaurdius You must be a troll....... or you never read a chaos, tau codex.... and yes the web way let eldar cross the galaxy instantly... it's stated in the battle fleet kronus, rouge trader source book.... it even says eldar have a huge advantage of moveing through the galaxy instantly with the webway... which is why it says they are so good at hit and run and stealth.

wow the heretics at EA must be cleansed and sanctified, to steal empirum secrets so boldly.... the insolence... I here by order an exterminatus on all EA HQs, send forth 10 inquisitor battle ships with full escort. and remember brethren... the Emperor protects.

Typical EA you have beaten this C&C; horse forever let it go and come up with new ideas, or do as you always do and buy a smaller game company with bigger and better ideas than yours, ie Westwood (The cycle starts again)

Viva la subcontractor!

And before you mention it. The reason why the imperium hasn't showed up in tau space frothing at the mouth about daemons when it comes to ethereals is their connection isn't like that of a pysker. It just seems like it's something drilled into their heads that the ethereals must be protecting at all costs. However, when an ethereal is in danger all the Tau in the vicinity know even without any communication. There have been a few stories (official stories) written about this and how they all came surging to protect them disregarding all discipline in a blind fury to kill the attackers. They didn't even communicate it in any traditional sense. Also, the lore states that the tau's "religious" head is a servant of tzeentch. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

@sinex1983 I am well aware of that and even mentioned it already. But that powers waned now. And as I already stated, he knows that it will be a repeat of the past if the other gods learn of it, hence why he's taken the more subtle approach. I know that the Tau don't have a warp presence. THAT'S WHY THERE ARE THE ETHEREALS. Holy god, do I have to put everything in all caps. And I SAID THE WARP SPIDERS DO TELEPORT! And never talked about terminators teleporting. I never said NOBODY TELEPORTS EVER. I'm getting at the fact that the Eldars strength isn't teleporting everywhere. The warp isn't so much teleporting as it is getting somewhere faster, much like warp travel is Star Trek. They can't instantaneously cross the galaxy.

@Vangaurdius GW has stated on multiple occasions (in print and online) that Tzeentch is the most powerful Chaos God, but his power is prone to mutability -- making his strength transient, but devastating. It's written in various places that, prior to the "modern" 40k setting, Tzeentch was so strong that all of the other gods had to stand against him in order to prevent his preeminence. Which, of course, is what led to his shattering of the Crystal Staff. Keep the practice, buddy.

@Vangurdius You need to learn to tell the difference between "Lore" and "Wild fan speculation". Just because you clearly know very little of Tau lore, that doesn't mean your unfounded speculative fanfictions are true.

People have been ripping off Warhammer and Warhammer 40K since... FOREVER. (cough-Blizzard-cough-Warcraft-cough-Starcraft-cough... To be fair, I enjoyed their early games even while noticing the blatant rip-off... ...former partnership or no.)

And I thought recolored Sonic characters where the lowest form of plagiarism, I was wrong.

Identical. Lame.

@parrot_of_adun those information are P&C.; I think you might able tofind some articles regarding to that in PCgamer mag sometime 1998. I remember reading blizzard was planning to acquire GW licence.

Wow, they copied everything, right down to the heavy stubbers on the sides. I can hear that conversation now, "Hey man, this concept looks exactly like the Baneblade." "Bane-wha? You're crazy, I don't even know what that is..." "Uh, there's a model of one on your desk dude." "Whaaaat? When did that get there, who's is this?" "-Sigh- Well f*ck it, we've got a deadline to keep..."

Yo EA: the C&C; is dead, just burry it.

Good, Gamesworkshop is even harder than EA and Activision put together when it comes to their legal team. I sincerely hope Gamesworkshop sues EA so much that EA gets reverted back to the Stone Age.

@Vangaurdius warp travel is teleporting lol it's even said so multiple times.... when temi's teleport they travel through the warp for a fraction of a second :P also the eldar being failures is a joke you must not have got... it's a joke because recently the eldar have lost almost every major battle even alot in there own codices. Edit: also the tau thing must be a joke :P tau don't even have a warp presence which is why they can't be corrupted.

@beast70 The mention of teleportation would only hold weight if WH40K had any originality in using it, they didn't. This is my biggest point here; most of the stuff you mention was done earlier by someone/something more influential than either series. Like I said, they're both just influenced by many of the same things.

@ y3ivan That was Warcraft, not Starcraft, allegedly. Though I couldn't prove it to be honest, I haven't been able to find any verifiable evidence Blizzard EVER had any business with GW, despite rumors. I appreciate any evidence you might be privy to, though. I'm interested in finding out the truth about these... rumors.

Next up: The Oliver Evans estate sues all car manufacturers for using 4 wheels and an engine in their designs...

Anyone surprised? EA hasn't had a good idea by themselves in years - Of course they copy from others. But when gamers copy their products (and get to play them Origin-free), they burst into tears like five year old girls.

HERESY!! KILL THEM ALL!! (if only it was that easy..)

Also, their technological progress had occurred when they were cut off by the warp storm. Before the arrival of the warp storm they were primitives and the Imperium ignored them, considering them not worth the effort to deal with. Then the warp storm arrives and when it dissipates they had progressed at an astounding rate and continue to do so.

@ragnar320 Various reasons. The Tau aren't aware of it however. The ethereals might be, because they might very well be daemons of tzeentch, if not then sorcerers. The warp storm served as a convenient cover for tzeentch. Knowing that the other 3 are idiots, he placed the Ethereals (whom the various races that make up the Tau had only recently met when the warp storm arrived) and has them building up the Tau empire. It will be a very long and slow process, but as we all know, Tzeentch is very patient. He knows that through this clever manipulation it is unlikely anyone will suspect his plan. The greater good is never explained, and there's quite a lot of speculation (both in the lore and not) that many of the Tau themselves do not know what it is. Sounds like something Tzeentch would do right? Furthermore, Tzeentch knows that his power is incredibly weak compared to the others, it is the nature of himself and his followers that causes this. Any build up noticed by the others would result in a repeat of what happened in the past when one grew too strong. It's why he is being very careful with them, manipulating them through but a few whom he can easily control.

@Vangurdius the tau are most defenitly not followers to tzeentch at all. how the hell is the god of change and magic anyway related to an alien race with more advanced technolgy than the imperium and lives to serve the "greater good"

Copyrights. Serious business.

@beast70. I was more referring to the Eldar being failures. They weren't, they just learned the hard way how gods come about. Also, the webway is hardly teleportation. That's like saying using warp travel is teleportation. It isn't. It simply allows faster travel, not instantaneous. Also, the Tau are servants of tzeentch.

Brothers and sisters of Nod, no longer can we tolerate this blasphemy upon our favored franchise. Our day of reckoning is nigh. Together, we must rise up from our trenches, our bunkers, our factories, and deliver Command and Conquer from the tyranny of EA. One vision, one purpose, in the name of Kane.

So... Most tanks look alike... This looks pretty similar to the Mk. VII used in WW1 with the addition of an additional front gun and a top turret. Congrats to both, you ripped off WW1! Wonder if that has copywrite protection too...

So similar. I wonder if deliberate or accidental. I if it deliberate how did they not expect people to notice. If its accidental how can you NOT see it now and acknowledge it.

EA probably can buy better lawyers then GAMES WORKSHOP :/ But if THQ and GAMES WORKSHOP sue EA they might have a better chance.

@electroflame lol I seen that aslo :P

@Vangaurdius tl;dr your 1st post but no eldar do heavily use teleportation... it's called the webway system even in all dawn of wars they tele in every single unit! and don't try to teach me about 40k i'v read almost every codex and played almost every game..... I know damn near every thing about it besides tau.... no one likes the tau :P oh and what part of what I said was retconned even in the new necron codex it says the eldar were a minion species to the old ones...

@tachsniper Er, what? I think you meant to direct your comment to the post below mine.

Please, Games Workshop, take on EA. I would love for you guys to to give them whats coming.

The Eldar do not use their teleportation abilities heavily. The only ones who do are the Warp Spiders. The Eldar rely heavily on manipulation, guerrilla warfare, and technological superiority. Their downside is the lack of manpower. And don't even get me started on the tyranids. The tyranids aren't a weapon like they are in Starcraft, they are like a natural disaster. Passing from galaxy to galaxy consuming all life. They don't do it because they seek anything. They do it because that is there way and how they survive. As much as I dislike Starcraft and their lack of originality, I do have to give them props for at least trying.

@beast70 Ignoring how painful that was to read most of your information is wrong and has since been retconned. The eldar were very successful. They had built an empire that stretched from one side of the galaxy to the next. They had no enemies that could oppose them. They began to delve deeper into their desires, and it was through their excess that they brought about the birth of a god. Despite starcraft shamelessly ripping off WH40k, the terran marines are a lot different than the Warhammer ones. They are extremely biologically altered and do not use stims. Their armor is also linked to them through another layer of skin added. The weaponry they use is also very diverse. Their are multiple different types of bolters alone. Let alone plasma, flame, and laser based weapons. Terran marines also serve as front line infantry. The Adeptus Astartes do not. They are a small but elite force specialized in rapid strikes in areas absolutely vital to the enemy. They fight and adapt to the situation using the plethora of technology at their disposal along with the support of the other branches of the Imperium. The majority of the time they act as a support and special forces unit striking at where the enemies most important assets are while the Imperial Guard does the front line fighting, relying on sheer numbers and massive tank and mechanized divisions to crush the enemy. As for bolters. They do not shoot bullets. They shoot rockets. They are literally fully automatic rocket launchers

Is that why both series have turned to garbage for the past 5 years, they are working off of the same awful material?

@parrot_of_adun umm eldar were a failed experiment of the old ones so thanks for making me remember that so ya I guess there is more after all.... also nids gaunts and zerglings look the same they both have hiveminds, both use complete biologic tech. also fail on you the eldar don't accomplish anything there the biggest failures in 40k.... and Terran marines and Terran space marines look the same also there both in huge power armor and rock huge .99 cal rifles and use combat stims and why couldn't a human fit in the armor? P.s. i'm pretty sure I never said teleportation is unique to 40k... I said that eldar and protoss use it very heavily.