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Mass Effect 3 ending OK'd by UK ad bureau

Advertising Standards Authority says claims of individualized finale to sci-fi trilogy were not misleading; EA says ending variation takes place over final 3-5 hours of gameplay.

The UK Advertising Standards Authority has weighed in on complaints about the ending of Mass Effect 3, saying that Electronic Arts' promises of player decisions shaping the conclusion of the sci-fi role-playing trilogy were not misleading.

After Mass Effect 3's March debut, fans vocally expressed their distaste for the endgame, saying the conclusion (which was capped off by one of three largely similar cutscenes) did not support player choices made over the course of the trilogy. Specifically at issue for the ASA were claims on the game's website that player decisions "completely shape your experience and outcome," and "drive powerful outcomes, including relationships with key characters, the fate of entire civilizations, and even radically different ending scenarios." Before ultimately concluding that the ad was not misleading, the ASA explained its position.

The ASA acknowledged the complainants' belief that players' choices in the game did not influence the outcome to the extent claimed by EA. However, we considered that the three choices at the end of the game were thematically quite different, and that the availability and effectiveness of those choices would be directly determined by a player's [Effective Military Strength] score, which was calculated with reference to previous performance in the game(s). We also acknowledged that there appeared to be a large number of minor variations in the end stages of ME3, and that those were directly impacted by choices made by players earlier in the game(s). Whilst we acknowledged that the advertiser had placed particular emphasis on the role that player choices would play in determining the outcome of the game, we considered that most consumers would realise there would be a finite number of possible outcomes within the game and, because we considered that the advertiser had shown that players' previous choices and performance would impact on the ending of the game, we concluded that the ad was not misleading.

Electronic Arts also offered its own defense of the ad, telling the ASA that it considered the ending of Mass Effect 3 to take place over the final three to five hours of the game, and not just in the very last cutscene. A portion of the publisher's spoiler-filled explanation follows below.

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[Electronic Arts] said the effectiveness of the choice made was also dependent on the EMS score, for example whether the main character "Shepard" would survive and whether the Earth was destroyed. They said there were also a large number of other, more minor, variations. In particular, they explained how the outcome of the Geth/Quarian Campaign and the Genophage Campaign would impact on the cinematic experience at the end of the game, and the implied end state of the player's story. They said that characters who had died during previous games in the series, as a result of player actions, would not be present in ME3, and that other actions in previous games could also lead to the death of supporting characters in the game.

A Better Business Bureau representative said in April that Mass Effect 3's ending had been falsely advertised, but the US group differs from the ASA in that it has no legal authority to impose sanctions on companies.

Regardless, BioWare is revisiting the ending of Mass Effect 3 this summer with free "Extended Cut" downloadable content intended to expand on the RPG's endgame through "cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes."

Brendan Sinclair
By Brendan Sinclair, Senior Editor

Brendan Sinclair has been a games journalist since 1999. His tastes are eclectic, though he has a definite affinity for games with arcade roots. He's Canadian, but has also been at home in Atlanta, Austin, Chicago, and San Francisco.

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edmond_villamor 13 pts

People who are saying that they are boycotting EA or Bioware games are clearly childish. So what? when the next Dragon Age game comes out with a review score of 9 or higher you won't buy it? Get real. I hate the ending but its another bad business decision. I had a hell of a time playing the content so I still enjoyed the game. Lets face, people will always whine about something.

 

Skyrim: "lots of bugs. won't buy another Bethesda game at launch"

Max Payne 3: " DLC for maps? are you kidding me?"

Diablo 3: "Day one launch fail"

Crysis 2: "No Dx11? Is this the year 2011?"

 

so on and so forth.....extended cut is coming so I hope this will somehow calm the masses already.

chronos_ss2 5 pts

I don't care who is saying what, or who people want to blame or crucify for this ending but I will say this.... when I went through the ME3 endings, I had a vivid image of a horse walking and releasing all of its excrement through its rear at the same time...

MattyWoah 5 pts

It disgusts me to see people complaining that EA should be held liable under consumer protection laws for the end of ME3.  Those laws were put in place to protect the health and well being of consumersfrom products that may pose danger.  A bunch of whiners out there trying to legitimize the ending of a video game as a violation of these laws is an absolute abberation, and does no good for anybody.  All these claims do is stifle innovation and instill fear in the entertainment industry.  Its time for some people to reevaluate whats important to them.

L0s3rx 6 pts

People really are overreacting about the ending. Boycotting BioWare, EA, and any of their subsidiaries doesn't help the gaming community as a whole, and BioWare consistently puts out quality product. Going as far as to try and open a lawsuit against BioWare is absolutely ridiculous. I don't care how much you claimed to love Mass Effect (as a whole) - you can get over it, and enjoy the rest of the game as opposed to having the rest of the spectacular game ruined by a five minute cutscene. That's just immature and stupid.

Max_160 52 pts

 L0s3rx it's not immature and stupid. we were promised 16 different ending that influence the outcome of the final battle. we were even promised a final boss. however we did not get a boss and only 3 lousy cut scenes with different color explosions and same exact outcome of everyone dying with the mass relays except the Normandy. compare that to ME2. in ME2 ending you had tons of choices. either you die and your teammates live leaving Joker to talk to Illusive Man. Either you live and everyone die and deny Illusive man and his wants. or everyone survives but you obey tend to agree with Illusive man's ideas leaving you renegade. In ME3 it's the same ending no matter what you do or how you do it. it's fuckin bullshit and the promise of 16 different endings was just a troll stunt pulled by EA. wherever they put their filthy nose they ruin the franchise. partnering with EA or Activision is like signing a treaty with the devil himself.

MattyWoah 5 pts

Your ish is weak kid.  How many times had Peter Molyneux promised features that weren't delivered?  It ABSOLUTELY is immature and stupid to immediately blame EA, play the greed card, and call them 'the devil'.  How do you KNOW it was an attempt to defraud consumers in the name of profit?  with all the whining we see regarding this games ending, it sounds like theyre not making a huge profit.  Dream bigger than the endings of video games, kid. Max_160

 
cephas90 43 pts

Never buying EA again, and since Bioware is a total EA sellout... Well.  Yeah.

mini_mario 9 pts

Bravo, Brendan.

Video Game Franchise Ending = More than 15 minutes.

Once again, mixed feelings about the ending and its... credibility? Or dedication from developers? Still, I respect their development choices and accept the ending, and the incoming summer DLC.

zintarr 45 pts

We are sick of the ME3 ending...it sucked monkey balls now move on and never buy EA/Bioware again!

xsonicchaos 168 pts

THE guy that worked on Baldur's Gate 2, Neverwinter Nights and Dragon Age Origins talking about what BioWare has become under EA.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/03/17/former-bioware-designer-brent-knowles-on-day-one-dlc-and-the-mass-effect-of-public-relations/

Also, my favorite phrase of all time: "It's akin to comparing old-style bunker PR defenses to new blitzkrieg-style consumers."

Vokail 5 pts

I actually really enjoyed the ending. The first time I didn't quite get the ending I wanted and it was very heart-wrenching with getting to know all of the characters.

 

I just wish there was an epilogue, which is what I'm hoping is to come.

Bubbagum_Bish 9 pts

OMG! They're still defending the bad ending? Who the balls cares anymore?! Move on Gamespot, we know your butthurt will always be there. :)

wexorian 100 pts

@solidus2_1 said thats's whole pint i kow that warden can survive even in canonical Story But every hero sacrificed themself In dao 1st time i bet , and i liked it Like i liked WHole 1,2 Mass effect endings especially 2nd suicide mission.

Goldrock 21 pts

yeah ending wasnt the greatest but i wont let a 5minute ruin my great 24+ hour journey to that end qq more please.

slashpen 12 pts

The ME3 ending is okay to me. Not great but it's just fine. I don't find it a big deal about the ending. Adding the extended cut might just add to some few scenes and is just like watching a movie on a extended cut or directors cut. Anyway re-playing it over again when extended comes out is just another time to spend if it was just few additional cinematics so I might just watch it on youtube if I don't have time to play it over again... :)

JimmeyBurrows 86 pts

lol, there was no need for an investigation, stuff does change, it's just not shown very well... I'm willing to put it down to last minute change of the ending and give them the chance to fix it... Not that releasing a piece of crap is okay instead of moving the deadline, but that's what you get with EA. Well done to bioware for talking their way into fixing it rather than EA just flushing them down the bog and saying no one will buy anything now so you're worth no money to us now.

xsonicchaos 168 pts

 JimmeyBurrows Everyone who says that he wants Mark Meer to act for free, just for his pleasing, is a nut. I'll sell my kidney and wont eat for a month, just to see what goes on past this "ending".

Hughmanoid 18 pts

ME3 ending OK'd by me as well.

everyday182 20 pts

I Use to call people who would pick up a book and read the end before they decide whether to buy it or not, I called them stupid I did......Not so much any more ^_^

JimmeyBurrows 86 pts

 everyday182 I would... because if you played the end of ME3, hardly anyone would play the rest of the games and would therefore miss out on some pretty fun games, just because the ending was a bit naff.

MinerAvatar 51 pts

 JimmeyBurrows Kind of everyday182 point isn't it? Once you do see it first hand, you never want to play the games again. It really does suck all the fun out of the entire series! I am glad ME3 has MP it is all I play from ME3 when they get new MP content, however it does get boring quickly since it is only one mode (horde). Wait till it drops to $20 and then it is worth it. The first two games are cheap and do have good fun parts to them, too bad I will never replay them since I know they mean zero in the end. Funny how 10 minutes can ruin an entire franchise.

powerman1426 11 pts

 MinerAvatar "funny how 10 minutes can ruin an entire franchise" How true, to have put so much effort into the rest of the series and then phone it in at the end? Why leave the hard work and dedication behind?

 

PrescottCav14 5 pts

Liked the game and the ending, still not sure why all this backlash happened. Also, I think it's a shame Bioware is taking this much flak from people who didn't enjoy the last thirty minutes of a 100+ hour franchise. Even if you didn't like the very end, you have to admit everything leading up to it was fantastic quality. It's upsetting to see so many people condemning quality work just because of a controversial resolution.

Enundr 47 pts

 PrescottCav14 the ending had very little quality , and the ending of a trilogy is always big (not sure how many youve seen but they surprisingly are) , and i played ME1 - ME3 , as well as got all the DLC , that ending (and its only 1 even though they have you think there are more then 1 , they are all the same just with different colors) , the rest of it was good. like i said trilogy endings are generally bigger then you might realize.

Ghosthunter54 44 pts

 PrescottCav14 That's kind of the reason the ending had to be excellent though, because there was so much that was great.  Can you imagine Star Wars: Return of the Jedi ending as soon as the Death Star blows up? Without that scene with Han and Leia where she tells him Luke is her brother, without the party, without the celebrations across the galaxy, without Luke seeing ghosts of Ben, Yoda, and his dad?  Can't skimp on the endings of awesome trilogies.

JimmeyBurrows 86 pts

 Ghosthunter54 Bit of a poor example, the end of that was pretty pants as well. Ending it at the deathstar would help it a lot.

GetDaved 6 pts

Remember kids: If your ending sucks just change the definition of the "ending" to not mean "the part where the story resolves itself" and instead "the minimum amount of good content before the story resolves itself to water down the crap".

hboedijo 8 pts

 GetDaved excellent definition ! (thumbs up)

xsonicchaos 168 pts

OK then too, from us. When C&C; Generals 2 or other Bioware game comes out we'll just have to say this to them: "No, no no, dudes. Fool me once... you know how it goes. Show me the ending first..."

gamer_dej 6 pts

the only thing bioware is guitly off  is advertising about how every decision you take affects the gameplay in a unique way then drops this at the very end still i'm not upset beacouse i'm one of the few players that liked the ending they made and for those who say that it wasn't a logical ending maybe they didn't understood 'the philosophical side" of the story and i think most people are upset beacouse the variety of choces at the end was very limited.be happy ME fans beacouse they are fixing it now but i only got one quesption: What if this end "sucks" too, then what?

Enundr 47 pts

 gamer-dej  theyre not actually "fixing it" theyre just filling in the plot holes , ie its the SAME endings just with some added scenes.

hboedijo 8 pts

 gamer_dej You are absolutley right....you're one of the few...the very few in fact...

JamesX007 15 pts

 gamer_dej Not sure any Philosophy Side can explain why people you took with you down to the planet appears on the bridge of the Normandy....  That is just bad writing, and it is systemic throughout the game.

Enundr 47 pts

its funny , i keep reading several things about game sales being down and other such things , are they REALLY surprised when you see the kind of thing like ME3 brought? how a poor quality game was thrown on the shelf and sold and after the gamers bought it and beat it to find all the "different" endings only to find out they were all the same and plot holed filled  and think they can keep getting away with it trying to give excuses that are no longer valid? sry but gaming wont last if this is the kind of s**t we keep getting sold to us.

Enundr 47 pts

look at D3 , we got sold a game we were FORCED to be online all the time just to play single player (and with the horrible server issues  , server crashes , lagging IN SINGLE PLAYER ) . were just getting abused all the time , they try to see how many are gullible enough to keep supporting such horrible ideas and still pay  for these things. not saying that games shouldnt be payed for but saying that they shouldnt be messing with their source of income. were getting sold products with little effort put into it each day , save for the effort of making it "flashy".

JamesX007 15 pts

 Enundr They didn't sold D3 to me.  I Boycotted it.  Instead I bought an actual MMORPG to play.

mini_mario 9 pts

 Enundr I'd sya... stop with the big devs and go for some Indie gaming. They got soul, more than most.

gmromero 39 pts

Why is it that sites like IGN, Gamespot, and others fight so hard to defend EA and the awful ME3 ending? Do they get paid to do so? Threatened with being cut off from content to review? Guess what, the Better Business Bureau already declared ME3 guilty of false advertising, as did millions of fans. Anyone who played through all 3 games and remembers being promised individualized endings will immediately recognize false advertising when they catch the lazy, plot-hole filled multi-colored ending. Oh, and Gamespot, that ending was as much art as a phallus on a bathroom stall, so save that argument too.  

powerman1426 11 pts

 gmromero Nice art comparison at the end there lol, perfectly blunt. Well said

 

mini_mario 9 pts

 gmromero Well, it's called Advertising Dollars, bro.

hboedijo 8 pts

I recalled an article here said that Gamers are not always right...true...but trust me, in ME3's case we're right...right from the beginning...call us concerned gamer as immature or whatever...playing games are never about maturity, it's about having fun & satisfaction...ME & ME2 brought it quite well...if EA & Bioware provide a better (& logical) ending for ME3 as advertised, i think ME loyalists will keep following  the series until ME6 or so....

 

So EA & Bioware, wanna make more money from ME ? consult with the guy that introduced "Force" to this world...6 / 6 of his movie series provide satisfactory (& logical) closure...

 

Or you can always choose to invest more money in continuous press conference against loyal ME gamers' opinions which will definately make your beloved franchise go further south...

 

Games for Gamers, not Games for Profiteer.

xsonicchaos 168 pts

 hboedijo we do this because we care. if we wouldn't give a f**k about this game, we all would be like "it was okay, let's move on".

Norrie91 94 pts

They've missed the point altogether they said each out come would be COMPLETLY Different I have 5 saves and a few of my friends all have more than one save their are only one or two changes here or there. Nothing about it is 100% COMPLETLY Different, that combined with the absolutley 100% terrible final 10 mins of the game = this game bombed for the fans.

EA/BiowEAr screwed up all just because of a stupid script leak and they just can't admit it.

Jerrymiru 11 pts

Looks to me that the ASA statement was written by a lawyer. Pointing out that the endings are indeed similar, but different. They are clearly missing the point and, I'm willing to bet, have never actually played the game(s). So, to me at least, they would not be able to make a truly informed opinion.

Valdir_Imrov 9 pts

The ending was awful. Phew, got that out of the way. I was one of the many people praying that the indoctrination theory was true and that they were going to redo the entire thing in a huge, genius ploy. Unfortunately, that never happened and it destroyed any desire I had to replay Mass Effect 3. Despite the preceeding hours of gameplay and story being tight and cohesive, the fact that the ending was a complete and utter shambles an that it could only end in one single plothole ridden way ensured that I could never play this game again.

 

Now onto the main point. As much as I despised the ending (a little piece of my gaming soul died), and as much as I think Bioware's promises about the ending were changed drastically (a heads up would have been nice), I never thought they were technically guilty of false advertising. There is enough variation in the Earth section (even if it is only window dressing) that EA could get away with saying that your choices from game 1 were accounted for (Wrex being there for example, or whether Ashley or Kaidan were there). I don't support the atrocity of an ending, but I won't say that EA or Bioware (read: sell-outs) is under any obligation to change it. I'll play the extended ending, but if it's not satisfying (which I doubt it will be) I'll be done with the Mass Effect franchise once and for all. So you could say that for me this will be... an end, once and for all. >.> <.<

 

inb4; [spoiler warning] No, I did not mind that my Shepard died, I have nothing against depressing, downer endings as long as they make sense and are not blatantly forced diabolous ex machine. That is all.

Enundr 47 pts

 Valdir_Imrov done with the ME franchise? meh id be done with the whole bioware franchise at this point. will pass at DA3 and any other games from them XD

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