But take into account that as life expectancy grows, the perception of who is considered "old" and "pensioner" changes. In Spain, as life expectancy is 80 years, now the Government has established the pension age at 67 (by then most Russian men would have died) My father is 79 years old and 1/ He still drives a car 2/He and my 68 years old mother still go out and have dinners until midnight many days with their friends. So what the Russian people thinks about being "old" will change during the next decade. While now probably most Russians consider "old" somebody who is 65 years old, in a decade only those who are 75 years old or more will be considered "old". Here in Spain I hear many times: "He was still young when he died: just 66 years". Dying with less than 75 years in Spain is something strange.