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Assume a school wants your kid, but you don't FC. How much do you think that hurts your chances? I know some kids get in without them, but it's hard to tell whether that's common or relatively rate. Any thoughts appreciated!

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  • Assume a school wants your kid, but you don't FC. How much do you think that hurts your chances? I know some kids get in without them, but it's hard to tell whether that's common or relatively rate. Any thoughts appreciated!

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    12.05.11, 04:46 AM Flag ]
    • I'm really curious about this too. We are applying to private from public (for middle school), so no one to ask. No helpful school person to walk us through how to do it or to give us feedback.

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      12.05.11, 05:41 AM Flag
      • You don't have to FC for middle school. They offer acceptances to the students they want. Multiple acceptances are very common.

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        12.05.11, 07:43 AM Flag
        • We didn't FC from public elem into TT middle and got accepted. I think FC is a myth.

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          12.05.11, 12:52 PM Flag
    • A FC really only hurts/helps if your PSD has feedback & there's brokering. So ask your PSD and you won't screw it up. If no PSD, then it doesn't particularly hurt or help, and the accept percentages won't be an indication of whether you are screwing it up or not.

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      12.05.11, 06:06 AM Flag
    • Depends. If your kid is an excellent applicant (high erb, great school report), it's likely a non tt school will ding as they know you likely wouldn't be interested.

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      12.05.11, 06:11 AM Flag
      • Ridiculous. A nonTT school would admit you if you're an excellent applicant.

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        12.05.11, 06:14 AM Flag
        • np: not our kid. They didn't think he would attend, and focused on kids who fc'd. He ended up getting into our first choice, wl'd at 2nd and 3rd, rejected at all "back-ups". Total product of brokering, which was fine by us.

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          12.05.11, 06:18 AM Flag
          • then that's brokering, not 'depends'. nonTT didn't WL/R you because they thought you wouldn't be interested, but because they know you were brokered (i.e. were 100% going) to another (FC) school. 2nd OR is right, none of this helps answer OP's question except for 'ask your PSD'.

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            12.05.11, 06:25 AM Flag
            • Yes, but if you write a FC letter to school A, and school B is interested in your family, they will ask the PSD if you have written a FC elsewhere. The brokering may not be so direct.

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              12.05.11, 06:32 AM Flag
              • exactly. which is why you talk to your PSD before you FC, and they will tell you where you're getting in and where you're not. that's the whole point. the PSD doesn't want you to write a FC where you're not getting in.

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                12.05.11, 06:37 AM Flag
            • That's NOT brokering. Not at all.

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              12.05.11, 06:34 AM Flag
              • nnp. i read it as getting feedback that "they didn't think he'd attend". otherwise how would NP know? she had to have had a psd

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                12.05.11, 07:22 AM Flag
          • np How's that "brokering"?

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            12.05.11, 06:33 AM Flag
          • did you have a psd and did you FC letter your FC?

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            12.05.11, 06:39 AM Flag
          • sorry to burst your bubble, but if you had no PSD (which it sounds like you didn't), you got rejected and WL'd because they didn't want you.

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            12.05.11, 06:44 AM Flag
            • I wasn't aware I had a bubble, but I certainly had a PSD that I met with regularly at a well-regarded pre-school. 99x3 scores

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              12.05.11, 06:47 AM Flag
              • right, so you had a PSD, no bubble. my point is that you would have gotten into those other schools as well, if you didn't have a PSD telling them you were going somewhere else.

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                12.05.11, 07:13 AM Flag
        • OR Not if you don't fc. They'll think (probably rightly) that you'd go to a more competitive school. You might get a wl, though, that you could work.

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          12.05.11, 06:32 AM Flag
          • no, no, no. no school thinks "this kid is too good for us." they accept the best candidates, unless they have some inside information.

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            12.05.11, 06:36 AM Flag
            • Of COURSE they do. All schools want to maximize their yield. Hewitt, for example, isn't accepting girls who will obviously get into B/S/C UNLESS there's a fc letter. Ding or wl.

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              12.05.11, 06:47 AM Flag
              • the point is that's it's not obvious, and they don't know that unless there's a PSD telling them so.

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                12.05.11, 07:16 AM Flag
            • They accept the candidates who fit their profile. This doesn't mean they accept the "best" candidates.

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              12.05.11, 06:48 AM Flag
              • fit, excellent candidate, whatever. point is the school want who they want, and they try to get them in a competitive market.

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                12.05.11, 07:21 AM Flag
          • why would they WL you if the wouldn't accept you? doesn't make sense.

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            12.05.11, 06:40 AM Flag
            • Yield. All schools want to maximize the number of clear accepts to sign contracts.

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              12.05.11, 06:49 AM Flag
              • it doesn't increase yield to WL someone you think is too excellent a student to choose you. if they aren't interested, they aren't interested.

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                12.05.11, 07:09 AM Flag
    • i would not have written a FC letter unless our PSD suggested it--we DID have a clear FC, though, and she got early positive feedback from them, but she waited until the got "the call" (as she described it, saying "we want that kid") to advise us to write a FC letter. but our kid also got two other accepts w/o a FC letter, though we did write one of those schools and ILY (the third school we never even wrote a thank you letter to and never seriously considered after the tour).

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      12.05.11, 06:51 AM Flag
      • what is a good timing to send ILY and FC letters? now, jan?

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        12.05.11, 07:30 AM Flag
        • definitely too early now--i'd do ILY letters in january, and then when you decide about a FC letter, i'd do that by the end of january as well.

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          12.05.11, 07:51 AM Flag
    • Depends on the school and your preschool. ECFS, without a doubt, takes who they want regardless of parent's expressions of interest. Collegiate and HM also seem to do this, but some here say they do give/get feedback from some preschools. Most other schools want an indication of interest from the parents before they will give an accept. A FC or stongly worded ILY (e.g. you are a top choice) verified by the PSD. I wish I had known this... didn't FC or ILY any school. It worked out but no thanks to my cluelessness.

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      12.05.11, 11:18 AM Flag
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