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1929/2008: similar causes, similar consequences?
1929/2008: similar causes, similar consequences?
Will we experience the same recession as our forefathers did in the 1930’s? If the financial crisis of 1929 bears an eerie resemblance to that of 2008, the political reactions that followed seem different… At least for now.

1929-2008: a similar context

 
1.The American economy is flourishing

The American economy in the 1920s is a prosperous one. The republican president Herbert Hoover, sworn into office in 1929, predicted that “peace would rule the world for many years” and that “the world is at the brink of great commercial growth.” Of course, he had reason to be optimistic. Industrial production, in particular in the automobile sector, was booming.

In recent years, the US economy also boasted strong figures: GDP per capita rose by 2.2% in 2007 (2.9% for the European Union), 3.4% in 2006 (3% in the European Union), and 3.2% in 2005.

 
However, Olivier Pastré, professor at Paris VIII University notes that the US economy –and therefore the world’s- had begun to slow down in the middle of the 1920s, even before the stock market crash. Today, he remarks, the rapid expansion of Asian economies (around 10% growth expected in China in 2008), helps boost American and worldwide growth.

2. With economic growth comes frantic speculation, both in this century and the last

In 1927, 577 million stocks are bought and sold on the New York Stock Exchange. The following year, 920 million stocks are exchanged on Wall Street.

 

Today, the volume of traded stocks is even huger: more than 2 billion are traded solely on the Nasdaq daily. But the variation between 1927 and 1928 is similar to that between 2007 and 2008. Last June, the number of stocks being traded daily on the Nasdaq stock exchange had grown by 49% compared to June 2007.

3. Easy credit

In the 1920s, the prosperous economy makes it easier to contract a credit loan. Financial speculation attracts many would-be traders. At the time, it is possible to pay only 10% of the value of a stock option to acquire it, and borrow the 90% remaining. Those 90% are the target of most speculations. When the clockwork stopped ticking in 1929, courtiers turned to small shareholders asking them to pay back the 90% loan, driving many to bankruptcy.

Oddly enough, we can find the same the same type of situation in today’s crisis, except that subprime credits were granted to by real estate instead of stock options. Millions of families, in particular low-income families, contracted mortgages whose rates weren’t fixed, but variable. Financial markets then speculated on these mortgages.

 
“The mechanism is the same”, Jacques Attali told French news website lemonde.fr on September 17. “We let people get into debt by buying assets whose value was artificial. In 1929 it was the stock market, today it’s real estate.”

 
1929-2008: Similar market and banking panic

 
In both cases, the epicenter of the crisis was the New York stock market (as opposed, for example, to the 1997 crisis, which began in developing countries and South America.)

 
Markets have experienced similar losses in both crises. According to Robert Parker, vice president of Credit Suisse Asset Management, the market fell as fast in 2008 than in 1929, if not faster. “At the time, markets lost 489% in fourteen months. Today, we have lost 45% in one month” he says.

After Black Thursday, October 24 1929, several smaller scares hit markets from 1930 to 1933. Nine thousand banks, that is 15% of the deposits in the banking system, disappeared in three years. (Source, Economica 2001, Financial Crisis)

Since the summer of 2007, banks once again find themselves at the forefront of the crisis: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Lehman Brothers, Northern Rock… At the United States, in Asia and in Europe, governments have multiplied announces for partial and total nationalization of previously powerful banks.

1929-2008: different political solutions?

 
It will be more interesting to compare both post-crisis periods. One question keeps nagging economic leaders: have the lessons of 1929 been learnt ?

 
Yes, one could say, judging from the spur of activity from federal reserves, central banks and governments : both the Paulson plan and the measures unveiled by France, the United Kingdom and Germany on October 13 are to inject billions into the economy to boost the flow of liquid assets. For the past year, the Fed has deliberately maintained a certain liquidity in financial markets, by keeping interest rates low. That strategy was adopted by most Asian and European central banks, which lowered their benchmark interest rates in early October.

 
In 1929, on the other hand, the only bailout effort came from New York’s Federal Reserve Bank, shortly after October’s market crash. This allowed financial markets to rebound temporarily, but with little confidence and optimism from investors, the market low lasted nearly three years, and cash became scarce. Meanwhile, banks’ interest rates remained high, and credit possibilities dwindled. Government inaction in the face of the crisis was largely blamed on US president Herbert Hoover, paving the way for Franklin D. Roosevelt’s election in 1932. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke notes in his “Essays on the Great Depression” (published in 2000) that the countries that abandoned the gold standard and enhanced money supplies emerged from the crisis sooner than those that didn’t.

Another difference: the current global economy is much more open than in the 1930s. At the time, governments favoured protectionist policies, believing they could boost the economy from the inside. Worldwide trade had declined. Today, we seem to have avoided that type of scenario, notably thanks to the industrial and consumerist boom in emerging countries like China, India and Brazil.

That’s where the similarities between the 1929 and 2008 crises end. The American recession really began to hurt between 1930 and 1935, with massive unemployment. It is therefore too early to determine whether industrial countries will escape another Great Depression. One can only hope that the world’s top specialist on the 1929 crisis, none other than current Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, will make the right decisions…

Comments (11)

Another Global Depression?

The politicians can spin it all they want. But we're already in a global depression. The States continue to print endless amounts of money. And, any reputable economist knows that that leads to hyperinflation, devaluation of the dollar. And more protectionism. All of which are happening right now.

To add to the stress, the Stateside drug/health coverage lobby is paying key Congresspeople millions to stop single payer. Govt. employees have universal health care. The military has universal (Tri-Care). But the lobby says the public isn't allowed to have it. We make billions from denying care. And we'll literally fight you to the death before we give that up.

Now, Congress is going on a monthlong holiday because "they work so hard." Would the people in Paris put up with this rubbish?

economy

I'm not sure if what happened in 1929 can really happen again since there have been safe guards put in place since, but I do believe something VERY similar could happen now. With so many stores and companies going out of business and people losing their jobs, where will it end? And no, I don't think it's only here in the US, it will affect the worlds economy.

Capitalism

I think that, if we are sensible, we might find that there is a better political way forward, and it's been around for many years, the Skandivanian model has gone through many crises but has shown itself to be very robust. there is no perfect way forward, but if we are looking for the system that delivers the greatest good for the largest number of people then I feel we could do worse, and, arguably, already have!

Capitalism

With respect to the end of capitalism, I think its getting very near in the USA. When half the people either don't pay any income taxes or get a rebate, they are not invested in the country nor capitalism.

capitolism

there is a serious threat of hyper inflation the so called new indutrialized countrys could end up in a mess caused by dollar deflation as greenspan said to the currancy speculators we are the game

1929/2008

too early to tell. the governmental action taken early may change the course. the change of obama for bush is sooner and should help. probably 85% change a better outcome in 2008.

Is it the end of capitalism?

No it is not. Rather it is a resumption of capitol growth. As also a resumption of new wealth. A time and era of more modern methods at wealth creation.

End of Capitalism

No, I think this was a great ploy, to drive the price of stock down, to allow those who have money to invest to buy at a very low price and get richer. Capitalism will survive and prosper.

end of capitalism

No it is not the end. If the markets can self regulate it will flow. If we can keep the anti-capitalists out of it by limiting ther regulations it will work. Just like a river there are high and low flows. Just get the anti-capitalists and there dams and flow siphons out of it and the market will flow. most of mankind want to work, just a few want to Sponge off workers.

Capitalism's future ?

The same way that the communism proved to be a failure in the hands of its users, the capitalism also, will some day prove a failure. But !! There is a difference ! The capitalism is the law of the NATURE ! It is the LAW OF JUNGLE ! That means the stronger, takes the best and the biggest piece ! And so the capitalism comes more in line with the nature. It will be here, one shape or other.

Credit Default Swaps (CDSs) - Non-existent in the 1929 Crash

Financial 'experts' are totally ignoring the role played by CDS's in the current crisis. This is a $62 trillion black hole which did not even exist in 1929 (CDS's as financial instruments are only about 7 years old & most contracts last about 5 years so the problem is only just begginning to appear in the system). The reason the markets continue to decline is becasue of the lack of confidence among the banks who are the only ones who have any idea how big big the CDS problem really is. Each bank is terrified by its own CDS failures (which may or may not be manageable) but has no idea of the extent of the problem with any of its trading partners ie other banks, hedge funds etc. The media refuses to talk about CDS's - anyone owning stocks or investments in a pension fund needs to find out about them. Google CDS's and understand for yourselves

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