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Review - Zelda: Ocarina of Time (3DS)

By Stuttering Craig on June 17, 2011, 12:30 pm | More of this show

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smoke108

smoke108 Jun 17, 2011 at 12:36 pm

I can understand the logic, kind of like what Jared said during the E3 coverage on another 3DS game.

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Smoofy

Smoofy Jun 17, 2011 at 12:40 pm

It was Metal Gear? Wasn't it? Now I'm sure someone is going to troll Craig just because something negative was said towards Zelda. It's not that it sucks but it seems that functionality wise, it doesn't work.

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SKullKid 17

SKullKid 17 Jun 17, 2011 at 1:24 pm

Craig didnt say anything bad about it he just said it need little bit more than it had. even thought it was ment for big screen i think you should still buy it becouse you need something on for you 3Ds and its a fun game, if you  were fine with played Metal Gear PW on psp then you should be fine playinng OOT on 3ds

p.s 
uncharted for PSp2 better get the same complants then 

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Smoofy

Smoofy Jun 17, 2011 at 1:35 pm

No I know, you misunderstood me, I meant, he didn't say anything bad, but complaints were linked to Zelda, so people are going to troll, he's not saying something bad to Zelda but something related to it isn't right and fanboys only here bad. They won't listen as to why. Also, yes you need something on the 3DS, he said that, but if you're still prone to buying it, by all measures do it. I have StarFox 64 but don't know where the cartridge is, even if I do I might still buy it althought I won't buy every remake, I'll keep my money for new titles like Luigi's Mansion 2.

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BigmanQ

BigmanQ Jun 17, 2011 at 3:04 pm

SKullKid 17 said…
Craig didnt say anything bad about it he just said it need little bit more than it had. even thought it was ment for big screen i think you should still buy it becouse you need something on for you 3Ds and its a fun game, if you  were fine with played Metal Gear PW on psp then you should be fine playinng OOT on 3ds

p.s 
uncharted for PSp2 better get the same complants then 

yeah but peace walker had a mission structure that worked for a hand held

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SKullKid 17

SKullKid 17 Jun 18, 2011 at 10:24 am

BigmanQ said…
yeah but peace walker had a mission structure that worked for a hand held

Was 3rd birthday, god of war, Okamiden and dragon quest mission based

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BigmanQ

BigmanQ Jun 18, 2011 at 10:26 am

no, im just mentioning mgs pw was.

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Ducky.Jr

Ducky.Jr Jun 18, 2011 at 8:44 am

SKullKid 17 said…
Craig didnt say anything bad about it he just said it need little bit more than it had. even thought it was ment for big screen i think you should still buy it becouse you need something on for you 3Ds and its a fun game, if you  were fine with played Metal Gear PW on psp then you should be fine playinng OOT on 3ds

p.s 
uncharted for PSp2 better get the same complants then 

lol whats the bet it wont they would be like "WHOMAGAWD! ITS A CONSOLE GAME ON A HANHELD YAAAAY"... but im sure that they can use small missions or a save anywhere system to make it playable

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sirmidor

sirmidor Jun 19, 2011 at 4:56 am

uncharted: golden abyss isn't a remake. it's a completely new game.
if you buy an psp2/NGP/PSV, you know it's more for hardcore gaming than the 3DS, so you don't expect it to be for on the fly gaming.

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Raw

Raw Jun 30, 2011 at 11:55 pm

How is OOT, a complete and utter re-release, with almost no extra content, similar to Metal Gear Peace Walker and Uncharted on the PSVITA, both of these completely new entries on each franchises?
 
OOT was one of the best games on the N64, but now adays, it doesn't hold up if you played it before.

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fabio73

fabio73 Jun 17, 2011 at 2:03 pm

I can't understand why the Master Quest isn't available from the get go... why do I have to beat the game to unlock it... I've already done that... a lot!!!

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Flumpor

Flumpor Jun 17, 2011 at 3:25 pm

fabio73 said…
I can't understand why the Master Quest isn't available from the get go... why do I have to beat the game to unlock it... I've already done that... a lot!!!

Well, because on the 3DS it isn´t meant for the old gamers. It is for a new Generation and they succeeded (even if the Controls on the 3DS are a bit stiff). 
Well and so that they don´t get frustrated and lay it down they first have to beat it on normal because they think: "Oh yeah, Master Quest I wanna know what that is." I have a little Brother and he bought the game and he plays it and wants to know what Master Quest is (even if I already beat it on Gamecube ... DANG YOU WATER TEMPLE)

@All kids: If you have a Wii. Ask your parrents to go get Wind Waker  Limited Edition on ebay. It has Wind Waker (which also is great. Zelda fans are going to hate me) + OOT + Master Quest. If not then just go with this game. it is also very cool. But be sure you have a Gamecube Controller + Memory Card otherwise you might not be able to play it ;\

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zgamer007

zgamer007 Jun 20, 2011 at 10:40 pm

I'm actually glad about that. It's like the first Zelda game where you can play the 2nd quest after you beat the 1st quest. Though that game did have the feature where if you enter Zelda as the player's name, it takes you directly to the 2nd quest.

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BillyBones

BillyBones Jun 17, 2011 at 4:13 pm

Craig...under your reasoning in this review, every handheld game should receive an "F it" rating.  After all...wouldn't they ALL be better on a tv?

The "well the playtime is long so you will have to recharge" argument is a canard.  Ask Jared how much time he put into the FF games on the DS  and how often he had to recharge.  The 3ds has a sleep mode and quick  save...use them.  If 100 hour long RPGs can be played 20 minutes at a  time...I don't see how Ocarina can't.

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Xetam

Xetam Jun 17, 2011 at 5:24 pm

I think he gave it a F it because he kept comparing it to the original, which shouldn't Retro or Reboot do that? It still seems like fun to play on the go even if you can't go through the whole game in one play through. It's also a review of the game not the battery life of the console.

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Faith

Faith Jun 17, 2011 at 8:44 pm

Handheld consoles are supposed to fill your time with games as you are moving around. The reason why Craig gave an "F' it" is because Zelda (at least OoT) is not meant to be played where you can just stop abruptly.

Remember reading books (I don't but play along with me)? As much as you can, you try to stop reading at the end of a chapter, not at the middle of it. If you're at home, it's fine because you can control where and when you stop playing but outside, where the 3DS is supposed to be played on, you don't have that much control especially with a short battery life and/or other circumstances.

Bottom line: Playing Zelda: OoT 3DS is, I guess, okay if you're just gonna sit in the couch. It's you're choice but personally, I'd rather play on a home console. If you're gonna play "on-the-go", it's not gonna be as enjoyable due to reasons above (which sucks because the concept of having a 3DS is playing on-the-go).

As a handheld game on-the-go, it fails. As a handheld game on-the-couch, it's okay.

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STAARScommando

STAARScommando Jun 18, 2011 at 2:13 am

I don't agree with the fact that the 3DS was made for "on the go" gaming. The point was to provide a new experience with video games period. Further proof of this is the aforementioned low battery life. If it was meant to be only an "on the go" system, they would have increased the battery life by some means so it could better compete in this respect. The main focus of the 3DS is to provide a 3D experience and whether that is on the go or not is irrelevant. Poor decision to F it.

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Faith

Faith Jun 18, 2011 at 9:36 am

iPad, iTouch, iPhone, Blackberry, PSP, DS, Vita, 3DS, etc., what do these guys have in common? They're all handhelds! They're not designed to keep you on the couch. They're designed so that you can get your fill of gaming while you are NOT sitting on your couch or anywhere in the vicinity.

The 3DS has a low battery life because the 3D effect takes a boatload of power to make it happen. It's like playing a game on a laptop. On its own, a laptop can have a battery life of 5 hours. Playing a game, it's dumbed down to 2 hours. Nintendo can't do anything about it. Adding anything more would make the 3DS more bulky or heavy, and people don't want that.

If you want to play Ocarina of Time on your couch or anywhere where you can plug in your 3DS, then it's okay. but as a handheld, it definitely fails. Craig already mentioned it. If you go on a roadtrip, will you be able to play OoT the whole way considering what I said above? I don't think so especially since OoT is a phenomenal game that you won't want to stop playing, which is why it gets an "F' it".

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STAARScommando

STAARScommando Jun 18, 2011 at 4:35 pm

Listen dude, I'm sorry that I offended you boyfriend but my statement still stands. If it is the battery life that you are worried about then be mad at the console NOT the game. I can play whatever I want on the go. I can take my laptop sans power cord and play the Witcher for ***** sake. Saying that some games are made for on the go gameplay  and others aren't is just plain ignorant. As stated previously tons of RPG's have and immersive games have come onto handhelds. In fact the ones that are made for "on the go" the tetrises and monkey balls what have you, I would never play. So why does this game warrant an F it rating for a reason that is overlooked on other games? That's right, it doesn't.

The only thing that I have noticed about Craig's perspective on things is that he likes to say what the majority doesn't want to say to cause a ruckus. It is painfully obvious that when his fellow reviewers are shocked at his statements and ask for clarification, that he is trying to pull a reason out of his ass, hoping that it will be enough to satisfy them.

This being said, I do not think the Ocarina of Time should be remade anymore and this one shouldn't have been made either. In fact, all Zeldas should be scrapped unless they find a way to reboot and add freshness to the franchise. I would have said F it to this game not because it is better on a console (an apparent attempt to pacify fanboys) but because there is no way that this game can stand toe to toe with the other adventure/rpg games of today. It's obvious that I am a Resident Evil fan, but do you think that I would trade the new style of gameplay for the old? Hell no, I like being able to walk in the direction i press on the analog stick and not have to press up to go forward all the time. But this is what Zelda fans get in every iteration of the game. A rehash with non-existent story and maybe a slight graphical upgrade. That is my point.

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Kronan

Kronan Jun 18, 2011 at 6:55 pm

STAARScommando said…
Listen dude, I'm sorry that I offended you boyfriend but my statement still stands. If it is the battery life that you are worried about then be mad at the console NOT the game. I can play whatever I want on the go. I can take my laptop sans power cord and play the Witcher for ***** sake. Saying that some games are made for on the go gameplay  and others aren't is just plain ignorant. As stated previously tons of RPG's have and immersive games have come onto handhelds. In fact the ones that are made for "on the go" the tetrises and monkey balls what have you, I would never play. So why does this game warrant an F it rating for a reason that is overlooked on other games? That's right, it doesn't.

The only thing that I have noticed about Craig's perspective on things is that he likes to say what the majority doesn't want to say to cause a ruckus. It is painfully obvious that when his fellow reviewers are shocked at his statements and ask for clarification, that he is trying to pull a reason out of his ass, hoping that it will be enough to satisfy them.

This being said, I do not think the Ocarina of Time should be remade anymore and this one shouldn't have been made either. In fact, all Zeldas should be scrapped unless they find a way to reboot and add freshness to the franchise. I would have said F it to this game not because it is better on a console (an apparent attempt to pacify fanboys) but because there is no way that this game can stand toe to toe with the other adventure/rpg games of today. It's obvious that I am a Resident Evil fan, but do you think that I would trade the new style of gameplay for the old? Hell no, I like being able to walk in the direction i press on the analog stick and not have to press up to go forward all the time. But this is what Zelda fans get in every iteration of the game. A rehash with non-existent story and maybe a slight graphical upgrade. That is my point.

If there's a perfectly fine console which has a game, let's say Super Mario Galaxy 2 on it remade, but it is forcing me to shove a bottle of coke up my ass every 3 hours, I'm gonna be mad at the game, not the console... or really I'd be made at the guys who made the game, but I think you get my point.

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Siegewolf

Siegewolf Jun 28, 2011 at 11:31 pm

Faith said…
iPad, iTouch, iPhone, Blackberry, PSP, DS, Vita, 3DS, etc., what do these guys have in common? They're all handhelds! They're not designed to keep you on the couch. They're designed so that you can get your fill of gaming while you are NOT sitting on your couch or anywhere in the vicinity.

The 3DS has a low battery life because the 3D effect takes a boatload of power to make it happen. It's like playing a game on a laptop. On its own, a laptop can have a battery life of 5 hours. Playing a game, it's dumbed down to 2 hours. Nintendo can't do anything about it. Adding anything more would make the 3DS more bulky or heavy, and people don't want that.

If you want to play Ocarina of Time on your couch or anywhere where you can plug in your 3DS, then it's okay. but as a handheld, it definitely fails. Craig already mentioned it. If you go on a roadtrip, will you be able to play OoT the whole way considering what I said above? I don't think so especially since OoT is a phenomenal game that you won't want to stop playing, which is why it gets an "F' it".

My HTC Evo 3D does well with 3d on and lasts longer. I don't see what you mean.

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Terrato

Terrato Jun 17, 2011 at 7:01 pm

I can say that Final Fantasy I & II and Kingdom Hearts: BBS are just the kind of "portable game" not meant to be played on the go (I mean, if you really want to enjoy them and not just "clear" them).

A portable console is great for playing games like Monster Hunter 'cause you can take your console to your friend's house and get together with 3 other people and play with them and scream things like "throw a freaking flash bomb!!!!" or "dude, where the f*** is the shock trap!?!?!? the damned Rathalos is after me!!!" and have a great time, but if you want to play a solo RPG or anything like it, you need some peace and quiet... I totally agree with Craig on this, OoT is not a game meant to be played on the go, even Link's Awakening isn't... I played most of it while I was in the toilet. 

And about what you said, I'm pretty sure if we ask Jared, he'll tell us that he didn't played most of those FFs on the bus... most likely he had the PSP plugged to the charger and was sitting on a couch at home. 

Then again, that's just my opinion.

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Korne

Korne Jun 17, 2011 at 11:16 pm

BillyBones said…
Craig...under your reasoning in this review, every handheld game should receive an "F it" rating.  After all...wouldn't they ALL be better on a tv?

The "well the playtime is long so you will have to recharge" argument is a canard.  Ask Jared how much time he put into the FF games on the DS  and how often he had to recharge.  The 3ds has a sleep mode and quick  save...use them.  If 100 hour long RPGs can be played 20 minutes at a  time...I don't see how Ocarina can't.

No, some games are much better suited for portable devices, like Angry Birds, Half Minute Hero, N+, and many, many others. The problem here is that the game is a huge time commitement, and doesn't really have natural start/stop moments that many RPGs on the portable consoles have. It is still a great game, but Craig would rather people play it on the big screen for a fraction of the price.

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BillyBones

BillyBones Jun 17, 2011 at 11:53 pm

Korne said…
No, some games are much better suited for portable devices, like Angry Birds, Half Minute Hero, N+, and many, many others. The problem here is that the game is a huge time commitement, and doesn't really have natural start/stop moments that many RPGs on the portable consoles have. It is still a great game, but Craig would rather people play it on the big screen for a fraction of the price.

None of those are deep games.  You are regulating handhelds to iphone status by saying that those are the games that are best suited to them.  Handhelds can have deep games: chrono trigger, the castlevanias, monster hunter, advance wars, the mario & luigi games, the world ends with you, all the zelda games, all the FF games, all the dragon quest games, all the layton games, all the phoenix wright games, the Shin Megami games, the GTA games, valkyria chronicles, the disgaeas, etc.   None of those can be beaten in a few hours.  All are huge time commitments.  How many hours do people put into pokemon games, for instance?

Luckily, the system let's you close it to instantly halt your progress. So, kill an octaorok, then close the system.  Two days later, open it back up and resume.  What's the issue?

As to your last line, that wasn't mentioned in the review...and while Oot is on the virtual console, you're not going to find master quest as easily.  Even if you do find the GC version with both, expect to pay about the same price as the 3ds version.

side note: since when did 5 hours become a short battery life?  That's the flight time from NY to LA.  If you're going to be playing longer than that in a go, you probably have access to a power outlet (hint: the one in the car is round and has a picture of cigarettes on the cover)

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Board_games_r_evil

Board_games_r_evil Jun 18, 2011 at 1:57 am

so basically to sum it up (since most people wont read this incredibly long comment) Zelda Ocarina of Time is still a great game regardless of whether it's on handheld or on the tv, apparently people expect the 3ds to have the same games (apps?) as the ipad but that isnt true considering the 3ds is a handheld that caters to all gamers rather than just the guy on the go, no one is forcing you to finish the game all at once, play the game at your own pace which is what the 3ds lets u do

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Korne

Korne Jun 18, 2011 at 11:43 am

BillyBones said…
None of those are deep games.  You are regulating handhelds to iphone status by saying that those are the games that are best suited to them.  Handhelds can have deep games: chrono trigger, the castlevanias, monster hunter, advance wars, the mario & luigi games, the world ends with you, all the zelda games, all the FF games, all the dragon quest games, all the layton games, all the phoenix wright games, the Shin Megami games, the GTA games, valkyria chronicles, the disgaeas, etc.   None of those can be beaten in a few hours.  All are huge time commitments.  How many hours do people put into pokemon games, for instance?

Luckily, the system let's you close it to instantly halt your progress. So, kill an octaorok, then close the system.  Two days later, open it back up and resume.  What's the issue?

As to your last line, that wasn't mentioned in the review...and while Oot is on the virtual console, you're not going to find master quest as easily.  Even if you do find the GC version with both, expect to pay about the same price as the 3ds version.

side note: since when did 5 hours become a short battery life?  That's the flight time from NY to LA.  If you're going to be playing longer than that in a go, you probably have access to a power outlet (hint: the one in the car is round and has a picture of cigarettes on the cover)

All the games you mentioned are deep games that suit themselves well for the handhelds, and are great for pick up and play gaming. OoT is not (anyone that has played it will agree, you lose hours doing just small sidequests). That was mainly what Craig was saying.

Also, Im 90% sure that Master Quest is on the virtual console. 

Also Also, cross continental flights are fast, but layover flights are waaaaay slower. The 3DS isn't the best handheld for flights, but that is besides the point. 

Get this game if you can, it is great! Just look for other ways to play it other than dropping $300 right now.

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BillyBones

BillyBones Jun 18, 2011 at 4:10 pm

In that case, you're 90% wrong: master quest isn't on the VC.  You can
only get it on the gamecube and it's kind of rare....until now. 

re: oot pick up and play.  I just can't see what makes OOT different from other action rpgs like [the the world ends with you, FF crystal
chronicles series, the mario & luigi games, lunar knights, Kingdom
hearts, valkyria chronicles, x-men legends, ultimate alliance, FF crisis
core, monster hunter, ys, etc.  Almost all of which have sidequests
that take hours, all have long play time just like Oot, and all play
just fine on a handheld.

re:layovers.  If you have a layover you have access to outlets in the airport.

But, to reiterate...none of your responses were actually in Craig's
review...maybe it would have gone over better if he had included some of that reasoning instead of just saying: looks great, plays great, F' it.

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Korne

Korne Jun 18, 2011 at 11:26 pm

re:re: Yet again, most of the games you are mentioning have systems that allow for pick up and play. Mario and Luigi games don't really, and it does sort of hurt it. Games like The World Ends With You, Kingdom Hearts, Valkyria Chronicles, FF Crisis Core, Monster Hunter, GTA, Ghost Trick, Phoenix Wright, Half Minute Hero, FF Tactics, Advanced Wars, Proffessor Layton, ect... they split the gameplay into small chunks for you to take on in small play-sessions. 

I am actually having this same problem with Okamiden (another action adventure game). It doesn't suit itself well for pick up and play sessions, and so I'd rather just play the original Okami on the big screen.

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NayN64

NayN64 Jun 27, 2011 at 6:39 pm

You raise a few good points there but there are some things to consider. While I agree that the Castlevanias, some of the Final Fantasies, the Advance Wars series, and others are examples of games that require a significant portion of time, the benefit to many of them was that they featured a quick-save feature. So for the short bus commute, or train ride, one could easily whip it out, and if they didn't get to a good spot, they could quick save it and put it away. On the DS and PSP, there was also the added benefit of sleep mode.

But a shorter battery life can somewhat hurt the value of sleep mode. When I shut my DS in the middle of the game, I don't want to be thinking "Crap! I gotta find some time to finish that section ASAP before my battery dies and I lose my data." Now I will admit that I don't own a 3DS or the Legend of Zelda OOT. I'm basing that off of times when I've had that same thought when my PSP or DSLite was ALREADY low on battery when I was putting it to sleep.

It's just something to consider. As I remember it, OOT didn't lend itself well to pick up and play gaming. Maybe it's just me, but I always thought the best way to play through each individual dungeon was in one sitting. Water Temple, I'm looking directly at you.

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sigmahunter06

sigmahunter06 Jun 17, 2011 at 6:34 pm

Craig has just been blacklisted by Nintendo. How dare he say F it. I was expecting Rent it.

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ROYAl_ONE

ROYAl_ONE Jun 17, 2011 at 10:20 pm

yup, thats exactly what i was thinking, hell either way, its just craigs opinion, and im not saying that it maters or not, but my own opinion is what i look into when i buy games, so its a buy for me

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yuna66

yuna66 Jun 19, 2011 at 3:56 pm

Tbh, as much as I love Ocarina of Time, I understand what Craig's saying.

Sure the graphics look better, but it is really just a port at the end of the day. There's nothing new really...I wouldn't buy the 3DS just for this.

I already have the whole Zelda Collection on Gamecube...I can play it on my TV right now if I wanted. If people haven't played it before, sure, I'd recommend it. A great way to get into the franchise for 3DS owners. 

But most people have played it (or at least, 90% of the audience it's targeting imo) so...that's my view on it, anyway :).

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Interweb

Interweb Jun 17, 2011 at 12:36 pm

Inb4fanboysstartdefendingthegame

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nicobbq

nicobbq Jun 17, 2011 at 1:29 pm

*grabs a chair
*grabs a beer

Ok this is going to be good!

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ApolloJustice

ApolloJustice Jun 17, 2011 at 1:48 pm

Interweb said…
Inb4fanboysstartdefendingthegame

Woah woah woah, I have my own opinions, that makes me a fanboy? Imagine a world where Craig never said F It, instead he said Buy It, I wonder how many people would still think this is a terrible game.

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Interweb

Interweb Jun 17, 2011 at 1:59 pm

No, that does not make you a fanboy. But if you started defending the game likeso: "**** YOU CRAIG! YOU'RE WRONG BECAUSE I LIKE THE GAME HERPADERPADOODAA!"

You know, I too love OoT; it's one of my favorite games of all time, for crying out loud. It's just those people who completely ignore Craig's comment that the game is great, and just get furious over the "F' it!" rating. I was expecting something like that.

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ApolloJustice

ApolloJustice Jun 17, 2011 at 2:20 pm

Interweb said…
No, that does not make you a fanboy. But if you started defending the game likeso: "**** YOU CRAIG! YOU'RE WRONG BECAUSE I LIKE THE GAME HERPADERPADOODAA!"

You know, I too love OoT; it's one of my favorite games of all time, for crying out loud. It's just those people who completely ignore Craig's comment that the game is great, and just get furious over the "F' it!" rating. I was expecting something like that.

**** YOU CRAIG! YOU'RE WRONG BECAUSE I LIKE THE GAME HERPADERPADOODAA!
There satisfied? Because I'm not
CRAIG IS JUST A HUGE DOUCHEBAG, HE HAS NEVER PLAYED A GAME IN HIS LIFE. WHAT'S THE POINT OF A REVIEW IF YOU HAVE OPINIONS?
Also, I'm joking in case you couldn't tell

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Interweb

Interweb Jun 17, 2011 at 2:57 pm

ApolloJustice said…
**** YOU CRAIG! YOU'RE WRONG BECAUSE I LIKE THE GAME HERPADERPADOODAA!
There satisfied? Because I'm not
CRAIG IS JUST A HUGE DOUCHEBAG, HE HAS NEVER PLAYED A GAME IN HIS LIFE. WHAT'S THE POINT OF A REVIEW IF YOU HAVE OPINIONS?
Also, I'm joking in case you couldn't tell

I like how you had to point out that you were joking. As if "HERPADOODAA!" wasn't a dead giveaway.None

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CultClassicGamer

CultClassicGamer Jun 17, 2011 at 4:02 pm

I think HERPADERPADOODAA is my new favorite insult to fanboys:D Thanks for that!

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Interweb

Interweb Jun 17, 2011 at 4:09 pm

ORIGINAL INSULT! DO NOT STEAL!

Nah, you're welcome. :)

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NayN64

NayN64 Jun 27, 2011 at 6:50 pm

What's even funnier is when you really think about the rating system for VGR's it completely fits his opinion. VGR's aren't put on the traditional numbered scale that many reviewers used. I would be willing to bet that if Craig gave the game a score from 1-10, or 1-5, it would be more... "acceptable" to those fanboys who are outraged by this. By saying "F*** IT," he's not saying it's 3.5/10, or something like that. He's saying it's not worth buying. Given his reasoning, I can't find it hard to undestand why he feels that way.

For anyone interested, "Extra Credits" over on EscapistMagazine.com just did an episode on Video Game Reviews. I highly reccomend it, especially to fans of "The Game Overthinker."
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/3587-Game-Reviews

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hippobu

hippobu Jun 17, 2011 at 2:51 pm

No excuses, really. I didn't play Gameboys' Zelda, but DSs' was excusable, they was program in a way that that took the least amount of my time, the DS loadtime was low, and battery life was long. 

3DS, (I think) load-time is longer, battery life is shorter, and OoT is just huge, way to big for on the go gaming.  

Beside, OoT sucked, it sucked back then, undoubtedly it still sucks. 

A Link/link to the past an the other hand, I am looking forward to.

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Headstrong Gamer

Headstrong Gamer Jun 17, 2011 at 3:02 pm

You know im a massive fan of ocarina of time, fav game ever for me, as i live in the uk i got the game today and i kinda agree with craig, i just can't shake the feeling nintendo and grezzo missed a big opportunity to do more, like an extra dungeon like they did with links awakening dx, or at least orchestrated music as craig said. however don't belive it deserves an f'it it even with the little annoyances and what craig mentioned it's still a must buy.

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Kenshiro3

Kenshiro3 Jun 17, 2011 at 4:25 pm

Craig's problem, something I have noticed, is that he hates what he
considers full sized/console games on bite sized/handheld platforms. His real issue is with the platform itself
and NOT the game. And I feel he let that bias get in the way of his
professionalism.

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Board_games_r_evil

Board_games_r_evil Jun 18, 2011 at 2:05 am

agreed, i think craig has this notion that the 3ds has to have app like games or something short, i can see how he can dislike Ocarina of time since it is just a straight up port with graphical improvements but that one particular issue that OoT is too big for the 3ds just seems ridiculous, if OoT was just five hours i can see how that might warrant an F'it

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JoShIzZiE

JoShIzZiE Jun 17, 2011 at 4:59 pm

You don't need to defend a masterpiece. U mad?

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Interweb

Interweb Jun 18, 2011 at 11:19 am

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criplash

criplash Jun 21, 2011 at 12:03 pm

lips

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MaDdOg99

MaDdOg99 Jun 22, 2011 at 1:03 am

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sechrest20

sechrest20 Jun 17, 2011 at 12:38 pm

uh oh

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Demon_the_Kid

Demon_the_Kid Jun 17, 2011 at 2:46 pm

.......*Sip a cup of tea* WHAT THE F U JUST DID CRAIG!!??

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trophykiller

trophykiller Jun 21, 2011 at 11:37 am

Oh noes... Must. Seek. Shelter.

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Woodyman

Woodyman Jun 17, 2011 at 12:38 pm

Hmm... I never played the original. If I ever get a 3DS I might pick this up. Or I'll just buy an N64 and the game... Whatever happens first.
Nice review Craig, I was kinda expecting this after what I saw on Facebook haha.

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Smoofy

Smoofy Jun 17, 2011 at 12:41 pm

Well I say you could find a 64 at a much better price and if you have a Wii, you could just play it on Virtual Console, I think it's there...

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Mach5Mike

Mach5Mike Jun 17, 2011 at 1:00 pm

Well, if you're lucky, you might find a copy of the original for the N64 for less than 10 dollars (I don't know how much it will cost for an N64). If you want to go the virtual console route, it's going to be 10 dollars. While I always suggest playing a game on its original console, the Virtual Console version of Ocarina of Time isn't that bad when played with a Gamecube controller; or maybe it's just because I've become so accustomed to using the controller with almost every game I've played since the Gamecube days.

As for the review, I agree with Craig about the game being on a handheld. Personally, I think the game would have made a perfect Wii Ware title. The same goes for rehashing the music; it's actually kind of ironic, I also suggested that Nintendo should contact ZREO to use their reorchestrated soundtrack. I guess Nintendo didn't want to be awesome like Capcom when they teamed up with OC Remix to provide tracks for Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix.

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skandelus

skandelus Jun 17, 2011 at 1:56 pm

If you have a gamecube or a wii, i would suggest buying the Ocarina of Time for the gamecube, which includes the master quest!

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Carlioo

Carlioo Jun 17, 2011 at 12:38 pm

But if you don't have a N64 but you have a 3DS, then the game's a buy? Or am I missing something here?

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Smoofy

Smoofy Jun 17, 2011 at 12:43 pm

I'd personally say at that point if you also don't have a Wii (virtual console), buy it. If you have the game in any other way coupled with the fact that there's the battery life problem, it's not worth your time. If you never played it and don't plan to use it on the road then do so.

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Carlioo

Carlioo Jun 17, 2011 at 12:54 pm

So.... You're saying that it's a good 3DS game to play at home, where you can charge your battery, correct?

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Smoofy

Smoofy Jun 17, 2011 at 1:00 pm

Yes, if you can't already play it anyway on your big screen. If I have it I won't bother going up with finnickey 3D with a game I'll play for hours, wich is counter intuitive with the 3DS or slighty not on par gameplay, or needlessly different.

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gonzoneil

gonzoneil Jun 17, 2011 at 12:46 pm

I think the point is that this game belongs on a TV where you can comfortable sit in front of it for hours at a time.

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black_bass

black_bass Jun 17, 2011 at 3:42 pm

well aren't all games better on TV then?

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gonzoneil

gonzoneil Jun 17, 2011 at 3:56 pm

no. that's why we have a burgeoning mobile game market.

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black_bass

black_bass Jun 17, 2011 at 4:03 pm

that's cause of the price and everyone have a mobile... and if you're talking about applications or everything that's why there are tablets today it's just that's it's more convenient and cheaper

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Smoofy

Smoofy Jun 17, 2011 at 12:39 pm

I understand the choice, ultimately, the ''on the go'' aspect of handhelds is is already a bit counter intuitive, I find myself playing them more inside because I just can't focus in crowded places if I'm going to play something story heavy but in car or train trips it's definatly useful but then comes in the 3DS battery life, it's one of the 3 things pushing me from buying it:

1-price

2- finnickey 3D

3- battery life

Anyway, isn't the game already on the virtual console?...

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ExplodingLobster

ExplodingLobster Jun 17, 2011 at 2:23 pm

Yeah, it's on virtual console

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Cinos

Cinos Jun 17, 2011 at 2:46 pm

Smoofy said…
I understand the choice, ultimately, the ''on the go'' aspect of handhelds is is already a bit counter intuitive, I find myself playing them more inside because I just can't focus in crowded places if I'm going to play something story heavy but in car or train trips it's definatly useful but then comes in the 3DS battery life, it's one of the 3 things pushing me from buying it:

1-price

2- finnickey 3D

3- battery life

Anyway, isn't the game already on the virtual console?...

1-price



2- finnickey 3D



3- battery life

Take #2 off, and it's the Game Gear!

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Smoofy

Smoofy Jun 17, 2011 at 6:26 pm

Lol, almost actually! Except that the 3DS still manages to be slitghy better (sad on both perspectives), you have a rechargeable battery, at least you can use it far more then once, with the gamegear you needed 6 double A batteries and even then it only lasted about five hours, adding therefore insult to injury then you had to replace them.

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Smoofy

Smoofy Jun 17, 2011 at 6:27 pm

Lol, good one Cinos (generic fan character name), almost actually! Except that the 3DS still manages to be slitghy better (sad on both perspectives), you have a rechargeable battery, at least you can use it far more then once, with the gamegear you needed 6 double A batteries and even then it only lasted about five hours, adding therefore insult to injury then you had to replace them.

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TriforceGod3

TriforceGod3 Jun 17, 2011 at 6:51 pm

I would recommend getting the Nyko power + battery. It is a little
expensive at 20 bucks for the battery or 30 bucks for the battery and a
charging dock, but it has definitely been worth it for me. It ups the
battery life to around 6 or 6.5 hours.

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TriforceGod3

TriforceGod3 Jun 17, 2011 at 6:51 pm

I would recommend getting the Nyko power + battery. It is a little
expensive at 20 bucks for the battery or 30 bucks for the battery and a
charging dock, but it has definitely been worth it for me. It ups the
battery life to around 6 or 6.5 hours.

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yahya_no_1

yahya_no_1 Jun 17, 2011 at 12:40 pm

WOW Crag thats one ballsy review lol

But I see where your coming from, they took so much time with this game and added nothing new other than new visuals.

I would buy it just for the nostalgic, but I can just as well pop in my N64 and play the same game on a bigger TV.

Lets face it Nintendo is now lazy and there losing there touch, they knew for a long time we wanted the canceled levels and the Triforce to be in this vr. but they ignored that and took the easy way out, but yah thats the BIG N for ya, there not as good as they once were

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StutteringCraigFanNumber108456456

StutteringCraigFanNumber108456456 Jun 17, 2011 at 3:34 pm

I agree. People don't realize that when I hate Nintendo, I hate Nintendo for what they are now, not for some fanboyish reason. I love Nintendo 64; and the Gamecube at least did things differently. Super Mario Sunshine, while splits opinions, at least brought in completely unique and new characters. Galaxy, pretty much was a super linear game, with less creative and immersive worlds, and characters that almost all were rehashes from previous games. Zelda Wind waker was a huge departure and was original. So far, the Wii has been rehash after rehash, with no original style.

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Crazycooling07

Crazycooling07 Jun 17, 2011 at 5:57 pm

StutteringCraigFanNumber108456456 said…
I agree. People don't realize that when I hate Nintendo, I hate Nintendo for what they are now, not for some fanboyish reason. I love Nintendo 64; and the Gamecube at least did things differently. Super Mario Sunshine, while splits opinions, at least brought in completely unique and new characters. Galaxy, pretty much was a super linear game, with less creative and immersive worlds, and characters that almost all were rehashes from previous games. Zelda Wind waker was a huge departure and was original. So far, the Wii has been rehash after rehash, with no original style.

Dude look at all modern day shooters....

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StutteringCraigFanNumber108456456

StutteringCraigFanNumber108456456 Jun 17, 2011 at 6:29 pm

Not all made by the same company. Plus genre vs company is not a good comparison. The shooter genre has at least changed more than the platformer genre has.

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Crazycooling07

Crazycooling07 Jun 17, 2011 at 9:29 pm

Yeah in terms of graphics, its still point, shoot, repeat just like every other genre same gameplay (with the exception of controls) different levels/story/graphics...  Nintendo is just doing what every other company is doing taking something they did before, adding a few new features and graphics, plastering a new label on it, and selling it to us at full price.

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yahya_no_1

yahya_no_1 Jun 18, 2011 at 2:41 am

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Kronan

Kronan Jun 18, 2011 at 6:58 pm

That has gotta be one of the coolest pics ever, thank you for showing it to me x)

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PerfectDark007

PerfectDark007 Jun 19, 2011 at 4:32 am

Wow, yeah those all do look exactly the same lol! FPS's are so unoriginal lol

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gonzoneil

gonzoneil Jun 17, 2011 at 12:42 pm

the gamecube disc with the master quest is the best not counting the original with all of its wonderful glitches.

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Plumerou

Plumerou Jun 17, 2011 at 12:42 pm

can see why you made that desicion and respect your judgement, but man the flame war is coming and in full force :X

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Smoofy

Smoofy Jun 17, 2011 at 12:43 pm

Up your flame shields and flame barriers!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

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herolime14

herolime14 Jun 17, 2011 at 1:21 pm

And the Flameman power up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Arslaan

Arslaan Jun 17, 2011 at 12:43 pm

Fair comments actually Craig. When I saw your Facebook Status about people being pissed about the review I wasn't too sure I would agree with your points....but the fact is why put a game onto a handheld when it would need to be constantly charged over and over?

No doubt a fantastic game but not something I would want to invest so much time in on a handheld. Rather it be on a console.

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