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  • [-]Does anyone have LOW MILK? I feed 1 mo old and then son is starving and I have to give Similac.

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    05.15.07, 08:14 AM Flag ]
    • why do you think he's starving after he nurses?

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      05.15.07, 08:15 AM Flag
      • Cries 1/2 hr-1hr after breastmilk and then takes 2 oz

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        05.15.07, 08:15 AM Flag
        • do you try to bf again when he cries?

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          05.15.07, 08:16 AM Flag
          • no-have a 3 yo and cannot feed at boob all day

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            05.15.07, 08:16 AM Flag
            • at thsi age you need to to gt supply established. try feeding iin a sling

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              05.15.07, 08:17 AM Flag
            • bullshit. i have a 3yo too and a baby who nurses. bad excuse.

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              05.15.07, 08:21 AM Flag
              • There is no need to be rude. It's her decision - you don't know what works for her.

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                05.15.07, 08:25 AM Flag
          • your milk won't increase while you're feeding formula. Stop formula and feed on demand until milk supply increases. Drink LOTS

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            05.15.07, 08:17 AM Flag
        • why not nurse again? you are at risk at compromising your milk supply by supplementing w/ formula. your son has the ability to increase your milk supply, he needs to nurse more to do it.

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          05.15.07, 08:16 AM Flag
          • unclench... supplementing with formula is fine. good lord

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            05.15.07, 08:17 AM Flag
            • to some extent, yes. but many bf'ing moms make the mistake of selfdiagnosing w "low supply" when that's not the case at all. they definitely sabotage their nursing efforts by supplementing

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              05.15.07, 08:17 AM Flag
            • yes, but the way OP is doing it does create a big risk of losing her supply entirely.

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              05.15.07, 08:18 AM Flag
              • thats not true and you know it

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                05.15.07, 08:19 AM Flag
                • this IS true, the more formula she gives the less milk she'll make.

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                  05.15.07, 08:20 AM Flag
                • it is true. 2 oz is a big feeding for a baby that age. if she reduces teh tiem the baby spends ant the boob, her supply wil drop. BTDT.

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                  05.15.07, 08:20 AM Flag
                  • ita. baby only taking 2-4oz a feed, so 2oz of formula is hella lot

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                    05.15.07, 08:21 AM Flag
              • I posted below, OP - Only a professional can "diagnose" a low supply. Your baby can be going thru a growth spurt in which case you need to basically nurse constantly or could have reflux or another issue which is makign him cry like that. Again, I sup emented by choice, this is not an anti formula post.

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                05.15.07, 08:19 AM Flag
            • np: supplementing with forumla is fine, but that doesnt change what the pp said. the more she nurses, the more milk she will make. the more formula she gives, the less milk she will make.

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              05.15.07, 08:18 AM Flag
            • I agree that supplementing is fine, but it sounds like OP wants to increase her supply. np

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              08.25.11, 11:43 AM Flag
          • ITA

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            05.15.07, 08:17 AM Flag
          • can u be a little bit more detailed about this?

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            05.15.07, 08:17 AM Flag
            • the more he nurses, the more milk you'll make. During growth spurts they naturally nurse more to increase supply.

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              05.15.07, 08:18 AM Flag
            • the body responds to baby's sucking by making more milk. if you shove the bottle in baby's mouth, he's not stimulating the milk supply, and it can in fact, diminish if you supplement after every feed.

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              05.15.07, 08:19 AM Flag
        • I've got low milk supply. I also exclusively pump. I pump every 2 to 3 hours, but my milk supply continued to drop. I was only able to make 1/2 ounce per pumping. I met with an LC who told me it's not uncommon for your milk supply to drop when you exclusively pump. She told me to try Breastea from breastea.com and to continue to pump every 2 to 3 hours and drink it daily. I have seen a good increase in my milk supply since I started it.

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          08.25.11, 07:25 AM Flag
      • ditto.

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        05.15.07, 08:15 AM Flag
        • So you engage in DOUBLE FEEDINGS?

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          05.15.07, 08:16 AM Flag
    • I did. It was hard.. I pumped a lot and did some formula.

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      05.15.07, 08:15 AM Flag
    • you are being counterproductive. if you nurse more you will increase your supply. call an LC for some good advice on this. a lot of women think they have low supply and they don't.

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      05.15.07, 08:16 AM Flag
    • how old? I did at first and supplemented just as you describe. I still give a bottle at the end of the day sometimes, but the was able to produce sufficiently by about 6 wks.

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      05.15.07, 08:16 AM Flag
    • how long does he feed for (bf, I mean)? try bf'ing more frequently, btw. your body will adjust and start to make more milk, and then he'll be more satisfied (might be going through a growth spurt right now, too)

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      05.15.07, 08:17 AM Flag
    • Have you seen a specialist to confirm it is low milk supply and not something else such as reflux or a growth spurt? (not being argumentative) You should see a LC and what they do is weigh the baby before a feed and then right after a feed. There are wa ys for a professional to determine if its truly low milk supply. GL!

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      05.15.07, 08:17 AM Flag
    • I did. We ended up FFing. DBs are doing great and are very, very smart.

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      05.15.07, 08:17 AM Flag
      • PS LC told me not to bottle feed and DS almost starved. Trust your gut.

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        05.15.07, 08:20 AM Flag
        • OMG, define "almost starved".....

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          05.15.07, 08:22 AM Flag
          • Lost more than 10% of body weight while this moron told me not to feed him. I pumped to see if anything was coming out and very little did. He was starving.

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            05.15.07, 08:23 AM Flag
            • you should have been working with your ped too and getting frequent weigh in's to check how db was doing. and db must not have been having proper pee and poo's if lost so much

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              05.15.07, 08:25 AM Flag
              • I was. The docs tried to promote me feeding him however, but the LC was so militant and there's such a militant BF culture that they're almost scared of seeming anti-BF.

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                05.15.07, 08:26 AM Flag
                • np: varies by LC. mine crackedout teh formula in the frist 30 seconds I saw her.

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                  05.15.07, 08:27 AM Flag
                  • OR: ITA, but there are bad ones out there and you should not take their word as gospel. Just trying to help out OP. I know there are good ones; had a good one with #2 who said my supply was low and that's the way it goes.

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                    05.15.07, 08:28 AM Flag
        • as long as you keep the weight in check this will NEVER happen. you must have seen a bad LC. we were working with an LC and the ped and had the weight checked very often. also, if your db was not peeing and pooping that's another sign they are not get getting enough milk. if you followed these signs for a well-fed baby there would no starving issues.

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          05.15.07, 08:23 AM Flag
          • exactly. Well said. Please don't alarm the OP.

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            05.15.07, 08:24 AM Flag
            • OR: I just mention it because I don't want the same thing to happen to her becase of other peoples' BF agenda. I agree that all those other signs must be considered. In my case the LC was a horrible horrible idiot.

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              05.15.07, 08:27 AM Flag
              • One of the above posters - I don't have a "BF'g agenda". I myself supplemented by choice. I just think "low milk" is way overdiagnosed and the only way to truly "know" is if you see a professional. They weigh the baby before and after a feed.

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                05.15.07, 08:45 AM Flag
    • I totally agree - and you might not have low suppy. My daughter is 6 wks old now - I thought I had low supply, but it was just that it felt different to no longer be engorged. Also at about 4 weeks they can go through a growth spurt when they "ask" to to be fed much more often. This will increase your milk supply to match the demand. Also check out Kelly Mom, great info.

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      05.15.07, 08:20 AM Flag
    • Do yourself a favor and trust your instinct. I had everyone under the sun tell me I just needed to pump more / bf more / drink more beer / drink more mother's milk tea etc. But I really did have low milk supply. I am hypothyroid, and it is common if you have this issue to also have low milk supply. Only thing that helped was to take a RX drug not available in the US but can order on-line from Australia and other countries. It's called Domperidone. Worked like a charge. I was almost exclusively breast-feeding from months 2-6.

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      09.01.11, 06:15 PM Flag
    • Yes, I had a low supply and I had to supplement. Many of the other posters have claimed that you should be able to produce enough milk but it does happen that you commit completely to Bfing and you still don't have enough. Even when I added formula at the lactation consultant's recommendation/urging, I continued Bfing 60 minutes every other hour during the day and whenever DB woke up at night. So I was Bfing many hours a day. It still wasn't enough.

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      09.01.11, 11:13 PM Flag
    • yes, i tend to err on the side of low supply, but i know that supplementing with formula is the best way to further diminish. I just feed as often as I possible can, so when he wakes up, an hour later, and then an hour later before I put him down, as much as he likes throughout the night etc. This solves my problem. Understand if this won't work for you, but it's the best way.

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      09.01.11, 11:49 PM Flag
    • You likely have a bad latch. Baby can't nurse efficiently, is leaving milk in there, tells your body more isn't needed. If during first 12-14 weeks pp, db only eats a fraction of what s/he needs, your body will set a low supply. If db is getting very little, body responds as if there's no baby supply goes away. Also rule out tongue tie. Unless you have a serious hormone problem LOW MILK isn't the problem. If you want to BF, talk to an LC. if you don't want to BF, don't.

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      09.02.11, 02:14 AM Flag
  • [-]pumping breast milk for my little guy (1-month-old), about 5 times a day. only getting a total of about 10-12 ounces, and supplementing with formula. is it worth the hassle? it's taking away valuable bonding time from us.

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    02.25.11, 08:34 AM Flag ]
    • also, is he even getting any immune system benefits?

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      02.25.11, 08:36 AM Flag
      • meant to say a I'm pumping a total of 10-12 ounces of breast milk per day. sorry, am trying to pump while I type and DB is crying =(

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        02.25.11, 08:37 AM Flag
    • I pumped and used formula from day 1 and by db was bottle fed only. I pumped for 3 months and then my supply was too low to continue. I did think it was worth it though! GL

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      02.25.11, 08:36 AM Flag
    • Have you tried pumping after a good meal and a big cup of tea? I think if you db is 1 month you could increase your supply.

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      02.25.11, 08:37 AM Flag
      • drinking tea and trying to drink more water and eat lots of good stuff!

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        02.25.11, 08:38 AM Flag
    • He is still getting the benefits, especially in the first 8 wks. maybe you can continue to pump and BF him as much as possible to see if it stimulates milk production for one more month? then you can reassess

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      02.25.11, 08:38 AM Flag
      • not nursing at all. he'd fall asleep on boob or nurse and nurse and still be ravenously hungry so I'd have to top him off with a bottle. my boobs are too big!

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        02.25.11, 08:40 AM Flag
        • so he doesnt latch? I would get a lactation consultant to come to your home, see if that helps. bc you wont produce more from just pumping, you need him to help you out. try that, it can't hurt bc they have seen it all.

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          02.25.11, 08:42 AM Flag
        • It's normal for them to fall asleep - 1 mos sleep a lot. Your boobs aren't too big - you just have to hold your boob so he can breathe through his nose - see a LC and they'll show you. I would def. not kill yourself pumping - use formula if you want to bottle feed - there's nothing wrong with formula. Nursing is great because it's free, easy, no bottles, no clean up, no heating, you can do it anywhere - etc. etc. Pumping is a PITA and not a good way to establish your supply unless you need to medically (i.e. baby in the hospital and you plan to nurse). Don't feel pressured to give BM - formula is fine. And don't be scared to nurse - for the first 2 months they sleep a lot and he may want to eat every 1-2 hours - it's okay - just downl...

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          02.25.11, 09:14 AM Flag
        • Re the big boob problem - I had it, it's tough for a newborn sometimes if you've got huge engorged breasts. What I have found is that if you hang in there, in a couple months as they grow they'll be better able to handle it and latch well.

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          02.25.11, 09:16 AM Flag
        • I am 40DDD and had latch problems. Used a nipple shield and it made all the difference, and was eventually able to taper off it. Large breasts should not, alone, prevent nursing.

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          02.25.11, 10:01 AM Flag
        • big boobs are not always a problem. i BF'd fine with H cups. that said, as your baby gets a little bigger it will be less of a problem and, assuming you want to bf, its worth talking to an LC and seeing if you can get the baby back to the breast. I know how frustrating those sleepy babies can be,but they do wake up.

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          02.25.11, 10:05 AM Flag
        • You need to see a lactation consultant. The falling asleep "at the bar" is very common at this age and doesn't mean you have an issue. Boobs being too being also not an issue. I am a 32G and breastfeeding. Sounds like you just need a bit of training on how to troubleshoot. Once you learn a few strategies and tricks you will be fine. Nurse and don't pump. Once you get in the groove it will be faaar easier.

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          02.25.11, 11:57 AM Flag
    • Why don't you just breastfeed him right now? Don't get obsessed about ounces: when you bf, you never know how much db is actually getting but you trust that it's enough. Babies do a lot of sucking as well as eating so he may not be hungry when the milk is done, he may just want to suck. GL.

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      02.25.11, 08:41 AM Flag
    • pumping doesn't work for everyone. babies ALWAYS get way more milk from nursing unless you just make tons of milk and have excess. no matter how much you're giving your baby, it will help. but especially since he's a boy, BREASTFED boys get even more proteins than girls from nursing (not pumped milk) so i would give it try at night at least. and it will add to your bonding time.

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      02.25.11, 08:43 AM Flag
      • can you please cite a study that says that boys have different nutritional needs than girls????

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        02.25.11, 08:47 AM Flag
    • Why not just nurse? No need to pump or worry about ounces.

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      02.25.11, 09:03 AM Flag
      • reading comprehension issues?!?! she is having problems nursing

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        02.25.11, 09:15 AM Flag
        • I'm a poster from below saying a similar thing. OP hadn't mentioned her issues when we posted this.

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          02.25.11, 11:50 AM Flag
    • Pumping is far less efficient at extracting milk than nursing and this influences not just how much the baby gets but also how much your supply grows. So I would say ditch the pump and nurse when you are with him. Give him formula when you're not there or for whatever reason it's not reasonable to nurse. That's the best you can do if you're supplementing. I do think it's worth it to nurse when you can but pumping is just a mess.

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      02.25.11, 09:13 AM Flag
    • If you want to actually produce more milk take the natural herb fenugreek. I had the exact same problem with dd. She would nurse for about a minute then sleep immediately she also wasn't a big eater for the first 4-5 months and this resulted in me almost losing all my supply. Which in turn made her hungry when I wasn't producing enough... It's a complicated rhythm to get into but if you give it some time I'm sure you two will work it out. You should ask about a LC too.. But if you're looking for a quick overnight supply boost fenugreek does the job perfectly and it will keep your supply up for a while! GL

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      02.25.11, 09:42 AM Flag
    • If you want someone to make you feel better for moving on and just going with formula, I'm your girl. I had similar issues: hired lactation consultants, taped tubes to my boobs for the simulated breast feeding effect, went to breast feeding support sessions,spending all my time attached to the pump, etc. Stopped and ending up really enjoying the time with my son(although constantly besieged by guilt by those trying to make me feel bad about my choice.) Ultimately, my baby was less sick than the other babies we knew and at age 4 1/2 got 99x3 on ERB and 99 on OLSAT qualifying for citywide G&T so I don't think the lack of breastfeeding ruined his mental development either. Whatever will make you a happier mother with him: figuring out how to m...

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      02.25.11, 12:02 PM Flag
      • I am also a proud formula feeder ;). If the pumping/nursing is interfering with your enjoyment of your son, by all means switch to formula. It's not poison, it won't hurt your baby, and any immunity/digestive benefits are not worth your being unhappy or stressed out IMO. There is so much pressure on new moms to BF, and I think it's important to know that there are many women who can't/don't want to BF and they, and more importantly their babies, are just fine. Your DB will be fine either way; do what feels right for YOU, not what others tell you you SHOULD do. GL!

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        02.25.11, 01:05 PM Flag
      • thank you!!!! I really appreciate this.

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        02.25.11, 01:35 PM Flag
      • np LOL! Ditto. See below (reduction). 99x3 erbs and 99+ sb (for #1--#2 didn't test for Hunter).

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        02.25.11, 08:04 PM Flag
    • It seems like you want to quit, so quit! Don't worry about what all these strangers have to say...Some people are going to tell you that you should have stuck with nursing to begin with, some people are going to tell you to keep pumping, some people are going to tell you formula is fine. None of these people have the answer - do what is right for you!

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      02.25.11, 02:35 PM Flag
      • You are the mom, you gotta use your instinct.

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        02.25.11, 02:36 PM Flag
    • If you can stick it out for the first three months, you get many of the benefits they can quantify in scientific studies. I had some problems with supply in the first few months, and my pediatrician recommended the tea "Mother's Milk" from any health store, or even perhaps Duane Reade. It has fenugreek -- I found it upped my supply quite a lot, and fairly quickly. Good luck.

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      02.25.11, 07:56 PM Flag
    • I had a reduction and got about a shot glass out of hours of pumping. All 3 of my dcs are ff. With #3, I'm using Baby's Only Organic, which is a great formula. fwiw, my kids are never sick and the first two (at least) have exceptionally high IQs. I truly believe the IQ correlation relates to the fact college educated women *want* to bf, so generally do. Anyway, do what you need to do to be happy and enjoy your baby!

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      02.25.11, 08:03 PM Flag
      • The only IQ studies that have been done did NOT control for socioeconomic status or education level of the mother, the two biggest factors in predicting IQ. And as is mentioned above, BFing (at least for our generation) tends to be much more popular among middle-class-and-above, well-educated women. Also, the IQ differential was only a few points, which is pretty much irrelevant. As for any supposed immunity benefits, there is no clear proof of this, either. In fact, very little hard science exists on the merits of BFing (see Hanna Roisin's article in the Atlantic Monthly for further discussion). A lot of pressure and guilt are put on women to BF when there is virtually no proof that it will make any substantive difference in the baby'...

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        02.26.11, 05:30 AM Flag
    • The question i'd ask back to you is how is it affecting you and your relationship with DB. I was in a similar situation as you and it really got me down. I felt terrible about not being able to do more and all pumping was very stressful. When I finally gave it up I felt like a weight had been lifted off my shoulders. You can only do what you can do, remember DB's time with you is more important than breast milk

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      03.05.11, 05:49 AM Flag
      • I have low milk supply, and it got to where I could only pump 1/2 ounce at a time. I exclusively pump every 2 to 3 hours. The LC told me to go online and try Breastea. I received it in the afternoon, started drinking it, and saw very good results in the morning. I'm now pumping about 5 ounces at a time.

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        08.25.11, 07:20 AM Flag
  • [-]Question about drinking Guinness to boost milk supply while breastfeeding: how long do I have to wait after drinking the beer before I can nurse or pump? Or, do I have to pump and dump? TIA

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    • You know this doesn't really work, right?

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      02.26.11, 06:27 PM Flag
      • np: what's interesting about the UPenn study that tried to disprove this theory is that they gave the nursing mothers alcohol, NOT beer, and concluded that it did not increase milk supply, only make the breasts fuller and made babies suck harder which in turn made women feel like it worked. But the age-old theory is based upon the effect of the brewer's yeast in the beer, not the alcohol. I don't understand why the study was not conducted with beer. I think the jury is still out on this one.

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        02.26.11, 06:40 PM Flag
      • try sperm

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        02.26.11, 07:17 PM Flag
    • First - it doesn't really work. Second - you never have to pump and dump unless you want to for comfort (i.e. you go out for a night on the town and don't want to wake up throbbing). The general rule is 1 hour per drink. So if you're going to have a drink - it's best to do right after nursing. If you have 2-3 drinks, use formula or stored milk for the next feeding.

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      02.26.11, 06:36 PM Flag
    • Don't bother with this. Get yourself some domperidone which is proven to work and used all over the world excep tthe US, of course.

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      02.26.11, 06:39 PM Flag
      • Or she can just trust her body and her baby to work it all out.

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        02.26.11, 06:57 PM Flag
      • domperidone?

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        02.26.11, 07:12 PM Flag
        • think she meant dom perignon

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          02.26.11, 07:13 PM Flag
          • Oh, haha! Thanks.

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            02.26.11, 07:16 PM Flag
            • np: No, domperidone is a medicine that increase bm supply. I used it and it worked, but it is not currently sold in the U.S.

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              02.27.11, 09:23 AM Flag
    • A female pediatrician told me not to worry about dumping at all and said that her DH would bring her a Guiness while nursing.

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      02.26.11, 08:01 PM Flag
    • how many weeks pp are you?

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      02.26.11, 08:03 PM Flag
      • 5 weeks

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        02.26.11, 08:51 PM Flag
        • if you're exclusively BFing, see a lactation consultant about the latch. If not, your supply is adjusting to the supplement, and you need to nurse/pump more or it will tank. Other supply boosters won't make much difference. Once you get to 12 weeks pp there's less likely to be irreparable damage to supply if you nurse/pump less--and give some formula.

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          02.27.11, 09:54 AM Flag
    • look at jack newman's web site or kellymom. by all means have one if you want, but guinness boosting supply is a myth. safest thing time wise is to have beer while you're BFing/pumping. It takes a little while to get in the milk.

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      02.26.11, 08:05 PM Flag
      • yes on the have it while you are nursing. And yes, i think dark beer does help. As does oatmeal, and more than anything else, fenugreek. Enjoy your Guinness.

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        02.26.11, 08:13 PM Flag
    • I would try something herbal. I used Breastea (get it online) and drink daily. It's working great for me. Make sure to breastfeed or pump often.

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      08.25.11, 07:14 AM Flag
    • it worked for me. I had a guinness every evening after the baby was put down for what would be the longest stretch. guinness is low alcohol beer.

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      08.25.11, 07:16 AM Flag
  • [-]Did you bank your baby's cord blood? What led to your decision?

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    09.01.10, 01:12 PM Flag ]
    • Do a search on this topic, it's been covered exhaustively. Basically, there's no medical reason to do it. Some therefore call it a scam, others say that it doesn't hurt so why not, if you have the money.

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      09.01.10, 01:19 PM Flag
    • no. it's expensive and generally not needed.

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      09.01.10, 01:46 PM Flag
    • no, we donated.

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      09.01.10, 02:57 PM Flag
      • i think everyone should research it...i think we owe it to ourselves to get educated and to the baby we're bringing into this world...found a great site to learn from and then search on the companies that offer cord blood banking. a good site to learn from is factsoncordblood.com easy to understand and it was helpful for me and my husband.

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        11.02.10, 08:48 PM Flag
    • We banked our first baby's blood. I had a crazy doctor for 2nd, so she "forgot" to take the cord blood. I don't know if we'll ever need it, but I figure if my kid got sick with leukemia or something, I would like to have it as an option. I definitely don't think it should be discarded. At least donate it to research or something.

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      11.12.10, 12:28 AM Flag
    • I work for a cord blood bank and can give you the facts behind the over-promotion. See http://cordadvantage.com/cord-blood-blog/2011/5-straight-facts-about-cord-blood-viacord-viacell-and-cord-blood-registry-wont-tell-you/ to find 5 Straight Facts About Cord Blood ViaCord / ViaCell and Cord Blood Registry Won’t Tell You

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      08.18.11, 11:26 PM Flagged
  • [-]Did you or would you bank your baby's cord blood? My OB won't advise me one way or the other but based on internet research, it seems like it might be a waste of money. WWYD?

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    • it is a waste. I was told not by my OB not to waste my money. There are several things that cord blood can NOT cure and it's not worth the astronomical cost. If something is wrong with db, you can have another child and use their cord blood and if you need to do that there is no cost.

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      02.08.10, 03:06 PM Flag
      • I disagree.We banked our sons.My brother banked all 4 of their children's and he is a neurologist and wife is a radiologist.Obviously with their medical background,they think it's important to bank cord blood.Good enough for me.Why would anyone think having another child for their cord blood is easier and a better solution than just paying the $100/year to store the first child's cb?

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        02.08.10, 03:12 PM Flag
      • You have got to be kidding me. Have another DB to fix the first one is a better solution than banking the cord blood in the first place? O.M.G.

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        04.22.10, 09:17 AM Flag
        • np LOL. ITA. And "...there is no cost"?!?!? Viacord is a *little* cheaper than raising a kid for 18 years (even if you don't pay for college).

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          04.23.10, 01:02 PM Flag
    • Thought about it, but didn't bother.

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      02.08.10, 03:13 PM Flag
      • ditto, though I don't have any of the diseases it is useful for in my family history, so it seemed like ridiculous expense for something we will probably never use.

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        04.23.10, 10:14 AM Flag
    • We did, but it wasn't a financial hardship that made it a little easier to decide since it was more just peace of mind.

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      02.08.10, 03:18 PM Flag
    • I did it, and would do it again. It was easy and I don't consider it to be that expensive. I certainly won't if I ever need it. I just never wanted to have to say, " I wish I would have done that." They find new uses for the cord blood all the time. I would do it.

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      02.08.10, 03:31 PM Flag
    • i am wondering the same thing - i have read a lot of research and it seems like the chances of being able to use your own stem cells are minimal. there seems to be more success with cells from outside the family.

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      02.09.10, 07:39 AM Flag
      • we did cord blood for our second, but not our 8 year old. Her dentist told us about the ability to save stem cells from teeth, so after researching it, we did that for her, when she had a tooth coming out. Lower cost, though less developed trials far. As for using your own stem cells, with so many successful examples surfacing now, and 100% compatibility, it's eventually going to be a common method for therapy during our children's lifetimes.

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        04.22.10, 08:23 AM Flag
      • I found the same research, specifically an article in the San Francisco Chronicle, 5 years ago when I was pregnant. I decided that it is a big waste of money. There are some public donation storage options, so if you really want your cord blood to be useful, that is what I would recommend.

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        04.22.10, 09:04 AM Flag
    • We chose not, although I did sign the form in the hospital to donate the cord blood. Turns out somehow there wasn't enough to donate, so it would have been moot.

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      04.22.10, 09:10 AM Flag
    • We did - got pregnant via egg donation and we won't be having a second. History of childhood cancer on husband's side of the family. May be a waste, but that's the nature of this sort of thing - you just don't know going in.

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      04.22.10, 09:16 AM Flag
    • We did, but we could afford it.

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      04.22.10, 09:17 AM Flag
    • I donated the cord blood. In my opinion, it's the best option all the way around. First, you're potentially helping someone else's child. Secondly, you can't use the cord blood for most issues with the same baby. Third, if you donate and need cord blood some day for your child, you get preferential treatment and finally, it doesn't cost anything. I don't know about other NYC hospitals, but at NY Presbyterian, you tell them when you show up to deliver that you want to donate. A day after delivery, someone from the blood bank comes in to ask you a handful of questions and that's that.

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      04.22.10, 09:20 AM Flag
      • i donated as well-the hospital made it very easy to do so

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        04.22.10, 09:24 AM Flag
    • My ob suggested it based on cancer history in family but I think it was because of financial incentives from cord blood company (I love my ob btw). Both pediatricians we consulted (including one whose residency was in genetics) said it was a waste because if anything is wrong with your child that gene therapy could help, the cord blood won't be useful for treating that problem because the problem gene would be in the cord blood anyway. It is more likely to be useful for a sibling, but I think you are almost as likely to find suitable blood from a bank. I think this is the position taken by the AAP; you can check their website. Also keep in mind that the ability to preserve the cord-blood on a long term basis really isn't proven, these c...

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      04.23.10, 09:40 AM Flag
    • I didn't. My OB said it was a waste of $ unless there was a history of leukemia or other blood diseases in the family.

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      04.23.10, 09:53 AM Flag
    • We did it, even though we knew there was a very low likelihood that we would ever need it. We had no problem affording it, and figured it was cheap "schmuck insurance"... that is, insurance against feeling like a schmuck 20 years from now if DC had awful injury/disease that could be cured using her cord blood due to scientific advances that don't exist today.

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      04.23.10, 10:00 AM Flag
    • You can donate your cord blood to a shared bank or to research. Doesn't cost anything, but may help someone else.

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      04.23.10, 10:31 AM Flag
    • We donated both of our children's cord blood. I really feel like that should be standard practice. I know it isn't but the best place to start is with yourself.

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      04.23.10, 12:58 PM Flag
    • Yes, we did. It wasn't cheap and we are not wealthy or even UMC, but I would never have forgiven myself if I had the opportunity to do it and didn't and she needed it. Not a waste of money IMO.

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      04.23.10, 06:23 PM Flag
    • The American Academy of Pediatrics says not to unless you have another child with health problems. You can donate it. Then you can use the chord blood from that bank, if you ever need it. If your child is sick and could benefit from chord blood, it would probably have to be another person's chord blood (since that problem is also in the chord blood). IT is a waste of money to bank your child's own chord blood. We donated our chord blood. Totally free.

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      04.23.10, 06:55 PM Flag
      • ^^ i misspelled 'cord' that whole time. time for bed!

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        04.23.10, 07:01 PM Flag
    • it's a total scam. donate it to a public bank. you'll have a much better chance of finding a match in a public bank than being able to use your own child's blood for themselves. There are SO few things you can actually use it for. Doctors use it because they get a kick back. I'm an OB RN.

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      04.23.10, 07:34 PM Flag
      • If there is even one thing you can use it for, and you end up needing it, then it is not a "total scam."

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        04.23.10, 09:20 PM Flag
    • cord blood is useful to treat a few diseases at this time, and its usually used for siblings - NOT the actual donor child. i would donate - in fact, i think its standard to donate at my hospital now.

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      04.23.10, 08:20 PM Flag
    • donate it! i did with both my kids. it can be put to use for people who need it now.

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      04.24.10, 05:09 AM Flag
    • I work for Americord Registry and we have better pricing for cord blood banking than our competitors. Please see http://cordadvantage.com/product-comparison.html for a pricing comparison.

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      08.18.11, 11:56 PM Flagged
  • [-]does your ob charge to collect cord blood (whether for private or public banking)? mine charges $300. making me re-think public banking.

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    • mine did not charge but I had my dcs in 2001 &2003 so maybe doctors are more commonly charging for it now? But it really does not take much time at all so I'm not sure why they'd charge so much for it.

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      01.30.10, 12:45 PM Flag
    • is $300 in addition to the fee the blood bank charges?

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      01.30.10, 12:55 PM Flag
      • op: yes. but i was planning on donating to a public bank, so no fee there.

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        01.30.10, 05:54 PM Flag
    • when i delivered in 2005, there were no drs fees associated with collecting cord blood. cornell ny hospital, fwiw

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      01.30.10, 12:59 PM Flag
    • What hospital is this? I was planning to donate but not for $300. Haven't talked to my OB about it yet--only 12 weeks now.

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      01.30.10, 01:13 PM Flag
      • op: not the hospital, but my ob who will do the collection.

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        01.30.10, 05:54 PM Flag
    • I went to NYU and there was no charge. I donated it and it wasn't a problem (in 2009). That is really odd that your doc is charging you. I have had several friends donate and it didn't cost anything... will your insurance pay for it? I'd have to say that this is the exception and not the rule. Honestly, I strongly believe in donating cord blood, but for 300, I'd have to say no.

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      01.30.10, 02:43 PM Flag
      • op: i will call insurance on monday, but ob's office led me to believe no. i also believe in donating cord blood to a public bank, but like you don't think i want to have to pay $300 to do so.

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        01.30.10, 05:57 PM Flag
      • If you DONATE it, most don't charge. If you want it to bank for yourself, there's generally a charge.

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        01.30.10, 05:58 PM Flag
    • yes. she charged $300.

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      01.30.10, 03:01 PM Flag
    • It makes sense that there is some sort of charge - after all the hospital needs to provide the materials and do the initial work - but not sure about the amount and if you should be the one covering it!!

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      01.30.10, 06:07 PM Flag
      • I did private banking and neither my ob or hospital charged. You come in with the kit from the bank and the ob just puts the cord blood in. The bank sends someone to pick it up.

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        01.30.10, 07:12 PM Flag
    • No charge. 2008. NYDH.

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      01.30.10, 06:48 PM Flag
    • Yes, both times. In the city in 2006 and on the island in 2009.

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      01.30.10, 06:56 PM Flag
      • ^^^ CBR will reimburse you for half the cost if you provide documentation that you submitted it to your insurance company and then were rejected reimbursement. Go their website if they are the ones you're using.

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        01.30.10, 07:01 PM Flag
    • Hi ! I work for Americord Registry, a cord blood bank. Please look out for our upcoming Cord Advantage product launch that saves many more stem cells as compared to cord blood banking alone. Also, we have better pricing than most of our competitors. www.cordadvantage.com

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      08.18.11, 11:57 PM Flagged
  • [-]Anyone know anyone whose child ended up having problems b/c they were on antidepressants during pregnancyor breastfeeding?

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    • no, but i do no children who ended up having problems b/c their mothers were not on antidepressants during pregnancy/breastfeeding/childhood but should have been.

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      06.06.08, 05:31 PM Flag
    • I am/was on antidepressants throughout pregnancy and nursing

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      06.06.08, 05:32 PM Flag
    • Okay to take wellbutrin, a low dose (150mg) and breastfeed? One psychiatrist put me on it, but then I switched doctors and the new doctor is giving me hell about it. She actually said, " Personally, I wouldn't be on wellbutrin if I were breastfeeding." Just want some other opinions. Seems like not enough research has been done on this particular drug.

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      08.14.11, 02:07 PM Flag
    • Thats why I didnt breastfeed. I had to be on the anti depressants through pregnancy but when it came to breast feeding there was more of choice. I though better formula than tainted breast milk.. Just me

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      08.14.11, 02:10 PM Flag
      • That's the choice I'd make for sure. If I needed the medication, I would just use formula.

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        08.14.11, 02:16 PM Flag
    • Thanks for your input. Baby's 3 months now and is developing great. Pediatrician, OB and 1st shrink all gave me the green light. But I can't help worrying about it and now I've decided to self-wean. DH wants me to stay on it:)

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      08.14.11, 02:15 PM Flag
      • I think you mean "wean"? A DB self-weans, the mom weans the DB. That's great your DB is going so well, and good for sticking with it for 3 mos. Keep in mind that in another month or two DB will start solids, and gradually the BM (or formula) will be a smaller percentage of daily calories. That means even less of drug entering your BM (to the extent that there is any now). Also as DB puts on more weight, it's even less likely to affect him (again, to the extent there is any impact now, which appears not to be). Good luck whatever you decide.

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        08.14.11, 02:34 PM Flag
      • Mom who didnt breastfeed. It will be fine. It just gave me something else to obsess about that I didnt want to. my Dr. discouraged me due to the meds. But i Have yet to hear a bad story. In some ways i am sorry I didnt do it...

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        08.14.11, 07:26 PM Flag
  • [-]Can't ask my friends this because they'll think I'm really dumb. If I want to make some baby food purees for 6 month old DB, should I use the food processor (which has blades that are annoying to clean), get an immersion blender, or what? I WOH and have been buying Earth's Best jars but would like to prepare some homemade purees and store in freezer. TIA!

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    • I used a regular blender. It worked fine.

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      08.05.11, 04:47 PM Flag
    • Why do you want to make more work for yourself? EB is perfectly fine!

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      08.05.11, 04:47 PM Flag
      • OR from above. I agree, EB is great, but it's not really that much work to make the food. You make a few batches over a weekend and you're done. FWIW, I did this for a few months, DB wouldn't eat it, and then I switched to Happy Tot pouches, which DB now eats and loves.

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        08.05.11, 04:51 PM Flag
      • 'Cause it's fun! I just made a few batches, so easy. I use a small food processor. Easy to clean, easy to use.

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        08.05.11, 04:59 PM Flag
    • I used a blender and then this little mini food processor/immersion blender contraption.

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      08.05.11, 04:48 PM Flag
    • Have you seen the commercials for the Baby Bullet? I want it. It smiles at you all the time.

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      08.05.11, 04:49 PM Flag
      • I have a food mill. You could use an immersion blender, absolutely. Just steam whatever veg/fruit you want and purée. Avocado's and bananas only need to be smushed with a fork. A monkey could do it.

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        08.05.11, 05:07 PM Flag
    • Thanks all! Would love to at least try to make food for DB so this is all helpful.

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      08.05.11, 05:15 PM Flag
      • For what it's worth, I never made special food. I just took whatever was for dinner and put a bit in the blender w/water, stock or milk. My dd ate that and loved it.

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        08.05.11, 05:25 PM Flag
      • Fruits are particularly easy, I just made and froze some combos of mango, peach, blueberry and strawberry today. So delicious!

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        08.05.11, 05:33 PM Flag
    • You should get the beaba steamer/food processor. It's so easy!

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      08.05.11, 05:59 PM Flag
    • do not use glass jars to freeze the baby food in. the freezing process can cause tiny cracks in the glass, which may lead to little shards in the food when you defrost it. use ice cube trays and pop out the cubes, then defrost.

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      08.07.11, 04:29 PM Flag
    • Immersion blender is the best for baby food. So fast and easy clean up.

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      08.07.11, 05:00 PM Flag
    • I used a blender that was easy to clean. You don't need something as powerful as a food processor. IDA with those who say to use canned food. It doesn't taste nearly as good, it's more expensive and it's more wasteful. If you do a big batch on Sunday afternoon, you can just reheat during the week. Very easy.

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      08.08.11, 01:56 AM Flag
    • It is so easy to make purees and they are so, so much more appetizing than the stuff in the EB jars (no flames on this, not saying EB food is bad for baby...homemade purees are just more appetizing). I used a blender. Either steamed or roasted fruits & veggies. Roasting brings out the flavors, preserves more nutrients. Don't get the baby food makers (Beaba, bullet, etc). You are making purees for such a short amount of time, its not worth it.

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      08.09.11, 08:19 AM Flag
  • [-]BEST MOHELS FOR A BRIS IN LONG ISLAND OR NEW YORK CITY???

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    • please do a search. it's been discussed.

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      01.21.09, 05:27 PM Flag
    • Dr. Eric Diamond was great! Baby didn't cry. He arrived an hour early to set up and even called us the next day. We were very pleased with him. We have heard horror stories about other circumcisions from friends so we made sure to get a MOHEL who is also a UROLOGIST. We were very happy with him.

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      01.21.09, 05:29 PM Flag
    • Used Dr. Diamond. was happy with the results.

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      01.21.09, 05:30 PM Flag
    • hey, dr. d, stop self-promoting

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      01.21.09, 05:31 PM Flag
      • a happy customer, not dr. d. He just did my sons bris and wouldnt take a dime from us because my husband just lost his job. thought it was the least I could do since im up all night with a baby anyway. was very happy with him, and so was my sister who used him last year for my nephews bris.

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        01.21.09, 06:11 PM Flag
        • What is the least you could do? Post a fake question, so you can answer it and say something nice about your doctor?

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          12.06.09, 09:01 PM Flag
          • NP: Jeeze could you be nastier?

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            11.08.10, 06:27 PM Flag
    • By far the highest recommended Mohel in New York - and real professional, is Rabbi Friedman of NYmohel-dot-com He has many letters of recommendations on his website. He is very popular - so you must book him early.

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      01.23.09, 08:31 AM Flag
    • We used Dr. Rick Roberts (TheRoyalMohel.com). He was great!!!

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      12.06.09, 08:58 PM Flag
      • Very accomodating.....Very patient!!..answered all of our questions before and after the ceremony.

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        11.06.10, 02:03 PM Flag
    • We used Dr.Jeffrey Mazlin, a New York OB/GYN Reform Mohel. We also used him again for our second son! We couldn't be happier! His website is www.NYMohelMD.com.

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      01.14.10, 11:10 AM Flag
    • zimmerman just did our sons bris, very happy with results... in brooklyn

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      11.08.10, 06:13 PM Flag
    • For our ceremony, we went with Dr. Steven Sherwin. Very professional and personable, would recommend to others, stevensherwinmd.com.

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      08.09.11, 07:48 AM Flag
  • [-]db's pediatrician is so virulently opposed to co-cleeping that i lied and told him we stopped.

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    • why is it bad ?

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      11.05.06, 06:34 PM Flag
      • b/ c you can roll over and kill db

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        11.05.06, 06:34 PM Flag
        • We love our Arm's Reach co-sleeper. Surely your ped would have no objection to that.

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          11.05.06, 06:35 PM Flag
          • ^bassinet that attaches evenly to the bed

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            11.05.06, 06:38 PM Flag
          • believe it or not, he did! and our db has outgrown our arm's reach but we loved it too.

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            11.05.06, 06:38 PM Flag
        • although it is extremely unlikely. SIDS is much more common than overlying.

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          11.05.06, 06:35 PM Flag
          • OP: is the incidence of SIDS higher, do you know, with co-sleeping? if so i might change my mind on this.

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            11.05.06, 06:38 PM Flag
            • No, actually in countries where cosleeping is the norm, the SIDS rate is much higher. Also, the new AAP recommendation includes sleep sharing, as in sleeping in the same room but not in the same bed. So weird. Google James McKenna Notre Dame Sleep laboratory. Tons of great info about co-sleeping! GL!

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              11.05.06, 06:40 PM Flag
              • OP: big thanks!

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                11.05.06, 06:41 PM Flag
                • My pleasure! Peds who are way out of their league really bug me! Don't let him tell you how to parent, all you need him for is to keep your DC healthy.

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                  11.05.06, 06:47 PM Flag
      • OP: he seems to strongly feel that db's need their own space and that there should be a delineaiton bt the parent and child that way. i understand but don't agree.

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        11.05.06, 06:36 PM Flag
        • And its fine for that to be his opinion. What's not fine is if he can't accept that is not your opinion. He is not right just because he is a doctor, its subjective.

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          11.05.06, 06:37 PM Flag
    • i would look for a pediatrician that has views more in line with yours.

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      11.05.06, 06:34 PM Flag
    • my first ped was the same way. We are much happier now with our ped who co-slept himself.

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      11.05.06, 06:34 PM Flag
    • you need to change pedidatrician. you can't lie to your ped

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      11.05.06, 06:34 PM Flag
    • global peds?

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      11.05.06, 06:35 PM Flag
      • nope. cornell.

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        11.05.06, 06:36 PM Flag
        • interesting. our ped at global is very against it too.

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          11.05.06, 06:41 PM Flag
        • which one? we go there too

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          11.05.06, 06:43 PM Flag
    • any ped who is not in line is going against standard practice and medical guidelines. if something happens, he can get sued. if any ped says to cosleep, run the other way.

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      08.05.11, 01:50 PM Flag
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