We knew we could count on you Sam, like you as a supporter I am going nowhere. The next Team should be in central Queensland. Let's go Broncos 2011.

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All the more reason why we need a 2nd Brisbane team. There's already a fierce rivalry brewing - and they don't even exist yet!

Comment 2 of 57

A 2nd NRL team in Brisbane could be very exciting for rugby league. My concern is to provide N.Z. fans with a local "derby" fixture & an exciting "Origin"style series. A 2nd team in N.Z. is needed to provide opportunities for the rugby/league players ,without so many having to either play rugby ,or move off-shore.

Comment 3 of 57

Brisbane area needs another club even though just down the road are the very successful Titans on the Coast. The population has increased enough in the past 20 years to support such an idea. As for money, scrap the salary cap as that is not leveling out the NRL competition but rather restricting Rugby League. There are enough billionaires in this world with the cash to buy or set up and sell a club, and one of the worst things to do in this part of the world, from the game's point of view, is to let the Broncos have a monopoly.

Comment 4 of 57

Sounds like Broncos players and others trying ot scuttle a second team before itgets started. Brisbane is large enough for a second team. It might lower the egos of some over at Ashgrove but its good for the game.

Comment 5 of 57

Yes put in a second, third and a fourth team in Brisbane. Let's be just like Sydney and have a whole bunch of have-not teams !!! An even better idea is to get out of the NRL and have our own Brisbane comp. Oh wait there is it's called the Qld cup. The problem with the NRL is there are too many teams in small areas. Move a couple of teams out of Sydney to Adelaide, Perth, and make the game a truly National league. As a "National" league the NRL is a joke.

Comment 6 of 57

No way to another Brisbane club ! Ipswich yes, Central Qld yes, even a team in PNG but in Brisbane city no way.

Comment 7 of 57

Bring on that second Brisbane team, it would be nice to follow a local team again!!

Comment 8 of 57

I am all for a second team in Brisbane. I think it has the potential to be one of the best rivalries ever in the game. The only thing i have an issue with is the idea the the second team would play out of Suncorp too. ANZ Stadium should be used as the new teams ground, that way you would create a greater home ground advantage to both teams.

Comment 9 of 57

I've always wondered how a second Brisbane team could possibly be competitive in the fan market beside the goliath that is the Broncos. The Broncos have a bigger fanbase in Australia than any other domestic sporting team across all codes. How can a second Brisbane team ever be more than that - second. My solution: we saw a lot of terribly run and funded clubs have to merge post-super league. Can the reverse happen? If we have a well run, highly funded team, could we split the Broncos into two NRL teams? Sounds a bit ridiculous on the surface, but hear me out. From the perspective of a shareholder, they now have more revenue. In the short term, doubling the teams would not double the money coming in, but long term I believe it would. Even so, in the short term there is plenty of money in Brisbane to supprt two teams, we know this - always have. Wont this destroy the Broncos brand? This is the biggest risk. Turning long time Broncos fans away from the game, because their team doesn't exist anymore. Any splitting of the Broncos must maintain deep ties to the Broncos. Small things like colours and/or mascots. One team could sport yellow and white, the other maroon and navy. TBC.

Comment 10 of 57

Sam is right to pour scorn on the wish list of the proposed club. They should have to build from scratch like the Broncoes did in 1988 ;)

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Part 2 A logo that still bore some part of a broncos or similar horse. It's a shame the Knights are taken, that would've suited one team. Maybe the Caviliers vs Bushrangers...I dunno. So where to divide the Broncos? Probably the easiest question. Geograpically, North and South of the River. Maybe even extend these boundaries to North Brisbane and Sunshine Coast vs South Brisbane and Ipswich. I also think it would be critical to link these split-Broncos teams to existing traditional BRL/Qld cup teams. In doing so, we now increase the number of fans per team. Simply splitting the Broncos, means you have (on average) half the fans for each team. But by linking to old clubs in specific regions, the fan base increases. Remember, many older Brisbane residents wont support the Broncos, because they turned thier back on the BRL comp, and sold out to the NSWRL. Here's a chance to get those guys back. I have many more thoughts on the pros and cons of such an idea. Just putting it out into the public realm for it to either get shot down or gain momentum.

Comment 12 of 57

Whatever this is not good for the game lets go and strangle every club in the comp like sydney how does the N stand for National its not bloody national this game is a joke even though i love it they need to give NQ a team after all it is there national sport up there Gallop has no idea Make the game National for gods sake.

Comment 13 of 57

Brisbane could not sustain a second team, Rocky, Ipswich or even Toowoomba would be better served with an NRL team in their region. The supporter base in those regions are larger and it would only be a good thing for junior participation in those regions.

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Hey Jimbo - the Broncos HQ is at Red Hill, not Ashgrove, and always has been.

Comment 15 of 57

I agree with Mervyn of Cuthbert ... We need a second team in NZL (Wellington) and also a second Brizzy side is a plus.

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Steve the Broncos are not going Broke like the tigers and the dragons thats the most stupid idea i have ever heard and i hope im not alone there i doubt you are the biggest broncos fan ever with a stupid idea like that and you spread your dumb arse idea on the net too seriously mate!!!

Comment 17 of 57

Just the story you expect from the Courier Mail, who own the Broncos. There will be a propaganda war in these pages against any new team in Brisbane that threatens the monopoly of the Broncos.

Comment 18 of 57

The Broncs have had it too good for too long. A monopoly on fans, sponsors and players have made them a monster that a second Bris based team would find it hard/impossible to compete with. The prospect of a NZ, South Island v North Island local derby is fairly mouth watering but I love to see an Ipswich team in the NRL. Games between Ippy and the Broncs would be like fibros v silvertails all over again!

Comment 19 of 57

I hope the Broncos are as committed to Sam as he is to them? Sam has had a couple of great years in 09'& 10'. But the Broncos have a history of showing ageing players the door pretty early. It would be interesting what would happen if Sam picked up a major injury or had an extended period of poor form. I bet you'd find the Broncos wouldn't be as committed to Sam as he is to them. I wonder how'd he feel about the club then?

Comment 20 of 57

BJ mate just another Broncos knocker. If Ipswich had a team their salary cap would be the same as the Broncos (oops back to the cheap seats)- when Manly were the sivertails that was not the case.

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Steve, I can suggest which part of the horse to put on the logo but that would probably upset you poor donkey supporters. Be lucky to make the eight again in 2011. And stupid idea, the dragons are not going broke so I suggest you check you facts before making comment.

Comment 22 of 57

Totally agree with Stupid idea!!!! of brisbane, Steve you should stop thinking. Keep Brisbane to one team. Expand the league,Ipswich, sunshine coast. Its meant to be National why not WA,NT even second NZ team plenty of good young players coming out of there.

Comment 23 of 57

If the Broncos of 2011 perform like the team of 2010 there'll be plenty of room for a second team. I suspect Broncos season seats will be available on ebay by the hundreds. Broncos fans are seat warmers at Suncorp Stadium. They buy a ticket to a seat at a game of football not a club membership. For crying out loud you get classified as a member if you buy a seat to 4 games - pfffft. I'd suspect many "members" have never been to the THE club or the THE training field. The Broncos like Suncorp when the Broncos supporters are there, are an empty, soulless place unlike other clubs. You get twice the support from half the crowd at the gold coast. There is a plenty of room for another empty soulless footy club in Brisbane. You can only hope it doesn't kill the second best comp in australia for the second time!

Comment 24 of 57

This entire bid is a joke. Nothing but names with no actual substance. No planning. No foresight and no information. The W.A. Reds & Central Coast Bears for 2013!

Comment 25 of 57

hey leo i think maybe the broncos had the easiest job of starting a league side considering they had the whole brisbane comp to choose from no salary cap. they just about signed the whole origin team. trying doing that today.

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Pikelet of Brisbane - do you even read what your saying? how has the broncos have a history of showing ageing players the door here are a few players who have palyed at the broncos well into there twilight years, Lockeyer, Gee, Langer, Walters, webeke ect if anything there one of the only clubs who show some loyalty.

Comment 27 of 57

this bid makes no sense. it's a bunch of rich men who seems to know very little about compiling a bid together. no community engagement. no research. no support. get your unions players and see how quickly this bundle drops. for the record, I believe a central coast bears and western aussie reds are the teams the NRL needs for 2013.

Comment 28 of 57

Brisbane is at the moment the self proclaimed heartland of rugby league , yet here we have people ( mostly Broncos fans ) saying that Brisbane can't sustain 2 teams which would mean 1 game of league in Brisbane a week . This is either selfishness on behalf of Broncos fans or a gross exaggeration on behalf of the Brisbane rugby league public .

Comment 29 of 57

As I have said before , we could support another 3 teams in QLD, but we have to cut or relocate the dead wood teams in Sydney. there just is not enough 1st grade standered players to fill more teams. 9 teams in Sydney is just crazy.

Comment 30 of 57

Hmmm, sounds to me like the Broncos are scared that this new team could play better than them, and that Broncos may lose some of their 'shine'. Well news flash for you boys, you lost your shine a while ago.

Comment 31 of 57

Which one of Bundaberg, Spot on. The Crushers had an average home crowd at Lang Park of over 21,000 and were at the bottom of the ladder. If Brisbane cant support two teams then the Nrl may as well give up on expansion.

Comment 32 of 57

Of course the NRL will admit the club in their anti-QLD agenda to try and weaken the Broncos. In 1997 we got rid of the Crushers, and now they're again trying to weaken the greatest club in history. Pathetic for them to even consider it.

Comment 33 of 57

hey bronco sam what about lewis, gilmeister, miles, dowling, johns, petro, matterson all these players were sent packing before their time was up. and for all you bronco supporters for everyone of you there are two who hate the broncos and would look forward to being able to support a true brisbane side. after all it was the broncos that made sure the crushes were kicked out of the comp, thats why the broncos are worried cause they know the support is there for a second team.

Comment 34 of 57

Which one ?... You're too kind saying there would be a game a week here because often there isn't a game in Brisbane for 3 to 4 weeks. There is no guarantee that there wouldn't be doubleheaders or what happens if they are both drawn for a 7:30 slot for a home game? After all its the NRL organizing the draw or its derivative the "independent commission" [in small but capital letters of New South Wales] The NRL have a habit of stuffing things up. Its derivative has no form to say they won't be as bad. They could be even worse. It's the rugby League heartland in name only. Fans come to see winners e.g. Qld SoO. Begs the question what will happen if the Broncos miss the eight again doesn't it! And one of the reasons for the name is that there is a starvation diet and fans have little interest in the local Queensland comp, which is far better than the rubbish served up as a curtain raiser [the NYC] at NRL grounds. The NRL should pay fans to watch the NYC or at least require a discount on the exorbitant food prices at grounds for the duration of the fixture. Hmm there's an idea for the commission improving the food cost!

Comment 35 of 57

Bring back the BEARS!!!

Comment 36 of 57

Brisbane 2 makes no sense and will make limited dollars regardless of the size of the city. Unless we convert the large asian population into NRL fans then keep it moving and head to another area. The Central Coast Bears bid has apparently 5500 members (financial).. if any bid has the community push, they are it. W.A. Reds and CQ are not far behind.

Comment 37 of 57

no no no. this entire bid has become a joke. first wayne bennett doesn't think its a good idea, now they are trying to get union stars? c'mon just move over and give the franchise licenses to the bids that deserve it. the central coast bears and central qld bulls.

Comment 38 of 57

Andrew of Brisbane what are you on? you are joking. The very reason that the Crushers got the flick under the negotiated peace at the end of the League war was so that the Broncos had an uncontested market for so many years. In other words to have a monopoly on the second largest rugby league market in the world. It would be good to have another team in Brisbane. After all it is the second largest rugby league city in the world.

Comment 39 of 57

Andru The Crushers killed themselves with pooor management, marketing over paying has beens that did nothing for the club. Mario Fenech and an ex rugby union has been could tell you that. And the fact they were a poor team. Maybe if they had built a decent club from the outset with good planning and business skill and done as well as the Broncos first up they might still be here. Your argument is a little redundant.

Comment 40 of 57

A santa wish list? What, like most Brisbane squads before 2007? Have a look at some of those teams from the 1990s and early 2000s and wonder how they managed to keep below the salary cap. A second team is a must - this is not a one horse town....

Comment 41 of 57

hey Jus I believe it is a fact the when the superleague and ARL formed the NRL the BRONCOS would only sign on if they were the only team in Brisbane. it is also a fact that the crushes had plenty of money and support for a team that wasnt winning they still averaged 21000 supporters a game. so your argument is ill informed.

Comment 42 of 57

Guess what Sam and other Bronco player geniuses??? A player hit list is not designed to sign EVERY player on the list !! Its a wish list where a club will target those players on it and hope to get a few. But I guess being smug is part and parcel of being in the Bronco's envioronment. They did their best to death ride the Crushers when they came in and are making sure they do the same to the mere thought of another team. Hope they get in and outdo the Bronco's.

Comment 43 of 57

Sustainability is not an issue as the proposal is 2013 and beyond. Three to five years into the comp (at minimum - the time allowed for a successful business plan), it will be 2018 of which the population in South East Queensland would be a lot higher than it is now. This means more opportunities for sponsorship increased fan base and more importantly a second team in Brisbane to invest in and develop juniors. Everyone knows that the Broncos is as much a business as it is a football team and will be doing everything to maintain the success of the business including 'doing better than the competition' - hence the comments from Call me on Friday Thaiday.

Comment 44 of 57

Pretty sure the broncos will be the longest surviving club in the future, so bring it on

Comment 45 of 57

I don't think there will be a 2nd Brissy team. CQ should get the team I know it would prosper based in Rocky. All the Bronco bashers starting early this year, you need to move on and stop blaming the Broncos for your sad life. It's not their fault that nobody likes you.

Comment 46 of 57

Ahhhh can't wait for a second team. I would love to have pride in my city and support a local team, but having only the Broncos, whom I can't stand, and it gives me a chance now. Stir up the rivalry between the teams and bring more excitement in to the game, the state and our city. 2013 baby!!!!!!

Comment 47 of 57

Of course Brisbane can support a second rugby league team! Brisbane is league mad! But that isn't the question that needs to be answered. The question is - is it a good idea? Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should be done. We have rugby league heartlands without a team at all crying out for their own team, and we have AFL enemy territory to expand in to if the NRL is to actually beleive in its own "N". A second team in Brissie may well be a good idea but not until these other things are taken care of. To put a team where there is already a team when other places have no team and want one, is absurdity of the highest order.

Comment 48 of 57

When NZ get 35-40,000 people to the Warriors match EVERY home game, then maybe then they can have a 2nd team. Until then, keep dreamin' cuz.

Comment 49 of 57

Central Queensland,Ipswich,Central coast NSW and WA Reds the perfect expansion.Bring it on Rugby League the Greatest Game Of All !

Comment 50 of 57

@ Comment 11, The Broncos did not build from scratch, mate they nearly had an Australia Rep Team on the paddock. You obviously were not a Broncos fan back then or maybe just to young to know. Google the 1988 team and have a look.

Comment 51 of 57

This is why we need a second team - pure arrogance by these hot shots at the Broncos. Watch people line up to support the new team....bring it on.

Comment 52 of 57

all this talk about having a team here in brissy or nz....why not expand to reigons like darwin, adelaide or perth?...if league want to grow the game they have to think outside the box. Otherwise people will get sick and tired of nsw and qld dominating the nrl.

Comment 53 of 57

Good on you Sam. Booked my trip & accommodation to Brisbane today for Broncos V Cowboys, rnd one. Can't wait. GO BRONCOS 2011. From your fans in Rockhampton.

Comment 54 of 57

This is the very reason why Sydney footy crowd figures are down. Just total saturation of the market by having too many teams running from the same location. Also, there simply isn't enough corporate sponsorship dollars to go around to make such a proposal a viable long-term solution. The NRL needs to take the approach adopted by the AFL - start expanding into larger capital cities, such as Perth.

Comment 55 of 57

a second team in brisbane won't work. the crushers worked well didn't it

Comment 56 of 57

To all those Brisbane people who say "get a second team cause it will be nice to be able to support a real Brisbane team" - please explain what you mean by that. I have never understood why Brisbane people hate the Broncos so much. They have been nothing but good for the development of RL in Brisbane and Qld as a whole and for the development of jnr players. They do so much good in the community and are Brisbane through & through. They are also responsible for a lot of good changes to the way the sport is run in Australia. Could it be you are jealous the Broncos are the most successful and recognisable sporting brand (that's taking into account all sports) in the country and they are the only RL club that actually turns a profit? The medicore often hate the great. Re the proposed playing roster for the new team, you have to firstly discount Quade Cooper and SBW from the salary cap - as union converts they will be exempt for at least their first year. As to whether Brisbane should have a 2nd team? Brisbane cannot financially (ie corporate sponsorship) afford a 2nd team. All a 2nd team would do is dilute the product and result in 2 medicore teams not 1 great team as we have now.

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