Dominic Lawson: The population timebomb is a myth

The doom-sayers are becoming more fashionable just as experts are coming to the view it has all been one giant false alarm.

The human appetite for bad news knows no bounds. That is why gossip is usually malicious and why, on a grander scale, prophets of doom are always guaranteed a credulous audience. Conversely, good news – however well attested – is generally squeezed in the margins of newspapers.

For example, The Independent buried in a few paragraphs a story with the headline "Population growth not a threat, say engineers". But at least The Independent found some space to cover the publication of a report last week by the Institution of Mechanical Engineers entitled Population: One Planet, Too Many People? – I could find nothing about it in other newspapers.

The reason for that distinct lack of column inches is that the institution answered its own question in the negative. No, there are not (and will never be) too many people for the planet to feed. As the report's lead author, Dr Tim Fox, pointed out, its verdict is not based on speculative guesses about the development of new agricultural processes as yet unknown: "We can meet the challenge of feeding a planet of 9 billion people through the application of existing technologies". For example, Dr Fox pointed out, in Africa, no less than half the food produced is destroyed before it reaches its local marketplace: with refrigeration and good roads, the developing world could avoid this horrendous waste.

Interestingly, another detailed report on "sustainability" published last week by the French national agricultural and development research agencies came up with the same answer. The French scientists set themselves the goal of discovering whether a global population of 9 billion, the likely peak according to the UN, could readily have access to 3,000 calories a day, even as farms take measures to cut down on the use of fossil fuels and refrain from cutting down more forests: their answer was, you will be thrilled to know, "yes".

Some people will not be so thrilled. There is an increasingly noisy claque of Malthusians who insist that an "exploding" global population (as they put it) is going to lead to disaster – from Boris Johnson to Joanna Lumley, not to mention Jeremy Irons and Prince Charles. For example, last weekend The Independent published a lengthy interview with the Bermuda-based philanthropist James Martin, who has given Oxford University $125m to set up a forecasting institute in his name. Mr Martin's own forecast is that "by mid-century we're going to be using the term 'giga-famine', meaning a famine where more than a billion people will die, a catastrophe on a scale that's never been known before on Earth."

Martin sounds uncannily like Paul Ehrlich, the secular saint of the neo-Malthusian movement. Back in the 1970s, Ehrlich's book The Population Bomb became a global best-seller on the back of his forecast that by the end of the century even the United States would be enduring mass famine and that there was no better than a 50 per chance of anyone remaining alive in Great Britain by the year 2000. You might have thought that events would have discredited Ehrlich as a forecaster, but he is still constantly cited as an authority by the population control freaks, and is himself remarkably unbothered by the fact that agricultural techniques had rapidly developed in a way which he was unable to envisage. Asked in 2000 about his prediction of a wipe-out of the UK by famine, he replied: "If you look closely at England, what can I tell you? They're having all kinds of problems just like everybody else." If his original forecast had merely been that "The world – including Britain – will have all kinds of problems", I somehow doubt he would have found a publisher.

One reason why the population doomsters have come out in force in recent weeks is that, according to the UN Population Division, this year will see the number of living inhabitants hit the figure of 7 billion; or according to an imaginative piece of global palm-reading by The Guardian: "Later this year, on 31 October to be precise, a boy will be born in a rural village in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh. His parents will not know it, but his birth will prove to be a considerable landmark for our species as his arrival will mark the moment when the human population reaches 7 billion."

Or it might not; but we get the drift: lacking only the prognosticated presence of three wise men from the East, this is a Big Moment. It's also not a bad moment, either for the parents (they'll probably be delighted it's a boy) or for the planet. While the misanthropic Malthusians will gloomily see his arrival as just "another mouth to feed", he might more charitably be seen as another human whose ingenuity, creativity and intellect can be of benefit to the world.

As a matter of fact the population doom-sayers among the media and showbusiness are becoming more fashionable just as the experts are coming round to the view that it has all been one giant false alarm. This year National Geographic magazine is making population its theme; but its lengthy opening essay was notable for its lack of alarmism. It quoted Hania Zlotnik, the director of the UN's Population Division, saying: "We still don't understand why fertility has gone down so fast in so many societies, so many cultures and religions. It's just mind-boggling. At this moment, much as I want to say there's still a problem of high fertility rates, it's only about 16 per cent of the world's population, mostly in Africa."

The most fashionable of all arguments for some sort of global anti-natalist legislation comes in the form of professed concern for the atmosphere – too many people produce too much CO2, thus damaging the planet via climate change. The Malthusians have seized on this as grist to their mill, having been refuted on every other argument. Yet Joel Cohen, the professor of populations at Columbia University's Earth Institute, told National Geographic: "Those who say the whole problem is population are wrong. It's not even the dominant factor."

Apart from anything else, the developed world, which uses vastly more energy per capita than sub-Saharan Africa (the only part of the globe with high fertility rates), is going through a period of rapid demographic decline. As Matt Ridley, the author of The Rational Optimist, pointed out last week, the world's population is not "exploding" but growing at 1 per cent a year, and the actual number of people added to the figure each year has been dropping for more than 20 years.

Still, morbid pessimism about the ability of the Earth to support its population has always been with us. In AD200, Tertullian wrote: "We are burdensome to the world; the resources are scarcely adequate for us." Of course, the resources of the planet are not, in the purely mathematical sense, infinite; but neither is the population.

This thought ought to be of some cheer; but I fear that even if the entire world of science and engineering accepts this form of rational optimism, it will not change the mind of a single Malthusian. They've been wrong for so long. Why stop now?

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  • VicB3
    Well, yes, but just because you can feed 10 billion or so people isn't the same thing as saying that having 10 billion or so people is a good idea. Technological advancement requires attendant cultural changes on the part of the various premodern cultures globally, including not having as many kids as you possibly can. Otherwise the economic advances technology offers are offset by the various social stresses and economic caused by overcrowding. Conversly, a lowering population with those same tech advances results in economic advancement and even further technological progress. Entire books - and not of the hysterical doomsday variety mind you - have been written on this subjsect. Anybody who's interested should examine the effect that the Black Death had on technological, economic and cultural advancement in Europe in the 15th-17th Centuries. Just a thought. VicB3
  • robhardy
    550 million tonnes of humanity approximately, rather less than the mass of the earths ants or termites according to most calculations. Still quite a lot for a single species. I dare say we can continue to feed ourselves for a while yet, but we are terribly dependent on a only a few species of food plant. Someday some bacterium, or fungus is going to take one away from us and then we shall relearn the tough realities of life on Earth.
  • Hipop
    Ok lets accept that a population of 9 billion technically can be fed from reducing waste food and some sort of agricultural revolution but it doesnt mean that will be the outcome. The majority of scientists after years of research into climate change told us that we are releasing too much C02.We thought the countries of the world would unite to reduce emissions to stay below 2C. How wrong we were. Dominic Lawson wants to be more cautious in his comments.
  • robhardy
    To be honest we have barely tried, one large scale experimental machine world wide at the moment. Compared to the scale of WW2 and Cold War military research the fusion project has always been a shoestring affair. But it is no panacea, all the indications are that if it is possible it will be expensive in materials and effort and probably give us nearly as many contaminated waste problem as fission power.
  • finsburyparker
    Replying to JoeBauwens 'I rely on your good offices to determine the intended information'! I rest/reast/roast my case Joe! G. Peasemould.
  • VicB3
    Yes, and Abraham was looking at an infant mortality rate of 85%, a overall life expectancy of 35-45, and with his sons being his retirement plan. He was also waring with other tribes in the region over such things as grazing land and water, in other words resource shortages. All together, he was a primitive nomad in primitive land. Just because it - pumping out kids - supposedly worked for Abraham doesn't mean that it would work in the modern world. Just a thought. VicB3
  • highlandjock
    I have been forced to the conclusion that Lawson is a fool. In my lifetime, the population has tripled, and is currently 6.8 billion souls, estimated to increase to 9.2 billion by 2050. Lawson has a vested interest in this, as he is a Jew, and the Jews consistently deny that population increases are worldthreatening. This is a blinkered approach, solely informed by religious dogma. It would be pathetic, were it not so tragic. It won't affect me as I'm 69,but future generations will pay a heavy price for overpopulation, which will be catastrophic.
  • badlydrawnbear
    I', not overly keen on following the advice of a deity who tells a man to go kill his child - the answer is ALWAYS no.. Nor am I interested in the idea of designing humanities future based on a man who tries to kill his child because his invisible friend told him to... There are over populations and nature tens to cull them back - where will your god be when people are dying of thirst hunger and as the result of aggressive competition for dwindling resources...
  • nilshans
    Paris, cold, cold When I was born the French population was 40 millions. Now at sunset, the population is having a try at getting up to seventy millions. When I was born the World Population was 2 billions and already we had learned books outlining the effects of starvation in India; In those days we were a bit gullible and it sounded so mathematical sound, if you have one loaf of bread, the more children you have to feed, the less they will get. I was so incredibly lucky that I lived and worked thanks to the green revolution. All our gloomy forecasts proved to be wrong, possibly except one forecast which is still as valid now as it was then: ?what do we do with the wastes?? It might be difficult to accept that even in an African slum, the management of wastes is a huge problem. Do people at the extreme limit of poverty generate wastes that cannot be handled and the answer is ?yes?. So the World Population will continue to increase. Feeding this population is not a problem, we know how to do it. Meeting this population's greed is quite another story. If you have only 4 mines that produce the very rare mineral ?miam-miam? and that mineral is an essential constituent of everything that ticks, what do you expect to happen? When working in Africa as an agronomist (mpr.jag-minns.com) it was so difficult to understand how we could produce so much in our garden, we could feed nearly five families out of a garden smaller than the Central court, yet our neighbours were producing nearly nothing; In those days it was a bit of a mystery, mystery whose solution has come to me now that my bones and muscles have given up being of any use. Did you see the serial ?Pacific? and do you remember the reasons given by the Japanese Economists of those days for going to war to increase their harvesting area? This is likely to become more and more true. I was watching gulls over the Seine River, they were in a frenzy as one gull had managed to pick up a delicious piece of garbage, they harassed the gull until it dropped that good bit from it's beak, good bit which was picked up by another gull which was immediately harassed by the others. Had the availability of food been limited, it would have been understandable, but believe me if you are a gull and live near the Paris Seine river, you have no risk of getting slim and beautiful. The whole point of the gull story was that whatever the amount of available food was, they did not want one of the flock to get something they would not get. How much worse would the situation have been had the amount of food been limited, how are we ?gull-nations? going to behave when we discover that we are running short of the essential ?miam-miam? mineral which is an essential component of everything that ticks? I nearly let my pen continue it's flow, writing that next war is inevitable, so conveniently forgetting that next war has started. Sorry for the rambling, let me add a last sentence: A World where the population is not increasing would be a dead world. The increase of the the World Population is our real hope and joy. Incidentally anybody has anybody got any idea what to do with the flotsam, us elderly who are soon going to suffocate all the resources of Life as apparently younger fish are no longer allowed to eat us elderly fish? Ambabelle, http://faiblefaible.jag-minns.com
  • stonebn
    What?
  • steveholland2
    what kind of cheese?
  • Minnie_Ovens
    There are so many holes in this person's arguement that it a bit like a piece of cheese. It's so shallow I burst out laughing.
  • guystev
    Well considering the entire population could fit into America with plenty of food and water, you could say that depopulation is an Agenda, but it is not a myth, the reason being, that purposeful depopulation of the Earth is ongoing on at this very moment (Agenda 21, Report from Iron Mountain, etc). Too many people to control, don?t you know, depopulation is the real goal of Government, witness the abortions, the Genocides, the wars, they want moist of us dead. The Earth could encompass twice the population it now is, but that is against the Agenda isn?t it, life is cheap where Government is concerned, they need a slave population acting as a hive mind under their hierarchy of control.
  • steveholland2
    apologies, I was using 'we' in the grander 'humanity' sense - I wasn't suggesting that the UK/The West should pay for it
  • Not if the poorest are having families of six children as they usually do in the areas we are expected to support. All you are really saying is the wealth per family is not that different between the wealthy areas and the poor ones merely that it is shared between more members. How many people in Britain have a plot size as great as an average African peasant and land is one important measure of real wealth.
  • steveholland2
    Where land is tight, we build vertically - no problem at all We can even farm vertically, and if it becomes economic to do so, we shall. Energy is the limiting factor - we need cheap reliable power, that is all...
  • No you are wrong. We do not need to do anything. THEY do. Africa has for far too long bleated colonialism as the source of all their ills. They are with their corruption, overbreeding and sexist idleness of so many of the males there.
  • No actually a typical middle eastern origin religious thing. The Muslims have it just as badly and so does conservative Christianity.
  • Like flood plains?
  • Yes but the area of land is a closed system and more popluation equals less per person. Sure Lawson and his political cronies will alway be OK . It is the rest of us that will be in rabbit hutches if we are lucky. As for food it is only because of imports that the supposed food capacities per acre are achieved and the very argument used to say an increased population can survive is the reason it cannot.
  • steveholland2
    did you read the article - 50% of food in sub-Saharan Africa ROTS; we don't need to grow any more, just transport it and store it better
  • steveholland2
    your argument is invalid: the laws of thermodynamics only apply to closed systems, our earth-sun-solar system is not a closed system
  • Ninjooli
    Today we grow our food in self-contained weather-proof towers . . . With vertically-grazing cows? What happens when they drop a cow-pat?
  • stonebn
    Ok keep projecting
  • randear
    Did God not tell Abraham that he would multiply his seed as numerous as the sands? There are no shortages except those made by governments and there are no over populations.
  • Oldgittom
    All a Jewish plot? Spare us, please! OGT
  • Oldgittom
    Agreed, Mr Simpson, & might I add? Dominic Lawson skates over the ability of our post-industrial, capitalist system to turn the potential to feed the extra mouths into reality. Potential is for Africa to feed its own & many more, but where are the roads & distribution infrastructure to come from? Where are the secret plans? Who/what is going to invest? Crude capitalism has enriched a tiny minority in India, but left 90% in varying degrees of dire poverty; hardly cheering news. To answer the journo?s disingenuous question, we wisely favor bad news over bad, becoz if the former comes true, we suffer. At heart, he is an incorrigible conservative, fundamentally believing that ?All?s for the best, in the best of all possible worlds?. Else, he would have to favor radical action over cumfy optimism. OGT
  • Mark_Simpson
    The Institution of Mechanical Engineers seems to have forgotten one of the main cornerstones of modern physics - the laws of thermodynamics. I'm sure they are quite right. The application of current technology across the world would allow 9 billion people to be supported. As a static figure. But where does the the energy required to achieve this come from? And how does it scale up as the global population increases. The bacteria analogy quoted by some is a good one, but maybe not in the way intended. Bacteria will only continue to grow and spread whilst they have the food substrate and general resources to do so. Should the food run out, or other resources necessary for the maintenance of life, become depleted, bacterial growth will slow or even reverse. Other ecological systems show a typical "foxrab" profile, in that populations can increase, then suddenly crash. There are already several good theories that the fall of several historical civilisations can be mainly attributed to changes in climate. And the subsequent fights over dwindling resources. The current global civilisation has only avoided such a fate so far because advances in technology have saved us. But how long can we keep pulling the rabbit out the hat, until there's no more rabbits left to save us?
  • I read a report even in the 1960s that said the earth could easily sustain 9 billion and possibly more and that was on then current technology. However, we do need to expand into other living zones on earth.
  • VERTICAL FARMING! Once upon a time, in the year 2010, primitive man grew his food outdoors, in the open air, where it was subject to heat, cold, rain and snowstorms, etc. Today we grow our food in self-contained weather-proof towers, substantially less than one percent of the earth's surface sustaining a population in excess of 100 billion. End of argument.
  • username999
    Your comment about Jews could use a little explaining. I hadn't heard that one, and I have wonder of it really informs much - if it's so true.
  • username999
    Famous last words. Malthus is guilty of nothing worse than failing to anticipate the Green Revolution of the 60's. Although he specifically forecast food shortage, many things, like AGW, are contingent on population and can bite us in the rear - as a species, not just as a single nation or continent. It's the interconnectedness of everything that makes prediction more or less impossible, and points to defaulting to the Precautionary Principle, which isn't happening. Population will end up suffering a die-back, and the basic trigger will be found to have been fairly directly traceable to overpopulation.
  • JoeBauwens
    ...and we could all eat magic beans!
  • JoeBauwens
    Technically Dominic Lawson is a human, not an orang utan. But its an easy mistake to make.
  • JoeBauwens
    No, the phosphate thing is really scary.
  • JoeBauwens
    If he can prove that 2+2=3 then I'd be willing to believe infinite growth might be possible in a finite world. If it turns out 2+2=5 we're really stuffed.
  • JoeBauwens
    On the Guardian's CiF it's possible to repeatedly 'like' your own comments, hundreds of times if they feel so inclined. The Indie's site does not allow this.
  • JoeBauwens
    His judgement seems reasonably sound on this occasion.
  • JoeBauwens
    He needs to read a book.
  • JoeBauwens
    Possibly Reast assured him that you know nothing about this matter. Who exactly Reast is, and why tomkyle places so much trust in his opinion, remains obscure.
  • Crydda
    I agree totally with Obert. You have very effectively debunked an, at best, ill researched and misleading piece of journalism. Lawson has again been shown up to be all bluster and no substance. Thank you for your efforts
  • converwell
    Kaivay, I think the video you are thinking of is by Prof. Al Bartlett, on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY Everyone ought to see this
  • obert
    Your first assumption is that the rate at which we consume will remain static. If China alone reaches a first world living standard, then we will be using 12 times the current level of resources. This is assuming that the rest of the world is not growing in number or prosperity. Fich stocks are collapsing. Oil is becoming scarcer. And you want us to accelarate this all tweive fold do you? I don't know what fantasy world you live in.
  • Guest
    A pretty easy article to write from a man who will never want for anything or suffer as a result of over population...
  • badlydrawnbear
    He lives in a world where Ocado delivers and his place in the country has room for a pony. I guarantee that he and his rich chums will never hand over their estates to feed the world that breeds and consumes exponentially...
  • Internet_Pawn
    Oh, for a 'dislike' button. In what sense are humans the world's finest resource? What makes you think humans are the only creatures with powers of reason? What leads you to think humans have been appointed as 'stewards of creation', whatever that means? And 'entrusted' by whom? And to round it off, orang-utans are amazing creatures. Yep, complete disagreement.
  • Absolutely, and what about the food shortage that will follow. that will mean even more of the third world trying to get here! A drastic population control law stricter even than the one in China is absolutely necessary, not only in Great Britain but all over the world. Big business can scream as loud as it likes, but it is only creating more and bigger problems for future generations. it is so obvious that it makes me wonder if these capitalists are really intelligent or are they so obsessed with greed that they have lost all sense of proportion?
  • obert
    This is the best post I've read on this site. Thank you for taking the time and trouble to write so eloquently and convincingly. You have shownLawson to be lazy, dishonest and self serving.
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  • The Green Revolution, spearheaded in the 1960s by the amazing efforts of Norman Borlaug, staved off the food shortages Ehrlich predicted by increasing both the yield per acre and the edible portion of agricultural staples such as corn, rice and wheat. The edible portion of the modern corn plant stands at 55%. Even the most optimistic agronomists admit that an edible portion any larger than about 60% is unrealistic since around 40% of the plant is required to support the weight of the larger edible head. Rice yields regularly underperform in the field. In fact, in Bangladesh, rice yields are 60% less than what the science says is possible, fluctuating between 8 - 10 t/ha as opposed to the "maximum yield" of 23 t/ha. This is due to the fact that all of these "existing technologies" are tested in laboratories and on farms under controlled conditions, but sadly the majority of the food we eat is still grown in the real world where external factors dictate the terms. This does not stop the theoretical maximum yield from being touted as the real-world result, leading to a counter-productively optimistic view of what is possible with "existing technologies". Furthermore, the Green Revolution boosted yields by applying three times the amount of water previously used and by requiring machinery which runs on fossil fuels as well as a plethora of pesticides, herbicides and fertilisers, all derived from fossil fuels. The sheer weight of artificial inputs that are dumped onto the soil, combined with the relentless mono-cropping (only growing one crop, all the time, year after year) required by modern agribusiness and the supermarkets and processors they supply, actually point to a slow decline in agricultural yields across the board over the next decade due to the exhaustion and erosion of topsoil, the depletion of nutrients therein and nitrogen poisoning thereof. Considering that the Green Revolution led by Dr. Norman Borlaug is touted as proof that human ingenuity can overcome so-called "Malthusian" limits, it's worth noting that in his Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech in 1970, Borlaug himself said "we are dealing with two opposing forces, the scientific power of food production and the biologic power of human reproduction...There can be no permanent progress in the battle against hunger until the agencies that fight for increased food production and those that fight for population control unite in a common effort." Those are the words of a man who dedicated his life to solving the problem of world hunger, and even he, someone with eminent experience of the frontline possibilities of technology, knew that over the long term, gains in science become marginal under the ever-increasing pressure of additional population. The French report that Lawson refers to is a December 2009 publication by Agrimonde. Having read the full 32 pages of that document, which is free online, I can assure you that his summary of their findings is so inaccurate and irresponsible that the only two possible conclusions are that either he only read the last page of the report or that he read the whole thing and then lied through his teeth about what it said. The Agrimonde report in a nutshell offers two alternative scenarios, one in which the world chooses a heavily regulated, sustainable path and the other in which we pretty much carry on with what we're doing. They use an analysis tool called Agribiom which deals only with 149 out of the 250 "geographical units" sourced from the FAO, leaving out almost 2% of the world's population in the process. Their predictions for yields are made using a model known as IMPACT, which extrapolates future agricultural yields based solely on economic rather than ecological considerations, meaning that the factors considered when assessing the possibility of providing enough food in 2050 are global commodity prices, labour, capital and the catch-all term "technological progress", which itself is based mainly on "investment in agriculture". The IMPACT model also (and this is clearly stated in the Agrimonde report) does not account for water or energy usage, which are two of the most crucial factors in assessing the viability of any agricultural enterprise. This means that there is fundamentally no science - zero - upon which the projection for global food demand being met is founded. In fact, later in the document, they state in black and white that they calculate food availability based on consumption/demand, meaning that if the food is desired, it is there. That is not science. The report also predicates the outcomes of both scenarios (in which global demand is met exactly with no surplus or deviation because, as they said, the fact that demand is x means that according to their model, availability will also be x) on a heady list of assumptions, including a massive growth of marine aquaculture to make up for the depletion of ocean fisheries, overcoming the impact of climate change, a 25% reduction in the caloric intake of the OECD nations, a severe restriction on meat consumption which allows pastures to be converted into cropland in order to preserve forests, a 28 - 39% increase in total cultivated land area...the list goes on and on. None of the items are mentioned as obstacles to which solutions are proposed. They are listed as problems which have already been solved in 2050 in order to allow the highly dubious feeding, in exact proportion to demand, of the 98.3% of the world's population on whose behalf the study was conducted. The end of the report is a litany of qualifications, explaining in detail how real and difficult the challenges are. These are, of course, the same challenges that the report effectively externalises by assuming that they have been overcome in order to produce the outcome everyone wants to see, namely that we can feed 9 billion people. Does this sound like a "yes"? Until that point in the article, despite my disagreement with his opinions, I thought of Mr. Lawson as a journalist. Unfortunately, a journalist would have read a document before quoting it to support an argument. A true journalist, published by The Independent, would not decry the lack of coverage by The Independent of his point of view as proof that he is a marginalised voice. His point of view is in The Independent. The attempt to paint his patently anti-environmental (and for that matter, badly constructed) argument as some kind of underdog venture is ludicrous in the extreme. This is not to say that population is the only concern. Famines worldwide from the Great Famine in Ireland to the Ethiopian famine in 1999-2000 have been exacerbated if not entirely caused by the manner in which international food trade is conducted rather than sheer human numbers. Ireland was exporting sheep, oxen, pigs and grain to Britain during the famine. Two of Ethiopia's hardest hit regions in the most recent famine were producing a net surplus of grain which was exported to OECD countries while natives starved. The basic precepts of the world food market need to be reassessed if we are to have a shot at feeding 9.4 billion people. As it stands now, almost 2 billion out of the current population of 6.8 billion are starving, half of them children. As M S Swaminathan said when introducing Norman Borlaug at an Iowa State University lecture, "famine of income is a greater cause of suffering than famine of food". In that sense, neither "existing technologies" nor "technological progress" will provide a solution to the world food situation in 2050 since technology is not the overwhelming obstacle now. Greed, avarice, politics and moral blindness are the true obstacles. All of the values which Mr. Lawson holds up as righteous in the face of "misanthropic Malthusianism" are in fact the very values that have led us to this precipice. More economic modelling, more "technological progress" - anything to avoid changing the rules to provide the poor of the world with a fair shake, and those changes include providing much needed and desired family planning services and contraceptive products. Mr. Lawson's crude, ill-conceived and frankly perverse example of a boy who "might more charitably be seen as another human whose ingenuity, creativity and intellect can be of benefit to the world" completely ignores the fundamental truth at the heart of this issue. If the boy is born into a family unable to raise a living because of "free trade", in a region decimated by climate change, probably in a city due to the increasing rural flight to urban areas, in poverty and hunger from birth through to ignominious death, to a mother who may have died in childbirth because of a lack of maternal healthcare, or who is dominated by a husband "who keeps her barefoot and pregnant as a symbol of his masculinity" (this is not cheap stereotyping but a direct quote from Ann Cotton, director of CAMFED, who works in the developing world bringing education to women in rural areas) with no control over her own fertility, then how is his creativity and ingenuity ever going to be exercised? You cannot use the boy's potential as an argument while guaranteeing that the boy will never realise that potential through an inability or unwillingness to face the issues with a clear head. Humans are not just "another mouth to feed", but condemning fellow beings to lives of deprivation and horror simply in order to score semantic points in an intellectual sparring match, the underlying social and ecological costs of which cannot ever truly be calculated, while dressing it up as a struggle for exactly the people to whose suffering you are indifferent, is not only madness but hypocrisy. For shame, Mr. Lawson. For shame. Interviewed in 2009, before his death, Norman Borlaug explained in no uncertain terms that the challenge of feeding 9 billion (since the release of the Agrimonde report in 2009, the UN projection has been revised upwards to 9.4 billion) in 2050 was the equivalent of doubling all the gains made over the past 10,000 years of agriculture in the next 40 years. It is a sobering thought that the one man most qualified to be upbeat about our chances was actually one of the most circumspect about exactly the kind of techno-optimism that Mr. Lawson wears thinly over his moral and intellectual nudity.
  • tedthedog
    What do you mean...IF?
  • cooperative5
    but if they all have right of entry into the UK we have a real problem!
  • obert
    Hmmm last time I spoke to an ecologist about the overpopulation of elephants in the Zambezi valley he didn't say, "Well, if we put them all shoulder to shoulder they could fit in a tiny corner of the park". No, he gave an answer based on science and reason. Population sustainability is not some arbitrary notion of what surface area we believe is reasonable for a species to inhabit. It is based on how much resources they consume versus the recovery period of those resources. When resource consumption outweighs resource production, that is what we call overpopulation. Your post is therefore based on fantasy rather than reality.
  • obert
    Well is it your right to have children more than other peoples' right not to have to subsidize them? How about my right not to have to pay exorbitant food prices because you chose to have ten children instead of two? How about my right not to have to subsidize your ten children's health, transport and education?
  • ConallBoyle
    Lawson sounds just like those economists who 'proved' that the banking system was rock solid, could never fail, could go on expanding forever. And why are the pro-populationists so damned rude? Seems like they've lost the plot!
  • MissusComprehensivePerspective
    Wow, Mr. Lawson. I don?t know who you are from Adam and I wasn?t going to chime in, but some of these comments (I'm loving those of you who have got your thinking correct) that I?m reading clearly reveal their authors as dangerously under-informed, and as this is an issue that desperately needs clarity ? not more fog ? I?m piping up. I have a wealth of supporting evidence to share, including some highly startling eye-openers. I am an intensely curious and all-too-well-informed but otherwise ordinary workingclass American: a worker, mother, and housewife from Midwestern farm country (land of that disappointing putz Tom Vilsack, see his story in links below) - and I?m here to say: Thank-you, Dominic Lawson. You do the world a great, loving favor with this breath of fresh air you have penned. The 'powers that make belief' ? true masters of shortsight ? true purveyors that they are of propaganda by omission of verifiable information and relevant fact ? certainly love it when the unaware, unaware they are unaware they are unaware, of course, swallow and propagate this wicked overpopulation meme, which is just one of the poison pills that wealthpower giants use as tools to rob and oppress and tyrannize the mass of unsuspecting, innocent, too-trusting humanity. I am here to use truth and sound reasoning to help take that love away from the tyrants. Malthusianism: It?s much worse than a giant false alarm, it's an extremely sick and dangerous pathology with lots and lots of apologists. It?s hard to market evil unless it can be packaged as being good, eh? The overpopulation theme carries in it the germ of anti-humanism and an appalling casualness about the taking of human life, and the term ?carrying capacity? is not much more than another thought stopper. We have been goaded on by psychopathic leaders for so long that killing other humans is now seen by many as an acceptable solution to a whole slew of problems. As a friend of mine says, overpopulation talk originates with Malthusian white racialist supremacist eugenicist wealthpowerful types with sinister agendas. When you've got a group of billionaires - some with demonstrated links to eugenics - all hopped up on Malthus: that's bad company and bad news. The lie of these wealthpower giants? 'concern' is immediately exposed by this: while their banks, private equity groups and software are deliberately driving growth and profit and consumption (thus resource pillage) in the two most populous countries on Earth - India and China - they set their sights on Africa to roll out their techno love to help the population (again, see the links I offer below). Yes, birth control with family planning education is essential. (Though keep in mind that large families are essential in some cultures, providing community, security, and economy). But what is birth control, really, outside an umbrella of economic justice, radical land reform, food sovereignty, health care, education, food and water as a right; and a depopulation of billionaires, millionaires and Eichmanns - in essence, everything Malthusian unlimited personal fortunes capitalists are against? Eugenics took Malthus? banality and illogic a step further by arguing that the over-popular poor?s moral deficiencies were innate. (Cue Hitler and his wealthpowerful backers and funders.) Not ALL overpopulation talk originates with these types - take Chris Hedges for example, a guy I generally respect. But his op We Are Breeding Ourselves to Extinction was disappointing to say the very least - it was a strike out with the bases loaded. He wrote crap like this for example: "A world where 8 billion to 10 billion people are competing for diminishing resources will not be peaceful." His assumption that the root cause of conflict is population - rather than the primary drivers of extreme economic inequality, fear, greed of the top 1% and their lust for power, consumption of frivolities, domination, extraction, exploitation, artifice, accumulation and theft - is music to a Rockefeller's ears. Our current, dysfunctional economic system, most accurately described as unlimited personal fortunes capitalism (as opposed to the fairpay justice capitalism we could have), with the overgrowth, enclosure, privatization, neocolonialism, violence, chaos, and deliberate erosion of democracy it so reliably and predictably spawns, is never mentioned in the arguments of people talking overpopulation, scarcity and carrying capacity. Those pushing 'overpopulation' really are pushing a privatization agenda and the economic strategy of enclosure, masking a Malthusian framework with easy to swallow (and of course, very legitimate) environmentalism. The powerful giga-rich hardly need to be further empowered by our tragic embrace of their framework! As Iain Boal writes: ?Malthus' way of framing the issue of human welfare has triumphed. And I think it's especially important for the Left to understand this. Particularly those who got drawn into politics through concern about the environment, who count themselves as "green". Scratch an environmentalist and probably you'll find a Malthusian. What do I mean by that? What is it to be Malthusian? Well, it's to subscribe to the view that the fundamental problems humanity faces have their roots in the scarcity of the resources that sustain life, because the world is finite and we are exhausting those resources and also perhaps because we are polluting them. Notice how this mirrors the basic assumption of modern economics ? choice under scarcity.? Environmentalists would serve themselves well to read this and remember it: ??ecological ideas have a history of being distorted and placed in the service of highly regressive ends--even of fascism itself. As Peter Staudenmaier shows in the first essay in this pamphlet, important tendencies in German "ecologism," which has long roots in nineteenth-century nature mysticism, fed into the rise of Nazism in the twentieth century. During the Third Reich, Staudenmaier goes on to show, Nazi "ecologists" even made organic farming, vegetarianism, nature worship, and related themes into key elements not only in their ideology but in their governmental policies. Moreover, Nazi "ecological" ideology was used to justify the destruction of European Jewry. Yet some of the themes that Nazi ideologists articulated bear an uncomfortably close resemblance to themes familiar to ecologically concerned people today. As social ecologists, it is not our intention to deprecate the all-important efforts that environmentalists and ecologists are making to rescue the biosphere from destruction. Quite to the contrary: It is our deepest concern to preserve the integrity of serious ecological movements from ugly reactionary tendencies that seek to exploit the widespread popular concern about ecological problems for regressive agendas.? That came from ?Ecofascism: Lessons from the German Experience?, by Peter Staudenmaier and Janet Biehl, found here: www.spunk.org/library/pla...ofasc.html Before anyone agrees that population growth is an issue they should understand clearly why some people want to make it the top issue - billionaires, for example, with ties to eugenics and brutal economic policies that are destroying a planet being increasingly gated off for the pleasure of the fraction few stratospherically wealthpowerful. The beef is not that population or overpopulation can?t or won?t be a problem, and nobody rational is contending that we have infinite resources. The beef is that thrusting population into the headlights as the key problem is a dangerous and diabolic misframing and misdiagnosis of the problem. What you don?t know ? and what you think you know that is really incorrect - can?t hurt them, the wealthpower giants, eh? The question is intentionally, actively, urgently being focused on how MANY of us are using resources precisely so that our attention is conveniently directed away from questioning HOW we are using/misusing them. Sharing or not sharing our abundant (abundant does not mean infinite) resources ? THAT is the question that those who are determined by any means whatsoever to own the earth and all the works of humankind upon it for themselves to control and enjoy ? do not want asked. Cheap-labor predators wish for exclusive or at least inordinate focus on population growth, so they keep resurrecting the banality of Malthus. Wealthpower giants have been using that vile, false-priestcrafter Malthus and the pathetic flunkies who carry his water for generations in endless, nauseating attempts to excuse their egregious overpay-overpower and escape their rightful blame for their actions, their psychopathological ideology, their sick and twisted monomania for wealthpower - Mother Earth and all her inhabitants be damned and crushed under the wheels of their murderous juggernaut. Population growth is a socio-economic problem. A just economic system will go a very long way towards helping people regulate their population - though that should be the least of our reasons to clamour for - to demand - a just economic system. While a top-down population system based on the political economy of physics will only further pervert social and economic justice ? a perversion that seems limitless. Hard science hardly exists when there?s unlimited money, power and control at stake. So what are the real limits of population? I don?t know, you don?t know - - and neither do the billionaires or technocrats. But that will not stop them from inventing the limits we are to abide by or from mis-determining priorities. Are you who are criticizing Mr. Lawson not the least bit wary of the agendas of those whose policies and plans are aimed directly at the poor teeming masses, as if they haven?t been screwed enough as it is? I find it morally repugnant that we in the over-consuming, privileged world take it upon ourselves to get out our population calculators and assume the role of human bean counters. The wealthpowerful want us asking; What are the limits of population? We should ask instead: What are the limits of our consumption? What are the limits of economic growth, or the limits of this entire economic system? Are we truly limited in the ways we're being told we are with such certainty? And where oh Where is talk of some sane limits on extremes of wealth and income? Pay in this world ranges from a thousand dollars a second to a thousand dollars a lifetime ? and nobody is talking about that level of unsustainable insanity! What dynamic relation is there between waste and overconsumption of resources and the enormous extremes of pay we go to bed with every night? Just when and how did reward become divorced from the sacrifice of time and energies it takes to produce wealth, anyway? These should immediately strike a thoughtful person as being the far more urgent questions. We may ask ?When do the ?physics? of population and carrying capacity come into play??, but it certainly isn?t now. It isn?t the hard laws of nature causing famine and misery for millions, it?s our visible economic hand. Iain Boal is quite right that we do not live in a world of natural scarcity, but in a world of artifice, force, and manufactured scarcity. There is more than enough for everyone, but not everyone is allowed to partake. The problem is not population growth, but the hungry beast we know as economic growth. And the powerful, kept fatter than fat on this growth, are trying to keep it that way. The over-population scare tactic is one way to avoid the truth about manufactured scarcity and dodge the heart of the problem: global unlimited personal fortunes capitalism. Our diabolically stupid, completely unnecessary, and entirely unjustifiable wealthpower inequality factor that resides in the billions should be more than enough to compel us to focus on how we live together here and now. It is precisely by taking our focus OFF overpopulation that we will render it no future threat: this is very hard for us to see. We are ignoring the danger that is by far the very most threatening, we are failing to even seriously search for, let alone determine, just which is the thing that is doing the gravest harm to our safety and happiness. We have been so remarkably relaxed about severe economic unjustice for so long we?ve allowed a ratio ? a RATIO! ? to put us on the path to voluntary autogenocide. It appears to me that an awful lot of our human intelligence has wound up being as useful to us as stupidity would have been in its place, or is. We have brains, it?s true ? but we?ve done one heckofajob of keeping our brains well away from our reality. We can go the way of Via Campesina or we can go the way of Monsanto, Archer Daniels Midland, and the World Bank. Take a microcosm: Israel vs. Gaza. We can fret about (over)population in Gaza, for example, say they need better family planning (or worse) ? but we can also look at the underlying policies and the reasons for their lack of water, food, health care, their depleted resources and large families - and the reasons for their rather tight quarters. Limits, indeed. Even in the West Bank, their resources happen to be on the other side of a prison wall, controlled and enjoyed by a smaller population per square inch. Small, diversified farms are 30 times as productive as these mono-cropped fields that surround me. As Via Campesina says, you don't risk environmental degradation or catastrophe with small farmers exercising food sovereignty and localized, sustainable farming. As Amartya Sen concluded, you don't get famine where there's democratic entitlement to food. Humans use resources, yes, but back up, folks, get a more comprehensive perspective, look at the biggest picture of our reality whole: humans ARE resources, too. The mouth needing to be fed gets born with two hands that have these cool, useful things called opposable thumbs ? and that is why each mouth and stomach born is very capable of providing ? wait for it - more food than it needs. We humans are the species capable of over-riding our mechanics: we have the power to decide who we will be and how we will live in this world: arguments that we are powerless (like to re-adjustice world wealth, for instance) or are doomed by our NATURE are illogical, irrational BUNK. In a briefing paper, ?Poverty, Politics and Population,? the UK-based CornerHouse Research and Solidarity Group notes that Malthusian thinking is providing an enduring argument for the prevention of social and economic change and to obscure, in both academic and popular thinking, the real roots of poverty, inequality and environmental degradation. The briefing paper is an edited extract of ?The Malthus Factor: Poverty, Politics and Population in Capitalist Development? by Eric B Ross, published by Zed Books, London. Ross is an anthropologist at the Institute of Social Studies in The Hague, Netherlands. http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/malthus.htm That?s a must-read article in my book. And the following eye-opening resources added to that ought to be enough to slay this bogus, lethal, genosadistic meme once and for all ? so I hope people (if you don?t love life, my words are not for you) will think to save this column of yours, Dominic, and this comment of mine, and share all this important information around liberally: Billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 350303.ece Gates 'Helping' Africa with Hunger via Genetically Modified Solution http://rawstory.com/2009/10/gates-gm-fo ... s-efforts/ Gates Foundation's Rajiv Shah to Head USAID Shah to Continue Gates-Monsanto Push for GMOs in Poor Countries The Case Against Rajiv Shah: Don't Let Monsanto Take Over USAID George Monbiot: The Population Myth -People who claim that population growth is the big environmental issue are shifting the blame from the rich to the poor Malthus was wrong by GEOFFREY CARR, Science Editor, The Economist, is found here: http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:dhRqyfv-WEsJ:www.edge.org/q2007/q07_1.html+malthus+wrong&hl;=da&ct;=clnk&cd;=6 Why Malthus Was Wrong by Kent A. Peacock, is found here: http://people.uleth.ca/~kent.peacock/Why%20Malthus%20Was%20Wrong%202004.pdf (I'm crossing my fingers all those links show up live, but if they don't, I can repost them.) As an added note, if I may be allowed (and I imagine some of you Brits can see better than my modernday, sleeping countrymen, ahem, how this relates), I?d like to remind my fellow USAmericans of this: Our Founders? Original Great American Dream of Freedom was NOT ? EVER ? the dream to have the perfectly simple-minded freedom to grow limitlessly rich at the expense of your fellows, your nation, and your world. No matter how many sharers there are. The Great American Dream of Freedom was not about freedom TO: it was about freedom FROM. It was ALWAYS about freedom from the TYRANNY of the European moneypowers of the day, the concentrated wealthpower tyranny our ancestors fled. Color me ? invisible, insignificant housewife that I be - infuriated and grief-stricken that nobody on this side of the pond seems able to recall just why this country was founded and what it?s supposed to be about. Only a nation of the walking comatose diabolically stupid who have utterly forgot what it is we were supposed to be vigilant ABOUT? could support throwing more trillions down that rathole we call the Pentagon, wasting the world?s wealth and finite resources on the stuff and projects of killingry (as Bucky Fuller put it) ? ignoring the far-largest and most-unnecessary consumer of energy resources - all the while trembling in fear there isn?t enough oil to go around. Yes, world, what you think of us is true: the majority here cannot get their heads to think their way back to justice. We are far from recognizing that scarcity is manufactured by the wealthpower giants we have so foolishly erected. They have cast a spell over our wits, tricked us into accepting the lie that there is scarcity when there is actually abundance ? just wildly, reprehensibly maldistributed. Their pet project ? extreme economic injustice ? and our bovine acquiescence to that despicable project - drives all the violence pollution that sooner or later gets to everybody. In closing, Mr. Lawson, I?m not actually entirely invisible. I can be found here (including how to contact me): http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/?q=node/5194 And my no-downside plan for reversing the colossal destruction of global happiness and safety is here: http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/?q=node/5711 Thank you again for your terrific article, Dominic Lawson. In stark contrast to many of the other comments you?re getting, I really want to give you a long, tight, rib-cracking hug and a sweet kiss on top of your head for this goodness! Namaste ? from an ordinary USAmerican housewife married to a wonderful, response-able man?and married as well to the comprehensive perspective and to the Mother of ALL issues: the fight to murder the idea to allow unlimited personal fortunes. ps; Hey all you 1% world wealthpower giants: pass the fish for Christsake! And hurry up about it, if you want safety and a moment?s peace. BECAUSE WE ? the 99% ants you gi-ants can?t even see - ARE COMING TO GET BACK OUR WEALTH YOU?VE BEEN ALLOWED TO LEGALLY STEAL FOR AGES ? and though I try with all my might to do it, I cannot assure you I can convince people that the way to do it best involves no violence.
  • The_little_waster
    A slight misrepresentation of Dr Tim Fox's views by Dominic Lawson. from http://profeng.com/news/population-crisis-looms "Tim Fox, head of energy and climate change at the institution, told PE that growth in population to a peak of an estimated 9.5 billion people by the end of the century was likely to prove the ?defining challenge?......Fox added that the challenge of climate change was closely interlinked with population growth and was likely to stress already scarce resources?. So we MIGHT be able to cope with 9.5 billion people if we put a lot of groundwork in which we aren?t currently and if we prevent serious climate change which we aren?t managing either. So this isn?t quite the Cornucopian utopia that?s being portrayed.
  • Derek_M
    I think this article is rather disingenuous on the subject of the Institutions report which is easily available to be read online but if not able to and you want another (more balanced) view I'd recommend http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12160715
  • Europeanonion
    On a day when new high unemployment figures are announced we see that it is not too many people per se but too many people in the wrong place. To support the Directive on the free movement of labour within the EU it is often said that numbers of our people work abroad, on the Continent, ipso facto then it is OK for then to come and work here. It is one thing when people follow their own initiative and move out to satisfy their own ambitions but to then found that principal in law sounds bizarre. We have a body of people who seek adventure or gain as a personal ambition then transfer that greed, wonder, excitement or experience as being an inalienable right, sorry, I do not see it. That the individual can follow their own star is wonderful and no doubt people have been doing this sort of thing since time immemorial but never as a state policy. The situation in Europe us firstly inequitable: One assumes that those from Britain that have moved have done so normally as means of private negotiation. There are now so many multinationals that treat the work as their workplace that it is a condition of the job that people are flexible and prepared to work for their company where directed. But what we have with the European Directive is an open invitation to try your luck and the outcome of that is reflected in the jobless figures. This number also coincides badly with stories that are running at the moment of people referring to soft touch Britain and the equally awful, callous, tales of Europeans having gained access to Britain using their entry as an opportunity to introduce such trades as prostitution and the illegal importation of even more people that this country does not need and for whom the experience is nothing but pain. Who gains in these scenarios? Yesterday?s debate was the NHS and the question was whether it was free at the point of delivery. One correspondent checked me by stating that the service was part of the NI contribution. What this measure fails to consider is that someone paying NI for generations has as much call on the service as someone just entering the country and that (thanks to the EU) they can expect, even move here from the sole purpose, of benefiting from the contributions that individuals have made all their lives. And what do we get in return, the locust economy where if one is shiftless enough one, sufficiently unaffected by being a national of one country or other, a freebooter without any allegiance, you can tour Europe and gain employment wherever the green shoots appear with out actually having to sustain any particular community in the lean times. This is totally inequitable especially in a place like Britain (or Ireland) where we are at the stage of penury awaiting the next upturn. In the present circumstances anyone without a job now has only the same chance as any one in Europe from getting a job in their own country when conditions improve. They could, notionally be forced out of work then while competing unfavourably now. We hear that the EU wants details of Britain?s budgets to scrutinize the content, we hear that the City is number one target fro Europe to break up its advantageous position. London?s Mayor says that London as a hub is declining (essentially because of the realism of it being at the periphery of the European model which will favour Germany most and France as a reserve). The European model is killing us in contrived circumstances. How can the opportunity for employment be a level playing field when we have the ex-satellite state of the USSR as bed fellows? Where is the opportunity for employment there for British workers even if they should be mad enough to try their hands? What of standard of living, amenities, security and wages in Poland compared with Britain? It is an unequal game played with some cynicism by the central powers. The British people are paying for the rehabilitation of these emerging states at the cost of its own society. It has never felt more like this country being the dupes of intrigue since Chamberlain came back from seeing the German Chancellor. It is a doom scenario that has all the feeling of revenge and ambition rather than community.
  • tedthedog
    As youngsters we loved asking adults how much they would now have if they'd invested 1d (one old penny) in the Imperial Bank of Rome, AD01 at an interest rate of say 4% p.a. compound.
  • stonebn
    I guess you'd be the best judge
  • Kaivay
    Some time back I watched this video on Youtube of a physicist giving a talk on the population explosion. He said that most people, including politicians and journalists, just don't understand the maths of how a population grows. The population growth is exponential and will double every 30 years. Alright, people do die, but at nowhere near the rate in which people are born, e.g, from only a few people millions of years ago to 7 billion today. In every 30 years the population of a city will double, and in the next 30 years after that it doubles again, and so on. For example, London's population will doulbe in 30 years and quadruple in 60 years and then double again in the next 30 years after that. It doesn't take much to see that London will not be able to cope this amount of people. Where would the buildings go (maybe they would expand forever into the countryside). And what about the services like sewage and water - can we keep taking that much water from the land? He described it another way usuing the example of a jar with some bacteria in it at 1 minute in the morning (00.01). Every second the bacteria multiply and double and this carries on for 24 hours, but at what point is the jar half full he asked? Some poeple tried to guess but using his maths, the jar volume, and the size of the bacteria but no one could get it so he told them that at 1 second to midnight the jar would be half full. Plenty of room here thought the bacteria except in the next second the jar was full up, and in the next second again that managed to fill up a second jar, and in the next second after that, they needed two more jars. It took 23 hours and 59 minutes and 59 seconds for the jar to get to half full, but only 1 more second to fill the jar up completely, and then only 1 more second after that to fill the next jar up. And in the next second that follows, two more jars are needed, and so on. Pretty scary stuff I think.
  • finsburyparker
    Replying to stonebn 'I hope you have no kids and had the snip'! ____________________________________________________________________ Spoken like a true *******wit! G.Peasemould.
  • finsburyparker
    Replying to tomkyle Reast assured: you'll know nothing about it. Just take the medicine.... _____________________________________________________________ At my age I won't be around to see if they got it right or wrong! But, judging by your reply, you just might be. Oh by the way, it's 'Rest', not 'Reast'.........Unless you meant 'Roast',...Even then, it's still incorrect! G. Peasemould.
  • stonebn
    84% use 20% of the resources so the planet can sustain a four fold increase of the poorest
  • stonebn
    I hope you have no kids and had the snip
  • TimWebb
    The implication here is that populations rise or fall irrespective of human actions. The truth is that the few individuals who determine the world's direction, and they are the ones who manipulate the finances, have a clear depopulation agenda. Someone quotes the inexplicable decline in birth rates in all areas apart from SSA; this is linked to mass exposure to toxic chemicals. Unfortunately the SSA populations don't have the benefit of access to the wonders everyone else takes for granted, so they have higher birth rates. But die sooner, as their agriculture is vulnerable to drought; they lack refrigeration to preserve what they do have, etc. The agricultural miracle which has allowed everyone else to eat more is unfortunately an illusion, as all those lovely red tomatoes and vibrant photoshopped greens are actually largely depleted of any real food value. Adding N, K etc to the soil to promote growth is not synonymous with growing a health-engendering plant. Neither is genetically manipulating staple crops. But to help things along, the EU is about to outlaw mineral/vitamin supplements at all but meaningless doseages, whilst simultaneously promoting the dissemination of highly toxic pharmaceuticals and vaccines. See Codex Alimentarius. Mr Lawson appears to be pretty vacuous in most of what he says, but I think this is his agenda, ie to insert material into the public domain which confuses and misrepresents the truth about what is really going on. Smoke and mirrors, as we say.The world is now fairly comprehensively contaminated with mercury, depleted uranium and lead; not to mention PCBs , BPA etc, so the chances of survival for homo imbecilis are zero.
  • Gargoil
    I doubt anyone who actually lived through the plague would have wished it on you though. It seems not to have had the same effect on the Middle East, which was also struck. There was a plague in the Byzantine Empire in the 6th century which seems to have been devastating economically. There were clearly other factors involved in these cases. Economists still don't really know what caused the Great Depression so I take what they say about Europe in the 14th century with a pinch of salt. I'd rather focus on what to do about an expanding population rather than how to get rid of half of it.
  • Terry101
    Lets start with this gem: "No, there are not (and will never be) too many people for the planet to feed. " Never too many - 90 billion, 900 billion - never say never.
  • occamsghost
    It would be scary if humans bred as regardlessly as bacteria, for sure. But it doesn't work like that. Those projections for London - especially a long lifetime into the future - are dodgy to say the least, and not based on birth rates in the city in any case.
  • occamsghost
    Plant potatoes where they'll grow and graze sheep/cattle where they won't, pigs in the woods, and these islands could easily feed themselves. Of course we might get a little bored, so we could probably afford to set a bit of land aside for barley for brewing. Obviously I'm being slightly facetious but if you look even at the land we already use for agriculture and what you could get from it if you really needed to, you'll see that these islands needn't import a single calorie even if the population does add several more million. Which is a consoling thought, no?
  • maias
    Can't be because of too many people. Look at the Guardian, some comments get over 400 "likes", whereas the Indie rarely has over 30. Some sort of censorship perhaps. Can't have too many of the hoi polloi having divergent views to the editor can we.
  • tomkyle
    Reast assured: you'll know nothing about it. Just take the medicine....
  • EliteStryver
    Yes and after the plague housing was dirt cheap and labourers could demand astronomical wages. The things about the plague, however, is that it was quite democratic and wiped out a lot of wannabe lords and ladies - the people who now want the masses to obligingly commit suicide.
  • susangalea
    This is all very jolly and upbeat. The spanner in the works for me is that although we have the Learned Ones telling us we can feed 9 billion at any given time, the fact is we feed far far less than that now. We let them starve. Reasons to be cheerful doesn't enter the rational for today's signal failure then......
  • MunkeyNots
    Don't the howty towty use their haughtiness to disguise their lack of knowledge to considerable effect?
  • ziderdrinker
    The feudal system in this country failed following the great plague when population declined dramatically. Prior to this people were little more than slaves. In many countries around the world now the supply of labour greatly exceeds the available work, resulting in greater poverty and unrest and the push to migrate to more affluent nations. Who does this benefit? Those whose profits depend on reducing their labour costs. Hence freedom of labour movement in EU, and relocation of businesses to less well off areas. Population is not just about whether we can find enough rations for everyone, but about quality of life.
  • >> All the hype over global warming, which is now proven as lies >> Are you really suggesting that the laws of thermodynamics are lies? The laws of thermodynamics are completely clear about the effect of increasing the insulation on a material body while keeping the input and output of heat the same. The temperature has to go up. Hence if the input from the Sun is roughly constant (it is) and CO2 is rising in the atmosphere (it is), the temperature must go up or the laws of thermodynamics are wrong. All that remains to calculate is the exact way in which the additional heat is re-distributed around the globe, which is what climate models try to do. I've yet to hear of any experiment performed by an AGW denier that can confirm a violation of the laws of thermodynamics. In physics the laws of thermodynamics are consider to be as close at it gets to a mathematical proof. I quote ;- "If someone points out to you that your pet theory of the universe is in disagreement with Maxwell's equations?then so much the worse for Maxwell's equations. If it is found to be contradicted by observation?well these experimentalists do bungle things sometimes. But if your theory is found to be against the second law of thermodynamics I can give you no hope; there is nothing for it but to collapse in deepest humiliation. " -- Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington. The AGW denial argument is against the laws of thermodynamics.
  • non_believer
    Yes, and they'd be ankle-deep in their own excrement in less than a week.
  • Jake_K
    Agreed. And further to the points you have made, I'm also worried that this Buntles and 3 others put their mark on a comment that thinks evolution is a con... I guess the Americans have found this article.....
  • EliteStryver
    Wait a minute. I think the majority of 'socialists' would agree that both exponential growth and spending are ridiculous concepts. What marks the difference between either end of the political spectrum is the equitable distribution of resources. The radicals support inequality to improve their chance of survival, while socialists believe in cooperation and sharing.
  • Crydda
    Actually, you could fit the whole human population standing shoulder to shoulder on the Isle of Wight, but that is simply another useless fact - just like like the garbage you're spouting here.
  • ChrisR123
    Unfortunately Dominc Lawson wrote this article with the catholic side of his brain switched on instead of the rational side. He needs to read a book like Prof Jared Diamonds "Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Survive" to see how throughout history civilisations at the peak of their powers have been brought down by the natural variations in the climate, or depletion of their resources.
  • GETALIFELOSERS
    I don't read the mirror.......and it's my real name.
  • EliteStryver
    Did you look in the mirror for inspiration for your pseudonym?
  • EliteStryver
    Some of the inhabitants.
  • gecka
    Reduce now!!! They scream, it's either a temperature or population- more like reduced brains can't cope with scaremongering of certain individuals and organizations and looking for guidance , protection and reassurance that if they do something drastic now it's for the better future. Saying about good intentions springs to mind. Lot's of confused people mistakenly accept filosofical teachings and ideas as a reality...........
  • bluedixie
    Well said Dominic Lawson. If we in Britain waste up to a third of our food what does it say about us and the rest of the developed world ? If Americans - in particular but not only them - ate like normal human beings there would be plenty to share around.
  • GETALIFELOSERS
    All you ALARMISTS please kill yourselves and make more you for the rest of us. Better management is all that is required.
  • GETALIFELOSERS
    Please can all you alarmists kill yourselves and make more room for the rest of us. Better management is all that is required.
  • Crydda
    Powers of reason, eh? Judging by your comment, you could well be the exception that proves the rule. And how does being, so called stewards of creation fit in exactly with you not caring about the impending extinction of the orang utan? I'll take the orang utans over you and the rats, every time.
  • finsburyparker
    Only time will tell if 'The population time-bomb is a myth'! And, if they get it wrong, ?????? G. Peasemould.
  • greven49
    I read an intresting Swedish study last year discussing the difference between 100 billion people at the end of this century and 3.5 billion. It was a surprisingly small variation in birth number, each women having 1.9 child compared to 2.3. Current figures point to 3.5 as the likely outcome. The problem is the estructive lifestyles of the current inhabitants of the planet.
  • jimfred
    Whether or not the actual population numbers make the difference,I tend to doubt. The real problem,is the intrinsic greed and selfishness of the human animal. The situation is getting worse,not better. Less people,having more of the world's resources,food included. Inequality,writ large, As Bob Marley sang,"We hungry but them belly full".
  • ericskelton
    Have read said book. Entertaining and thought provoking. However, other writers have pointed out that (contrary to 'conventional wisdom') periods of huge rises in standard of living FOLLOW population booms rather than preceding and facilitating them. Unlike rats, humans breed and then find the good life rather than breeding in response to the good life. I hope that Dominic Lawson (like myself) doesn't have a 'catholic side' to his brain. Eric the optimistic atheist.
  • Jake_K
    Ah - ok - got it. Buntles is either mentally deficient or a wind up. Glad we got that sorted.
  • The great, and temporary, age of fossil fuels has allowed for a great increase in the number of people that can be fed and supported in the world. The "green revolution" was just as much the creation of new strains of plants to increase yields as it was spreading the processes of modern agriculture everywhere; modern agriculture being defined as the use of land to convert petrochemicals into food. However, all living things must be in balance with their environment; otherwise you get what's called "overshoot" which is followed by collapse. There is plenty of evidence to suggest we are in overshoot right now, it is estimated that we are using up about 25% past the earth's resources each year. It's like harvesting 125 trees out of a forest when only 100 trees could be cut down indefinitely. Limits to Growth postulated that unless we reduce both the size of the population and the size of our industrial economies, our industrial civilization will collapse before the year 2100. I've never read a credible challenge to that work, only Red Herrings claimed by Cornucopians such as "they predicted oil and metals would run out in the year 2000 and that never happened." No such prediction exists in either the original version of the book nor the most recent publication, I've read both.
  • There are one billion hungry right now. The idea that we can feed another two billion with ease is ridiculous. Here's why: fish stocks are collapsing; climate change will affect agriculture adversely; agriculture depends on declining supplies of fuel, water and fertile land. Turning all the wildlife reserves into monoculture is not a sustainable solution. Fewer people would help with all our resource and environmental issues. Simon Ross Optimum Population Trust
  • Whilst I think that on balance I don't believe that the population should get any larger, the most crucial issue is the WAY we consume and use resources, not the size of the population itself. If the population does not grow by a single human being and we continue using rescources the way we do, then we are still heading to disaster. Issues to consider in relation to feeding the world would be making sure less food is thrown away or relying on a less meat heavy diet (the same calories raised in meat form can need up to ten times the land area). In terms of global warming even if we halted population growth tomorrow it would not make any difference if we did not convert the technology we use over to sustainable and non- polluting technology. I am sympathetic to the popluation issue, and certainly don?t agree with intolerable situations like the Catholic Church in the Philipines refusing to change its stance on the size of families and condoms whilst Manilla is bursting to the seams with families who can?t make ends meet. However if we solve the population issue and don?t change our behaviour in any other ways then humanity still has a massive problem on its hands.
  • EliteStryver
    All statistics support your skeptical opponents position and not yours - an unpalatable fact that you maybe reluctant to accept.
  • Buntles
    I'd give you a battle of wits, dude, but I fear you're only half-prepared....
  • Buntles
    UN statistics. Go research before you mouth off. Perhaps you don't know what 'not a viable proposition' means. You no speaka da language?
  • EliteStryver
    So much for Lawson's smug pretense of possessing intelligence, a deficiency he proudly conceals behind a mountain of garbage. It is glaring obvious without the benefit of an unlimited supply of oil to sustain the output of our current, highly destructive, methods of farming the world's population will starve. Any fool can see we are heading for chaos for the simple reason that it is deluded idiots like Lawson, who believe in mankind's ingenuity to support the untenable, rule the planet.
  • crashtestmonkey
    "Mother Earth is currently producing enough food to sustain 13 billion human inhabitants - from a mere fraction of her available rain-fed arable land." And where did that figure come from? That 'currently producing' figure is unsustainable without chemical fertilisers and intensively farmed animals. If you mean rain-fed arable land that is not artificially irrigated you could easily cut that figure by 30-40%. If you honestly believe that a 50% rise in world population is nothing to worry about you need your bumps felt. If you had your 9 billion people all standing shoulder to shoulder in Texas they would have about 50 square meters each or about 15 foot by 30 foot. To feed one man all year with enough to plant next year requires about 4 acres of arable and grazing land. Work out how much 9 billion people need just to grow enough food to survive.
  • Errrm... If population isn't a problem, how come people are already starving? Must be 'market forces' or something...
  • It is not racism the moment there are demands to feed and clothe other peoples offspring. This is especially true when they have more than two but expect to live at the same standard as those who do limit their brood.
  • The poorest produced the other 84% of the population so surely they should go first. After all space and access to it is the most valuable commodity of all. That is what real wealth buys above everything.
  • I'm sure the technology is here to feed 9 billion people, but this article doesn't seem to take into account the consequences of natural disasters on food supply. It's not much use having great infrastructure and harvesting techniques if your crops have been flattened by God's great foot! Since 9 billion people will be largely urbanised with practically no access to farmable land, the chance for sudden food shortages and massive social unrest in a realtively short space of time is credible, although fortunately natural disasters on this scale are very few and far between! however, that Icelandic volcano going off in the 18th century is thought to have ruined harvests for 2 years across Europe and was the catalyst for the French Revolution.............
  • Why have comments been denied on other columns or articles?
  • Why have so many other columns been denied the chance to put a comment
  • >> There is more than a touch of racism in most of their arguments. >> That's irrelevant, the argument is based elementary arithmetic. You can't have infinite growth in a finite world. If you can provide a practical demonstration of 2+2=5 then I might be willing to believe that infinite growth is possible in a finite world. Until then I'll stick with the grim certainties of elementary arithmetic. Which presents a puzzle, because it's often the case that the people who complain loudest about socialists spending too much money and running up debts, are the very same people who argue that it's OK to use up natural resources and run up ecological debts. Yet the argument that spending can't go on forever, eventually debts will be called in, and the argument that growth can't go on forever eventually we'll run out of natural resources are one and the same thing. They're both based on elementary arithmetic, but in different contexts. I find it amazing that people who argue vehemently that spending must be curtailed because we've run out of money, will in the next breath argue that there are no limits to growth. Write on the back of your hand 2+2=4 not 5 and memorise it so you don't get fooled by socialist arguments that spending can be increased without limit, or arguments by the people from the other extreme that growth can carry on without limit.
  • I'm not quite sure which club people like Dominic Lawson, his father, Christopher Booker et al. belong to but they seem to be the exact mirror-image of the "left-wing" paranoid conspiracy theorists they would normally lampoon. So O.K. the population timebomb is a myth apparently , as is global warming, and so on. Maybe the different slant on conspiracy they have is that their b�te noir is a perceived political correctness that prevents or hinders laissez-faire entrepreneurial activity, compared with the more typically left-wing "conspiracy" which identifies vested interests, the establishment, etc as the forces preventing progressive and egalitarian change. What they both have in common is an inability (in their own different ways) to go beyond inherited prejudice so that "the devil" is always perceived in others or "out there". Actually it resides a lot closer to home. Still it's all good fun innit, this never-ending game of pass the blame? Wouldn't sell many papers without it (heaven forbid). Might move things on a wee bit though (yawn).
  • stonebn
    The wealthiest 16% use 80% of earths resources so lets thin out the 16%
  • gurujok
    If 7 billion people stood side-by-side they would just about fill Texas. It's greed, bad management and distribution that's the problem.
  • infowars_dot_com
    All the hype over global warming, which is now proven as lies, is being moved to population reduction. China is seen as the model here with their one child policy. What was it Prince Phillip said? "If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels."
  • Buntles
    The world's finest resource is her human inhabitants. Human beings are the only creatures with powers of reason, which is why they have been entrusted as 'stewards of creation'. Orang-utans are horrible creatures, I wouldn't give a monkey's (pun intended) if they became extinct.
  • tallise
    Methinks Dominic Lawson doth protest too much.
  • Expatnhappy
    Tell it to the fish, Dominic
  • quizbook
    Wow, I never thought I would agree with Dominic Lawson about anything. The modern Malthusians are always looking for reasons why other people should limit the number of kids they have. There is more than a touch of racism in most of their arguments.
  • SummerHerald
    What a complacent and overly simplistic article. So food will never be a problem? Interesting given that extractable phosphate is expected to run out before oil. We'll just use technology and human ingenuity to solve our problems! Except our technology requires large quantities of finite rare earth metals that the chinese have a monopoly on and are already playing politics with. For the consumption freaks to say there 'never will be' a problem is hilarious - do they not recognise a ponzi scheme staring them in the face?
  • cecile10
    Relying on nuclear fusion is taking a punt on a technology yet to be delivered - and not for lack of trying. Not a sound foundation for all our futures.
  • Jake_K
    Not just oil - every other commodity too. Metals (inc rare earth metals necessary for high-tech devices) are going up exponentially in price. Yes, new mines may be found, but that's not even the right question. Neither is simply debating food and calories intelligent. The question that should matter is QUALITY of life, not just sheer QUANTITY. Encroaching on natural habitats, forest clearance for food and fuel production, animals and plants that could have produced drugs to cure disease etc etc etc etc Dominic, all wiped out to feed more and more and more. Yes, one of those extras may crack nuclear fusion in the next 1,000 years, but you can guarantee that the proportion of those billions who can enjoy one of your sister's fine recipes, or even have a TV to watch her shows on (those rare earth metals again) will drop like a stone, even in Islington. This article reads like one of Delingpole's at the Telegraph, some NRA activist screed or Bob Diamond discussing bonuses. "More of the same for me please - I'm loving it".
  • Sorry Dominic, the world is not infinite, eventually human population will bump up against the finite bounds of land area and resources. If you can demonstrate how to fit a quart into a pint pot then I might believe the argument that there are no limits to population growth. However it is true that a bit more intelligent thought and allocation of resources would enable more people to be kept alive than at present and without exhausting existing resources. But that requires more intelligence and clear thinking than governments can manage so the best option is to reduce the population. Even that is beyond the capabilities of governments so the most likely thing to happen is that resources will become scarce, prices will shoot up, growth will stagnate, food will become too expensive for the poor, there will be food riots in developing countries and petrol or Iphone riots in developed countries. Governments will collapse because they can't fulfill people's aspirations because it's impossible. Which is roughly where we are now. This will continue until the population is reduced, and it'll have to go down by quite a lot since all the resources will have been used up.
  • bobbellinhell
    I don't wish to be rude but the OP's complacency verges on the unhinged. There is a finite limit on resources, and would be even if we could convert the whole Earth into food. When the expanding population hits this ceiling, it will not be a pretty situation. It seems that incapacity for maths runs in the family.
  • What are you talking about? Look outside, all the houses are built against each other in terraces without any gap at all between them, they have been divided into smaller and smaller units so that more then one family often lives in each. On top of each other!, and if you live in London this goes on for miles.
  • cecile10
    //Of course, the resources of the planet are not, in the purely mathematical sense, infinite; but neither is the population.// But even if the population stuck at 7bn and renewed itself every 7th generation, I'm sure Lawson hopes his descendents will still be here 100, 500 or 1,000 years and more from now. In that sense, human population is an infinite drain on finite resources. We have survived by our ingenuity so far, but that continued survival [at the developed world's level of consumption] cannot be assured. At some point, our ingenuity will draw a blank.
  • Crydda
    And what about the other creatures who share the planet with us. We are destroying bio-diversity at an alarming rate, with a number of reports claiming a third great period of extinction is already under way. Many other great species are on the edge of extinction already, in no small part due to habitat loss stemming from human activity. Do we really want our grand children to inhabit a world, with no tigers, rhinos, orang-utans, etc, etc and only rats, gulls and cockroaches for company.
  • Buntles
    As Dominic said in his article, the world population will soon be 7 billion. The surface area of Texas is some 268,820 sq. miles, i.e. 7,494,271,488,000 sq ft. Divide the surface area of Texas by 7 billion and you get 1070.61 sq ft per person - with the rest of the? world left completely empty. This of course is not a viable proposition, but serves to illustrate that 'overpopulation' is indeed a MYTH. Mother Earth is currently producing enough food to sustain 13 billion human inhabitants - from a mere fraction of her available rain-fed arable land. 'Overpopulation', 'global warming' and 'evolution' are three of the biggest cons in history. Demographers predict that the world population will peak out at less than 9 billion, before the year 2050.
  • I, personally, cannot live on just electricity and do not wish to live on hydroponically-grown food. I would not wish it anyone else (apart, possibly, from Dominic Lawson).
  • hervicus
    Complacent. Smug. Blind.
  • Not the point Mr. Lawson. I refer you to the Situationist Movement: We don?t want a world where the guarantee of not dying of starvation brings the risk of dying of BOREDOM! In other words, what's the point of being able to feed them if the quality of most of those 9 billion lives is as completely awful and desperate as over the half ones that are already here have? Surely, we must enrich the minds, bodies and souls of those already on earth and not be looking to bring yet more miserable, enslaved souls into the already tedious and draining Society of the Spectacle?
  • julianzzz
    We may be able to double or quadruple the number of people on the planet, but what's the point? We certainly can't afford to maintain everyone at the standard of living the Lawson tribe have come to expect. Quite apart from suffocation due to the hot air expelled by the chattering classes as they expound their noxious opinions the noise of aircraft jetting off to places exotic would make life unbearable. The Catholic church's project to overburden Heaven with hypothetical "souls" is doomed, long before then, the poor, fed up with living on a diet of dried jellyfish and powdered algae will explode from their battery cages and emerge to eat the rich and their sleek apologists...
  • bogwart
    Time to dust off the recipe for Soylent Green, methinks.
  • tiddles
    As a well fed wealthy gentleman, living in a town house in north london,seems a tad rich , for you to dismiss massive population growth as being no problem . Crikey ,given a dry spell in the south east of england,our reservoirs dry up ,causing alarm all round.Nevermind about the lack of clean drinking water for millions of families around the world .
  • itsnotpossible
    what about nuclear fusion? if mastered that could mean virtually unlimited cheap electricity for the next 3000000 years (at current rates), therefore meaning an unlimited supply of fresh water via de-salination. That coupled with a move to clean hydrogen fuel from water (split with the above electricity) has most bases covered.
  • Richard_SM
    If more and more people aren't a problem, why are the Conservatives so obsessed with immigration? Why is Cameron concerned about the rising demand on the NHS? Surely it's all relative? Bigger population just means bigger NHS.
  • I agree that the world can support 9 billion and probably a lot more (though there is serious disagreement on that being the peak). The problem though is whether enough wealth is generated and distributed fairly to allow such large numbers of people to co-exist peacefully. Sheer ability to feed is only one (important) factor.
  • its the oil cost of 9 billion that cant be sustained, as oil goes up so more food will go to make bio fuel, i don't believe that new unknown tech's will save us, i remember them saying there will be a moon base in 1999, most the new grain grown will go to make fuel in the future.

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