Stop the press! Or stop the Internet!! Just stop something!!

posted by Mike Boone at 6h04 EST on Jul 14


When the biggest Canadiens news is Shawn Belle signing with Edmonton, we have officially begun the Dreaded Dog Days of summer.

One more sleep until the HIO mini-summit at the Manoir.

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Arpon Basu's take

Jacques Demers on the mend

Pierre LeBrun updates UFAs

• TSN's UFA tracker

• Another fun-filled season of Daniel Carcillo in Philadelphia

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Carey Price has not signed yet? Price is going to be the man between the pipes at some point. Just have to wait and see what is in store in the coming days.

What will happen IF Carey Price does not accept the Habs offer? What will the organization do then? There is so much that can happen and I hope people realize what Price might be thinking. Hope it all works out soon.


Habs4ever Fan's picture

You all miss the point

Carey Price has excellent potential

Potential to become an amazing back up goalie to Leighton (when he gets traded to Philly)

Potential to become a stick boy for the real Habs capable of playing under pressure

Potential to become the official mop man for Bell Center Fans that spill their drinks

Potenital to mess up the Canadiens salary cap if ever signed to a contract paying him more that 2 million a year.

Potential to blame his defence core when the Habs go down in 4 games in the next playoff series we ever see the habs in

Potential to be the first goalie booed consistantly by his own fans in 20 plus games in a season

Carey Price sucks GET IT GAUTIER GAINEY?


Exit716's picture

Halak choked against Philly and cost the team an easy path to the Cup final.

 


Bugs's picture

Epic fail, Exit.

Keepin it real, I be chillin as

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Duracell3's picture

ROFL, right, it was Halak's fault. Completely Halak's fault that Montreal got shutout 3 OUT OF 5 Games.


db's picture

dude he's 22... and whatever you do right now, im sure you weren't that good at 22. 

 

Oh and by the way, as a fan.. you suck.


Next season is gonna be a cracker!!!


Castor's picture

I'm copying and saving this post. To be pulled out when Carey has a good year next year.

Why not support the team and see what happens instead of eliminating the possibly from the start?

I'll never understand this attitude. Carey has shown us some amazing games, if he gets his head on right (which many say he has) he will be great. And this is coming from someone who was asking for Halak to start for the past two years. 

I'll never understand why people like this come to HIO or watch the team at all. 

I look for and appreciated honest criticism of the team...but outright attacks and pessimistic skepticism is depressing.

 

 


TripleX's picture

Ok this is not intended to start a flame war!

I just read this article and it is very thought provoking.

The title is: " Is Gauthier the next Millbury?"  LOL

http://allhabs.blogspot.com/2010/07/guest-article-is-gauthier-next-milbu...

 

"And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL." PIERRE McGUIRE


Rugger's picture

Okay, just wasted a few minutes reading it.  Bottom line is she does not like his public statements, therefore he will be as bad as Milbury, oh and trading SK was for a punsihment.


Wish I had just read your Cliff notes. Man, what a stretch, if you are trying to make the claim that a G.M. whose been on the job for less than a year is the new Milbury, at least give us some evidence.


ManApart's picture

Judging by this summer, this comparison very well may not be a bad one. PG was director of pro scouting under Gainey. Maybe he was behind a lot of Bo-Bo's bonehead moves also. All I know, is this management team is so overdue to get kicked to the curb, it's not even funny anymore. This old boys club within the Habs hierarchy has hurt this franchise terribly. I am pretty sure that if the Habs miss the playoffs, like I think is a good possibility this year, that will be the end. Boivin is gone thank God and the Molsons will save this team. I really believe in them.


Storm Man's picture

Looks like your still tornapart on this topic.


TripleX's picture

That Geoff Molson would drop Boivin even though he without doubt brought in millions for Molson is encouraging.  One could read it that Geoff Molson values good hockey decisions over good marketing decisions.

For too long this franchise has been operated as some kind of marketing exercise ( glorifying past victories ) instead of a modern business interested in future victories.  I think Geoff wants to restore the Montreal Canadiens to where they belong.

ps I am hoping PG is on a very short leash

"And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL." PIERRE McGUIRE


demigod's picture

Or maybe the Molsons want to appear like that's the case. Is Boivin the one who raises the tix prices? Like Halak, Boivin's job is done here.


SeriousFan09's picture

All Habs has been a bit alarmist since the season ended IMO.

 

- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/


TripleX's picture

To be perfectly honest this is the first time I have visited the site.

The author takes a different angle on things and was well written.

 

"And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL." PIERRE McGUIRE


TripleX's picture

The Wild signed 26 year old goalie Josh Harding to a one year contract at 1.2 million.  This is 100,000 more than his qualifying offer.

Josh Harding was 9-12 in 25 games for the Wild last season.

 

 

"And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL." PIERRE McGUIRE


TripleX's picture

My sympathies to those individuals who will be adversely affected by the Gazette's decision not to publish a Sunday edition as of August 8, 2010.

Unfortunately cutbacks are happening all over NA in the newspaper industry, and I place no blame on anyone.

 

 

"And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL." PIERRE McGUIRE


punkster's picture

TX, you know that's not the way we roll here on HI/O. Blame MUST be laid. A scapegoat MUST be found.

FREE TIMO!


TripleX's picture

It was probably something to do with Gainey, Gauthier and Boivin but I am still looking for conclusive evidence.  xP

 

"And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL." PIERRE McGUIRE


punkster's picture

Leave it for Tony in his new identity. He'll have this conspiracy uncovered before midnight.

FREE TIMO!


Radio Free Timo 2's picture

It's our next broadcast. Stay tuned for further details.


ZepFan2's picture

That's a real drag. The sports page format for the Sunday paper was the best!

------------------------------------------------------------------------ After admiring the Stanley Cup: "This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us." - Steven Tyler (Aerosmith's lead singer)


While Ian Shultz is not ready for prime time this year I see great potential another year or so down the line. He has size, grit, motivation and the talent to be successful.


ManApart's picture

So did David Fischer. Let's wait until the guy's out of junior before we annoint him Price's equal in greatness. This dreaming of potential is killing the franchise.


Fischer lacks grit. Who said anything about Price.................calm down


ManApart's picture

I'm very calm. Was just saying. How about Jason Ward or a million other guys that never made it here. you get my point.


he's no dave shultz


We don't want a goon. Grit is something else all together.


There must be something going on besides cap issues to stop a GM from trying to poach Johnson or even Ryan or Staal, for example. These guys are easily worth a few measily picks.

I`d give up any Habs player besides PK for Johnson.


likehoy's picture

staal = overrated...riding on his brother's coat tails.


collusion?


Also, its a low value move that rarely works. 


absolutely. I've seen it for years in all sports.

the GM's have friendships and agreements and make side deals that are nothing short of collusion.

waiver wire transactions - same thing.

guys get waived, and then the phone rings right away.

they discuss and agree who should be picked up and who should clearing waivers.

its very real.


joeybarrie's picture

It comes to my attention that Ian Schultz is rated 6.5 C on Hockey Futures. Pretty good rating since his Brother just signed a contract with the Caps to be a 3rd or 4th Defensman, and his original rating was 6.5 B... Not bad odds being 25 years old (Jeff) and Ian is only 20... Both came thru the Hitmen...Ian is the current Captain...

Eller is being predicted as a possible first line player (down the road). Clearly they were pretty excited to see him in St. Louis this season... Plus he was on the ALL ROOKIE team in the AHL... LOOKING GOOD.

Kristo and Leblanc are looking like good choices...

Of course, Subban and Pyatt have already been successful.

There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey...


Storm Man's picture

I like Hockey Futures also and the Fact Simon Richard is a main contributor. I find it one of the best places to read on up and coming players. Simon did a nice book called " La Serie du Siecle, Septembre 1972" If you have sometime it's a great read. 


sorry - I used to read "Hockey Futures", but now I know its full of crap.

for example, they have Schultz listed at 6.5 C, as you said.

they also have Tom Pyatt listed at 6.5 C.

I doubt many people think Schultz and Pyatt should have the same rating.

Do you?

Ian Schultz 6.5C

Tom Pyatt 6.5C


Bob Barker's picture

Hockey's Future prospect grades:

 

Player Projection RankingsTraditional Realistic Potential Rating (1-10)
(a player's realistic potential ability):

10 - Generational talent -- a player for the ages, one who can do things with a puck that no other player would even contemplate doing. Very, very few players will be deserving of this rating, probably one per decade. Think Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, Bobby Orr, maybe Sidney Crosby, but we'll see.

9 - Elite forward / defenseman / goaltender -- possesses the potential for greatness, a perennial All-Star throughout his career. Think Joe Sakic, Jeremy Roenick, Niklas Lidstrom, Rob Blake, Dominik Hasek, Martin Brodeur.

8 - First line forward / No. 2 defenseman / No. 1 goaltender -- players with definite skill that might be just a cut below elite status, but still possessing All-Star potential. Think Patrik Elias, Keith Tkachuk, Mattias Ohlund, Adam Foote, Sean Burke, Olaf Kolzig.

7 - Second line forward / No. 3-4 defenseman / journeyman No. 1 goaltender -- players not quite good enough to play on the top line or pairing on a regular basis, but still possessing enough talent to contribute offensively, defend with some authority, or competently play the goaltender's position for long stretches. Think Andrew Cassels, Jason Arnott, Darryl Sydor, Keith Carney, Dwayne Roloson, Jeff Hackett.

6 - Third line forward / No. 5-6 defenseman / Backup Goaltender -- generally speaking, players whose game is defensively-oriented, or whose abilities aren't quite good enough to land full-time duty on the 2nd line, top two defensive pairings, or the No. 1 goaltending position. Think Kris Draper, Stephanne Yelle, Igor Ulanov, Brad Lukowich, Jussi Markkanen, Manny Legace.

5 - Fourth line forward / No. 7 defenseman / depth goaltender -- players that populate the 4th line, will fill in for injured defensemen, or have some ability to play goal in the NHL but are mostly very good minor league goaltenders. Think of any enforcer you care to name, or any energy player you care to name, or any unlucky defensemen or goaltenders that don't quite have enough talent to crack an NHL lineup full time.

4 - Top minor league forward / defenseman / goaltender -- players unlikely to have long careers in the NHL, but will be recalled when injuries or other circumstances arise.

3 - Average minor league forward / defenseman / goaltender -- players who will in all likelihood will spend their entire careers in the minor leagues.

2 - Minor league role-player -- players who populate minor league rosters that have virtually no shot of making it to the NHL.

1 - Borderline minor league player -- players one step away from the beer leagues.

+Realistic Probability Rating (A-F)
(the player's realistic chances of achieving their potential):

A - All but guaranteed to reach potential - 100 percent metaphysical certitude that the player will play up to his abilities as noted by his potential rating. In this case, the potential rating is multiplied by 100 percent for depth chart purposes, signaling that the player is a lock to reach his given potential.

B - Should reach potential, could drop 1 rating - likely to reach potential, but may have a hole or two in his game that will keep him from reaching his full potential. The potential rating is multiplied by 90 percent for depth chart purposes, which indicates slightly less certainty about a player’s future performance.

C - May reach potential, could drop 2 ratings - has shown some flashes, but may ultimately not have what it takes to reach his potential. The potential rating is multiplied by 80 percent for depth chart purposes to show the uncertainty of a player reaching his potential.

D - Unlikely to reach potential, could drop 3 ratings - a player who has a chance to reach his potential but is unlikely to do so. The potential rating is multiplied by 70 percent for depth chart purposes, indicating that the player's potential is extremely fluid.

F - A player possessing little potential who has a mountain to climb just to reach the outermost boundary of that potential. The potential rating is multiplied by 50 percent depth chart purposes.

 


Duracell3's picture

I'd be willing to bet when he was up an coming , no-one ever rated Dominik Hasek a 9.


andrewberkshire's picture

Why not?


seriously?

you're joking right?

ok - let's trade Tom Pyatt for Ian Schultz.

even trade, right?

Schultz has never played a single game in the NHL???

 


andrewberkshire's picture

Shultz is 3 years younger than Pyatt, bigger and more physical. I like Pyatt, but he doesn't have that much experience either.


TornApart's picture

Personally, I'm torn apart over this decision.


joeybarrie's picture

Why should they have different ratings? I would never want to guess who is better given one of them is 20 and the other 23...

3 years ago Pyatt was in the OHL with similar stats...

There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey...


they are ranking them both TODAY - not taking into account the age difference.

You think Schultz has the same chance of making the NHL as Tom Pyatt?

 


joeybarrie's picture

Actually, I think the whole idea of Hockey Prospects is ranking their future ability. I could be wrong...

There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey...


Right you are Joey, there's rankings are based on future ability more than where the player is currently at.

Time to drop a little education. Hockey Future’s rankings are somewhat odd. First, the number, is a ranking of “realistic potential ability.” Second, the letter, is the “realistic chances of achieving their potential”.

A 6.5 C means, a player in between a second line forward (7) and three line forward (6) with the realistic chances of reaching this being a maybe, but the player could also drop 2 rating spots.

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/playerprojections/


SlovakHab's picture

I like those ratings. I understand them this way: The number is talent limit. 6 would be someone who doesn't have a bigger talent that NHL 3rd liner. The letter could include many things, explaining how far is the player from achieving his talent limit.

5A would be a can't-miss 4th liner - someone who doesn't have the talent, but is an excellent hard worker with a huge motivation. Someone who will almost sure make the NHL based on his motivation/confidence/personality.

7D would be a talented head-case that could be a 2nd liner in the NHL if he got his head straight, or someone with a great talent who doesn't have the size and could suffer because of it..


They make a lot of sense, but I can see how they would confuse someone who didn't understand them.


Storm Man's picture

Your right. Based on realistic potential ability.


TripleX's picture

It's a losing battle Ed.  xD

You fight a brave fight though dude, I marvel at your patience and stamina.

 

"And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL." PIERRE McGUIRE


whatever - I'm taking some time off from work for vacation so I won't be on HIO very much going forward.

you have a bright future ahead of you - stay away from the clowns and focus only on the guys who want

to add something to the discussion.

(this Mark dude is also very impressive :-) )

 


TripleX's picture

Thanks Ed, have a great vacation.

I will be at the cottage for the month of August with spotty internet so I won't be on that much either.  We both probably need some time away from HIO.  xD

 

"And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL." PIERRE McGUIRE


Storm Man's picture

Things are looking good Joey keep up the good posts.


ManApart's picture

There's a procedure out there called Lasik. Prices are very reasonable these days.


Pucker Up's picture

I think that you should Pucker Up and kiss my avatar.


ZepFan2's picture

LMFAO

------------------------------------------------------------------------ After admiring the Stanley Cup: "This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us." - Steven Tyler (Aerosmith's lead singer)


SeriousFan09's picture

There is a lifestyle out there called 'not being an arrogant jerk who thinks he's smarter than everyone', you should check it out.

 

- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/


ManApart's picture

I really don't like to be like that, but I just  can't help speaking out against the BS. Never a real or an honest comment out of some of you. Just biased talk that has nothing to do with reality. I'm the type of guy that's going to call people on BS, when I hear it.


joeybarrie's picture

What would actually be nice is to have you actually say something ABOUT the BS, and not simply state that it is BS... I am curious to find out what in my post about our young players is considered BS...

There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey...


ManApart's picture

Do you read my endless rants? All I do is point out people's BS and state why I think it's BS. I back most of it up with my reasoning and many examples or facts to back up my opinion. I'm not Storm Girl, who just says you suck and that's it. I can't say much about your post was BS. With prospects you can't say much for sure, because they've never played NHL hockey. Anything's possible. There's just more or less likely. I just think you're overvaluing some of them and your idea that things "look good" is overly optimistic. I don't think they look too great, especially with the loss of Boucher.


Storm Man's picture

Manparts I call you out and want to to find any post where I Say you suck in it. As for the BS part I do think you full of it. I hope you copy and paste that. 


andrewberkshire's picture

You see Joey, that would wreck his thing. James likes to come in here and talk a bunch of s**t without saying anything, he just sticks to "you're wrong, I'm right" and then gloats when anything happens because he's covered his bases.


SeriousFan09's picture

What you percieve to be BS that is, you're no more an expert on hockey than anyone else here. Yet you post with an air of authority that says only we can be wrong, never you. A lot of us are realistic about the team's chances but we don't engage in fatalistic talk and say only we can be right about the team's future.

 

- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/


ManApart's picture

I'm no expert and can be wrong. I'm just not in comparison to guys like you and ones who talk like you. I mean there are numerous occasions where guys like you and Berkshire and Nickle argued against things I said and were shown to be completely off. Not so much the other way around. Never, from what I recall. Why? Because I just state what is common sense and what is the situation. It's not like I go out on a limb. You guys try to argue what reality is. No wonder i'm always right. The only time I went outside a commonly accepted "truth" was my idea that Halak was the better goalie going back a few years.  I was in the small minority and based it just from my observations of their play and feel for their rate of improvement. I turned out to be right on that one, but for the most part what I state is basically what everyone else states, except for the minority "reality fighters".


"i'm no expert"-probably the only thing you have ever posted that everybody can agree on.

Leafstv "telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years"


andrewberkshire's picture

I can't believe the size of your ego. Of course you don't remember when you're shown to be wrong, that would break the intense delusion that is your life on HIO.

As for Halak, he's been the better goalie from December 2009-current, and before that for 2 months last season. That's it.


ManApart's picture

I actually don't have much of an ego at all. Just stating things how they are, at least in my view (which is usually right ;) Halak has been the better goalie for a long time. It's hard to say how long because he was not given a chance until recently. I would say, it could be easily argued he has been better since Jan 2009.


How could you possibly have an ego,you would actually have to be right about something once or twice a year to have one. You said the habs would miss the playoffs,you said they would lose in the first round,then you said the second round,then you said price would be traded,then you said pleks was "as good as gone". The only person who has a worse track record then you is retromikey.

Leafstv "telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years"


andrewberkshire's picture

"The only person who has a worse track record then you is retromikey"

And TripleX


TomNickle's picture

Do we get full benefits in our crew Andrew? According to James I need therapy because I have some psychological issues.

 


andrewberkshire's picture

Purse strings are a little tight since you and Seriousfan09 demanded raises and went to arbitration. Crews have salary caps too ya know.


andrewberkshire's picture

It could be argued, but during that time Price has outplayed Halak for stretches. And that's about as far back as you could possibly say Halak outplayed Price. Even then that's a bit over a year, not many years as you state.


SeriousFan09's picture

Halak has not been the better goalie for the last 3-4 years. He's been better for the last season and a half. Price posted better stats in the 06-07 AHL playoffs than Halak had in either of his very limited AHL seasons (over two years, a total of 56GP out of a possible 160). In 07-08, Price made the All-Rookie team of the NHL on his 24-12-3-3 record. He was on a tear to start the 08-09 season and excellent stats until his injury and decline.

Was Halak better since February of 2009? Yes, but he only became as good as he had over time, working in practice and competing agianst Price for starts. This year he wasn't carrying the team to a playoff spot before Markov came back either. His wins put the team in the playoffs but he nearly sent them out of them as well in that near-disasterous final week of the season.

Halak always being better has been a myth trotted out but it hasn't been proven, better over the last year and a half of regular seaosn play? Yes but always better over the last 3-4, completely untrue with no credible evidence.

 

 

- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/


ManApart's picture

I agree. I never stated Halak has been better the whole time. He wasn't. Price was a fair margin better his rookie year (I actually really liked him back then). Halak just accelerated his development and Price kind of regressed or reached a ceiling. The past 1 1/2 years Halak has blown past Price by working harder and just improving at a much higher rate. Can Price break through his ceiling? It's possible he will get better. Probably will. How much, nobody can say. IMO, I don't think he will ever become what people think nor will he ever be a better goalie than Halak. Right now that is the case. We'll see how the next few years go.


TripleX's picture

 

Because of the age difference between Halak and Price plus the varied rosters and games they may have played direct comparisons are difficult.  Looking at what is available the two goalies are quite similar after all is said and done.

AGE 21 - HALAK - .906 - 2.89 -  2 SO - 10 W

            - PRICE - .905 - 2.83 - 1 SO - 23 W

 

AGE 22 - HALAK - .934 - 2.11 - 1 SO -2 W

            - PRICE - .910 - 2.24 - 0 SO - 11 W

AGE 20  - HALAK NOT IN NHL

     - PRICE - .920 - 2.56 - 3 SO - 24 W

Obviously the big advantage Price has is NHL experience at his age.

 

"And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL." PIERRE McGUIRE


Rugger's picture

Somewhere on this page you stated that dreaming of potential is killing the franchise.  Where is the evidence of that or even the widespread belief in that such that it is a commonly accepted "truth".  You are just as much full of BS as the rest of us.


ManApart's picture

I was mostly referring to Price on that one. The team has gone to that well and been buried on numerous occasions. The man was given chance after chance and finally failed enough to lose his spot. What happens? They trade the man who performed minor miracles last year and give Price another free pass without him earning it. Why? Imagined potential. Has hurt this franchise in the past. It may turn out to be all right, but if it goes along the same lines as it has been. This franchise is killed. AK46 may be another example of wishful thinking. Management wants so much to be proven right, they hurt the franchise because of what they perceive as potential. Potential is garbage. Reality is what matters. I think the vast majority of commentators and fans thought trading Halak away in favour of potential Price was a bad move. So it is a commonly accepted "truth" in this case. It still hasn't been proven for sure, but it sure looks that way.


Rugger's picture

Well, to add more perception to it, I do not see the majority of commentators and fans (and how do you count fans that do not comment here or elsewhere?) thinking the trade was a bad move.  I see it based upon comments here only about 25% extremely opposed, 25% very happy and the rest of us taking a wait and see approach.


Storm Man's picture

I gave you the number a few weeks ago.... I guess you forgot here it is again hope it helps 514-362-8677.


ManApart's picture

The only good thing that you mentioned is Subban, the rest haven't proven a thing and are just hopes. No way is Eller projected as a 1st liner. He's been said 2nd at best. He's a second tier prospect but should become a regular one day. But to hope he'll be an impact 1st liner is extremely remote.


joeybarrie's picture

Elite Prospects would disagree with you. And Hockey futures rankes him between 1st and 2nd lines.... Doesnt mean he will be, but it says he can fight for top two lines...

Any player that hasnt really played in the NHL yet is still just a HOPE... But I guess the fact that he got onto the AHL all rookie team means nothing to you... If you look at the company he is in you might change your tune.

Eller...... 5 points in 7 games at the World Championship and helped them to their first quarter final ever...

There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey...


ManApart's picture

Hey, good luck to him. I just wouldn't get my hopes up. The point is this franchises depth is horrible. No top 6 help this off season and a boatload of so-so bottom 6, maybes. Kristo could be good though. I've been very disappointed with this summer's moves by PG. This team had some huge holes, with a garbage offense and a very one-dimensional and weak team. Nothing has been done at all. On top of that, our goalie position is now one of the best in the league to one of the worst. How the hell is this team supposed to come close to beating Wash and Pitts again, never mind Philly. I'm telling you, this management team must be fired at all costs.


if i recall correctly eller has only had two 20 or 21 goal seasons in his career including one something like 6 years ago in denmark when he was 16 years old? washington and pittsburgh won't be the problem, its toronto, tampa bay, atlanta, rangers, hurricanes, etc. who will be trying to grab that 8th place away that habs have held onto for 2 years.


Curtoph's picture

He did say possible first liner down the road. Since we have two first lines or two second lines, the possibility is there. Not that extreme, we'll have to sit back and watch!


if markov misses 20 games can our pp produce with spacek,hammer, and gorges playing the point with pk...past history with us seems to indicate no..hopefully martin has a plan to use other than these three with pk.  


Even with Markov, I worry about the PP. Where's the left shot on the off point for one-timers? Montreal's PP for the better part of the past decade has stunk without a lefty on the right point.


joeybarrie's picture

Stunk for the better part of a decade??????????

Number 1 team twice, number 2 team once and top 5 twice... Um in fact i would have to say the Canadiens PP has dominated for the better part of a decade...

There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey...


No no, without having a LH on the right side they've stunk. Remember when they tried Markov on the right and Tanguay on the left? That didn't work out, which lead to Schneider returning to Montreal. Montreal's PP was in the 20's that year until Schneider was traded for.


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