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Short relives the day Blair silenced her for criticising the Iraq war

Former PM 'was willing to be deceitful because he thought conflict was right'

By Michael Savage, Political Correspondent

Clare Short arriving at the inquiry yesterday

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Clare Short arriving at the inquiry yesterday

Tony Blair was prepared to "deceive" Parliament over Iraq and freeze out opposition within his Government because of his unshakeable belief that it was right to topple Saddam Hussein, a former cabinet minister has said.

Clare Short, who was the International Development Secretary before resigning shortly after the March 2003 invasion, also revealed that she was "jeered" by cabinet colleagues and told to be quiet by Mr Blair when she attempted to dispute the legality of the war. She added that Gordon Brown had complained to her that Mr Blair was "obsessed with his legacy" and was determined to use a short, decisive victory in Iraq to secure it.

In the most ferocious attack on Mr Blair's style of government heard by Sir John Chilcot's inquiry to date, Ms Short said the former Prime Minister had ignored warnings that post-war preparations were not ready because he was "frantic" to give his backing to President Bush. Plans on Iraq were decided by a small group of his "mates", while she was frozen out during the summer of 2002.

"I'm not saying he was insincere," she said. "I think he was willing to be deceitful about it because he thought it was right."

Ms Short, who became the first MP to be given a round of applause after her evidence, told the Iraq Inquiry that Lord Goldsmith, the former Attorney General who gave the legal green light for military action, misled the Cabinet in doing so. While Lord Goldsmith told the Cabinet on 17 March that the war would be legal, just 10 days earlier he had advised the Prime Minister that while a "reasonable case" could be made for the invasion's legality, he could not guarantee that a court would agree. "I think for the Attorney General to come and say there's unequivocal legal authority to go war was misleading," she said.

Video: Cabinet was misled says Short

She also directly challenged Lord Goldsmith's claim that ministers declined the chance to debate the legality of the war. Ms Short added that Lord Goldsmith had been "leaned on" and excluded from decisions in an attempt to force him to change his mind over the legality of the war, something he has denied.

She said that Mr Blair used "secretiveness and deception" to take Britain to war, while the checks on his power had "broken down quite badly" during his drive to join the US-led invasion. In particular, she said a tactic to "blame the French" for vetoing any further action against Saddam was "a deliberate lie". Ms Short added that France and other UN members may have backed military action at a later date.

"I noticed Tony Blair in his evidence to you kept saying, 'I had to decide, I had to decide.' And indeed that's how he behaved. But that is not meant to be our system of government," she said. "When you add secrecy and deceit the system becomes positively dangerous."

A letter published by the inquiry yesterday showed that Ms Short had warned Mr Blair before the invasion that preparations for the reconstruction of Iraq were not ready and that military action should be delayed. In the correspondence, sent two weeks before the war, she warned of a "possible humanitarian crisis" unless planners were given more time.

She said that the US body overseeing the post-war strategy was "under-staffed, under-resourced and under-prepared for the scale of the challenge" as the war approached. "You should be aware that the US and the international humanitarian community are not properly prepared to deal with the immediate humanitarian concerns," she wrote. "A little more time would make the US much better able to deal with some of the humanitarian consequences of conflict."

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Short is petty and immature
[info]mikeclark1 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 February 2010 at 03:53 am (UTC)
Short's criticism are all about minor process points. It's hardly very damning. She claims the AG misled here. But it was well known that there were different opinions about 1441 - she didn't need the AG to tell her that - and what the AG advises might happen at a court is different from giving his own final opinion of the legality.

Her other great claims of lies is that Tony Blair told her the UN would be involved after the invasion and there was going to be a Palestinian state. Now, it was always clear that Mr Blair wanted more UN involvement after the war, but it again was fairly obvious that this might not happen to the extent that he desired. Everybody knew the Bush administration's views on such things. And as for a Palestinian state, again Blair lobbied hard for this and did get Bush to sit down with Abbas and Sharon, but such a process can never be guaranteed. It's nonsense to say this was some big lie.

This is very weak and petty claims from Short. It's of a completely lower order to the claims of others who assert Blair invented the whole threat and lied over the big issues. Simon Hoggart sums up her evidence very well - it's petty and immature.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/feb/02/simon-hoggart-sketch-clare-short
Re: Short is petty and immature
[info]faircomment wrote:
Wednesday, 3 February 2010 at 11:34 am (UTC)
Well mikeclark1 there seems to be a consensus based upon your contributions that if any one is petty and immature it is you and if anyone was paranoid and delusional it was your hero Tony Blair! Still there is room for for your views, at least we tolerate them, the man you defend only had one dictum "my way or no way" and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis and hundreds of loyal British troops had to pay with their lives as a result!
Re: Short is petty and immature
[info]mikeclark1 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 February 2010 at 09:04 pm (UTC)
Thankfully we beat them. That has honoured the name of our soldiers and has revenged the dead civilians. You should be extremely proud.
Re: Short is petty and immature
[info]faircomment wrote:
Thursday, 4 February 2010 at 11:53 am (UTC)
Beat who? The poor Iraqi people who were miserable enough under Saddam, then starved and incapacitated by sanctions and as if they had not suffered enough killed and maimed in their hundreds of thousands in the name of "regime change". And proud of what? An act that far from making the world a safer place has made it, and Britain in particular, a more dangerous place. Should I be proud of my country for becoming an American puppet, abdicating the rule of law and human rights in rendering its own innocent citizens to places of torture and abuse? No, I along with millions of other British people feel utter shame at the dishonour and discredit brought on our nation by the acts of the person you support.
Mike Clark = Tony Blair ?
[info]tureolsen wrote:
Wednesday, 3 February 2010 at 06:08 am (UTC)

Every time someone in the Chilcot inquiry is critical of the war "mikeclark1" is sure to make an ad hominem attack with smears and lies. To him, Blair and Goldsmith are pillars of the society and should be fully trusted and anybody critical of them are of course full of deceit.

Mike, the only time the war was tested in a court of law (by the Dutch) it was found to be illegal. The experts on international law in the foreign office concluded the war was illegal. if you think the war was legal.....who gives a rats ass ?

Anyone who was pro-war at the start of the war and are still pro-war now when no WMDs were found in Iraq are clearly simpletons. The pro-war people went to war because Saddam according to them had WMD. No WMD was found. End of story. Unless you are a moron.

Re: Mike Clark = Tony Blair ?
[info]david_fta wrote:
Wednesday, 3 February 2010 at 06:49 am (UTC)
Gday Tureolsen. Methinks the pro-war people such as this "Mike Clark" cared not one jot for the presence or otherwise of WMD. Methinks they are Dick Cheney's lickspittles.

Perhaps Mike could guide us as to how Ms Short's all-too obvious (to him, anyway) failings alter in any way the veracity of the extensive accumulation of evidence against Blair and Campbell.
Re: Mike Clark = Tony Blair ?
[info]tureolsen wrote:
Wednesday, 3 February 2010 at 07:49 am (UTC)

You are probably right but the "real" reason why Bush, Blair et al. went to war, (oil, israel, to impress daddy .. ?) is irrelevant. The pro-war lobby claimed Iraq had WMD and therefore was a threat to the US and UK. They also claimed the threat was imminent because they could not wait for the inspectors to finish or until they had got a UN resolution authorizing an invasion. They furthermore claimed that Iraq was in breach of old UN resolutions because it had not got rid of its WMD.

So what happened ? They decide to illegally invade Iraq. They destroy the country. Kill hundreds of thousands. Create millions of refugees. But find no WMD. Nada ! Clearly Saddam had been telling the truth about WMD all along and Bush and Blair had been lying. At this point anyone with the capability of feeling shame would never ever again take the word Iraq in their mouth. The moment Bush and Blair had to admit that there were no stockpiles of WMD in Iraq or a nuclear program the game was up and everybody supporting the war had eggs on their face. At this point you shut up. Unless you are a moron.
Re: Mike Clark = Tony Blair ?
[info]mikeclark1 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 February 2010 at 09:02 pm (UTC)
They destroy the country. Kill hundreds of thousands.

No you'll remember that the Americans stayed to rebuild the country and stop the Al Qaeda killings. They strongly opposed those deaths and did everything they could to stop it, whilst many in the antiwar movement wanted the Americans to leave and hand the country over to these people. The US also stayed true to their word to bring democracy. Now that country has majority rule for the first time.

Create millions of refugees. But find no WMD. Nada ! Clearly Saddam had been telling the truth about WMD all along and Bush and Blair had been lying

No, duel use equipment that wasn't declared was found, along with detailed plans to build long range missiles by 2007. Dr Kelly was right that only regime change would take out the long term threat.
Re: Mike Clark = Tony Blair ?
[info]panic2009 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 February 2010 at 06:59 am (UTC)
he is a moron as are most of the press. dignified investigative journalism would sort the whole charade out. unfortunately, corporations own arms manufacturers who own governments who own newspapers blah blah blah.

the truth is out there. you just have to take the blinkers off and find it
Re: Mike Clark = Tony Blair ?
[info]geo32 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 February 2010 at 03:31 pm (UTC)
Just to put you in the picture Alistair Campbell uses "Mike Clark" as a his psuedonym when he posts mails to the media.

I watched most of Clare Shorts testimony she may have been a little petty but certainly NOT immature. She gave evidence as she saw it through first hand experience, her replies did show that she has a firm grasp of PROPER parliamenty procedure unlike the overpowering bully Tony B.Liar

When asked questions she did not introduce other matters as a diversion as did our Tone

She was most believable and I think it a pity she came AFTER Blair in this inquiry
Re: Mike Clark = Tony Blair ?
[info]mikeclark1 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 February 2010 at 08:58 pm (UTC)
Just to put you in the picture Alistair Campbell uses "Mike Clark" as a his psuedonym when he posts mails to the media."

Ho ho. No need to lie, kid.
Re: Mike Clark = Tony Blair ?
[info]mikeclark1 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 February 2010 at 08:57 pm (UTC)
Every time someone in the Chilcot inquiry is critical of the war "mikeclark1" is sure to make an ad hominem attack with smears and lies.

Where is the smear and lie?

Mike, the only time the war was tested in a court of law (by the Dutch) it was found to be illegal.

The Dutch have never believed in the revival argument, unlike the UK. It was the foreign office lawyers who told Goldsmith about the revival argument. Don't worry, you won't hear this in the media so I forgive your ignorant.

The experts on international law in the foreign office concluded the war was illegal. if you think the war was legal.....who gives a rats ass ?

The foreign office lawyers contradicted themselves. They said 1441 started a new process, when they had previously believed in the revival argument, but they said the 1998 bombings had legal backing under the ceasefire resolutions. This meant that they were effectively saying the war would have had more legal backing if Blair has never gone back to the UN in the first place. No, Goldsmith's evidence was much more coherent.

Anyone who was pro-war at the start of the war and are still pro-war now when no WMDs were found in Iraq are clearly simpletons. The pro-war people went to war because Saddam according to them had WMD. No WMD was found. End of story. Unless you are a moron.

Yes, very good logic. Seriously though, Saddam remained a threat whether or not he currently had WMD. It was his job to comply with the UN resolutions. You can be proud of what was done in your name.

Thanks for the contribution.
Band-wagon Betty
[info]had_it wrote:
Wednesday, 3 February 2010 at 08:23 am (UTC)
At least Ms Short's hindsight has now lined up with the accepted wisdom for her hear-say testimony.
Re: Band-wagon Betty
[info]nicholforest wrote:
Wednesday, 3 February 2010 at 10:13 am (UTC)
It is not clear what point you are trying to make. The letter that Short wrote to Blair before the invasion warned that lack of preparation could lead to a humanitarian disaster. That is neither hind-sight nor hear-say although it is now accepted wisdom.

Her description of Blair's way of doing government (informal, secretive, no notes etc) accords with both other evidence and the finding of the Butler inquiry (of which Chilcot was a member).

In content, her evidence was damning. It is a shame that Robin Cook is not around to contribute. The rest of the cabinet are prisoners to their own silence (and shame).
Balls
[info]brinksman wrote:
Wednesday, 3 February 2010 at 09:37 am (UTC)
fair play to Clare. She was one of the few with balls to take on the bullies collectively known as the Bush and Blair twins.
www.millarcrime.com
Resignation
[info]drg40 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 February 2010 at 10:21 am (UTC)
So it took a non-expert, amateur, elected representative of the people to say that the armed forces were not ready and resign.

How many of the 6 figure salaries with gongs, rings, epaulettes and lanyards followed her? Where are the corpses of the so called professionals who should have fallen on their swords rather than let their men and women go to war without body armour, for example?

Now we know that Short was right, but how was Blair to know when the "professionals" kept silent?

OOH I bet they feel so ashamed when they cash their great fat retirement cheques.

Incidentally, where is the man or woman that advised Short that there was a desparate shortage? That person really does deserve a statue in Trafalgar square.
Can't argue with that
[info]kuma2000 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 February 2010 at 11:30 am (UTC)
Mr Blair was "obsessed with his legacy" and was determined to use a short, decisive victory in Iraq to secure it.

Apart from the bit about the short decisive victory. But Iraq secured Blair's legacy as worst prime minister we have ever had as well as a legacy as a lying war criminal scumbag we all hate.
Well said Clare, without doubt the best act on Chilcot so far..
[info]fumanchuria wrote:
Wednesday, 3 February 2010 at 07:11 pm (UTC)
And unlikely to be bettered. B.Liar is the most dissimulating person, let alone politician, you're ever likely to meet, and I have. He will go down in history as a lying, conniving Machiavellian turd. If there were any justice he'd contract some awful, incurable and painful disease; something like pox that would show his evil to the World.
A curse on him and all his tribe.
PS, I think it is true,
[info]fumanchuria wrote:
Wednesday, 3 February 2010 at 07:18 pm (UTC)
Clark equals B.Liar and/or Cumpbell uses it as his Nom de Plume.
Ugh, what a dreadful thought that we might be sharing our air time with either of them, particularly arsehole Cumpbell; B'Liar is bad enough but Cumpbell, makes your skin crawl.

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