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Greenberg: Polyphony's done "years of mini games"

MS mouthpiece mocks GT boys, talks up Halo Reach
Microsoft's product management director, Aaron Greenberg, reckons Halo Reach will own 2010, laughing off the challenge from PS3 exclusives. Gran Turismo 5, for example.

"Is it launching next year? I've seen years and years of minigames, but I haven't seen that the game is done," said a clearly confident Greenberg of Sony's flagship racer.

"They just released the PSP version -- maybe that's what they've been working on. I feel confident that there's nothing that will compare in size. Halo: Reach will be the biggest game of 2010."

Greenberg goes on to explain why 360 will dominate 2010. "We will do three things well. One, we will continue to offer a better value on hardware pricing ... Two, we will have more games, more blockbuster exclusives, no matter the genre," he told Gamasutra.

"Three, you add all of the entertainment and social network. That's our focus, to keep adding more and more value. Consumers vote with their dollars, and so far it's been paying off, and we feel confident about next year as well."

Bold words indeed, but we'd expect nothing less from Microsoft's main cheerleader. Your thoughts are invited in the comments section below.

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....and here we have it.

Idiot - that's all that really needs to be said.

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ParmaViolet on 11 Dec '09
Dick.
yerbluesjohn on 11 Dec '09
Who predicted this morning that CVG would wait until almost end of business to post this article?

I take my hat off to you (but don't have time to go back through the earlier thread to find out who it was). Cool
Random Hangman on 11 Dec '09
Who predicted this morning that CVG would wait until almost end of business to post this article?

I take my hat off to you (but don't have time to go back through the earlier thread to find out who it was). Cool

I believe it was StoneColdMC.

Smile
ParmaViolet on 11 Dec '09
Well he didnt own 2009 so he is hardly gonna acheive that with one game!!!
bennyboi1979 on 11 Dec '09
Well he didnt own 2009 so he is hardly gonna acheive that with one game!!!

Actually, I'd have to say that I would expect Reach to be the top selling game next year - it's Halo, it's bound to sell millions (I won't be buying it myself, however). The only thing that may beat it would be something on the Wii.

Having said that, it's stupid for someone like Greenberg to mock a company like Polyphony - it just ends up making him look like an utter buffoon. I don't think that too many GT fans care if it beats the Halo: Reach sales figures (or vice versa), so he's basically trying to wind up a non-existent situation.

Smile
ParmaViolet on 11 Dec '09
I think the less said about that, the better, really.

He's an absolute juggernaut of s**te.

Rolling Eyes
Mark240473 on 11 Dec '09
i don't see why he is attacking GT itself, it's not like the forza guys were s**t talking Gran turismo ?


Halo:Reach and GT are completley different games, how can he even compare them, spastic.


To be honest, in my own opinion, Halo games are nothing more than a averagey FPS that have great multiplayer features. How he can rip a Driving SIM game when he is trying to defend an overly extended game i have no idea.

*Also, my views on halo are my own, not some fanboyish remarks to start a flame war, it's a good game, but brings nothing new in my opinion .. except for the first one, that was actually brilliant.
feedel on 11 Dec '09
What a load of pish, put your baldy half-incher away boy, and when you've grown a pair think about what your talking about.

I'm pretty sure GT5 will be a great game and I can't see Halo Reach being more than milking the franchise to death, ODST wasn't great either IMO so this had better blow everything else away, MS could always ship it on 3-4 discs to optimise that though!!
bmaindj on 11 Dec '09
Who predicted this morning that CVG would wait until almost end of business to post this article?

I take my hat off to you (but don't have time to go back through the earlier thread to find out who it was). Cool

I believe it was StoneColdMC.

Smile

Thanks ParmaViolet, I think you're right there. Well done StoneColdMC (I hope Alan Wake is all you are dreaming for), well done CVG for being so predictable and well done Greenberg for taking long enough to pull the d*ldo out of your bottom and your face out of the bowl of coke long enough to spew another random waterfall of complete cr*p!

I am done. Have a good weekend people! Razz
Random Hangman on 11 Dec '09
Really looking forward to seeing the first footage of Halo Reach amongst others (Crackdown 2, the next Star Wars title - a new Battlefront?, Tron and hopefully some Natal or "Gem" teasers) tomorrow night at the VGA awards. Very Happy
steve_2003 on 11 Dec '09
i don't see why he is attacking GT itself, it's not like the forza guys were s**t talking Gran turismo ?


Halo:Reach and GT are completley different games, how can he even compare them, spastic.


To be honest, in my own opinion, Halo games are nothing more than a averagey FPS that have great multiplayer features. How he can rip a Driving SIM game when he is trying to defend an overly extended game i have no idea.

*Also, my views on halo are my own, not some fanboyish remarks to start a flame war, it's a good game, but brings nothing new in my opinion .. except for the first one, that was actually brilliant.

I believe he's comparing them as the biggest selling franchises on their respective systems.

On-topic. Yeah his statement is full of that American bravado BS, but Reach will be one of 2010 biggest titles no doubt.

Can't wait to see it tomorrow, alongside the surprise announcements. Very Happy
Black Mantis on 11 Dec '09
Hang on, surely reach will own next year whether we like it or not, i think he's just trying to put ms's game up against sony's biggest hope for next year, regardless of genre.

Ms have had another great year and next year is looking even better,.....he's still a c**k though.
ingy on 11 Dec '09
What a prize pillock that guy is. Arrogant snooker cue.
kimoak on 11 Dec '09
Sounds like the reaction of a child. Giving it all the mouth but the truth is he's s**tting a brick.

Question. How many Xbox games has Gran Turismo outsold?

Answer. Every single one.

Face it Mr Microsoft, GT is coming and its going to be a huge seller. Acting like this is childish.
only_777 on 11 Dec '09
Typical crap from this deluded moron. M$hite are a company that excel in talking sh*t and being irrelevant in terms of their games, an irrelevant comparison like this coming out of them is not a surprise.

This jock's a complete tit and he'll soon be crumbling when his precious $hitbox drops into last place
JuiKuen on 11 Dec '09
Well I know I'll be buying GT and not ANOTHER Halo game...

Zzzzzzz time for a new IP Bungie, this one smells a bit off.
Currychips on 11 Dec '09
just because of he's being a total dick, i'm gonna pirate his damn game and save my money on well worth masterpiece, the holy gt5
rivariad on 11 Dec '09
QUESTION : are only_777 and juiken sony paedostation chavvy granny beater fanboys?
ANSWER : YES
dorian2011 on 11 Dec '09
QUESTION : are only_777 and juiken sony paedostation chavvy granny beater fanboys?
ANSWER : YES
dorian2011 on 11 Dec '09
QUESTION : are only_777 and juiken sony paedostation chavvy granny beater fanboys?
ANSWER : YES

How many times can you be wrong in just one statment?

Im a Sony fanboy? No, I just think 360 is s**t. I sold my one here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250528039336&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m38.l1313%26_nkw%3D250528039336%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

Sony Paedostation? Looks like you need to keep up with the news my boy: http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/104/1045531p1.html

Sorry that MS are acting like children by bad mouthing the biggest ever selling racing game and prentending its not a big deal. Becuase its clear it is a big deal, by saying the idiot things he has said just shows how stupid he is. Im not saying Sony are any better becuase they too have come out with some top class idiot quotes too, and i'd be calling Sony out to had they said something against the Halo francise.

But your silly petty coment shows how defencive you get over someone taking a swipe at your pretty little MS. Try not to cry fanboy when they come last at the end of this generation, becuase NDP sales data is pointing at a big fat last place for them.
only_777 on 11 Dec '09
what is reach is it a sequel to 3 or another money makin gimmick spin off. halo is over rated and is aging fast the graphics are same as the rest of them.. and im no fan boy so dont even start that crap i own both consoles ps3 and 360. just givin my opinion on the article..
diddly3000 on 11 Dec '09
that article is irellavent as the ps3 is full of creepy old men who cant be blocked so they will swap addys and keep hassling young girls and boys, i speak from personal expierence
dorian2011 on 11 Dec '09
Sere, dorian's retarded comment is no surprise since M$hite employ retards themselves like Greenberg himself.

Two things for dorian: I don't own a PS3 and am not a fan of Sony as such. Also, I'd say the 360 has more a chav base than the "creepy old men" that obviously buy PS3s. Chavs can't afford a PS3 anyway Rolling Eyes

F**ktard
JuiKuen on 11 Dec '09
its funny how people groan about "ANOTHER Halo game" when GT5 is just GT4 with better graphics.

there is a bigger market for shooters than for racing games, which is what GT is, a game, not a sim.

will GT5 even be released in 2010? im not entirely convinced. if it does, will it be better than Reach? not a chance.
Cernunnos on 11 Dec '09
what is reach is it a sequel to 3 or another money makin gimmick spin off. halo is over rated and is aging fast the graphics are same as the rest of them.. and im no fan boy so dont even start that crap i own both consoles ps3 and 360. just givin my opinion on the article..

Reach is a Prequel. based on the first Halo book Fall of Reach, which is an amazing book. and i recomend reading it.

and Halo isnt overrated, its not even really highly regarded. its still the most played game on XBL ever, you cant argue with that. Wink
Cernunnos on 11 Dec '09
Super Mario Galaxy 2 will be the biggest game of 2010 so unlucky there Microsoft.
stedman on 11 Dec '09
haha what a pr*ck! i hope gt5 p**ses all over you!
bunneyo on 11 Dec '09
douche
backcue on 11 Dec '09
Lulz. I'm with Eurogamer on this one: Where the f*ck is Alan Wake then? Hasn't that game been in development now for about 8 years? And to top it off - it's gonna be a pile of sh*t!

I'm not bothered about GT5 or Halo, but this big boy talk really is annoying!
DevilsNeverCry on 11 Dec '09
what is reach is it a sequel to 3 or another money makin gimmick spin off. halo is over rated and is aging fast the graphics are same as the rest of them.. and im no fan boy so dont even start that crap i own both consoles ps3 and 360. just givin my opinion on the article..

and Halo isnt overrated, its not even really highly regarded. its still the most played game on XBL ever, you cant argue with that. Wink

After reading your post in that other thread, all I can say is: shut the f**k up
JuiKuen on 11 Dec '09
Cant stand mouthy snooker cues from microsoft. Halo was cool in its day but they are killing it completely Greedy bastards. Needs to be left alone for at least a decade.GT5 should and will p**s all over reach. Has greenberg got a chip on his shoulder over PS3 getting the console of 2009.Bungie better give master chief an oxygen mask to protect him from the fumes of GT5 screaming ahead.
dravin369 on 11 Dec '09
Greenberg really should stay out of the gaming industry, He clearly knows nothing about it.

For example neither of those two titles will be the game of 2010.

If you guy's have worked in the gaming industry, you would know much better titles are on the way, Okay both are good (more Gran Turismo than HaloTripe) but games such as Alan Wake, Heavy Rain, and of course titles that we have seen glimpses of this year, such as Beyond Good & Evil 2.

All of which earn a much healthy "Next-Gen" title rather then the two he stated.

I may work for Microsoft, but hell i'm not a fanboy for it. I wonder how much Microsoft are paying him to damage his reputation but also to insult worthy contenders, and loyal ones at that.
KMakawa on 11 Dec '09
It's quite clear mass effect 2 will be game of the year.
Closely followed by god of war 3.

I'll be buying both.
blagger on 11 Dec '09
Is alan wake 2 out now then Mr greenberg? Im sure fans would have prefered a mini game of that than nothing?

Our eggs are better than their bacon.

He clearly doesnt rate heavy rain then either, which look great.
Barca Azul on 11 Dec '09
It's just an insult to the years of good hard work Polyphony have done. The guys got an awfully big mouth, maybe he should put it to better use than blabbing on about shit he doesn't know about. I don't see how another poor Halo game can be top selling either, the whole series itself is garbage.
The Bossman on 11 Dec '09
If all the rumors are true, and i hope they are. Splinter Cell could be looking good as well. I love SC:CT, and if they are trying to one up that game, im sold. Dont get me wrong, Double Agent was solid, but multiplayer was weak. Halo will do well. GT5 will do well. So we will see. . .

I hate the Wii
EddieNES on 12 Dec '09
It's kind of ironic coming from Greenburg saying there were two less than impressive Halo games from Microsoft this year. Maybe they were only mini games.
voodoo341 on 12 Dec '09
Whoa whoa whoa...

I think alot of you kids need to actually read the article on gamasutra before letting your mouths run off...

I will save some of you the trouble:

When asked if perhaps Sony's Gran Turismo 5, which is set to launch in Japan in March and is likely to launch in the West in 2010 as well, might give it a run for its money, Greenberg was dismissive.

"Is it launching next year?" he mused. "I've seen years and years of minigames, but I haven't seen that the game is done. They just released the PSP version -- maybe that's what they've been working on. I feel confident that there's nothing that will compare in size. Halo: Reach will be the biggest game of 2010."


They guy was asked directly by gamasutra whether GT5 would be bigger (god knows what this actually means) than Halo Reach, he gave them an answer.

Remember the guy works for MS, he is hardly going to say 'Oh I think GT5 is a great game, yeh it will be bigger than Halo'...
Shabozi on 12 Dec '09
Shock horror! PR from microsoft talks up own brand and puts down the competition.
pishers on 12 Dec '09
To be truthful, if Halo Reach is a new game (not an extended add on) then I might be tempted to get another 360.

It's been ages since the 360 platform released decent exclusive titles, unless you solely dig online gaming for L4D2 (a sequel to a year old game which uses the exact same engine with some newer ideas).

In fact on Xbox 360 in 2010 we had an online co-op game L4D2, the Halo ODST extension, GTA4 download content but one proper full AAA title in the shape of Forza.

On PS3, I picked up proper full AAA exclusive titles in the shape of Killzone 2, Infamous, R&C CIT, Uncharted 2 and imported D Souls this year on PS3 (how people claim that their PS3 just collects dust is unbelievable) so I think MS are sweating that 2010 is going to be the same, especially since GT is one of the PlayStations most treasured and profitable franchises.

It only makes sense to show they're worried about GT by comparing it to their own treasured and profitable series, Halo as any other reason makes no sense.

Mind, the Xbox 360 has done really well to hold its position and the Ł50 price average is still a benefit on its part, shame about the additional purchases not advertised, the Live fee, the wireless router etc etc. It does hold a better community (probably because of the included headset) but PSN pretty much beats Live hands down everywhere else.

Good to see MS press the panic button though.
starsail on 12 Dec '09
Well I know I'll be buying GT and not ANOTHER Halo game...

Zzzzzzz time for a new IP Bungie, this one smells a bit off.

GT, GT2, GT3, GT concept, GT 4 prologue, GT4, GT5 prologue, GT PSP, GT5 and you say its Halo which smells a bit off ... riiiight.
Not ANOTHER wannabe driving simulator that is nothing more than a PS-game with new graphics ... Zzzzzz

P.S. Greenberg still is an a-hole who should shut it.
Gemini319 on 12 Dec '09
... "In fact on Xbox 360 in 2010 we had an online co-op game L4D2, the Halo ODST extension, GTA4 download content but one proper full AAA title in the shape of Forza" ...

Sorry, meant 2009!!
starsail on 12 Dec '09
I cannot believe he's compareing halo to GT. I havent played a GT game yet, but this one looks awsome!
HeartlessSystem on 12 Dec '09
Reading threads like these always make me chuckle. Tend to only get about 1/4 way through though, before "they" start repeating themselves heh (:
goatmms on 12 Dec '09
whats the fuss about having access to social networking sites on a games console? seriously, if i really want to update my twitter that much or check my facebook i go on what it was made for... a computer with an internet browser.
as for the thing about hardware prices, its no wonder that you can make a console for a cheap price when its made of tin foil. and everyone knows that something which is cheaper quality breaks more than something which is more expensive but better quality...
Burney123456789 on 12 Dec '09
It's one thing to talk smack, we unfortunately expect that with rival companies, it's another issue to be completely oblivious to big games in development that might be potentially released in the same year as your big game and could deflect media attention and sales. Idiot.
NazAareth on 12 Dec '09
LOL, these guys can't stop talking about Sony's games. There own games lack the quality and polish. I'm glad Sony takes time with there games, because it shows in the final product.

Quality is better than quantity.


Having all three consoles, I can say what I want. But lately I'm going against Microsoft there lack of exclusive games and the way they talk down other platforms games really is cringeworthy.

They have added a few services to XBox live that they think stand out, all of which are accessible through th PS3 web browser.

Microsoft please stop making crap games, buy some studios and end the Halo franchise im bored of it. It would be nice If you could release Alan Wake as well. I can't believe I wasted my money on Forza 3, the game is identical to 2. You liars said 10X more detail.
majorraj on 12 Dec '09
oh stasail oh starsail psn is a tesco value xbox live or mabye a lidl or aldi version, of course you would love it tho because you can hound little girls and boys on the unsecure paedostation then you acn rape and abduct them in ur vauxell corsa chav mobile

the 360 has a amazing line up next year and this year was good, we had lots of exclusives some you wont have heard of like sherlock holmes vs jack the ripper and infernal hells vengance(if you can look past the bugs) and lots more, and stop calling halo odst an expansion pack it f**king isnt, the campaign is longer and firefight is better than horde on gears
dorian2011 on 12 Dec '09
microsoft have been doing this pathetic mudslinging from day one of there console business, they are pathetic, drive the whole industry down and they make me sick,plus they are so about to get the taste slapped from there mouth.t**ts
martinawatson on 12 Dec '09
i think your forgetting that sony give as good as they get martin, they trash talk as much as microsoft
dorian2011 on 12 Dec '09
LOL
starsail on 13 Dec '09
oh stasail oh starsail psn is a tesco value xbox live or mabye a lidl or aldi version, of course you would love it tho because you can hound little girls and boys on the unsecure paedostation then you acn rape and abduct them in ur vauxell corsa chav mobile

the 360 has a amazing line up next year and this year was good, we had lots of exclusives some you wont have heard of like sherlock holmes vs jack the ripper and infernal hells vengance(if you can look past the bugs) and lots more, and stop calling halo odst an expansion pack it f**king isnt, the campaign is longer and firefight is better than horde on gears

PSN trounces Xbox Live, with its free online browser to stream videos, BBC iPlayer, Vidzone, rent or buy the latest movies, help treat and cure diseases, Home, the biggest online arenas, 30+ Killzone 2, 60+ Resistance 2 and 250+ MAG and best of all, its free!! Its mainly enjoyed by hard working adults who can afford the slightly higher cost of the machine.

But Xbox Live does have cross game chat and party chat and um ... thats it! Unless you enjoy forking out for Sky lol on top of that you have to pay a fee!!! Its also mainly enjoyed by 13 year old immature boys who cant afford a PS3.

When I talk exclusives, I mean decent ones, Killzone 2, Infamous, R&C CIT, Uncharted 2 etc etc not to mention imports such as White Knight, Yakuza and D Souls, sorry if sherlock holmes vs jack the ripper and infernal hells vengance slipped my mind lol. ODST is an expansion, I owned most of the maps it made available when I had my Xbox and the campaign was even shorter than Halo 3's (which is astonishing considering it was the shortest of the series).
starsail on 13 Dec '09
Dorian how much do M$ pay you to act the way you do?
bunneyo on 13 Dec '09
na they dont pay me i just think the ps3 is a unsecure breeding ground for undesirables and when your sister gets hounded by a paedophile on psn like mines did u will feel the same, and starsail psn is crap, and i see youve forgot to mention last fm? i would pay 40 quid for that hands down, bbc i player? haha please thats for old people only got two decent shows on that, family guy and mighty boosh oh and top gear and thats it, while with sky we have the best of the best. and vidzone please :L zune is 10x better, and im sure 13 year old boys enjoy ur company in ur van but i think the 360 is more orientated at family and adults thats why it has a secure network so paedophiles can be blocked and prevented. ratchet and clank is a kids game so i dont see how you can justify your mature ps3 notions and one more thing resistance 2?hahahhhhhhh that is a mediocre shooter and killzone is nothing special and mag you have to wait 30 mins for a game tht is waste of time for the casual gamer not the pale face panty sniffer like your self
dorian2011 on 13 Dec '09
last fm? i would pay 40 quid for that hands down

Your an idiot then.
only_777 on 13 Dec '09
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