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Mass Effect 2 lifts replaced by loading screens

Replacing one complaint with what's sure to be another. Oh oh...
The oft-complained about lifts in Mass Effect will be replaced by loading screens for Mass Effect 2, in a move that will undoubtedly lead to even more moaning.

The original Mass Effect had long lift sequences to disguise loading and couldn't be avoided. Even when installed to the hard drive, the lift sequences stayed exactly the same length because they had been hard-coded in. It lead to a lot of moaning by players and jokes about how long it took to get anywhere.

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BioWare heard the moaning and promised to change things - now when you walk into a lift you'll get loading screens with "interesting visuals and information" instead. Which is... worse?

Those who complained about the lifts in Mass Effect will now almost certainly complain about the loading screens in Mass Effect 2, with the added bonus of moaning about "breaking immersion." We'll have to wait and see.

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Boo Hisss.....bring back cartridges ..only kidding SmileI hated the lift bits, in an otherwise brilliant game.
Trevor_Compton on 7 Dec '09
I liked the lifts, it always gave you a wee bit of Galactic News over the tannoy.
ensabahnur on 7 Dec '09
Maybe they could add a gradual loading screen, like something off a C64 game? Possibly with a bit of Rob Hubbard music playing in the background?

That would be a day 1.

Laughing

Seriously though, nothing could be worse than the soul destroying lift segments - with added small-talk.

They sucked.

Whatever, the game looks awesome.
Mark240473 on 7 Dec '09
You could do absolutely anything with loading screens - a quick game of tetris, asteroids....anything! I don't know why devs don't put something like that in. Obviously what you play would need to be carefully considered so as to not ruin the mood of the game, but there are options.

I did keep thinking that it would be a good idea to do some sort of card game on the Fable 2 loading screens to earn you a bit more in-game gold. Something quick on the same lines as blackjack.
altitude2k on 7 Dec '09
Never ever listen to your community. They only f**k things up for everyone else.

I had no problems with the lifts, simply kept the immersion there. Now i get to probably look at a tips screen. Thanks alot, bunch of c**ts.
Bibbo on 7 Dec '09
The lifts aren't the end of the world. Why couldn't they just change em so they only last as long as it takes to load the next section, i.e. they'd be shorter if you have the game installed... dynamically timed lift journeys? No? Oh well.
yerbluesjohn on 7 Dec '09
I liked the lifts, it always gave you a wee bit of Galactic News over the tannoy.

I liked them too. I agree that they did take a bit too long, but they should've kept them if they've managed to shorten the load times.
Black Mantis on 7 Dec '09
i liked the lift sections. It was a clever way of not breaking the your suspension of disbelief. LIke the rerendering of the city sections on assassins creed or the doors in resi. We all know they're loading screens really but they're more interesting than just a progress bar and maybe a picture.

I personally think especially in RPGS and open world games in general we need fewer apparent loading screens and more interesting ways for them to be hidden.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 7 Dec '09
I liked the lifts, it always gave you a wee bit of Galactic News over the tannoy.

Yeah, i didn't mind them either. I liked it when you did a side mission or something like that and the tannoy would give the news about what you have just done....

"In other news, a renegade biotic commune has been destroyed....."....that kind of thing.

The only lift that was a pain in the rear was the one on the ship itself.....takes a whole minute to go down one level!
nottsville on 7 Dec '09
Loading screens are always going to be a bit of a pain, there's no real way of getting around the fact that they're stopping the game. I don't really care what the ME2 loading screens look like, it's still going to be a wicked game.
darry on 7 Dec '09
I have to agree - the lifts weren't too bad. I liked that you might hear about something you did a couple of missions back or get a little bit of background info. It all adds to the immersion.

I guess it depends how long the loading screens are. I don't want to be sitting looking at a single page for a couple of mins, but wouldn't mind if it's only a few seconds.
Dajmin on 7 Dec '09
I didn't mind the lifts, as people have said, you got a nice bit of background info, though it did get a bit annoying when you just wanted to change floors on the Normandy.
GTCzeero on 7 Dec '09
It's a real shame, as my Sheppard had a great bottom to check out while waiting for the lift to arrive. Gawd bless her...
BeauBeau on 7 Dec '09
Maybe they could add a gradual loading screen, like something off a C64 game? Possibly with a bit of Rob Hubbard music playing in the background?

That would be a day 1.

Laughing

Seriously though, nothing could be worse than the soul destroying lift segments - with added small-talk.

They sucked.

Whatever, the game looks awesome.

used to love his stuff on the C64, last ninja being my fave!!!!

agreed, games gonna be mint....
headspin on 7 Dec '09
Maybe they could add a gradual loading screen, like something off a C64 game? Possibly with a bit of Rob Hubbard music playing in the background?

That would be a day 1.

Laughing

Seriously though, nothing could be worse than the soul destroying lift segments - with added small-talk.

They sucked.

Whatever, the game looks awesome.

used to love his stuff on the C64, last ninja being my fave!!!!

agreed, games gonna be mint....

Preferred Monty On The Run or Shadowfire myself.
Suivatam109PS3 on 7 Dec '09
U didn hav the use them...(except the dockbay 1) u could jus use the quicky car thing (sorry the name eludes me at te mo Mad ) plus u had a bitta bant between ur 2 squad members ...didn mind at all.........NOW THE TEXTURE POP UP>>>>A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad
Fallen_Olympus on 7 Dec '09
So the lesser of two evils is to be replaced by the greater...

The online Mass Effect community changed dramatically as soon as the PC version was released.

Although I'm a high end PC gamer myself, as soon as the console haters showed up the forums became tedious, eventually turning into a big whinge-fest.

These are the same people who believe that they can spend a fortune on the top spec rigs and then never spend a penny on the games themselves.

Parasites.
petpiranha on 7 Dec '09
I didn't mind the lifts too much for the most part; they allowed for interesting inter-party conversations to be triggered. That said, it did get a bit old at times when you just used an elevator only to realise you actually needed to stay where you were in order to accomplish something, etc.

The new approach of interesting images and info about the in-game universe sounds good to me. Smile
The_KFD_Case on 7 Dec '09
I liked the lifts, it always gave you a wee bit of Galactic News over the tannoy.

That too!
The_KFD_Case on 7 Dec '09
You could do absolutely anything with loading screens - a quick game of tetris, asteroids....anything! I don't know why devs don't put something like that in. Obviously what you play would need to be carefully considered so as to not ruin the mood of the game, but there are options.

I did keep thinking that it would be a good idea to do some sort of card game on the Fable 2 loading screens to earn you a bit more in-game gold. Something quick on the same lines as blackjack.

That might be useful at the beginning stages where money isn't exactly overflowing, providing you could continue playing the card game (or whatever,) after the loading is complete. From "ME" money was hardly an issue later on in the game - actually finding meaningful things to spend your saved millions on became the issue instead. An issue BioWare rectified in "Dragon Age" by going from feast to famine (which annoys me a bit). In that game you can not buy all the best equipment for your entire party. The best you can hope for is to buy a few pieces. Apparently this forces you to think about your purchases and choose carefully. Thanks BioWare; when I want a dose of reality I'll step away from my computer and rejoin Earth. Rolling Eyes

One would think that a middle ground could be reached between being too rich and being too poor to buy cool equipment. Alternatively, an equipment system generating random high quality gear could be in place and there could be more to buy (or invest in a la real estate property in "Oblivion"Wink.The random generation already existed to an extent in "ME" when you purchased different vendor licenses.
The_KFD_Case on 7 Dec '09
They were so infrequent they didn't bother me in the least in the first one. It was no Resi 1, with that 'opening door sequence' every two minutes, now that was bloody annoying!!.

We're far too spoilt these days methinks. Smile
flash501 on 7 Dec '09
I liked the lifts, it always gave you a wee bit of Galactic News over the tannoy.

Especially after you gave that reporter bird a good slap. hilarious.

Didn't mind the lifts overall, found they were a bit tedious when you were in the citadel and havng to go backwards and forwards (sorry, up and down) a lot. But that only happened a couple of times. Loading screens will be the same, just irritating in a different way. What ever, even if its 'only' as good as the first one then ME2 will rock.
shadyMrPatch on 7 Dec '09
I Liked the lifts too, but admittedly they needed more tannoy or more character chat.

possibly different poses too?
cjb110 on 8 Dec '09
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