Those all-knowing analysts predict that Stereoscopic 3D displays will be the next big thing in games, forecasting that over 40 million of us will be gaming in 3D by 2014.
Also good news is that, despite all the brain-tricking magic that's going on with the new tech, they say it won't be a repeat performance of Nintendo's eye-melting Virtual Boy.
Gaming in the future could look like this...
"We have played Stereoscopic 3D games for hundreds of hours and can report that the latest technology does not result in eye strain or fatigue," said Insight Media analyst Dale H. Maunu. "Our experience leads us to believe that S-3D gaming is more immersive and compelling than traditional gaming on a 2D screen, and it will help drive 3D adoption."
We've played Resident Evil 5 on a Viewsonic screen with Nvidia's 3D Vision glasses, and can confirm it's the absolute nuts. And a full 3D kit for PC only costs around £380. One for the January sales shopping list, we reckon.
I have a problem with my left eye so can't see 3D images properly, basically seeing the two images in their slightly offset position.
Surely there are lots of people out there without 20/20 vision, like myself, that can't see 3D images.
Even my son who has good vision doesn't like the fact the colour never looks quite right in 3D.
Now, if it was 3D in the style of the chess game being played by R2D2 and Chewbacca in Star Wars:Episode IV then that would be great, otherwise the whole 3D just leaves me underwhelmed.
I won't be cos my eyes are f**ked from years of gaming and it's hard for me to see these 3D images properly.
All you'll get it is scripted things where it comes out of the screen at you. It's bad enough in films and TV with stupid things set-up to happen (like in Chuck where a knife came at you - scary ), I don't want them in my games thanks. Although I don't speak for everyone so my opinion won't make a damn bit of difference.
It's never going to catch on. Hell, this is 20-year-old technology, for god's sake, and it didn't catch on back then. Just because gfx cards can now render a scene twice at the same time doesn't mean it's the best use of power.
I already have to wear glasses to work on a computer, the last thing I want is more headaches because I need to put more lenses over that and look at the world through the wrong colours. Eyes were not designed to only see one colour. Likewise, sight-impaired people (my girlfriend is only partially-sighted on one eye) can't use them properly.
I'd much rather see full 3D brought to us using advances in technology rather than regressing. Holographic TV sets, that's the way forward.
a friend of mine invested in the Nvidia 3d setup, i was a little sceptical about it, but went round and gave it a blast, and it was great fun. Even gave life to some of the older games he had. the sense of depth i got from Resi 5 was brilliant.
Like the above said, 3D's just a gimmick. let's work towards HD gaming for all, then on playing games with your mind. If we could play games with our mind, then we wouldn't have to worry about mind-finger reaction times, and instead about who can beat the other strategically. I actually signed up just to say that, usually I just comment on GR.
If the huge Hollywood film companies have been trying and failing to introduce 3D into the mainstream for the last God knows how long, how can they expect Gaming to do it in a matter of years?
Crikey both you girls who have written before are soooo cynical!
Get with the programme!!! - 3D is almost with us.
All the major US studios have embraced 3D.
Sky just announced their imminent 3D strategy, due to roll out in a few years.
Sony's PS3 is going to support 3D gaming.
These are the facts, ladies.
They are only doing this in an attempt to sell more sets and get people to see more films. For almost 100 years the movie industry has used 3D as a way to try to boost sales.
If you have ever seen a recent 3D film you will have noticed that although it is far better than older methods it is still utter rubbish! Yes the 3D effects are good but the glare on the glasses is so distracting that I was wishing that I had gone to see the 2D version. They have also yet to solve the slight problem of the 3D aspects of the film projecting into the auditorium (or your living room) and therefore overlaying peoples heads, coffee table, dog etc This is just so unnatural that it is distracting rather than enhancing. The only way to solve it is to use Virtual Reality style glasses but then you have the problem of being cut off from the other people you are watching with. Games will suffer from the exact same problem although as hardly any games have single room multi-player anymore there is not as much of a problem with using the VR glasses as people are used to being loners already.
I think some of you forget that there are two types of 3D TVs in the pipeline. One which requires you to wear clear coloured glasses (as opposed to the traditional blue and red ones), and one which doesn't require you to wear any glasses at all, though the effects aren't as impressive; but still, it's an improvement.
Either way 3D gaming could make things a lot more immersive and awesome, where as "proper" 3D like paul_brown940 said would just be awesome for strategy games like chess and C&C
I'm just hoping we'll see true virtual reality in my lifetime, 'cos that would just be the bees knees
What about people who wear glasses like i do im not looking forward to this at all. If they can come up with something for people who wear glasses and it doesnt look stupid i might be interested
I think some of you forget that there are two types of 3D TVs in the pipeline. One which requires you to wear clear coloured glasses (as opposed to the traditional blue and red ones), and one which doesn't require you to wear any glasses at all, though the effects aren't as impressive; but still, it's an improvement.
Either way 3D gaming could make things a lot more immersive and awesome, where as "proper" 3D like paul_brown940 said would just be awesome for strategy games like chess and C&C
I'm just hoping we'll see true virtual reality in my lifetime, 'cos that would just be the bees knees
The tvs that do not use glasses are of two types. One where there are multiple zones that you need to sit in to get the effect (which is rubbish) and the other uses tracking cameras to alter the screen to where you are sitting so is only suitable for 1 person viewing it (which is also rubbish)
This is clever tech but that does not make it good.
The tvs that do not use glasses are of two types. One where there are multiple zones that you need to sit in to get the effect (which is rubbish) and the other uses tracking cameras to alter the screen to where you are sitting so is only suitable for 1 person viewing it (which is also rubbish)
The kind that uses tracking cameras maybe a bit rubbish due to only being suitable for one person, but it could really add to the depth of single player games (and online multiplayer gaming too) as it pretty damn amazing.
Thing is that can also be done on normal TVs using a Wii and homebrew software, as this ingenius guy proves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw
(note: originally posted by someone else on this site. Can't remember who though )
The tvs that do not use glasses are of two types. One where there are multiple zones that you need to sit in to get the effect (which is rubbish) and the other uses tracking cameras to alter the screen to where you are sitting so is only suitable for 1 person viewing it (which is also rubbish)
The kind that uses tracking cameras maybe a bit rubbish due to only being suitable for one person, but it could really add to the depth of single player games (and online multiplayer gaming too) as it pretty damn amazing.
Thing is that can also be done on normal TVs using a Wii and homebrew software, as this ingenius guy proves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw
(note: originally posted by someone else on this site. Can't remember who though )
As I said it is very clever. However I prefer to play games with other people in the same room (online is just not the same as watching someones face as you either beat them or loose to them). Imagine trying to play fifa with the tracking tvs. 1 person gets the 3d effect the other gets blurry cam image. Nice.
Also it still does not get around the fact that the images sit unnaturally in your room as your players will be overlaying your rug, table etc.
As I said it is very clever. However I prefer to play games with other people in the same room (online is just not the same as watching someones face as you either beat them or loose to them). Imagine trying to play fifa with the tracking tvs. 1 person gets the 3d effect the other gets blurry cam image. Nice.
Also it still does not get around the fact that the images sit unnaturally in your room as your players will be overlaying your rug, table etc.
If you watch that video of the guy creating the effect using a Wii, you'll notice he also shows what it looks like to other players in the room, and the images don't get blurry images; they just don't look as awesome And overlaying things in the room isn't a problem as the technology hasn't got that far yet (some day )
And yeah, I know what you mean about having other people in the room. But sometimes it's not better as they can cheat by looking at your screen, but then again you can't cheat by unplugging their controllers in return At least that's what the Vuzix iWear is for (if only I could afford one...)
I think 3D is utter ****, no point to it, it is just a fad and a bad one at that.
OK I want to view this from another point of view for a moment. What could or are the long term effects of using 3D glasses for both your eyes and how your brain comprehends things? 3d is bearable for 2 hour for a 3d movie once in a while but what about prolonged use of the glasses for a gamer who plays 8 hours a day everyday? There must be some permenant effect and I would bet they wouldn't be good.
Saw christmas carol in 3d and all i can say is its a fad i wouldnt watch that for more than once - and hell no to playing games in 3d - im afraid 3d wont last although all the companies are pushing it unless of course the non glasses sets become super cheap
Where did this 3D thing for gaming start popping from? everywhere I look its 3D this, 3D that, when all of sudden did we all decide we want to play our game with 3D glasses?
As I said it is very clever. However I prefer to play games with other people in the same room (online is just not the same as watching someones face as you either beat them or loose to them). Imagine trying to play fifa with the tracking tvs. 1 person gets the 3d effect the other gets blurry cam image. Nice.
Also it still does not get around the fact that the images sit unnaturally in your room as your players will be overlaying your rug, table etc.
If you watch that video of the guy creating the effect using a Wii, you'll notice he also shows what it looks like to other players in the room, and the images don't get blurry images; they just don't look as awesome And overlaying things in the room isn't a problem as the technology hasn't got that far yet (some day )
And yeah, I know what you mean about having other people in the room. But sometimes it's not better as they can cheat by looking at your screen, but then again you can't cheat by unplugging their controllers in return At least that's what the Vuzix iWear is for (if only I could afford one...)
It does not look like anyone else is playing in the video, it does show the guy moving the wiimote around while the viewpoint is from the glasses.
When I talk about overlay I am not talking about some technical way of overlaying computer graphics over real world objects, I am talking about the effect of the 3D images being over the top of your furniture etc. eg in cinemas the 3D effects appear on top of peoples heads etc which is very distracting as it is so unnatural. For instance you should not be able to see your rug if the football pitch is projected into your room.
How is someone cheating by looking at the same screen as you while playing FIFA?
I tried out the new 3D TV set up at my work, and it was very impressive, the definition was perfect, and the effect was amazing. People against it would change their tunes once having tried it out. It still required glasses, but they were basically polarized sunglasses and not your red and blue jobbies.
The one issue for me is that when I play games I usually wear my glasses as my contacts tend to dry out, and wearing glasses on top of glasses is a bit of a no goer. However, I’m sure there will be some kind of workaround for this as they will have surely thought about us poor vision impaired peeps.
imagine the headaches you'll get playing ass creed for 10 hours. just because some stupid lizard businessmen have declared 3d the 2nd coming doesn't mean it is, f**ktards.
imagine the headaches you'll get playing ass creed for 10 hours. just because some stupid lizard businessmen have declared 3d the 2nd coming doesn't mean it is, f**ktards.
I'm sure people felt much the same when talking about the change over from B&W to colour!
Also, if 3D can suck balls I'd welcome it into my flat, as watching porn would put a whole new spin on interactive entertainment.
imagine the headaches you'll get playing ass creed for 10 hours. just because some stupid lizard businessmen have declared 3d the 2nd coming doesn't mean it is, f**ktards.
I'm sure people felt much the same when talking about the change over from B&W to colour!
Also, if 3D can suck balls I'd welcome it into my flat, as watching porn would put a whole new spin on interactive entertainment.
That'd be my only reason to adopt it. i really don't want to be jumping around my room, flailing my arms about, with those stupid glasses on to play mw7
imagine the headaches you'll get playing ass creed for 10 hours. just because some stupid lizard businessmen have declared 3d the 2nd coming doesn't mean it is, f**ktards.
I'm sure people felt much the same when talking about the change over from B&W to colour!
Also, if 3D can suck balls I'd welcome it into my flat, as watching porn would put a whole new spin on interactive entertainment.
The thing is that they have been saying this about 3D since before colour tv existed!
It does not look like anyone else is playing in the video, it does show the guy moving the wiimote around while the viewpoint is from the glasses.
And afterwards it shows the viewpoint from the view of a person who isn't wearing the glasses (from about 3:50 to 4:10)
When I talk about overlay I am not talking about some technical way of overlaying computer graphics over real world objects, I am talking about the effect of the 3D images being over the top of your furniture etc. eg in cinemas the 3D effects appear on top of peoples heads etc which is very distracting as it is so unnatural. For instance you should not be able to see your rug if the football pitch is projected into your room.
Ah ok, I get you now. Yeah it might seem unnatural at first but then again I'm sure we'd get use to it soon enough. Hell we (humans) have got used to a lot unnatural stuff over the years, like flying
How is someone cheating by looking at the same screen as you while playing FIFA?
Erm... seeing which of your players has the ball? I don't really like football games (or sports games for that matter), but I meant in general for games like FPSs or Mario Kart
It does not look like anyone else is playing in the video, it does show the guy moving the wiimote around while the viewpoint is from the glasses.
And afterwards it shows the viewpoint from the view of a person who isn't wearing the glasses (from about 3:50 to 4:10)
Ah, I did not see him put the glasses on the first time. However I am now a little sceptical after thinking about it as I am unsure of how the camera is picking up the 3D as the display is outputting for the wearer of the glasses and therefore there is no way it can also output the effect for a second viewer. The whole point of the glasses is so the wii can determine the position of the wearer to calculate how it is to display the graphics so that the wearer can see the 3D effect. It would however be relatively easy to use special effects to make it look as if these effects are happening.
If this man can do this on a normal TV with a Wii what on earth are all the worlds consumer electronics companies doing pouring millions into research on specialist displays to achieve a worse effect?
When I talk about overlay I am not talking about some technical way of overlaying computer graphics over real world objects, I am talking about the effect of the 3D images being over the top of your furniture etc. eg in cinemas the 3D effects appear on top of peoples heads etc which is very distracting as it is so unnatural. For instance you should not be able to see your rug if the football pitch is projected into your room.
Ah ok, I get you now. Yeah it might seem unnatural at first but then again I'm sure we'd get use to it soon enough. Hell we (humans) have got used to a lot unnatural stuff over the years, like flying
I am sure we can get used to unnatural things, however distracting things will always be distracting. I want the ball to look like it is on a solid pitch, not a hybrid of my carpet. Also depending on the colour of the objects that are in the way will depend on whether it is even possible to see the ball/character/enemy at all!
How is someone cheating by looking at the same screen as you while playing FIFA?
Erm... seeing which of your players has the ball? I don't really like football games (or sports games for that matter), but I meant in general for games like FPSs or Mario Kart
Online is good for games that require many players but when it can all be done on one screen offline is the way forward. My game taste is varied and I hope that I have more than FPS games to play in the future. Some of the best multiplayer games ever made are best played with all players in one room (Powerstone, Worms, Bomberman etc etc).
Ah, I did not see him put the glasses on the first time. However I am now a little sceptical after thinking about it as I am unsure of how the camera is picking up the 3D as the display is outputting for the wearer of the glasses and therefore there is no way it can also output the effect for a second viewer. The whole point of the glasses is so the wii can determine the position of the wearer to calculate how it is to display the graphics so that the wearer can see the 3D effect. It would however be relatively easy to use special effects to make it look as if these effects are happening.
Which is what you said before, and he says the same thing himself that it'll only work for the person wearing the glasses. Personally I can't get my head around how the whole thing works (where as some of my friends can), but I know it must work as it's been publicly shown and he even got hired my Microsoft shortly afterwards (probably has been working on Natal since).
If this man can do this on a normal TV with a Wii what on earth are all the worlds consumer electronics companies doing pouring millions into research on specialist displays to achieve a worse effect?
Good point, but I think one of the reasons would be that otherwise the software would have to be implemented individually for everything that wanted to use it rather than be in the TV itself for easier coding. Though also the 3D TV technology had been in research/production long before this guy figured that out.
I am sure we can get used to unnatural things, however distracting things will always be distracting. I want the ball to look like it is on a solid pitch, not a hybrid of my carpet. Also depending on the colour of the objects that are in the way will depend on whether it is even possible to see the ball/character/enemy at all!
Can you imagine what that would do to people's home insurance when they're tearing down their whole living rooms without even realizing?! But yeah, that of course would be amazing and what I meant by saying "proper" virtual reality, which of course is still going take a very long time to become a reality
Online is good for games that require many players but when it can all be done on one screen offline is the way forward. My game taste is varied and I hope that I have more than FPS games to play in the future. Some of the best multiplayer games ever made are best played with all players in one room (Powerstone, Worms, Bomberman etc etc).
I was just using FPS as an example as it's probably the most common one. And yeah sitting around your mates does have a different feel to it than playing with them online, but at least online gives us the option of still playing with them at all when having them around isn't convenient. It's also good for making new friends and whatnot too
Each to their opinions though, and I fully respect yours. Either way all we can really do is just wait and see what happens in the future. Hell I even saw earlier today claims of the first fully working flying car; shame it's only Ł324,000 otherwise I'd probably snap one right up
Ah, I did not see him put the glasses on the first time. However I am now a little sceptical after thinking about it as I am unsure of how the camera is picking up the 3D as the display is outputting for the wearer of the glasses and therefore there is no way it can also output the effect for a second viewer. The whole point of the glasses is so the wii can determine the position of the wearer to calculate how it is to display the graphics so that the wearer can see the 3D effect. It would however be relatively easy to use special effects to make it look as if these effects are happening.
Which is what you said before, and he says the same thing himself that it'll only work for the person wearing the glasses. Personally I can't get my head around how the whole thing works (where as some of my friends can), but I know it must work as it's been publicly shown and he even got hired my Microsoft shortly afterwards (probably has been working on Natal since).
The information on the page also does not strictly say that it is 3D tv. It seems to make out that the camera tracks the head and then alters the perspective in the game which gives a greater sense of depth of field. This is not strictly the same as 3D tv where the image projects in to your room. It is more like looking out of a window (which is incidentally the words used by the inventors). This leads me to believe that the film is enhanced to make it more obvious what is happening.
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), I don't want them in my games thanks. Although I don't speak for everyone so my opinion won't make a damn bit of difference.
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At least that's what the Vuzix iWear is for (if only I could afford one...)
