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The_KFD_Case
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For once I have praise for Sony. This decision does right by the gamers, IMO.
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jubbgi01
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 1:35 pm |
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In what crazy world is that fair on gamers? Real gamers don't cheat to get ahead! |
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wildhook2
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 1:35 pm |
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Good move Sony. It is not gamers' fault, it is IW's fault. |
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altitude2k
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 1:38 pm |
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There's absolutely 0% chance of me getting banned from XBL for this.
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svd_grasshopper
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 1:39 pm |
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this will remain a glitch until IW fix it.
are MS just going to continue banning all who use it?
that makes sense 
solve the root of the problem. get on to the developers, not the gamers.
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allygray69
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 1:40 pm |
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IW have already announced a patch is nearly ready for the PS3 which will sort this. Panic over Click Here
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FlimFlam
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 1:41 pm |
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| Quote: | | For once I have praise for Sony. This decision does right by the gamers, IMO. |
What? Sony does right by gamers?
Which ones? the ones doing the cheating, or the ones that suffer due to the cheaters?
| Quote: | | Good move Sony. It is not gamers' fault, it is IW's fault. |
That right, because IW force you into cheating, it's by no means a conscious decision on the part of the player.
Is there something in the water this morning? |
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svd_grasshopper
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 1:46 pm |
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| FlimFlam wrote: | | That right, because IW force you into cheating, it's by no means a conscious decision on the part of the player. |
are you saying hundreds of players havent done this by mistake?
its IW's job to make sure battles are balanced and fair. this includes no glitches. |
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spud-o
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 1:52 pm |
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haha cant wait try this glitch out tonight
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wildhook2
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 1:53 pm |
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| spud-o wrote: | | haha cant wait try this glitch out tonight |
Bad news, I think it is now fixed, according to NeoGAF. (If you use PS3 version). |
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The_KFD_Case
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 1:55 pm |
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| FlimFlam wrote: | | Quote: | | For once I have praise for Sony. This decision does right by the gamers, IMO. |
What? Sony does right by gamers?
Which ones? the ones doing the cheating, or the ones that suffer due to the cheaters?
| Quote: | | Good move Sony. It is not gamers' fault, it is IW's fault. |
That right, because IW force you into cheating, it's by no means a conscious decision on the part of the player.
Is there something in the water this morning? |
Banning a paid for account on LIVE - be it for 2 weeks or permanently - is not a proportionate response to the use of an in-game glitch, IMO. Some gamers may be consciously choosing to exploit the glitch yet apparently it can also happen quite by accident. Should those who happen upon it by accident face the same punishment? How do you distinguish between those with intent and those whom were just fiddling around with their in-game equipment and settings? Furthermore, no money nor raw material is actually lost when someone exploits this glitch so banning them, which is a real-term paid-for resource, is not fitting and could possibly be grounds for a lawsuit despite what the ToU purports to state.
As has already been expressed in this thread and another thread, the problem originates from IW. Let the onus fall on them to fix it. Sooner rather than later.
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�a3HeadedMonkey�
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 2:00 pm |
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I've just been killed by this glitch. Played some team death match & it was rife with double shotguns & javelin glitchers. 
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The_KFD_Case
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 2:04 pm |
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| �a3HeadedMonkey� wrote: | | I've just been killed by this glitch. Played some team death match & it was rife with double shotguns & javelin glitchers. |
The more I read about this game the happier I am that I chose to vote with my wallet and not buy this over-hyped, too-short-for-the-price SP/sub-par MP title.
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FlimFlam
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 2:08 pm |
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| Quote: | are you saying hundreds of players havent done this by mistake?
its IW's job to make sure battles are balanced and fair. this includes no glitches. |
I accept that any glitch is the fault of IW, but it has to be said that where there are glitches there are a bunch of talentless cretins ready to exploit it. It can be done by accident, but lets face it, what are the chances, really? the number of accidental detonations compared to those cheating must be tiny in comparison.
I would imagine if they can tell you are using it, they can tell how many times you are using it, so it should be fairly easy to ascertain who is cheating and who is just extremely unfortunate. In a fortunate way. |
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tommygouldbourn
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 2:09 pm |
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Thank you once again Sony i am more proud of these guys than any other gaming platform and this adds to the long line of reasons i will always stay with the playstation brand. 
Btw why do gaming companies take the control to far?
i dont like cheats but banning them for doing so is a step to far.
How about this a name and shame so it shows on their gamertag as cheat?
I am already anoyed that Mw2 was overpriced to start and the whole console style servers for pc user...What.. Who do these people think they are? |
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dorian2011
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 2:13 pm |
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this is the reason i traded in my brand new ps3 slim i got for my birthday, sony endorse cheating, it just shows what the community is like ful of cheaters, chavs and paedophiles |
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headspin
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 2:18 pm |
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its wrong to ban people for doing it, but by the same token the people doing it shouldnt be doing it either, does it matter to them so much winning a game that they'll cheat to win??? banning them is not the answer, i find ridiculing them in the post game lobby usually works quite well and exposing them to be the cheating (or camping) cocks that they are, they usually end up getting ridiculed by everyone else in the lobby for it as well and therefore leave the lobby cos of the abuse they recieve for it.... result.... 
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headspin
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 2:19 pm |
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| dorian2011 wrote: | | this is the reason i traded in my brand new ps3 slim i got for my birthday, sony endorse cheating, it just shows what the community is like ful of cheaters, chavs and paedophiles |
and your next analogy???
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jonbwfc
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 2:24 pm |
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...Will probably involve Hitler. |
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StonecoldMC
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 2:31 pm |
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Cheats never win. Oh wait ...
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only_777
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 2:33 pm |
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Sony has choosen the right thing to do.
Yes its wrong to cheat, and you might think that MS are right to punnish those who cheat but here is the bottom line:
MS are taking the problem out of IW hands and putting it in gamers, so that means dev's can knock up shoddy games and its ok MS will punnish the gamers NOT the devs.
Sony see this (correctly) as a problem with the code that IW have written which will be patched VERY soon (if not already). If people dont play MW2 becuase IW cant write code right they'll play a differnt game, probably Uncharted 2. Sony don't lose IW does. If IW don't want to lose online users then they better get to work sorting out the problem sharpish.
MS are shooting themselves in the foot (again), they might ban people who done the glitch by accident, they might ban people who think this is some sort of secrect move. If these people get banned for something they didn't know, then both MS and IW loses becuase people will get pi$$ed off and might move to Sony for their gaming fix.
Yes cheating is wrong, but shoddy proggramming is even worse. MS have choosen to side with shoddy programming, Sony have choosen to give gamers the choice what they want to do.
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Dajmin
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 2:43 pm |
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That's b******s and a typical knee-jerk response.
It can take weeks for a developer to knock a patch together and test it sufficiently. In the meantime, the entire online community could be reduced to glitchers and cheaters. Then the only way to compete would be to play by the same (lack of) rules.
It takes no time at all to release a message that says you'll ban people for it until that patch can be released.
The only people Sony are helping in the immediate sense are the people using the exploit. Those not using it won't be affected. Those being hurt by it will continue to be hurt by it. That's hardly fair.
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StonecoldMC
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 2:46 pm |
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| Dajmin wrote: | That's b******s and a typical knee-jerk response.
It can take weeks for a developer to knock a patch together and test it sufficiently. In the meantime, the entire online community could be reduced to glitchers and cheaters. Then the only way to compete would be to play by the same (lack of) rules.
It takes no time at all to release a message that says you'll ban people for it until that patch can be released.
The only people Sony are helping in the immediate sense are the people using the exploit. Those not using it won't be affected. Those being hurt by it will continue to be hurt by it. That's hardly fair. |
No point reasoning with all these cheating sympathisers Dajmin, didnt you know its ok to cheat now? This is what modern (warfare) Gaming is all about .
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WHERESMYMONKEY
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 2:48 pm |
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I'm sure they'll be a patch for the 360 version. too. I think MS are doing the right thing. Cheating in online games is the lowest of the low.
It completely defeats the object of the game. Like the bastards that spam zangeif in SFIV. whats the damn point.
Was playing borderlands the other night and some guy turned up with an apparently hacked rocket launcher that shot about 20 rockets a time. looked cool but was bloody useless as it never hit anything.
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only_777
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| Posted: 3 Dec 09 2:49 pm |
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| Dajmin wrote: | | Those being hurt by it will continue to be hurt by it. That's hardly fair. |
No, whats not fair is that IW can release a bugged game and not get punished for it. Its not Sonys, Microsofts or gamers fault - its the fault of IW.
And if people quit playing MW2 becuase of it then other devs wont make buggy games. But by banning gamers just gives ALL devs a green light to make buggy games and not have to worry.
They'll all say "So what if our game has bugs in it, its ok MS will punish the gamers, not us!"
And thats the message MS send out by banning people.
I hate cheaters too, but I would hate even more if this was the event that lead to 100's of buggy games to be released becuase dev's don't need to be as tight with their play testing stages of development.
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