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Shock: Mass Effect 2 comes on 2 discs

And in the Collector's edition, 3 BioWare confirms...
BioWare's rocked the very foundations of the internet this morning by confirming that its epic action RPG sequel, Mass Effect 2 is just a bit too epic to fit on a single disc - so it's putting them on two.

Community coordinator, Chris Priestly explains, in handy number form:

"1 - Yes, there are 2 game discs for both the PC and Xbox 360 versions, both the Collector's and standard editions.

"2 - There is a 3rd disc with the Collector's Edition. This is a movie DvD containing making of and other bonus information.

"3 - The PC version is a standard install. You install the information from both discs and then play with 1 disc in the drive. No swapping.

"4 - The Xbox 360 does not have an install and does require disc swapping during play.

"5 - Even though there is a disc swap, it occurs at a carefully planned place in the game (that does not interfere with gameplay) and is done once. You do not swap back and forth. 1 swap and then done.

"6 - Why 2 discs? Answer: Because you cannot fit this much awesome on one disc."


What?! You mean we have to swap the discs?! Disgraceful.

Mass Effect 2 is in the shops on January 29 in Europe with a Collectors' Edition.

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What?! You mean we have to swap the discs?! Disgraceful.

Shocked Noooo it means I will have to get up off my bottom and everything. Crying or Very sad
lonewolf2002 on 4 Dec '09
This says to me that ME2 is going to be a bigger Game than the first one!

No complaints about swapping one disc from me then Very Happy .
StonecoldMC on 4 Dec '09
This says to me that ME2 is going to be a bigger Game than the first one!

No complaints about swapping one disc from me then Very Happy .

Or me, I hope the first disc ends on a cliffhanger so then you can rush out, put the kettle on, recoup your nerves, have a dump and then get straight back into part 2. Laughing
FiltyMonkey on 4 Dec '09
What?! You mean we have to swap the discs?! Disgraceful.

Shocked Noooo it means I will have to get up off my bottom and everything. Crying or Very sad

Even the staff are now taking the p*ss out of certain members Laughing
altitude2k on 4 Dec '09
Quite a lot of pc games have 2 discs these days.

Also, i wonder what will happen when you switch disk, will you still be able to visit the older clusters and do missions there ? or is it a point in the game where you cannot do the older misssions ?
feedel on 4 Dec '09
Any news as to whether this is going to be on Steam yet or not? I'm assuming it is but I haven't actually heard one way or another.
jonbwfc on 4 Dec '09
Shame it isn't coming to PS3.

1 blu ray -> 2 DVDs.
wildhook2 on 4 Dec '09
Mass Effect > No Mass Effect.

Just install both discs. Problem solved.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 4 Dec '09
Mass Effect > No Mass Effect.

Just install both discs. Problem solved.

Rolling Eyes

4 - The Xbox 360 does not have an install and does require disc swapping during play.
voodoo341 on 4 Dec '09
OR..... get it on one blueray?

Please bioware i'll be your best mate! I spent far too much time around my (last) best mates house playing the 1st one
phate666 on 4 Dec '09
Mass Effect > No Mass Effect.

Just install both discs. Problem solved.

Rolling Eyes

4 - The Xbox 360 does not have an install and does require disc swapping during play.

Monkey is right, on 360, games that come on multiple discs (like Blue Dragon) can be installed in their entirety, then played using just one disc. The man from BioWare is saying there's no mandatory install disc, because then loads of 360 owners wouldn't be able to play it. An install would probably be wise anyway, as the first game runs much better from the HDD than it does from disc (constant pauses for loading, for example).

And yes, you should be able to revisit old areas, like in Final Fantasy VII - IX on PS1. All the extra data is needed for speech and cutscenes. This leaves more disc space free for all the textures, etc, on both discs.
AJDarkstar on 4 Dec '09
Mass Effect > No Mass Effect.

Just install both discs. Problem solved.

Rolling Eyes

4 - The Xbox 360 does not have an install and does require disc swapping during play.

Monkey is right, on 360, games that come on multiple discs (like Blue Dragon) can be installed in their entirety, then played using just one disc. The man from BioWare is saying there's no mandatory install disc, because then loads of 360 owners wouldn't be able to play it. An install would probably be wise anyway, as the first game runs much better from the HDD than it does from disc (constant pauses for loading, for example).

And yes, you should be able to revisit old areas, like in Final Fantasy VII - IX on PS1. All the extra data is needed for speech and cutscenes. This leaves more disc space free for all the textures, etc, on both discs.

Although the way it has been worded does make it sound like swapping discs is mandatory. Which is odd.
lonewolf2002 on 4 Dec '09
Sounds good to me. The CE version of "ME2" will be similar to the CE version of "Dragon Age" then. I want the CE PC version and plan on picking it up as soon as I have the chance upon release.

I can appreciate why having to switch a disc multiple times during a game would be a smidgeon annoying when playing on a console several meters away from where you are sitting (on a PC it's hardly a big deal and in this case won't matter since one disc only is needed after the initial installation) - especially if you keep revisiting different areas of a game that each requires a different disc (ex. "Star Ocean: The Last Hope"Wink. However, since BioWare have gone out of their way to point out that you will only need to switch discs once on the Xbox 360 version I hardly think that is an unbearable inconvenience. I am curious to see as to whether or not it is possible to install the entire game on the Xbox 360 and not have to switch discs at all.
The_KFD_Case on 4 Dec '09
Flippin' eck! You only have to swap the disc once!

If I had to swap 50 discs to play GT5 then I bloody would!

Come on guy's. Sad

EDIT: To be honest, I see it as a positive - it just means that the game is bigger.
Mark240473 on 4 Dec '09
"Or me, I hope the first disc ends on a cliffhanger so then you can rush out, put the kettle on, recoup your nerves, have a dump and then get straight back into part 2. "


LOL!! Laughing brilliant, me too.
At least bioware arent selling the discs individually eh. now thats the future. *sigh*

Although: I have kids, and the likelyhood of one of them getting hold of one of the discs, scratching it to Buggery and rendering it inoperable are quite likely. so i get to this Cliffhanger ending, go to swap the discs and get the old "This Disk is Dirty" message. disaster. It should come with an install option IMHO.
PCE Deadmeat on 4 Dec '09
I had no problems changing over the 3 discs while playing Final Fantasy VII, and i'll have no problem at all swapping over a disc for Mass Effect 2.
nottsville on 4 Dec '09
I had no problems changing over the 3 discs while playing Final Fantasy VII, and i'll have no problem at all swapping over a disc for Mass Effect 2.

Exactly these kids with their new fangled Blu-Ray are just being spoiled.
lonewolf2002 on 4 Dec '09
"Or me, I hope the first disc ends on a cliffhanger so then you can rush out, put the kettle on, recoup your nerves, have a dump and then get straight back into part 2. "


LOL!! Laughing brilliant, me too.
At least bioware arent selling the discs individually eh. now thats the future. *sigh*

Although: I have kids, and the likelyhood of one of them getting hold of one of the discs, scratching it to Buggery and rendering it inoperable are quite likely. so i get to this Cliffhanger ending, go to swap the discs and get the old "This Disk is Dirty" message. disaster. It should come with an install option IMHO.

You might want to consider investing in a small, portable safe where you could store your favourite games. Barring that a sufficiently elevated shelf might do the trick or simply a locked drawer. Smile
The_KFD_Case on 4 Dec '09
I personally wouldn't care if it came on 10 discs, it's still going to be bloomin brilliant.
flash501 on 4 Dec '09
I had no problems changing over the 3 discs while playing Final Fantasy VII, and i'll have no problem at all swapping over a disc for Mass Effect 2.

Exactly these kids with their new fangled Blu-Ray are just being spoiled.

While it may differ a little bit with consoles at the other end of the living room from where one is sitting, for me personally the epitome of laziness are those individuals who complain about having to place a DVD disc in their PC's disc drive and instead prefer DRM in the instances where it allows them to play the game without the disc (cracks can do the same if one wishes to go that route however); nevermind the poison it introduces in to their PC system and the limit it places on their liberties. My more emotional side feels that such individuals should perhaps not be allowed to go online. "Basic internet access test: Is, or is it not, too much effort to insert a disc in to a drive that is located within arm's reach of you in order to access the software content? Think carefully now"... Laughing
The_KFD_Case on 4 Dec '09
2 discs worth of gaming perfection....Sounds good to me! Cool
YouGuysRock7 on 4 Dec '09

Exactly these kids with their new fangled Blu-Ray are just being spoiled.

It's not even the disc swapping that's the issue for some people. It's the noise from the 360's DVD drive. My 360 is an older model and sounds like hammer drill at times. Running the game from the HD is the only way to avoid it. If I can't install this it's a negative for me. Having to swap a disc once isn't a problem.
voodoo341 on 4 Dec '09
This says to me that ME2 is going to be a bigger Game than the first one!

No complaints about swapping one disc from me then Very Happy .

Agreed. More awesome epicness! Very Happy
Black Mantis on 4 Dec '09
But it's pretty much a certainty that you will be able to install it and run it off one disc. 95% of 360 games can be installed to the HDD and all the multidisc games i've ever done it with resulted in it only ever having to be run off a single disc.

Its a good idea to do it with open world games anyway, as 9/10 times they get a significant bonus to load times.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 4 Dec '09
I had no problems changing over the 3 discs while playing Final Fantasy VII, and i'll have no problem at all swapping over a disc for Mass Effect 2.

Exactly these kids with their new fangled Blu-Ray are just being spoiled.

While it may differ a little bit with consoles at the other end of the living room from where one is sitting, for me personally the epitome of laziness are those individuals who complain about having to place a DVD disc in their PC's disc drive and instead prefer DRM in the instances where it allows them to play the game without the disc (cracks can do the same if one wishes to go that route however); nevermind the poison it introduces in to their PC system and the limit it places on their liberties. My more emotional side feels that such individuals should perhaps not be allowed to go online. "Basic internet access test: Is, or is it not, too much effort to insert a disc in to a drive that is located within arm's reach of you in order to access the software content? Think carefully now"... Laughing

DRM has really scarred you hasn't it? Razz

Seriously though half the reason I got out of PC gaming was due to draconian anti-piracy measures that only hurt legit gamers (the other half is my severely under powered rig). Very Happy
lonewolf2002 on 4 Dec '09

Exactly these kids with their new fangled Blu-Ray are just being spoiled.

It's not even the disc swapping that's the issue for some people. It's the noise from the 360's DVD drive. My 360 is an older model and sounds like hammer drill at times. Running the game from the HD is the only way to avoid it. If I can't install this it's a negative for me. Having to swap a disc once isn't a problem.

Granted I have a more recent model of the Xbox 360 and while it is far from silent, it is far from distracting once the game begins (at least for me). Besides, simply turning up the volume on the TV or the surround sound system easily drowns out any background noise from the console.
The_KFD_Case on 4 Dec '09

Exactly these kids with their new fangled Blu-Ray are just being spoiled.

It's not even the disc swapping that's the issue for some people. It's the noise from the 360's DVD drive. My 360 is an older model and sounds like hammer drill at times. Running the game from the HD is the only way to avoid it. If I can't install this it's a negative for me. Having to swap a disc once isn't a problem.

Well it was a jestful comment really plus although as I said befoe it makes it sound like the option to install is not there maybe he was talking about people with cores/arcades and the feature to install will be intact. Until it gets reviewed released I waould assume the option to install would be there as it is a dashboard feature not a game disc one.
lonewolf2002 on 4 Dec '09
I had no problems changing over the 3 discs while playing Final Fantasy VII, and i'll have no problem at all swapping over a disc for Mass Effect 2.

Exactly these kids with their new fangled Blu-Ray are just being spoiled.

While it may differ a little bit with consoles at the other end of the living room from where one is sitting, for me personally the epitome of laziness are those individuals who complain about having to place a DVD disc in their PC's disc drive and instead prefer DRM in the instances where it allows them to play the game without the disc (cracks can do the same if one wishes to go that route however); nevermind the poison it introduces in to their PC system and the limit it places on their liberties. My more emotional side feels that such individuals should perhaps not be allowed to go online. "Basic internet access test: Is, or is it not, too much effort to insert a disc in to a drive that is located within arm's reach of you in order to access the software content? Think carefully now"... Laughing

DRM has really scarred you hasn't it? Razz

Seriously though half the reason I got out of PC gaming was due to draconian anti-piracy measures that only hurt legit gamers (the other half is my severely under powered rig). Very Happy

DRM is vile, putrid and a bane upon mankind! Evil or Very Mad May the carpet baggers that created it come to suffer unspeakable horrors! Twisted Evil I have indeed been scarred by DRM and learned the lesson the hard way. It has also served to turn me in to a tireless defender of consumer rights and a ferocious crusader against those whom would use it to subvert the existing trade practices and rights of other people while offering an ineffectual anti-piracy solution that only seems to truly harm the paying customer while offering nothing substantial of value for the consumer in return. That and it leads to the uncomfortable possibility of increased micro control of people's computer habits. I'd be wary enough of a legitimate government authority trying to do that, and the chances of me accepting such overtures from privately run companies that have zero accountability to the public are about as good as those of a paper dog successfully chasing an asbestos cat through Hell.

I do like the ease of use that comes with my Xbox 360, yet I'm not going to abandon my PC yet, if ever. I find that I prefer playing certain genres of games on one platform over the other. Smile
The_KFD_Case on 4 Dec '09

Exactly these kids with their new fangled Blu-Ray are just being spoiled.

It's not even the disc swapping that's the issue for some people. It's the noise from the 360's DVD drive. My 360 is an older model and sounds like hammer drill at times. Running the game from the HD is the only way to avoid it. If I can't install this it's a negative for me. Having to swap a disc once isn't a problem.

Granted I have a more recent model of the Xbox 360 and while it is far from silent, it is far from distracting once the game begins (at least for me). Besides, simply turning up the volume on the TV or the surround sound system easily drowns out any background noise from the console.

I use my PC surround headphones on my consoles as I have a control box with optical in (lucky me) so the noise is not an issue. Agree on the noise of older models though bloody terrible I had to sell my old one a few months back (not due to the noise), will be getting an Elite very soon.
lonewolf2002 on 4 Dec '09

Exactly these kids with their new fangled Blu-Ray are just being spoiled.

It's not even the disc swapping that's the issue for some people. It's the noise from the 360's DVD drive. My 360 is an older model and sounds like hammer drill at times. Running the game from the HD is the only way to avoid it. If I can't install this it's a negative for me. Having to swap a disc once isn't a problem.

Granted I have a more recent model of the Xbox 360 and while it is far from silent, it is far from distracting once the game begins (at least for me). Besides, simply turning up the volume on the TV or the surround sound system easily drowns out any background noise from the console.

I use my PC surround headphones on my consoles as I have a control box with optical in (lucky me) so the noise is not an issue. Agree on the noise of older models though bloody terrible I had to sell my old one a few months back (not due to the noise), will be getting an Elite very soon.

Sounds like another decent solution. I adore my surround sound system. I have yet to even come close to testing its full power because of my proximity to neighbours whom may not exactly share my enthusiasm at the moment of testing. Laughing
The_KFD_Case on 4 Dec '09
I had no problems changing over the 3 discs while playing Final Fantasy VII, and i'll have no problem at all swapping over a disc for Mass Effect 2.

Exactly these kids with their new fangled Blu-Ray are just being spoiled.

While it may differ a little bit with consoles at the other end of the living room from where one is sitting, for me personally the epitome of laziness are those individuals who complain about having to place a DVD disc in their PC's disc drive and instead prefer DRM in the instances where it allows them to play the game without the disc (cracks can do the same if one wishes to go that route however); nevermind the poison it introduces in to their PC system and the limit it places on their liberties. My more emotional side feels that such individuals should perhaps not be allowed to go online. "Basic internet access test: Is, or is it not, too much effort to insert a disc in to a drive that is located within arm's reach of you in order to access the software content? Think carefully now"... Laughing

DRM has really scarred you hasn't it? Razz

Seriously though half the reason I got out of PC gaming was due to draconian anti-piracy measures that only hurt legit gamers (the other half is my severely under powered rig). Very Happy

DRM is vile, putrid and a bane upon mankind! Evil or Very Mad May the carpet baggers that created it come to suffer unspeakable horrors! Twisted Evil I have indeed been scarred by DRM and learned the lesson the hard way. It has also served to turn me in to a tireless defender of consumer rights and a ferocious crusader against those whom would use it to subvert the existing trade practices and rights of other people while offering an ineffectual anti-piracy solution that only seems to truly harm the paying customer.

I do like the ease of use that comes with my Xbox 360, yet I'm not going to abandon my PC yet, if ever. I find that I prefer playing certain genres of games on one platform over the other. Smile

I think once I get more flush in the funds dept I will upgrade my PC and possibly game on it more (I do play WoW atm though). Also a bloody good opening to the post, maybe I should start calling you V LaughingWink
lonewolf2002 on 4 Dec '09
I had no problems changing over the 3 discs while playing Final Fantasy VII, and i'll have no problem at all swapping over a disc for Mass Effect 2.

Exactly these kids with their new fangled Blu-Ray are just being spoiled.

While it may differ a little bit with consoles at the other end of the living room from where one is sitting, for me personally the epitome of laziness are those individuals who complain about having to place a DVD disc in their PC's disc drive and instead prefer DRM in the instances where it allows them to play the game without the disc (cracks can do the same if one wishes to go that route however); nevermind the poison it introduces in to their PC system and the limit it places on their liberties. My more emotional side feels that such individuals should perhaps not be allowed to go online. "Basic internet access test: Is, or is it not, too much effort to insert a disc in to a drive that is located within arm's reach of you in order to access the software content? Think carefully now"... Laughing

DRM has really scarred you hasn't it? Razz

Seriously though half the reason I got out of PC gaming was due to draconian anti-piracy measures that only hurt legit gamers (the other half is my severely under powered rig). Very Happy

DRM is vile, putrid and a bane upon mankind! Evil or Very Mad May the carpet baggers that created it come to suffer unspeakable horrors! Twisted Evil I have indeed been scarred by DRM and learned the lesson the hard way. It has also served to turn me in to a tireless defender of consumer rights and a ferocious crusader against those whom would use it to subvert the existing trade practices and rights of other people while offering an ineffectual anti-piracy solution that only seems to truly harm the paying customer.

I do like the ease of use that comes with my Xbox 360, yet I'm not going to abandon my PC yet, if ever. I find that I prefer playing certain genres of games on one platform over the other. Smile

I think once I get more flush in the funds dept I will upgrade my PC and possibly game on it more (I do play WoW atm though). Also a bloody good opening to the post, maybe I should start calling you V LaughingWink

Why thank you! I aim to please. WinkLaughing
The_KFD_Case on 4 Dec '09

Exactly these kids with their new fangled Blu-Ray are just being spoiled.

It's not even the disc swapping that's the issue for some people. It's the noise from the 360's DVD drive. My 360 is an older model and sounds like hammer drill at times. Running the game from the HD is the only way to avoid it. If I can't install this it's a negative for me. Having to swap a disc once isn't a problem.

What they likely mean is that you can't install the second disc so that it flows seamlessly (which is odd, because you do that with Forza 3 - although that is with just a bunch of non-associative assets).

I very much doubt you won't be able to install both discs to the HDD, put the appropriate disc in and launch it from the dashboard.

On a side note, my newer 360 is a hell of an improvement in the sound department. Pulling my old one apart to fix the RROD showed me that the DVD drive isn't actually that noisy - the fans just speed up when it's in use.
altitude2k on 4 Dec '09
Hmmm?? Bluray??
Beetle Bum on 4 Dec '09

Exactly these kids with their new fangled Blu-Ray are just being spoiled.

It's not even the disc swapping that's the issue for some people. It's the noise from the 360's DVD drive. My 360 is an older model and sounds like hammer drill at times. Running the game from the HD is the only way to avoid it. If I can't install this it's a negative for me. Having to swap a disc once isn't a problem.

Granted I have a more recent model of the Xbox 360 and while it is far from silent, it is far from distracting once the game begins (at least for me). Besides, simply turning up the volume on the TV or the surround sound system easily drowns out any background noise from the console.

I use my PC surround headphones on my consoles as I have a control box with optical in (lucky me) so the noise is not an issue. Agree on the noise of older models though bloody terrible I had to sell my old one a few months back (not due to the noise), will be getting an Elite very soon.

Sounds like another decent solution. I adore my surround sound system. I have yet to even come close to testing its full power because of my proximity to neighbours whom may not exactly share my enthusiasm at the moment of testing. Laughing

Yeah someone I work with a surround set-up that he says makes Modern Warfare sound like a real battle, lucky his best mate is moving into the flat below him so the noise shouldnt be an issue.

When they were available I grabbed 2 sets of Speed link Medussa headsets with analogue control box for 60 notes (a veritable bargain) and then had to purchase a separate control box for the consoles optical output (a sharkoon job with yet another set of phones in) and the best part is both control boxes have the same headphone sockets so can mix and match if headphones get broken etc.
lonewolf2002 on 4 Dec '09
Only 2 disks? Pah! Monkey Island 2 on Amiga had about 10 and you had to swap them back and forth.

Kids today, blah, blah
Brian Bloodaxe on 4 Dec '09

Exactly these kids with their new fangled Blu-Ray are just being spoiled.

It's not even the disc swapping that's the issue for some people. It's the noise from the 360's DVD drive. My 360 is an older model and sounds like hammer drill at times. Running the game from the HD is the only way to avoid it. If I can't install this it's a negative for me. Having to swap a disc once isn't a problem.

Granted I have a more recent model of the Xbox 360 and while it is far from silent, it is far from distracting once the game begins (at least for me). Besides, simply turning up the volume on the TV or the surround sound system easily drowns out any background noise from the console.

I use my PC surround headphones on my consoles as I have a control box with optical in (lucky me) so the noise is not an issue. Agree on the noise of older models though bloody terrible I had to sell my old one a few months back (not due to the noise), will be getting an Elite very soon.

Sounds like another decent solution. I adore my surround sound system. I have yet to even come close to testing its full power because of my proximity to neighbours whom may not exactly share my enthusiasm at the moment of testing. Laughing

Yeah someone I work with a surround set-up that he says makes Modern Warfare sound like a real battle, lucky his best mate is moving into the flat below him so the noise shouldnt be an issue.

When they were available I grabbed 2 sets of Speed link Medussa headsets with analogue control box for 60 notes (a veritable bargain) and then had to purchase a separate control box for the consoles optical output (a sharkoon job with yet another set of phones in) and the best part is both control boxes have the same headphone sockets so can mix and match if headphones get broken etc.

That's a bargain indeed! Someday...someday I shall get to releash the unrestrained POWER of my surround sound system! Mwahahahaha! Ahem!

Speaking of headphones I have been pleasantly surprised at just how good Creative's Fata1ity gaming headphones are in regards to stereo sound and emulating true surround sound. They're quite comfortable for long periods of time as well which has not been the case with any of the previous cheapo headsets I've used in the past. Playing a game with your ears throbbing in angry red, burning pain is hardly conducive to gameplay immersion.
The_KFD_Case on 4 Dec '09
Always bet on BioWare!


...when it comes to multiple discs
*cough*Baldur's Gate*cough*
Vyvrtka on 4 Dec '09

Exactly these kids with their new fangled Blu-Ray are just being spoiled.

It's not even the disc swapping that's the issue for some people. It's the noise from the 360's DVD drive. My 360 is an older model and sounds like hammer drill at times. Running the game from the HD is the only way to avoid it. If I can't install this it's a negative for me. Having to swap a disc once isn't a problem.

Granted I have a more recent model of the Xbox 360 and while it is far from silent, it is far from distracting once the game begins (at least for me). Besides, simply turning up the volume on the TV or the surround sound system easily drowns out any background noise from the console.

I use my PC surround headphones on my consoles as I have a control box with optical in (lucky me) so the noise is not an issue. Agree on the noise of older models though bloody terrible I had to sell my old one a few months back (not due to the noise), will be getting an Elite very soon.

Sounds like another decent solution. I adore my surround sound system. I have yet to even come close to testing its full power because of my proximity to neighbours whom may not exactly share my enthusiasm at the moment of testing. Laughing

Yeah someone I work with a surround set-up that he says makes Modern Warfare sound like a real battle, lucky his best mate is moving into the flat below him so the noise shouldnt be an issue.

When they were available I grabbed 2 sets of Speed link Medussa headsets with analogue control box for 60 notes (a veritable bargain) and then had to purchase a separate control box for the consoles optical output (a sharkoon job with yet another set of phones in) and the best part is both control boxes have the same headphone sockets so can mix and match if headphones get broken etc.

That's a bargain indeed! Someday...someday I shall get to releash the unrestrained POWER of my surround sound system! Mwahahahaha! Ahem!

Speaking of headphones I have been pleasantly surprised at just how good Creative's Fata1ity gaming headphones are in regards to stereo sound and emulating true surround sound. They're quite comfortable for long periods of time as well which has not been the case with any of the previous cheapo headsets I've used in the past. Playing a game with your ears throbbing in angry red, burning pain is hardly conducive to gameplay immersion.

Yeah someone I know bought those Fatality sets and was impressed with them. The speed links are pretty comfortable as long as positioned correctly I can do an 8 hour sesh with no problems. Thinking on it they must be about 4-5 years old now lol still going strong.
lonewolf2002 on 4 Dec '09
Quite a lot of pc games have 2 discs these days.

Also, i wonder what will happen when you switch disk, will you still be able to visit the older clusters and do missions there ? or is it a point in the game where you cannot do the older misssions ?

GTA4(pc) came with 2 disc , no big deal here , just install from both and use the 1st disc to play ...............


"3 - The PC version is a standard install. You install the information from both discs and then play with 1 disc in the drive. No swapping."
h3r3tic666 on 4 Dec '09
I would rather have two discs if it means we get the whole game with extras instead of chopping bits out to fit on one dvd "I'm looking at you UT3" Im not sure if that was the only reason 360 version did not inc. the map editor, sure Microsoft had something to do with it aswell but a good example of a developer struggling to get the whole game on one dvd, think developers should look at perhaps putting mp maps, game modes ect on the 2nd disc much like Bungie did with HaloSurprisedDST.
NEOnburN9 on 4 Dec '09
Any moaners in here about changing a disc? I bet there are all over the internet lol bloody lazy sh*ts! changing a disc like someone pointed out is actually a healthy thing, get blood back in your legs, go for a dump and put the kettle on, even get some fresh air...mint! I remember the days of disc change, with FF7, commandos 2 on the pc, I had a limited edition version which had like 5 discs instead of 3 lol, mental!
bunneyo on 4 Dec '09
a disc swap in a game like this that is only going to happen once on each playthrough is no problem, and if it means more variety then i'm all for it, when every base on every planet, human or alien, has the exact same layout it kind of spoils the immersion, and for god sake, give those people on the citadel some different clothes to wear, everybody seems to wear the same thing, once again humanoid alien or human.
zelamy on 4 Dec '09
Hah! I laugh at all of you!

I shall pre-load it from Steam, and then never EVER have to swap disks.

Twisted Evil
microhenry on 4 Dec '09
Hah! I laugh at all of you!

I shall pre-load it from Steam, and then never EVER have to swap disks.

Twisted Evil

Enjoy being enslaved to Valve/Steam at full price (if a title is sold at a fraction of it's intial RRP I can live with it, barely) and having to use one third more HDD space than the PC retail version. Wink Besides, I like have new, shiny cases.
The_KFD_Case on 4 Dec '09
mass effect 2 is going to be insane Smile hope there will be more back story in where the reapers came from, singually the must have game of 2010, better than anything the paedostation has to offer
dorian2011 on 4 Dec '09
mass effect 2 is going to be insane Smile hope there will be more back story in where the reapers came from, singually the must have game of 2010, better than anything the paedostation has to offer

Dorian, you really should be a little worried about your constant insistence that people are paedophiles, and that the PSN is the sole reside of all paedophiles. You seem a little too obsessed with it…it’s also one of the worst things you could call someone, not everyone who loves Playstation loves a bit of noncing.
Conkers on 4 Dec '09
@conkers yes i see your point, but when your little sister gets paedoed on two serperate occasions you would feel the same, dam i dont know what would have happnd if she hadnt smelled a rat and took a friend when she went to meet him, then the next time some guy was sending dirty messages and jusdging from his psn i.d he was 44, im not saying that everyone who owns one is a paedo because i owned one for 3 hours till i traded it in, its just that there is alot of them and sony shud incorporate a banning sysytem or a on there paid sub so they cant add you again on a differnt id
dorian2011 on 4 Dec '09
Great news.
I don't mind disc swapping having done so with the JRPG's for 360 and I'd much rather this than they cut back on content.
As for the people saying release it on PS3 on a Blu-ray, well then the game will feature even longer loading times due to the slow read rate of the Blu-ray drive, so you can't win either way.
Anyways, roll on Mass Effect 2. Gonna be epic!
vulcanraven01 on 4 Dec '09
i'm actually quite pleased as it gives me confidence that it will be a game full of content, i think i racked up a fair few hours on me1 so if this is bigger i will be well pleased.

certainly the game i look forward to the most out of any game due for release or on my wish list (hl3, system shock 3 to name a couple Crying or Very sad )
pishers on 4 Dec '09
when your little sister gets paedoed on two serperate occasions you would feel the same

There's something not quite right with term 'Paedoed'. If you mean she was groomed by someone then shame on her for going to meet a total stranger. It's not like these stories aren't in the press and educated through schools enough.
FiltyMonkey on 4 Dec '09
i know but give her a break she was only 13 and the guy sent her picture of a 14 year old boy but she was smart enough to take a friend with her and that man is now in jail Smile it was in the local paper and a tiny bit in the sun lol. i think sony shud do something about peoples security a free network is not a good thing when people with bad intentions can keep adding you under different names
dorian2011 on 4 Dec '09
Mass Effect > No Mass Effect.

Just install both discs. Problem solved.

Rolling Eyes

4 - The Xbox 360 does not have an install and does require disc swapping during play.

Monkey is right, on 360, games that come on multiple discs (like Blue Dragon) can be installed in their entirety, then played using just one disc. The man from BioWare is saying there's no mandatory install disc, because then loads of 360 owners wouldn't be able to play it. An install would probably be wise anyway, as the first game runs much better from the HDD than it does from disc (constant pauses for loading, for example).

And yes, you should be able to revisit old areas, like in Final Fantasy VII - IX on PS1. All the extra data is needed for speech and cutscenes. This leaves more disc space free for all the textures, etc, on both discs.

Although the way it has been worded does make it sound like swapping discs is mandatory. Which is odd.

Better not be. My disc drive makes an awful racket when I'm running a game without installing it. Sadly I currently don't have the drive space to install more than one disc at a time. Still waiting for the transfer cable to arrive Evil or Very Mad
johnafirth on 4 Dec '09
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