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Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:37:55 PM SHOCKING JOKE INDEED.WHAT LAWS MUST BE CHANGED TO FIGHT CRIME?THIS IS DAY DREAMING.CAN YOU CHANGE LAWS TO FIGHT CRIME WHILST AT THE SAME TIME CALLING THOSE INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF CRIME FIGHTING NAMES, LIKE , COUNTER-REVOLUTIONERY, ETC. HOW CAN YOU FIGHT CRIME WHEN HALF OF YOUR MEMBERS ARE BUSY BRIBING CRIME FIGHTING INSTITUTIONS. HOW CAN YOU FIGHT CRIME WHEN THOSE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO MAKE LAWS ARE THEMSELVES RUNNING AWAY FROM COURTS, YOU INCLUDED.DREAMS!!!!!

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:37:26 PM Zuma saying "Change laws" makes me nervous. Especially with Shabir being freed today. But yes, someone mentioned, its merely electioneering speak. Im surprised he didn't say he's going to scrap BEE for the Sandton bunch.

M&R; blames cartel on 'ignorance' 2009/03/03 04:36:38 PM "Bruce said: "One of the challenges that we face in the competition law is that this has got nothing to do with what decisions might or might not be made at board level". --- Mr Bruce, I then suggest that your board start taking legislation into account when making decisions. It’s your responsibility (but I understand that what is for some a “way of life” presents a real challenge to others)

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:36:08 PM LoL this guy must be joking, right!

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:33:56 PM zuma, you are still a corrupt clueless moron. i hope you choke on the tea your probably having with shabir tomorrow.

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:33:46 PM I would tend to agree with him. I sure as heck won't vote for him to be the man to do it, but he is absolutely correct... our understanding of crime and it's relevant punishments are completely obscure. In fact, he's the prime example of how screwed our system is. Murderers, rapists and corrupt politicians get away with minimal punishment while kids are locked up with hardened criminals for smoking pot. PS: The other reason people don't come here is because our government is a joke!

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:33:33 PM JZ obviously didn't read Jeremy Clarkson's article of yesterday!

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:32:28 PM Here's a suggestion. Lets just scrap every mention of crime, make everything and anything legal, then we won't require the entire justice dept, NPA, correctional services, police etc. We'll save billions and no-one will need to worry about accepting bribes, pulling strings for cadres, awarding tenders to friends and comrades, to list just a few advantages.

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:32:14 PM Hey zuma, tell me why a murdering taxi driver, who was previously charged with not having a drivers lisence and only fined R 250, was let loose on a bail of R 1000 and is back driving his taxi !!! If I shoot someone, will the court give back my pistol to me to keep until I appear again??? You are one lying piece of work.

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:27:10 PM crime ? - The head of police, Selebi is the biggest baddest egg of them all - little chance of reducing crime when police are riddled with criminals

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:26:37 PM You must love the irony…

Recession worsens for SA firms 2009/03/03 04:24:11 PM Is the barometers also based on Stats SA, Mike? Did you not say that the stats on unemployement were wrong? So if the stats is wrong so why not the barometers or is Sake the new moses? Sorry JM already allocated it to JZ. Where is the response of actual people that can make a difference and not sideline referees. What about barometers for ACTUAL recession in the households of the middleclass taxpayers, the real rainbow that keeps this country going that is told to save but have less than 5% left

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:23:17 PM This is just pre election talks people. He just say what the people want to hear.

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:21:47 PM Hope he becomes president: I then do not have to pay tax, can have many wives and children which the state will look after... you guys just do not understand Zuma's definition of crime: crime is something illegal that you do AND you get caught. His plight is that people should become more wise (like him) in the cover ups. And all his candidates are living examples of how.

Toyota asking for govt loan 2009/03/03 04:21:24 PM The exposure in the manufacturing sector, especially the motor industry, is huge. The difference between Toyota and the rest appears 2 months. This will catch up with everyone...

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:21:15 PM JZ talking about crime and how the LAW should tackle crime is like asking a 5 year old to look after your sweets while you go out. He has no right to talk about how to change the laws, considering how corrupt he is!

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:19:23 PM The only solution is to bring back the scorpions and rehabilitate the former security branch members to assist in dealing with criminals the way they dealt with "political crimes"-they were good investigators,targerting the wrong people(politicians),bring them back to target criminals and see what will happen to the crime statistics.

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:18:30 PM The only change showerhead wants is as follows: We are all equal, but some are more equal than others. Pigs to the trough!

M&R; blames cartel on 'ignorance' 2009/03/03 04:17:29 PM Lets just order as much pavers we can for our homes and not pay for them as we have paid for them over the last 34 years Brian Bruce ..hope you stay locked up in your mansion in shame..So what about Heat Exchanges Robersham in the early 90's Totally criminal.. The SA public dont need people like you...you should immigrate

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:15:44 PM He who carries the sword has the responsibilty to use it... I believe gov'ments sword bearer was hi-jacked on his way to work. Besides Mr Zuma and his tjommies will only amend the laws applicable and addressing their personal line of criminality, thus enabling them to plunder to their hearts' content. Lady Justice's virginity is under fire here. Seeing that the ANC and the justice dept has been in bed for so long, that constitutes spousal abuse, right?

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:15:13 PM Yes, lets just talk about crime and - review the system - again and talk some more. Pfft, no hope in the ANC. And tourism? A thorn in the side of ONLY tourism?! You're crazy Zuma. Tell that to the families of the 49 people murdered - TODAY! and then to the families of the 49 murdered - TOMORROW!!! not even going to mention rape.

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:15:02 PM The ANC leads by example, what do they expect their "comrades" to do? Only once they have got rid of each and every corrupt ANC member (but then there will be no more ANC), will things change

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:13:37 PM Talk about Irony - The kingpin of crime himself denouncing criminal activity!

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:11:53 PM HAHA Jacob made a funny

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:09:47 PM Just bring back the death penalty.

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:07:53 PM Say the wolf in sheep clothes.

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 04:07:49 PM I bought a new car last week.. got a awesome price - the deals are starting to come through. Just a note - when you compare our car prices to say US car prices - they all quote their prices EX GST you have to add your 13-14% on that.. and off course the fact that your car's in america , and not in your garage at home

Zuma: Change law to fight crime 2009/03/03 04:06:14 PM Bring back the death penalty!!

SA Tourism chief quits 2009/03/03 03:55:44 PM Something is not smelling right here!! we will probably get the news on Sunday from comrade JZ

Govt still sees growth in '09 2009/03/03 03:50:27 PM Sunny, The 'growth' will come from construction and government spending.

M&R; blames cartel on 'ignorance' 2009/03/03 03:47:17 PM ignorance = cartel? More like criminal greed = cartel. Clearly you need a little more education yourself - say 3 to 5 in the klink.

SA Tourism chief quits 2009/03/03 03:44:10 PM ONE MORE TO COPE

SA Tourism chief quits 2009/03/03 03:43:25 PM Does this mean we can stop counting the Zimbabwean refugees as tourists?

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 03:42:41 PM Discounts are really needed.. In parts of Europe there are dealer/manufatures that offer buy 2 get 1 free deals. They have stock piles of it everywhere and Peugeot, have just closed their main manufacturing plants in Europe due to slow demand.. Watch this space.. Deals will eventually be on its way..

De Beers' Cullinan mine for sale 2009/03/03 03:30:34 PM DEAR SIR/MADAM MY PARTNER IN CHINA IS LOOKING FOR A COAL MINE TO BUY,PLEASE CONTACT ME FOR FURTHER DETAILS. BEST REGARDS; OUBAAS 083 768 0794

Cartel firms get off 'scot-free' 2009/03/03 03:22:44 PM i am writing to the QS and Engineer professional bodies for them to get members to recover monies - let's see the response!

M&R; blames cartel on 'ignorance' 2009/03/03 03:22:24 PM Brian Bruce, after 34 years of criminal activity, is this the best you can offer: "educate staff members about consequences of their actions, after it was exposed for its involvement in a 34-year long cartel". Do you take the public as morons? Give back what they have taken due to criminal activities.Besides, what consequences? They should be prosecuted. You want to tell me that the directors were unaware. Sorry, I just don't believe you. The long and the short is that your company has admitted

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/03 03:16:01 PM Kobus, You made my day. Is that not what life is about. We all miss the boat by chasing money and material things. God bless

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/03 03:14:28 PM Yup ... more examples of corporate greed ... lets see how soon the rats come out of the woodwork here at Sappi

Recession worsens for SA firms 2009/03/03 02:59:43 PM What recession ? We are in a upswing if you believe the guvmunt!

Recession worsens for SA firms 2009/03/03 02:58:03 PM I would have thought KZN was one of the leading provinces. Schüssler's survey obviously does not work for Kwa-Zulu Natal. His stuff generally does not work anywhere anyway.

'No truth' in OM's Nedbank sale 2009/03/03 02:50:45 PM @ Old Mutual Employee. In my recent dealings with the local office I am incensed at the manner in which they deal with client queries. Their attitude is no better than what one encounters when dealing with a government department. If they do not like a question they simply ignore it and refuse to answer

'No truth' in OM's Nedbank sale 2009/03/03 02:44:41 PM Actually, the SA business is very well run and I think the young black IT retrenchments you might be referring to were outsourced contractors that were replaced with more competent ones (regardless of colour). Your bitterness is sad dude.

R14.4bn needed to train artisans 2009/03/03 02:21:10 PM NONE

Recession worsens for SA firms 2009/03/03 02:18:23 PM No so bad cause Stats says employment is up!!!!

'Learning from your mistakes' 2009/03/03 02:17:27 PM Vinny Lingham. OK.

'Learning from your mistakes' 2009/03/03 02:13:13 PM So what's his name?

Power delays cost SA R2bn/year 2009/03/03 02:04:29 PM The concept of REDS ia sound. It was planned way back in the late 90's when the govt realised that the grossly incompetent councils could not be entrusted with electricity distribution. However, many councils delayed it by refusing to cooperate. Why this was tolerated defies belief, but it was. Secondly, the REDS have to be staffed and managed by competent people. The ANC just doesnt have such people! They could have solved it by using white staff, but dont want to. Sans the staff it will fail

'No truth' in OM's Nedbank sale 2009/03/03 02:00:00 PM Numerrous retrenchments over the last few years (including a number of young black black IT staff), re-appointing of middle aged white staff, hundreds of middle aged white managers adding no value and waiting to retire as millionaires. What a poorly managed company and the plunging share price bears testimony to this. Proudly South African ?????

OM offloading Nedbank stake? 2009/03/03 01:58:19 PM To draw R2000 from Nedbank ATM cost you R22-00 To draw R2000 from Standard ATM cost you R23.50 To Draw R2000 from FNB bank ATM cost you R10.00 To Draw R2000 from ABSA ATM costs you R21.00 FNB IS DEFINATEY THE ROUTE TO GO

M&R; blames cartel on 'ignorance' 2009/03/03 01:56:53 PM so let the client's begin collecting what's been stolen; so let's cut out the zumatology and prosecute the private sector including sasol's skollies.

Govt still sees growth in '09 2009/03/03 01:39:42 PM I wonder what the learned minister is smoking? With a wonderful deficit, pitiful forex reserves (of which only 9% held in Gold), Wholesale destruction of scientific farming methods, net importers of food... clearly it's only the gravy train still in growth mode? What an embarrassment when a 'leader' is so out of touch with reality

Money market: stay or go? 2009/03/03 01:39:00 PM What nonsense. By reading between the lines you are saying that if you are a short-term investor then the JSE is a no-go. We all know that. However, if you are a long-term investor you may eventually get good returns on the JSE. Why put your money there whilst waiting for the long-term. Ideally you at least want some short-term growth especially when Div payments are down and in some co's they have dried up. All the asset managers are saying there is value yet few are buying and cash is king.

Bleak outlook for house market 2009/03/03 01:29:32 PM 400% house price inflation, 1 decade versus inflation adjusted personal income flat, at best, up to 30% negative for most people. Forget the 500k median, like all averages it's useless. You want a median? Look at demographics, sectors. Take middle to upper middle class, earns 300k/500k per annum. Average middle income 3 bed cluster = 1.2mn. Can they afford it? Go on, pull the other one! Even Mr Loos, to my utter amazement, admitted on radio yesterday that property is in trouble.

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 01:25:03 PM @Joe. Costs are not increasing for Car Manufacturers. Steel, Aluminium, Rubber, Copper, Fuel, Lubricants and Shipping are all decreasing in price. Under which rock do you live oke?

'No truth' in OM's Nedbank sale 2009/03/03 01:17:41 PM Funny how a British hedge fund said it was shorting Old Mutual and wow a rumour to sell Neds come from the uk over the weekend, FSB should investigate

Power delays cost SA R2bn/year 2009/03/03 01:17:35 PM RED's? Dead in the water me thinks. Just how in God's name does these oaks want to save us? Eskom as one cannot even operate a 100%! How in hell are six groups going to opperate? Communistic teachings, devide and concour, Uhm, sorry, destroy. A country without any future because there are too many chiefs and no indians to do the work. Try and take responsibilty for a change and make the right choices for the right reasons, not the other way around. PLEASE!!!!!

SA auditors report suspicions 2009/03/03 01:11:46 PM And what about the likes of Edwafin , who promised so much.I believe there is trouble the too. Smoke = Fire

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 01:10:00 PM "Naamsa said that any improvement in the domestic environment remains dependent on a revival of consumer expenditure, aggressive interest rate reductions and fiscal stimulation." What is the motor industry doing to try improve their sales?? Well they increased their prices. Fired staff to cut costs. thinking of asking government for a bail out! Greedy Fat Cats Consumer expenditure will improve if these guys start dropping their prices.Simple economics low demand should be a lower price.

Racec: pay up 2009/03/03 01:09:56 PM It takes concerted action but, if all tenderers insist, there is no way out for Transnet or anyone else. Even Maria Ramos would have to sign on the dotted line if no-one breaks ranks. Companies can learn a lot about concerted action from COSATU. What is the point of entering into a contract for work where profits will be eroded by late payment anyway.

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 01:05:58 PM The simple soultion is to postpone your purchase of a new vehicle. Soon or later,prices will have to fall.

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 01:05:01 PM Cars built here in SA are exported from SA, and sold overseas for half the price we are paying. I have no pity on our extremely greedy car industry. Protective import tariffs are no longer a requirement to protect an industry that is globally competitive. Its time we dropped them and pay what other global citizens pay for cars.

'No truth' in OM's Nedbank sale 2009/03/03 01:04:57 PM Indeed... When I first heard there was some speculation around Old Mutual, my first instinct was that they would list OMSA separately. HSBC just done a rights issue while SC just announced some pretty healthy results but no reference to Nedbank in there so assuming that the deal is probably not on the cards

'No truth' in OM's Nedbank sale 2009/03/03 12:59:22 PM The speculation was a little premature. The suitors were supposed to be HSBC and Standard Chartered. Well HSBC has no money they are currently involved with a rights issue and SC are not big in the retail sector so draw your own conclusions. I think OM should seriously look at unbundling out of the UK.

Surge in pass rate of black CAs 2009/03/03 12:58:46 PM White lectures, in other words the exclisve black class,or lecture halls are fed rubbish, they will write rubbish and therfore fail at CTA level. Before this CTA thing it was board exams, now whites dont have total control of the borad exams and marking they go down one level below CTA. The truth is SAICA should have played for time and wait until there are black CA's who are prepared to teach @ varsity level. When playing fields are levelled at varsity, level the playing fields at Board exam level. That way u would have taken care of dirty tricks.

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/03 12:53:58 PM cicero - would that have been at chip board level - with idiots like you no wonder the company flounders

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 12:47:20 PM What's wrong with car prices going up? Costs are increasing, salaries are going up. Do you want to work for the same or even a lower salary than last year? There are people working in the motor industry with the same expectations as all of us that has to pay bills which are going up. Come on, wake up, be realistic. Pay more for your new car which is more fancy than last year's model, let these guys also get a salry increase.

SA auditors report suspicions 2009/03/03 12:44:08 PM And so it begins... It's good to see that the teeth given to auditors by the APA and FAIS are being put to use. Being a director is not supposed to be a status symbol. Directors must realise the weight of their responsibility to shareholders.

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 12:42:27 PM I recently bought a new car for cash, no trade in (previous car was stolen). When I asked for a quote in Philwest VW Somerset West, the dealer added a R 2 250 + vat of 'handling fee' (as 'allowed by the NCA' even though I was paying cash), plus licensing and registration, and threw in a ridiculously low discount. Some dealers still don't give a damn'. I eventually bought a Toyota at a very competitive rate, no hidden cost. So I guess some dealers are not really battling after all.

Surge in pass rate of black CAs 2009/03/03 12:39:08 PM The 78% pass rate is highly nosensical and crab to say the least, What SAICA is not telling us is how many peoplem sat for CTA last year and how many passed, well black students, The thing is this CA thang has become so politicised. I.e Constiuition of people marking board exams has improved to include black people and the likes. Now that has happend black people are getting cut from CTA level. Because of this black white thing, blacks having special lectures (exclusive) and being taught by who?

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 12:37:50 PM @Rain..... I used to think property and cars was expensive and took up most of my salary....now it seems like property and medical aid take up the chunk........I pay bloody Discovery almost R4300 pm for my wife and I.....

Giant firms in Gautrain scandal 2009/03/03 12:33:32 PM JOSEPH MALULEKA: all so true & so familiar. In 1948 the Nationalist Party said to the English speaking SA business world " We will leave the Business to you, go for it. You leave the Politics & Blacks to us" And so it happened. A Devils Pact, & don't let any English speaker tell you otherwise!

Unpaid Pamodzi workers strike 2009/03/03 12:27:42 PM The press reports say they have been trying to secure a +R600million loan since 2007 and so far have been unsuccessful. Does this not give all potential investors the heads up that something serious wrong is happening with the company? Surely lower level staff must be paid first before directors get paid.... wonder if this happened here or if the fat cats at the top got paid on time regardless of the rest of the 12 thousand staff members?

Record SA trade deficit shocks 2009/03/03 12:22:50 PM BLIXUM: I take it you are pulling our legs!? Ever heard of a broker Posniak? Perhaps a little before your time. No matter. I DO NOT recommend paper gold. Quite useless as Chaos Inssurance, a brokers IOU is not what I want when we all go down the tubes. Not sure what U mean by "securities"? Hope it is not gold shares: the ANC is well on the way to stuffing up the mines, Mugarbage style.

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 12:22:42 PM @Rain, I agree with you on most points, however the dealers are not making things easier, they do not want to deal, discounts are few and far between, some are still stuck with the same attitude they had 2 years ago when people did not care what they got on their tradeins and it was either their way or the highway. Things were easier back than though, like easy credit, now people need to actually budget(good thing), with poor trade ins they are simply not going to buy new.

Racec: pay up 2009/03/03 12:19:47 PM Walter, yes, but one still has to get the customer to enter a contract to that effect. Easier said than done when the customer is the likes of Transnet with significant countervailing power - think Maria Ramos would have agreed to those terms!?

Surge in pass rate of black CAs 2009/03/03 12:15:53 PM Pack your bags and go, son. Just like our son did.Even in these tough times they love hardworking South Africans. But your own country does not need you as you have discovered - they love crime , faud corruption, 2nd class standards etc.

R70bn state tender under fire 2009/03/03 12:04:06 PM Shaik for minister of finance!!!!

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 12:02:27 PM The motor industry is the only industry that remedies low sales by puting up prices. But I think is was Brand Pretoruis that said when asked why prices of cars are so high, Because people buy them at these prices.

SA emigrants left in the lurch 2009/03/03 12:01:31 PM You know that much work is in progress to reduce the crime rate for 2010 & stop emmigration? How? :Forbid SAPS to report crime & best of all rewrite the Criminal Law definitions: Rape will be a misdemeanor & need 17 witnesses, same for robbery, burglery, & murder. Viola! crime down by 85%! Ra, Ra, ANC government. I AM NOT JOKING! Watch this space!

SA emigrants left in the lurch 2009/03/03 11:58:47 AM SHELLEY - Well said but the difference is Saffers are big enough to take it. Just read a long article in "The Times" of a UK family leaving wonderful, safe, clean etc,etc, New Zealand because they couldn't stand the BOREDOM! They are so dull; tell a joke today,they laugh next Thursday! KAREN - isn't Karen an unusual name for a person who is not a broad. Just asking.See my comment above on the future of SA crime wave.

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 11:56:44 AM 1. Depreciation is nothing new – is it? 2. The fancy stuff at car dealers was requested to be there by the customers - not for/by the people that work there. 3. Lowering prices can only work up to a point - will you sell something at a loss? 4. Please try to differentiate between dealerships and car manufacturers - there are subtle differences.

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 11:49:27 AM Lower your prices and sales will pick up!!! I want to buy a car and have the means to afford it but I will not bother paying an arm, a leg and a house for something that depreciates the moment you drive off the floor!!!

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 11:48:41 AM Some people do not have the ability to see things for what they are. Property and vehicles are the 2 biggest expenses for a household. Right? Assuming that these sectors are suffering from a decrease in household spending power - who is really suffering? The households!! Adding to the misery, is the downstream effect. If no vehicles are sold, parts suppliers, sub-suppliers and general workers will suffer = no job/income = less spending power for households = less vehicles/houses sold = spiral

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 11:47:08 AM You know when the party is over , all thats left is empty bottles and rubbish, the car dealers, manufactures have been feeding off the public's ego for many years, just look at the plush showrooms and "lifestyle Centers", it is b%$#s^%$t, at last the people strike back at the "Man", my 3 year old is going fine, just make sure you keep your service centers open for a long time

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 11:42:58 AM Ain't that the truth JP. Maybe managers in training should listen to that grasshopper and ant story about saving up for the "winter" till they get a clue. It's called reserves.

Absa hit by exec departures 2009/03/03 11:40:09 AM FELCON : Right on . ABSA is not the bank that really worries me right now. Do a bit of research on what I said. Look at my Comment on "Are my Deposits Gauranteed?" today. Cheers.

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 11:38:01 AM ......and the great deals on new cars are where to be found?

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 11:36:49 AM Another thing ... natural order of business, if you are not profitable and dont have capital to re-structure, you have succeeded in managing your business into the ground. YOU SHOULD FILE FOR LIQUIDATION.

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 11:36:03 AM Come one, a little 15% on the purchase price will solve this mess

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 11:35:34 AM Dear Sunny The problem is not Tito - the problem is grossly overpriced cars. What do you think would happen if interest rates are cut - you guessed right - the makers will just put up the prices even more - you will end up paying exactly the same repayments. This is the ONLY industry where supply and demand is ignored - demand crashes, so guess what - let's put up prices some more?

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 11:32:56 AM "I think the best thing to do is push prices up" ... say the rocket scientists thinking about how they are going to recover from this. How about the old school, value add at reasonable price methodology? You guys deserve this downturn!!!!!!

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 11:30:25 AM And Tito looks at these figures and sits on his backside and does nothing...

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 11:28:30 AM This is what you get when you increase prices when there is low demand and oversuppply.

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 11:27:14 AM This is exactly what this industry deserves, they ahve been ripping off the consumer/motorists for way too long now and riding on the gravy train of overpricing and price fixing........let them suffer the consequences......Import your own cars via the net its easy and a whole lot cheaper too.....DO NOT SUPPORT the LOCAL MOTOR MANUFACTURERS Yes and BYE BYE McCARTHY"S too

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 11:26:28 AM First we were getting 'm03r-ed' continually in the past with the 'holier than though attitude' of 'YOUR DEBT IS TOO HIGH, CONSUMERS BORROW TOO MUCH, WE NEED TO COOL DOWN SPENDING', etc etc. NOW that debt levels are down, etc etc, we being told - get loans, buy buy, viz Sunday's Sake Rapport as well - the guys are almost begging consumers to get into debt again. I say, do you actually know waht you are talkimg about? (Not this article, the ecomomists!) PB

Power delays cost SA R2bn/year 2009/03/03 11:20:59 AM Can't they do the same with water and sewage management, as the municipalities clearly cant cope with this.

R70bn state tender under fire 2009/03/03 11:20:40 AM What is wrong with dodgy tenders being allocated to spouses/family members?! That is how our corrupt government is operating and how all tenders are being allocated. Cosatu, nice try, but you are wasting your time. Mr. and Mrs. Skweyiya will probably, if they get convicted, spent max. 2days in prison before they put on a sick face and get personally freed by their partner in crime, Mr. Zuma.

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/03 11:19:31 AM RUSSEL & AJ you sound soooooo familiar?! You are everything that is wrong with SA: total intolerance. I explained why I took the opportunity to comment on Shaik. Do you read or was it read to you & you missed it ? Related? SASORUS: you may well have that insight but nobody else does. I was once very close to SAPPI at a Board level & I do not believe Moore O'Hara (MD) would never have countenanced the current shenanigans.

Surge in pass rate of black CAs 2009/03/03 11:16:04 AM "Surge", my foot!

Vehicle sales in free-fall 2009/03/03 11:14:45 AM Bye Bye Imperial

Surge in pass rate of black CAs 2009/03/03 11:14:41 AM SAICA is so much out of touch with reality, it is not even funny any more. Could have been funny, if it was not so sad! 200 students wrote QE2 (they do not mention the overall pass rate). Sehoole says 5300 CA's are needed. At 200 writing (not necessarily passing) per year, basic math suggests it would take in excess of 26 years to catch up!! One would think SAICA would also recognise this and start looking after CURRENT CA's, and not passively look on as IRBA kills these guys!!!!! Ah, maths!

Unemployment data 'fiction' 2009/03/03 11:13:14 AM I have to retrench 40% of my staff due to our economic decline and so are most of the businesses that we supply to. The decline in sales and in staff started from the last quarter of 2008 in our industry and, according to other articles, with the rest of South Africa. Shussler are welcome to explain the the unemployment rate decline to my staff.

Surge in pass rate of black CAs 2009/03/03 11:11:56 AM Amazing how we are immediately sceptical when it is announced that there is a huge increase in the number of Black CA's. This cynicism will countinue until we get rid of the insistance on promoting people because of their colour alone. Even the Black people that are genuinely entitled to their fruits will not be respected. Down with racism !!!

Calls for auto sector to downsize 2009/03/03 11:10:44 AM And where will these capacity reductions come from? Judging by the growing protectionist sentiments among European politicians, production at home is to be preserved at all costs. What then are the alternatives? Car factories in far away Africa must be in the cross hairs!

Racec: pay up 2009/03/03 11:07:54 AM The answer is to build penalties for late payment into contracts. This can be on an escalating basis so, if they are 30 days over due date, add your overdraft rate to the bill, 60 days costs them O/D rate plus 2.5% etc. See how quickly they pay up & smile, albeit with a touch of rictus!

Govt still sees growth in '09 2009/03/03 11:07:24 AM I have to retrench 40% of my staff due to the economic meltdown and this guy recons that we shall show growth??...? What am I missing? Why is sales in my business down then? Why does companies around me retrench people then? Come on, get realistic.

Weak rand floors Mustek 2009/03/03 11:02:57 AM This is a really, really badly-written piece of editorial. Not balanced at all. Did the journalist approach Mustek and ask them what their strategy was for the year ahead (surely they wouldn't have said it was only about "increasing prices")? What qualifies "Coronation Fund analyst, Siphamandla Shozi" to make statements like the company will never recover, etc? Why wasn't Mustek asked what it thought of this so-called "analyst's" opinion? Terrible. We need balalnced journalism, not this o

SA reeling from global crisis 2009/03/03 10:57:36 AM ERAGON: well said. You know that much work is in progress to reduce the crime rate for 2010 & stop emmigration? How? :Forbid SAPS to report crime & best of all rewrite the Criminal Law definitions: Rape will be a misdemeanor & need 17 witnesses, same for robbery, burglery, & murder. Viola! crime down by 85%! Ra, Ra, ANC government. I AM NOT JOKING! Watch this space!

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/03 10:56:46 AM Good heavens, the standards of comment on this website are really going down the hole. Boettger was paid to leave a promising career and be the second fallguy and takeover the mess from van As. Its well known outsiders battle to make it in the paper industry, but van As was too useless and too arrogant to develop management depth behind him. If Cronje and Brink (more of the old Sanlam cabal)need their bums kicked its because they rein in van As long ago.

Power delays cost SA R2bn/year 2009/03/03 10:53:42 AM Trying to close the door after the horse has bolted?You numbnuts where advised ten years ago but your arogance and racial obsession has clouded your judgement.

Mboweni: Slump is good news 2009/03/03 10:45:41 AM That of course, assumes we must have an ANC pres!

Govt still sees growth in '09 2009/03/03 10:43:48 AM This boy is either very dim or very dishonest or both. And he doesn't have a very high opinion of the SA public's intelligence either. But our hero Manuel says the same thing, and we know that he's not dim. Which means......

Unpaid Pamodzi workers strike 2009/03/03 10:37:51 AM Does the company not have to make a formal announcement in this regard? The directors are responsible to keep shareholders informed?

Surge in pass rate of black CAs 2009/03/03 10:32:32 AM @Synic. So true. The word "Bell Curve" is one of those uniquely South African words. Education institutions dont apply the pass or fail result. First we play with our "Bell Curve" to give a pass or fail result.

JSE could counter global sell-off 2009/03/03 10:31:44 AM A weak Rand is not a solution to structural weaknesses and poor fundamentals . Chris Gibbons and Kunze are starting to sound like my local estate agents trying to sell me a stressed owner’s home overlooking the Kloof Golf course. A desperate attempt at talking up a parlous market, where you are 100% sure to get burnt if you get too close. Exactly who benefits from a weak Rand , other than short term super gains for a handful of Gold Miners ? A weak currency is not the silver bullet for all ills . It forces prices of essentials such as food and fuel and transport upwards . Machinery and capital equipment becomes more costly. If the SARB see prices increase, they tame it with higher interest rates. Consumers who drive the retail economy slow down spending. Exactly which counters on the JSE will benefit from share purchases due to a weak Rand. There is huge currency risk right now, so who exactly is going to be dumb enough to buy SA equities, and risk not only share price losses, but currency losses too.

Unpaid Pamodzi workers strike 2009/03/03 10:31:27 AM Everybody saw this coming. How could the board of directors allow it to get this far? They should be held accountable as they were aware there was no money to pay salaries; do they know about reckless trading???

SA gold shares fly 2009/03/03 10:30:34 AM Yogi Bear, on what fundamentals do you base your s****d statement? One Eskom power-cut, one major strike, one accident, one stupid comment/remark by an ANC politician, one wrong political decision re. interest rates, etc. etc and your mine shares will drop out of the sky while the gold price will still be climbing because of continued demand for physical gold.

Rand weaker, but off worst levels 2009/03/03 10:29:07 AM Awwww, now we won't be able to benefit from the lower oil price :(

Cartel firms get off 'scot-free' 2009/03/03 10:27:24 AM PS. I like it but in addition to the very necessary Financial Justice I would strongly advocate some Chinese justice. I do pray that these slimebags try the same tricks in The Peoples Republic! I have always dreaded the looming takeover of Africa by China, but now I would welcome it.

PSV shows value in AltX 2009/03/03 10:26:58 AM Probably Uncle BOB.Or maybe either the head of the Armed Forces or Police.

R70bn state tender under fire 2009/03/03 10:24:56 AM Maybe Cosatu/ANC got wind of him defecting to COPE? Not the first time the Skweyiya's have been in the press for shady dealings.

Surge in pass rate of black CAs 2009/03/03 10:21:33 AM Oh dear , the Bell Curve has been introduced to these exams too !

Govt gives up on land deadline 2009/03/03 10:19:47 AM In Malawai, Zambia, Mozambique, et al the black "farmers" are still using subsistance farming, i.e. farm to produce enough food for you and your family until the next season on a small patch of land. Have they also been deskilled by the apartheid regime? When the ANC came into power in 1994 they became the biggest owner of property in the Southern Hemisphere (according to the Freemarket Foundation) courtesy of the apartheid regime. Why don't they distribute that land to the so-called landless?

JSE could counter global sell-off 2009/03/03 10:18:36 AM The weak Rand helps some sectors and hammers other sectors. With commodity prices trending downwards the Rand would have to weaken a hell of a lot to make a significant impact. My personal opinion is that a weak Rand makes us more competitive as a developing country. India, China and most of South East Asia have developed successfully on weak currencies

Manuel: more jobs on the line 2009/03/03 10:15:35 AM Look at the economic cycles in relation to social unrest . Sharpeville riots led to massacre, middle of a recession, which had started in the US in 1958 . Then, Winter June 1976 , middle of worldwide post Vietnam recession, Soweto uprising. 1982 (gold price collapses) through 1987 severe recession , period of extreme social unrest and unemployment, people being set alight in with car tyres. SA has a pattern of social disturbance during tough times. Apartheid was a convenient side-issue

Racec: pay up 2009/03/03 10:14:41 AM Its called invoice discounting and lots of companies do it.

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/03 10:13:12 AM check this ANC ADVERT out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_y-AtZocMM

Surge in pass rate of black CAs 2009/03/03 10:01:21 AM CA's are so overrated!! I have never had the pleasure of employing a decent one.

Google SA boss resigns 2009/03/03 10:01:01 AM That smell of rats in the air again? Is someone going to check the books - carefully?

Racec: pay up 2009/03/03 09:59:35 AM I know how it feels, blue chips think money grows on trees.

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/03 09:51:17 AM Yet another payment/"award"/"bonus" that will generate no return. When will companies learn? Invest your money in income generating assets, not to someone who drinks tea and eats biscuits all day.

JSE could counter global sell-off 2009/03/03 09:49:47 AM They request no bad language , but this article is a load of....('bad language'). A weak Rand does not help anybody, it results in import prices rocketing (which in the case of fuel ^ is inflationary) and results in increased interest rates and harm to the consumers spending patterns. We aleady cant export cars as the demand has fallen , steel and other commodity demand has fallen. High spend tourists from wealthy countries are not visiting, ( they are in recession), this article in nonsense.

SA emigrants left in the lurch 2009/03/03 09:41:28 AM SA’s President Kgalema Motlanthe said on 6 November 2008 that government will address crime as part of an effort to stop emigration, this brings hope, but we all know it is just another empty promise from the interim President. Horace, you sound just as frustrated as many other South Africans. Whites are also no sissies, they are only a minority, about 7% of the population in SA that still make a major positive difference. Unfortunately the current politicians don’t recognize it and is focusing on the minority by enforcing BEE and play with corruption and forget about the blind majority voter support they enjoy. So yes, the majority of people in SA are focusing on the whites, so for whites to leave SA is not a bad thing and once made over seas they will never come back to SA.

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/03 09:38:55 AM What the hell has Shaik got to do with this story cicero?? Can I help you pack? Can we rather stick to the story at hand!

Rand hits 5-week low 2009/03/03 09:36:17 AM Rand...low. What DID you expect? Sell the managements & keep the institutions! GERHARD - is it? Do you know the history od NB? History can repeat itself. I repeat my forecast of some time ago at risk of derision:"Here's an '09 Forecast (with current figures in brackets) : AU $2000+ ($964), FT 2500 (4300).JSE all sh. 13000 (23400), R/$ 17+ (10.14), R/E 23+, (12.45), OD prime 17%+ (14.00%), MBond 19+. (14.00%)".

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/03 09:31:47 AM Kobus, keep your unrelated rubbbish to yourself or some more applicable forum.If you want to pray for me fine, but shove off unless you have something topic-related to add.

Are bank savings guaranteed? 2009/03/03 09:22:37 AM Be very, very cautious of "Financial Advisors" Have no truck with them ( unless MAYBE they are family!).

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/03 09:21:40 AM Kobus, are you OK, or is the stress of life getting to you?

Surge in pass rate of black CAs 2009/03/03 09:19:59 AM AG SHAME! LOOKS LIKE MONKEY SEE MONKEY DO TYPE OF EDUCATION. OH! AND HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH THE HEAD POLITICAL HONCHO OBSESSED WITH COLOUR AND NUMBERS. PATHETIC MOB!! GET A COPY OF "IQ AND THE WEALTH OF NATIONS BY LYNN & VANHANEN 2006" TU NE CEDE MALIS.

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/03 09:16:59 AM @cicero - go deliver a pizza rather idiot

SA emigrants left in the lurch 2009/03/03 09:12:06 AM @DK. Isn't it weird how nationals from other countries can work and live around the planet without getting slagged off, but as soon as a Saffer does the same, it's immediately assumed that he/she is a disloyal, non-patriotic coward. God, people in this country can be so parochial.

Are bank savings guaranteed? 2009/03/03 09:11:48 AM No they are not gauranteed by gov. Manuel expressly said so in his budget. (They have far more urgent uses for our money, like lacing their own pockets! there have been instances in the past where depositors have been protected (Santam) but that is ad hoc. ( Even little Cyprus gaurantees bank deposits up to CP 100 000) Consider SA Retail Bonds (Government Bonds) You will not have the liquidity (2 - 5 years) but you will have security(!?) & a monthly income. www.treasury.gov.za. Good luck

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/03 09:11:41 AM I have heard a nice name for Deloitte. TOILET & DOUCHE. i think it suits them perfectly. As for Shaik how about this. SHAIK, RATTLE & PAROLE. I am on a roll this morning!!!!!

Surge in pass rate of black CAs 2009/03/03 09:11:28 AM These new CAs are definitely not worth their salt, I'm overseeing some of these new extensively trained CAs, and I can tell that they don't even know how to do proper bank recon. All they're good at is wearing suits.

Govt still sees growth in '09 2009/03/03 09:07:38 AM Yet another politician with his head in "cloud cuckoo land". Facts: 1)The global economy is slowing rapidly and is in crisis: 2)Exports are down and will be down for time to come. 3) Manufacturing in the doldrums..4)Retail growth unlikely to be sustained.5) Financial and real estate sectors going down fast . So where is the "Growth" going to come from?

Surge in pass rate of black CAs 2009/03/03 09:04:06 AM How can you celebrate the fact that only 78 black students passed? 78 new CAs aren't going to help the country very much. The pass rate is so high, because they fail all the students before they get to the level of writing the board exams. Why does SAICA not publicise the pass rate of black students or all students from Year 1 to the end of the 7 year course? I think this article shows their failure to transform & they are congratulating themselves for being lazy! 78 students passing is pathetic

Cartel firms get off 'scot-free' 2009/03/03 08:45:02 AM Must we finally give up on this beautiful country? It is the worlds biggest Organised Crime Syndicate from top to bottom. If you remain honest you will not survive.

Old Mutual shares take a knock 2009/03/03 08:38:20 AM Thank you KOBUS. From now on i'm only reading your comments.

Unemployment data 'fiction' 2009/03/03 08:38:16 AM Of course it is fiction, as are the inflation figures no matter how the "formula" is rigged. I hope Investec is looking closely at this, as they blew the whistle on the last SA STATS humbug. Watch this space!

Old Mutual shares take a knock 2009/03/03 08:37:16 AM more money more problems

How to save your business 2009/03/03 08:32:55 AM @Tonny, you pushed it to far. I closed doors in December. Hurt like a mother flafer but had to be done. My sales fell by about 10K per month now at that rate I would have had to pay the staff out of my own pockect in January already. And given my personal cashflow situation that would not have worked. But I found putting Employees on 6 Months Extended(Unpaid) Leave makes most of them Quite(No CCMA issues) and selling of the Equipment in my case could settel the Debt. So All and all I'll try agai

Shenanigans at Sappi 2009/03/03 08:31:26 AM Disgusting! Answer to your penultimate question: inter alia, the more activities you have overseas the more opportunity you have to move funds offshore?

Unemployment data 'fiction' 2009/03/03 08:30:33 AM I believe that almost everyone is of the opinion that most of what is stated as fact by any SA Institution is a lie. Simply look at the value of the Rand - $1.00/R10.52 - that says it all. SA is unwinding - just like good ol' Zim

Carnage as investors panic 2009/03/03 08:29:18 AM Investors? Lets see: they sell shares and put the money where? The other world markets are dropping, so the money coming out of US is not going elsewhere. The banks are battling liquidity issues, so the money is not going into banks as deposits. "Investors" do not put money into mattresses, and bonds aren't doing so well. So are we looking at "Investors" that borrowed from the banks to buy shares, who now owe the banks more than the shares are worth, hence making the downwards spiral even worse?

Carnage as investors panic 2009/03/03 08:24:11 AM Economists said housing bubble what housing bubble. Switch off your TV's and dont listen to these turkeys, they got us into this mess, why should we believe anything they say now. Turn your lavish gardens into veggie patches and brace yourself. That solves your food problem Heathen, but basicllay this world as we know it is stuffed. Maybe we will crave that long lasting riches in heaven one day. The leaders that got this world into this mess should go on trial with all the evil businessman.

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/03 08:22:47 AM KOBUS - good stuff to start a day with. But its hard to keep your faith in human nature after articles like today.Please let me into the secret : how do you manage to get so much space? I am restricted to 500 characters? I would love to write pages & pages. ( I can almost hear the howls of protest!!)

Old Mutual shares take a knock 2009/03/03 08:22:19 AM Lazy jounralism as it does not state why the share price has collapsed relatively to Sanlam, Firstrand etc. With some digging I cam up with the following. Old Mutual has $20 billion in liabilites that are backed by corporate bonds in the US - we call them debentures here. Many of these bonds could default and one they do they have to be written doen to Zero - Mark to Market. This will leave a hole which must be filled by OM selling other assets - like Nedbank!!!. God Beleivers - dream on.

SA gold shares fly 2009/03/03 08:20:31 AM Thlogi, I believe you should consider the reality of commodity as opposed to fiat currency. Currency backed by "trust" of a given government to honor value will not feed your family. Hard asset physical ownership of a given commodity(silver,gold as example)will in times of turmoil provide for your needs as the physical commodity is a tangible liquid asset, easily sold/bartered. Fiat currency is worthless when opinion of the public devalues a governing body(i.e. Mugabe and his charlatan presidency has devalued his currency reminiscent of the "Notgeld" of German Hyperinflation in the 1920's. An ounce of Gold at that time would buy a very fine suit...as it was then it remains todsy...an ounce of gold will buy a very nice suit. Should you consider Numismatic Gold, a 1907 $20 US Gold Piece(High Reief)Arabic Numerals, a one ounce coin, has a record auction price exceeding $1 millionj US Dollars. In short...have gold...

Car sales slump hits Bidvest 2009/03/03 08:18:12 AM Yeah you can buy a car manufactured right here in SA anywhere outside our borders for much cheaper - and that includes that country's import duties, markup etc. I've also heard of a guy who wanted to import a land cruiser from the US. Had all the paper work done by the book and they would not let him have the car to protect the local industry. He got it for half price. It's time for payback!!!!

Surge in pass rate of black CAs 2009/03/03 08:17:35 AM Lowering of standards would ultimately result in failure, just another new south african educational JOKE, and if you’re a white male it’s a richest JOKE!

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/03 08:15:38 AM This is almost as outrageous as squalid little crook Shaik being released from prison. (I notice no facility for COMMENT there)How many other good & honourable people in RSA are suffering from hypertension & depression with little hope of such release? Shaiks brother CHEAPY has already fled to OZ (a land not favouring extradition to RSA) ahead of a $3m bribe enquiry.. Do not expect too much from "Too Late To Douche". Look at thir record elsewhere. This, if nothing will finally drive me from RSA.

Carnage as investors panic 2009/03/03 08:14:49 AM Greed has superceded sanity. Its not over until all materials things become worthless. Watch this space very carefully. These conditions are forming the basis of the worst still to come. If banks dont have money to lend and we have lived off borrowed money then basically growth is stuffed. To fix this will take 10 to 20 years where we could possibly see a world war during this period. Our current world leaders dont have the insight or the ability to pull this one off.

Carnage as investors panic 2009/03/03 08:06:13 AM Mark, everlasting riches in heaven don't put food on my plate at dinner time.

Old Mutual shares take a knock 2009/03/03 08:05:29 AM My Dear Shorts I sincerely hope that you come to terms with who God is before it is too late. You see God created men to be a blessing to Him, it is like you have your kids and you see they are naughty, you don’t abandon town or the country because they are naughty, you reprimand them because you love them. Olive oil, orange juice etc ...the good things from the fruit is squeezed out .Just the same are tough times they squeeze the best out of a person.

Unemployment data 'fiction' 2009/03/03 08:03:02 AM Lets face it the ANC is still in the struggle. They struggle to draw a straight line through 2 points! But they had only 1 point on the plot and then you can a draw a line through it in any direction and have zero error deviation. The ANC is a joke! A struggling joke. Its a disgrace.

Surge in pass rate of black CAs 2009/03/03 07:51:56 AM So that would be a 78% increase in one year? Yeah riiigghhtt.

CAs can 'make a fortune' 2009/03/03 07:51:31 AM I have a better idea. Instead of being a vulture and feeding off the dead, how about using the highly acclaimed qualification to aid ailing businesses with good professional advice so that they do not become insolvent. The idea being to SAVE JOBS and not profit from someone else's demise!!!

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/03 07:48:08 AM LOL Deloitte and Touche. Looks like your reputation has just gone for a ball of...

Cartel firms get off 'scot-free' 2009/03/03 07:47:57 AM Murray nad Roberts is a total disgrace. The only punishmenent should be jail time for the directors/CFO/CEO. Forget the fine - it is a drop in the ocean compared to the profits made from the collusion.

Car sales slump hits Bidvest 2009/03/03 07:47:20 AM They raped the buyers for years! Let them BURN! Spend the cash on bicycle lanes, lol.

Surge in pass rate of black CAs 2009/03/03 07:46:54 AM Shortage of accountants??? I think not. I am a CA and I have completed the first two levels of the CFA course and even when I am willing to accept a significant drop in salary, I still cannot get work as an accountant. I am a white male so maybe that works against me??? Maybe what the professional bodies should be advocating is that there is a shortage of coloured/ black and indian accountants and not making a generalised statement that there is a lack of accountants.

R70bn state tender under fire 2009/03/03 07:44:13 AM Way to go COSATU, you always fight for the wellbeing of the poor. Im glad for the Incoming government, it is not an elite one but it will interact with the needy.

Carnage as investors panic 2009/03/03 07:36:33 AM So the greedy boys are about to gulp down their final fall. Remember "do not gather wealth on earth where rot(greed!!!) and rust will destroy it, but gather up riches in HEAVEN , this is everlasting"

Car sales slump hits Bidvest 2009/03/03 07:35:29 AM I wish Renault (AutoXtra) go under. They deserve it. I know, I have one, they are they worst.

Carnage as investors panic 2009/03/03 07:27:38 AM Sideways!!!??? I think it's going to knock us down. Down 6ft. And with growing political instability and intransigence from Manual and Mboweni maybe 6ft is the conservative estimate.

Old Mutual shares take a knock 2009/03/03 07:20:28 AM Hey Kobus, God has already given up totally on this Planet Earth in both frustration and disgust at the greedy, corrupt, self-indulgent, immoral, uncaring monster that he has unwittingly created called man ! This experiment has failed so he has moved on elsewhere into another faraway galaxy where he will try again, learning from the mistakes of the past. We are all on our own !!!!!

SA emigrants left in the lurch 2009/03/03 07:11:36 AM SA white are sissies - that's why crime is so bad. Then we go whine overseas. We are not active in our communities and to pathetic to even get out of our cars when we see someone get mugged. We go overseas because of our apathy and cowardice. The jokes on us...

Cartel firms get off 'scot-free' 2009/03/03 07:01:41 AM This is fraud, and the solution is simple. Cancel the contracts, shut down the companies like M&R and re-open tenders to overseas suppliers. A delay of a few months will make no difference at all, may even get the job done quicker. But I guess this is SA and fraud and corruption are the norm. A project like Gautrain is insanity anyway, for a lot less we could have had a decent city public transport system (wonder what the actual cost will be, close to R100b?). nuff said

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/03 06:56:34 AM GETTING THINGS DONE Every now and then God gently taps you on the shoulder and reminds you of what life is all about. I got just such a tap the other day. It was a day when there was too many errands to run, too much work to do and not enough time in the day to do it. I was rushed, stressed, and irritable. I even snapped at my kids to hurry up and get ready for school as I worried about how I was ever going to get everything done that day. It was then, however, that I got my gentle tap on the shoulder. Actually, it was more of a one, two punch from my furry friends. As I stood there frowning with worry and tensed up with stress, I felt a sticking in my left leg. At the same time my right hand suddenly felt warm and wet. I looked down and found one of my cats with her claws on my knee looking up with that scratch my head look in her eyes. When I turned to my right I saw my drooling Saint Bernard nuzzling in for a few pets himself. I smiled at my loving, furry friends and at the same time heard God’s gentle voice in my mind saying: “You are not here to get things done. You are here to love.” I thanked God for the reminder as the stress disappeared and the worry faded away. I gave each of my kids a hug before heading out to start the day. I still had a lot to do, of course, but now I did it with a smile on my face. I sang joyously along with the music in my car as I ran my errands. I did my work at home happily and easily taking several breaks to pet my dogs, hold my cats, look at the Fall leaves, and to tell God just how much I loved Him. I got everything done with time to spare and most importantly I did it all blissfully, peacefully, and lovingly. The next time that the stress of getting things done starts to build up inside of you, then take a break and remember why you are really here. In the end, it is the love we share, the joy we spread, and the happiness we create that matters. Those are the things God wants us to get done. By Joseph J. Mazzella

Old Mutual shares take a knock 2009/03/03 06:55:46 AM We should start each new day with a refreshed outlook anticipating great things ahead. We should never go through our life with a pessimistic attitude ready to focus on the bad and look for something to complain about. We should rejoice in the fact that we are alive and we should use all of our energy to give thanks and praise to God for giving us our many blessings and for favoring us as He has. The Bible declares in Psalm 118:24 “This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.” Be encouraged to focus on the many blessings that surround you and never allow the few negatives in your path to steal your joy and make you question God's goodness. Become an optimist who sees your glass as always half-full and never half-empty. You will soon find that having a positive outlook will not only change the way you look at life, but it will also change the way others look at you. (Psalm 103:1-5) (Psalm 91:1-4) I hope this message encourages and inspires you to have a merry heart and an easy disposition. You will find that looking on the bright side of things is much better for your spirit than allowing yourself to worry over things that do not matter.

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/03 06:20:28 AM USA investors bailing out bad governance, no transparency SPP $ 1.56 1.56 -0.44 (-22.00%) 136,789

How to save your business 2009/03/03 05:47:36 AM Interesting that Reddy chose to touch on monopolies; possibly the single greatest threat to the survival of justifiable ventures. In such times the bloated monopolies are ‘too big to fail’ and are rescued – either directly or indirectly. Locally this is perpetuated by the SA Competition Commission - a political tool focussing on points-scoring...

Carnage as investors panic 2009/03/03 05:36:44 AM Hold tight boys..... this is going to knock us sideways

JSE hurt in global bloodbath 2009/03/03 02:54:51 AM The ALSI should bottom out at around 14 000 to be an attrtactive bet

Money market: stay or go? 2009/03/03 02:52:39 AM The textbook that Dynamic are using is obselete. No one in their right mind should be even thinking of equities right now, not until its 100% clear the market has bottomed out, and there is no evidence of this at all. Simply , they should be advising their clients to retire debt, if they have debt or invest in ordinary old bank deposits if they are debt free. Of course they cant say this as they need income coming into thier coffers, so they will not advise this course of action .

Google SA boss resigns 2009/03/03 02:28:46 AM Stafford was the best guy they could have made their MD. He changed our entire board into thinking more digital and the results have been amazing! Our agency and the Google team have worked closely and we are hoping to achieve full end to end above and below the line branding and messaging. Our company deals with the top 4 agencies and none of them concur with the negative comment below! Stafford will be sorely missed by this industry in need of disruption and waking up!

Google SA boss resigns 2009/03/03 02:21:54 AM You clearly speak only on behalf of one, maybe two agencies, in South Africa. Not the rest! I am a client who deals with the local SA Google team and I have met extensively with Stafford. What he has done now is honorable and hopefully he does get to sort out his family and give them the attention needed. Stafford established a very strong footprint, his team has been unbelievable for us (we've kicked out our agency since working with them). Google could not have had a better man at the helm!

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/03 12:03:20 AM I like to take responsibility, old school it seems. Nevertheless, actions that Deloitte & Touche display cause me to render part of the economic melt down to bankers and these auditors. The bankers lent to easily,made the future revenue(interest payable) of banks look sweet,they get extreme bonuses.& now we enjoy the situation of what some say is an economic melt down? Throw the corrupt into a jail & lose the key. Ps dont type an essay, summarise the story James.

Old Mutual shares take a knock 2009/03/02 11:54:21 PM The writing is on the wall. Recall that deficit that was spoken about a few days ago; when dividends are paid to investors OUTSIDE of ZA, it costs the economy more. That just by the way is where the normal person on the street becomes important. The banks get those profits (dividends) from bank charges ect, hence it IS a good investment for investors outside of ZA. Thats because they cant rip there own people off, so they invest here, where banks have legal capacity to rip off clients; hence those normal people are now important.

Rand hits 5-week low 2009/03/02 11:46:40 PM Surely if Old Mutual sells Nedbank, there will be an initial capital inflow into SA, thus boosting the Rand?

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/02 11:30:44 PM Vote ID and let patricia tackle these gluttons!

Car sales slump hits Bidvest 2009/03/02 11:29:57 PM I am in the market for a new bike, if they think I am going to pay the advertised price, I have big news for them! This is a buyers market now people, cash talks! Suzuki I need a huge discount!!!

Absa hit by exec departures 2009/03/02 11:29:43 PM Well CICERO .. there is just no right awnser...I am thinking of my mattress.. well i am just keeping my eyes open i am already 57% down on my investment in one of ABSA'a portfolios but now i am less worried about the 57% and more about the remaining 43%... So i will move to more localy owned bank and monitor the industry ... but right now ABSA is high risk institution and its starting to show!

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/02 11:16:34 PM WELL !!!! Deloitte & Touche, Y're credibility has not just left this building, but the entire country!! U must know by now that what u have touched has now sturred!! Goodbye no more faith in that Co.

Tills still ring at Hyprop malls 2009/03/02 10:14:10 PM Vacancy is highest at the newest mall, built when building costs was at it highest and interest rates at its highest. This will be the thorn in its side. The Glen will be the star in its portfolio over time

Rand hits 5-week low 2009/03/02 10:09:58 PM I see Wall Street has been hit by the $62bn corporate loss of AIG 4rth q 2008.

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/02 09:34:55 PM Failure to disclose to shareholders (and or relevant stakeholders) is bridge of Corporate governance rules. This is a basic requirement that one would expect Sappi directors to understand and respect. Whoever was negotiating the signing on fee for the CEO was out of his mind, consideraing that the company has not been doing well. The working class will always suffer at the expense of these capilalists. Good work Mr. Botha, you are not a passive shareholder activist

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/02 09:32:19 PM Just got to mind. I think the NPA should write a book with all the dealings of the arms deal which include JZ and kie. Write it as a novel, and name it “Animal Farm 2”. This way they can not stop the truth from coming out, because it’s fictional and their name is not mentioned, be we would recognize the dancing pig in the story!

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/02 09:19:30 PM its because of this type of corrupt bonus payments, that the world is in heading for THE financial DISASTER in history!!!!!!!!!!!

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 09:18:00 PM Why would SA even mess with Zim - until they lose Bob we will look like the pariahs we really are. As SA struggles with a record R17 Billion deficit, the Rand is at a low of 10.50/$1 you dont want to be seen as giving Bob anything. You just know he will spend the first $2 mil on furniture for his new HK pad. Gaza just got $4.5 Billion to rebuild - Zim got squat Go figure

Old Mutual shares take a knock 2009/03/02 09:17:16 PM Apart from OM being a bad proposition, I find the journalism equally bad - no mention of the share price in the story!!! Is I-Net Bridge next?

Google SA boss resigns 2009/03/02 09:12:15 PM He didn't do anything for Google and made promises and broke them constantly, maybe Google found out that he was considered totally arrogant and useless by so many people. He actually destroyed Google's name in SA and the rest of his team is not much better! By the way this is not only a personal opinion but that of so many agencies in SA including 5 of the bigger agencies!

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/02 08:52:21 PM @Kolobe: the did make headlines with this guy!

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 08:23:31 PM If I remember correctly it was Morgan Tsvangirai, not Robert Mugabe asking for the Aid money. I am sure Morgan does not enjoy working with Robert due to the fact that there are still many MDC members in jail. I believe that Morgan has the interest of the Zimbabwean people at heart and with Tendai Biti (from the MDC) controlling the finance ministry, this time things could me different. Give the MDC a chance. Morgan is begging for the opportunity to show what the MDC can do, especially with a possible election coming up within two years.

Unemployment data 'fiction' 2009/03/02 07:52:43 PM Solidarity also said the same today. Looks like StatsSA is gonna be in for some flak again.

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 07:48:10 PM And another thing: Who is fitting the bill of R21 already spend for the Cholera outbreak in SA. This should be deducted from any "Relief" money and future expense from Bob next house!

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 07:42:17 PM Ifthis money goes to the betterment of the people of Zimbabwe then give it by all means.The only regret is that I am almost sure it will end up being used to buy exclusive furniture for (I take all) Mugabes $10000000 house in China while his people live 17Km below the breadline.Please DO NOT GIVE HIM THE MONEY

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 07:41:31 PM The ANC has lost the plot completely. We have our own citizens dying of hunger, colera and Aids. And you want to give a guy who has declared war on his own people and white farmers. Forget it, he can retire/die/rot before he and his cronies get any of my money! The ANC should be very careful here ... this will cost them the election!

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 07:41:13 PM The only logical reason I can see that this SA government wants to just give and give and give to Bob is, because there is obviously some deal going on. Why can they only take money and no other resources? The Zim deal is like the Arms deal! Please ANC, please tell your supporters why you want to give 300mil plus to a mad man. Bob’s wives will spend it anyway. Please inform the supporters why Bob can have it, and the masses in SA, only get the promises. Supply Zim with resources NOT MONEY!

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/02 07:41:05 PM They forgot to mention that this guy neede the money to feed his 16 sixteen wives and 150 kids.

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 07:37:48 PM So let me see - we must lend our money to the same idiots who just blew $250 000 on a party for Bob? Like we're likely to ever see a cent repaid? I DON'T THINK SO!!!

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 07:37:27 PM Where did Mugabe get the R 56,5 million that he paid (cash) for the house in Hong Kong?

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 07:27:21 PM Yes I agree, Mugabe can’t be trusted. But if we want to save Zimbabwe and by extension most of Southern Africa, we will have to work with Mugabe.

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/02 07:26:54 PM But JZ is not someone who generates cash - just remember that.

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 07:26:53 PM Ah, so were going to do the same thing, 'the west' has been doing for years! Borrow developing countries stacks of money, on condition, that they use their (the west's) construction companies, traders and goods. And here I thought the master plan of the ANC, was to just buy Zimbabwe for a discount after its collapse.

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 07:26:28 PM it is not worth it for as long as Mugabe is still the President,Let him suffer until he resigns,He is a threat to humanity and morality.it is time for change and that change is now,let us not waste the tax payers money,i'm sorry

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 07:26:05 PM Are we crazy.Helping Zim. with our tax money.Start delivering in our own country first.How many people in SA are still waiting for houses not to talk about the shocking state of our medical care system.

Outcry over Sappi CEO's bonus 2009/03/02 07:24:25 PM Geez!!!what a waste of money!!2 million for three months!!!if this was JZ it would have made headlines!!!

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 07:23:49 PM I wouldn't trust Zimbabwe to distribute the money at all, if the SA govemrnet want to lend money because they think it will be spent on SA goods then the SA goverment should rather buy food and essential goods from South African companies and send it up in the form of aid and ensure that it is distributed to the poor in Zimbabwe.

Old Mutual shares take a knock 2009/03/02 07:23:19 PM The problem with OM is the same as that of the rest of the finance world- The Efficient Market Hypothesis is the ramblings of a fool- these guys have produced models to price financial assets that are so incredibly far off the mark that now they are all going bankrupt-Why- because they paid R100 for something worth R1...simple maths. Companies whose economists have believed that the above is sound economics have made their bed and now its bedtime!!

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 07:21:16 PM I am not in favour of my tax money being used to help the Mugabe regime while Mugabe advocates chasing white farmers off their lands.

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 07:08:19 PM If the ANC wants to do this, let them use their supporters money for it. I certainly do not want my tax money wasted in this way, as I am sure old madBob will find a way to get his hands on it. The people will never benefit, except maybe in some token gestures. How Motlante can even consider this, I cannot fathom, as he should know Mugabe cannot be trusted.

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 07:05:41 PM Zimbabwe is on the brink of collapse. If Zimbabwe completely fails, the crises will be felt throughout the most prosperous part of Sub-Saharan Africa. If you think there is a lot of Zimbabweans in South Africa now, you don’t want to know how many there will be after a complete collapse of Zimbabwe. This would create a ripple effect of instability and insecurity that will affect the entire continent. We cannot allow this to happen. Give the MDC (who control the finance ministry) a chance, see what they can do. Or risk the alternatives which could end up costing a lot more than $2 billion.

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 07:04:26 PM It is about time Africa reached political and moral maturity. There is simply no excuse or justification for putting one cent into Zimbabawe as long as Mugabe and his chronies are running the country. We do ourselves no good as a continent when we continue to happily overlook the murder, torture, theft and excesses committed by these regimes.

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 07:00:01 PM @EISH forget about race, they dont care for us black either here at home..so i dont see anything to do with race, just plain stupidity

Old Mutual shares take a knock 2009/03/02 06:55:42 PM There is something seriously and drastically wrong with this organisation, and the self-indulgent idiots in charge are not comimg clean. May these guys be shamed and haunted forever

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 06:52:47 PM if only that money was going to be used for the right purposes. i dont trust mugabe so i dont think this is a good move!

Unemployment data 'fiction' 2009/03/02 06:51:13 PM @Matt: Shüssler is on record as having made Stats SA eat their words on unemployment, AND actually admit to it and revise their figures. It is only right that he keeps on keeping them in check, because they are obviously asleep.

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 06:50:45 PM If our president can prove that the R300 million was wisely spent then he can go ahead with a larger amount. If not he is a fool to provide assistance without requiring accountability

Car sales slump hits Bidvest 2009/03/02 06:48:31 PM Motor industry bailout, why not, instead of giving the car makers the billions, give R20,000 to every South African who wants to buy a new car?

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 06:44:31 PM Why doesn't Mugabe just ask the West for a loan?

SA gold shares fly 2009/03/02 06:41:51 PM Don’t buy physical gold, rather invest in gold companies.

Old Mutual shares take a knock 2009/03/02 06:40:11 PM Is there someone out there senior in Old Mutual to commment on this rumour . If it is true or not , I cant believe that a company like Old Mutual liase in a way that they say they dont comment on rumours .Are you loosing it completely OLD MUTUAL,

Attack on Angolan 'oligarchs' 2009/03/02 06:36:29 PM At least someone of privilege (female!)in Angola is seeing the bigger picture and is speaking truth to power. Graca Machel provides a great example of this for Mocambique - but I very much doubt Grace Mugabe would ever be as morally obliged to as outspoken.

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 06:31:56 PM I believe Mothlanthe should explain to his electorate how much is spent on Zimbabwe, Zimbabwean refugees and illegal immigrants from Zimbabwe. He must then explain nicely to them that it is money that should have gone to the poorest of poor. He should also tell them this would continue after the election. The sponsorship of Mugabe by the South African Government and the ANC is sickening. The criticism leveled at Mugabe by Vavi is a smokescreen to protect him and ANC leaders. Vavi knows his supporters are anti Mugabe and the criticism is a tactic to cover his backside and a pacifier.

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 06:31:06 PM AHAHAHAHA - Yes, Zimbabwe is "striken" - like it was hit by a natural disaster. Tell that to the Zimbabwean doctors and ICT specialists working as waiters here in SA. And the thing is, Mugabe is still not brought to book. Is there not one single sane person left in Government?!!? Shocking.

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 06:30:34 PM The situation in Zim is acceptable for our Goverment and in particular the way in wich Robert Mugabe govens Zim . We can only give this money if it goes directly to MR Mugabe , otherwise it isnt politically correct.

Old Mutual shares take a knock 2009/03/02 06:28:11 PM @Rightguard: You are talking utter nonsense. Policy values are not affected by the companies share price. How do you explain the returns on funds vested into Money Market & short term strategic bonds within the Old Mutual group? Policy (Vested into Equities) values going down is because of International trends not because of share prices. Does it pest you if you loose on fund values? Then you are in the wrong investment space. In my opinion, the share value is attractive and a good value.

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 06:26:40 PM I can not understand how Zimbabwe can ask its neighbours for aid when the whole of Africa does not have 2 pence to rub together.

Unemployment data 'fiction' 2009/03/02 06:24:04 PM More pre-election dribble. We all know Stats SA's agenda - and for this they get paid fat salaries!! It's criminal. Unemployment seems to be at least 50% but probably even more.

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 06:23:39 PM S.A going into recession jobs are lost and you want to give Zim money no ways man you are waisting our tax money which could rather bespend on bouncing back our economy. Save South Africa from the people who cant work with Money.

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 06:22:07 PM Mugabe is the curse of Africa and cannot be trusted one iota. No doubt the money will also be used to sustain his extravagant lifestyle as well as to fund Mrs. Mugabe's shopping trips and their overseas holidays. Anybody who lends to a government still under the absolute control of man has got to be nuts, and a South African taxpayer I would strenuously object!

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 06:18:10 PM If the Zim government is serious about rebuilding the country, why don't they ask for cultural expertise from SA? Why don't they offer lucrative deals, where successfull farmers from SA (whether black or white) could help re-build the backbone of their economy viz. the agriculture. Only want money one their terms! The past where racist remarks could be made and forgiven is past. If we as AFRICANS, white or black don't learn to work together, we are all screwed!

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 06:14:53 PM It is clear after this weekend, that Bob can not be given the money. SA government, must put foot down, and tell him to leave the FARMERS alone. That must be the top priority. If SA government does not put their foot down about this FARMER issue and gives the money, all white, brown, colors shall know this - you are the racists and you do not care about all South-Africans, only blacks. The proof of this will be in the pudding! We, the non blacks await you actions.

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 06:14:01 PM I agree with Ann. Before a unilateral decision of this magnitude is taken by the head-in-the-clouds and delusional upper echelons of the ANC, shouldn't there be a referendum? Oh sorry, I forgot for a moment there that we are living in a communist dictatorship. They have convinced themselves that South Africa has pots of money to donate to the other tinpot countries around us and that we do not have any poverty-stricken people here that are worthy of help. What a terrible joke they are.

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 06:11:48 PM The word 'may' infers uncertainty. Thus why lend money if outcome is uncertain. Stop pussyfooting around issues and insist on problems being solved before promising help to Zim government. The people on the ground shall get help. Just trust in God!

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 06:06:54 PM How can this even be considered? All these funds will just be missed used or stolen. Mugabe is clearly an idiot or mentaly impaired. There is no reason in anything he has done. His people are starving, the country is in the toilet, but still he insists on chasing every productive farmer out and push away countries that can assist him. He is so consumed with his racist beliefs that he would rather see all his people suffer than just work together and judge people for who they are.

Unemployment data 'fiction' 2009/03/02 06:06:13 PM If unemployment is not as much down as the ANC (Government) predics, why does so many people get laid off? WAKE up and stop bullshitting the country any longer.

Unemployment data 'fiction' 2009/03/02 06:00:29 PM All comments and guesses being equal, how about contesting facts with facts? This site is becoming a HEAT magazine for serious news...

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 05:57:07 PM Mugabe will get the money from SA and buy ammunition, riot gear and all kinds of "cop equipment" from SA with which they can terrorise and torture white farmers, dissidents and counter revolutionaries.

Motlanthe: SA may lend to Zim 2009/03/02 05:54:54 PM Charity begins at home. What guarantee do we South Africans have that money lent to Zim will not go the same way as the R300 Million which was supposed to be for seed and agricultural assistance, but ended up in the pockets of a few. If that money had been given to the long suffering South African farmers it could have improved our own food security. When will our goverment realise that it is not the ANC's money they are throwing around; but the South African Taxpayer's.

Rand hits 5-week low 2009/03/02 05:44:00 PM Now this is a worthy value wobble of the Rand to write a article aboutn, not some 20c shift. Good job Fin24.

Unemployment data 'fiction' 2009/03/02 05:40:49 PM Only Trevor Manuel & cabinet really believe these figures.(and we ARE not heading for a recession). The unemployment in this country is very close to 50% (vast majority black) and millions of kids still go to bed hungry at night after almost 15 years after democrasy. Wake up Trevor & friends BEFORE you unemplyed as well!!

Unemployment data 'fiction' 2009/03/02 05:40:29 PM Matt, Mike S is one of the best economist in the country,Stats Sa can not do numbers, the country is in shambels this is an political ploy.

DG: Govt should protect farmers 2009/03/02 05:32:12 PM Heaven help us when Derek Hanekom becomes Ministrer of Agriculture. He was the one that dismantled all the support structures, control boards, fir help, drought aid. Now they are trying to bring them all back because the new black farmer cannot cope without them!!!

Unemployment data 'fiction' 2009/03/02 05:32:11 PM so why remove the ANC from power??

Fear grips motor industry 2009/03/02 05:24:08 PM What I do not see is one consumer feeling sorry for the car industry or the parts Naamsa and Naacam? Do you get the message? Your after-sales service is pathetic and has been for years. Your standard car locally VW differs from what you exported out of the same factory and then you expect empathy. Where is the apology that you have ripped us off (e.g. VW Chico). This exactly what happened in America. How do you excuse the SEAT debacle? Of course it will not be management losing their jobs?

Govt gives up on land deadline 2009/03/02 05:23:26 PM The focus of land reform is skewed. Land reform can effect around 300 000 black people, at huge cost. Also focus on the transfer of communal land to the occupants. 22m people live on communal land (half the population!) If the land is transferred on a reasoble basis and with training, it forms an asset, one can borrow against it, or, on sell to form a bigger concern. The land is there, it is free, it only needs to be surveyed. Millions of people's lives can be effected. What about state land?

Unemployment data 'fiction' 2009/03/02 05:22:19 PM I wouldn't trust Mike S as far as I could throw him! He said oil would be at $200 by end of 2008 well he wasn't right there either. He is a headline grabbing mongoose and shouldn't be given the coverage he gets.

Old Mutual shares take a knock 2009/03/02 05:13:27 PM Its the same old story,a financial institution refusing to bring losses onto it balance sheet and waiting for the storm to blow itself out.Meanwhile everyones associated with this financial institution are losing on shares,endowment and policies values.

Car sales slump hits Bidvest 2009/03/02 05:13:15 PM What is the saying of building your house on sand? So if you build your investments on high risk business that rips off the consumer? Do you also need a bail-out? Maybe become part of the focus group of DTI. Surely investors must learn that it is to good to be true. Maybe Bidvest will sing another tune if they also have to give the overcharged cars back?

Zuma: SA faces a recession 2009/03/02 05:09:48 PM Does this mean we have to steal less...JZ?

Unemployment data 'fiction' 2009/03/02 05:05:15 PM Who to believe? So the data for rate increases CPIX is trustworthy? Economist but not unemployment? Guess what Tito would say and how the economists will support his decision. Wonder if Stats SA is going to revisit the formulas again ....ha ha ha

Unemployment data 'fiction' 2009/03/02 05:00:35 PM Just consider that we are only two months away from an election - the ANC is telling everybody how well they are running this country - OF COURSE the unemployment figures would have "dropped"! LIES, MORE LIES, and DAMNED LIES!

Fear grips motor industry 2009/03/02 04:53:17 PM The perfect storm was bound to happen. Car prices are ridicously high, interest rates and the New Credit Act. It was bound to happen and it serves the industry right. Now they have to deal with a sypmtom, because it is to late to remove the cause. No bail out plan will bring this back to the original status. It is a case of from borrowing from Paul to pay back Peter.

Old Mutual shares take a knock 2009/03/02 04:52:36 PM As a client of Old Mutual I must sound a friendly warning to Julian. Consider the future carefully dear chap (some of us are really mal jong!). In one scenario there is my pension money being indulged with growth opportunities and in another scenario there is your head on a sharp stick. Which scenario do you prefer hot stuff?

Economists optimistic about SA 2009/03/02 04:49:42 PM I kind of look at this differently. A GDP of about 5% is needed in SA to make any dent in the unemployment figures, and even then about 6% is needed to accommodate new graduates and matrics...so is a 1% GDP not "technically" a recession? Maybe so, but man, it is not any good, is it?

SA reeling from global crisis 2009/03/02 04:46:17 PM I am surprised that Sean really believes that the white SAcans want to see RSA go down the tubes. The whites built this country up to what it was before 1994. Until then everything's going downthe tube and apartheid gets blamed and the whites get blamed. who is running RSA currently? Does the government act on good advice - be it from white or blacks? -No - It's too thickheaded to respond to positive cretique. In good governance as in AIDS - there is no such ailment as AIDS - there is no problem

Unemployment data 'fiction' 2009/03/02 04:43:10 PM Jaaaa, rather ask JZ.

Rand hits 5-week low 2009/03/02 04:42:43 PM Well, at least Nedbank is worth buying, Old Mutual is not...so either HSBC or Standard Charter will score, me thinks...I'll like HSBC buying it and opening normal retail banking in SA...that will make things much easier for this expat...