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[+] Has anyone tried a VBAC at St. Vincent's hospital with Dr. Mussalli or Dr. Jackie Wor...
Talk : : February 13, 2009
[+] Anyone have a uterine rupture? Was it during labor? How was it treated and what was t... 4 replies
- Thanks for your response. Were you induced or given pitocin? Given what happened to you do you regret trying VBAC? I am trying to decide if VBAC is worth the risk....
- Because I am weighing the risks of a VBAC and want to know what happens to mom and baby if a person does have a uterine rupture....
Talk : : February 12, 2009
Anyone have a uterine rupture? Was it during labor? How was it treated and what was the outcome? (Childbearing ability intact?)
4 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]02.12.09, 12:23 PM [ Flag ]Thanks for your response. Were you induced or given pitocin? Given what happened to you do you regret trying VBAC? I am trying to decide if VBAC is worth the risk.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 03:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
why are you asking? my mother had that during labor
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 03:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Because I am weighing the risks of a VBAC and want to know what happens to mom and baby if a person does have a uterine rupture.
[ Reply | Options ]02.13.09, 08:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] vbac - anyone told that they were not a good candidate or risk was higher for them (s...
Talk : : August 15, 2008
[+] reposting on specific boards: hoping for a vbac at NY Presby. With the Hutson/Edersh... 11 replies
- you can do during the pg to deliver vbac? obviously the doc will do what is safest for...
- SLR. My Dr. is Gae Rodke, very VBAC friendly. i found the L&D staff supportive too,...
- Had VBAC with Hutson. While I was watched carefully throughout,...
- I had two VBACs with their practice (my c-section was due to...'re really not supposed to induce with a VBAC, that doesn't say much for the practice....
Talk : : August 13, 2008
reposting on specific boards: hoping for a vbac at NY Presby. With the Hutson/Edersheim/Kessler practice--Hutson is my ob. Says it is possible, but I'd like to know what I can do to help ensure I have the best shot at a VBAC. Reason for first Csec was twins. TIA
11 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]08.13.08, 02:07 PM [ Flag ]not sure what you mean? you can make sure your doc understands that is what you want but are you asking if physically there is anything you can do during the pg to deliver vbac? obviously the doc will do what is safest for you and the baby.
[ Reply | Options ]08.13.08, 02:14 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]I had a vbac 2 years ago--it all depends on the state of your pregnancy and how labor progresses. There really isn't anything you can do to make it work. Good luck, I had a very positive experience.
[ Reply | Options ]08.13.08, 02:50 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]may I ask--at which hospital did you deliver? thx
[ Reply | Options ]08.13.08, 02:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]SLR. My Dr. is Gae Rodke, very VBAC friendly. i found the L&D staff supportive too, very "you go, girl", which was nice when those contrax kicked in.
[ Reply | Options ]08.13.08, 03:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Had VBAC with Hutson. While I was watched carefully throughout, the delivery was actually, dare I say, delightful! He was terrific.
[ Reply | Options ]08.13.08, 04:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I had two VBACs with their practice (my c-section was due to multiples). Edersheim kept a close eye on the size of the baby as I have big babies. I was induced with my 2nd vbac. As you know Edersheim has left the practic, and while Hutson might be supportive make sure the drs other cover on the weekends as equally supportive
[ Reply | Options ]08.13.08, 04:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]really good to know, thanks. They won't induce me--now that is considered an added risk for uterine rupture. Did you have an epidural? How much were you dilated if/when you did? And, odd question, but are you in the medical profession, or closely related to those who are in NYC? TIA
[ Reply | Options ]08.13.08, 05:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I was induced two years ago. I did have an epiduaral after the pitocin contractions became unbearable. I was probably 5 cm. Not a medical professional but know the practice well. Edersheim suggested a midwife to help through the labor, but now that she is gone, I am not sure how kessler/hutson and the covering OBs would feel about it.
[ Reply | Options ]08.14.08, 05:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
wow, you're really not supposed to induce with a VBAC, that doesn't say much for the practice.
[ Reply | Options ]08.14.08, 05:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP: they will not induce me or give me pitocin. Protocol change, I would gather, on more recent studies.
[ Reply | Options ]08.15.08, 05:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
TO make sure you increase your chances: 1. Let them know exactly how strongly you feel about it. 2. Avoid induction or augmentation with pitocin. 3. Labor at home as *long* as possible 4. Avoid being on the external monitor as long and as much as possible (ties in with #3) 5. Stay mobile and push in different positions
[ Reply | Options ]08.14.08, 05:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] hoping for a vbac at NY Presby. With the Hutson/Edersheim/Kessler practice--Hutson i... 1 reply
- . the second time i jumped the gun a bit and i think the resident anesthesia guy f-ed up and i had problems. #3 vbac i had a private hospital outside nyc and the experience was a million times better....
Talk : : August 13, 2008
hoping for a vbac at NY Presby. With the Hutson/Edersheim/Kessler practice--Hutson is my ob. Says it is possible, but I'd like to know what I can do to help ensure I have the best shot at a VBAC. Reason for first Csec was twins. TIA
1 reply [ Reply | Watch | Options ]08.13.08, 02:06 PM [ Flag ]let them let you wait to go into labor, dont go to hosp until you are sure youre going to have the baby. i had #1 vag, #2 csec at columbia.... the second time i jumped the gun a bit and i think the resident anesthesia guy f-ed up and i had problems. #3 vbac i had a private hospital outside nyc and the experience was a million times better.
[ Reply | Options ]08.13.08, 02:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Can you have more than 2 c-sections in a row? 3 replies
- Vbac is so much better....
Talk : : August 11, 2008
Can you have more than 2 c-sections in a row?
3 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]08.11.08, 01:26 PM [ Flag ]Most docs say 4 c/s are okay.
[ Reply | Options ]08.11.08, 01:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Seems like almost everyone does....fwiw, someone told me their OB says it can be dangerous having a 3rd one so she recommends trying to avoid the 2nd. That's the only time I've ever heard somebody say that though. Then again, even if it were a risk, I don't think most OBs would mention it...
[ Reply | Options ]08.11.08, 02:07 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Vbac is so much better.
[ Reply | Options ]08.11.08, 02:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] c-section moms: would you consider a vbac? under what circumstances? 13 replies
- for any reason that was unlikely to repeat itself (e.g. breach or some random emergency during labor) then I would definitely consider a vbac for this one. For me though, I had to have a c-s after 30 hrs of labor and 3 hours of pushing because...
- Why would anyone want to have a VBAC? I've already got the scar from the first C-section, and I thought a C-section wasn't that hard to recover from....
Talk : : August 11, 2008
c-section moms: would you consider a vbac? under what circumstances?
13 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]08.11.08, 08:04 AM [ Flag ]I had one. I didn't want to have another section, and I knew I would have less help the second time around. it went very well, and I felt really good almost immeidately. I was able to carry my 2 yo, go up stairs, etc. I highly recommend it if you are a good candidate.
[ Reply | Options ]08.11.08, 08:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]of course I would. In fact, I should have. But my first C-section was because the baby was very large and the doctors thought the same about #2. turns out, #2 was over a pound less and had a tiny head. who knew. i'd try for a vbac... if you end up with a section, at least you tried.
[ Reply | Options ]08.11.08, 08:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]size of baby is no longer a recommended reason for a c-section
[ Reply | Options ]09.21.08, 05:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]My baby was average in size but I was to small to deliver. Narrow hips (front to back) and only 5cm dilated after 2 days of labor. Lost the baby's heart beat but they resuscitated her. I decided to get the c-s as soon as her heart started back up. I didn't want to lose her. So, big baby is a relative term.
[ Reply | Options ]09.21.08, 06:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I wouldn't consider a repeat c!! I did have a vbac. It was wonderful.
[ Reply | Options ]08.11.08, 08:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Ditto.
[ Reply | Options ]08.11.08, 12:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I considered it, but opted for repeat section. The first section was an emergency and pretty terrifying--really did not want to repeat it.
[ Reply | Options ]08.11.08, 08:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]yes. my doctor told me it wouldn't be a problem. i was planning on trying it and will probably try it next time (assuming i don't have the same problem as i did that caused my other c)
[ Reply | Options ]08.11.08, 12:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]If my first c-s had been for any reason that was unlikely to repeat itself (e.g. breach or some random emergency during labor) then I would definitely consider a vbac for this one. For me though, I had to have a c-s after 30 hrs of labor and 3 hours of pushing because DS got stuck; OB told me that I had a narrow pelvic opening and given the size of ds (9 lbs+) this would liekly have happened anyway. It was so traumatic, that I'm just not willing to risk that experience again even though I hated having c-s.
[ Reply | Options ]08.11.08, 01:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I think this makes sense. I have a bunch of fibroids, so the placement makes it likely I'd need a cs. But I can see trying if the first was due to randomness
[ Reply | Options ]08.11.08, 02:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Why would anyone want to have a VBAC? I've already got the scar from the first C-section, and I thought a C-section wasn't that hard to recover from. I'm looking forward to a nice, scheduled C-section next time without waiting 30 hours for my cervix to fail to dilate. What's the big deal anyway? Do you win an award if you push the baby out rather than have a C-section? I am very tired with people making more of a big deal about the birth process than about what's really important, how you raise your child for the next 18 (and more) years.
[ Reply | Options ]09.16.08, 10:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]1) Because 1 CS isn't a big deal, but 4 of them are.
[ Reply | Options ]09.21.08, 05:00 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]vaginal birth is better for the baby and mom
[ Reply | Options ]09.21.08, 05:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] We're TTC'ing #2 and I want to VBAC. Anyone have any providers to recommend? Home bir... 31 replies
- about OBs generally are that first trimester they agree VBAC is a great option. Second trimester they start mentioning...
- interesting, someone recommended her Mt Sinai VBAC OB to me. I also know someone who VBACed...protocols. OBs and hospitals protect themselves against lawsuits, since vbacs are now considered "risky," though of course they are...
- I just had a successful VBAC in february at NYU, with spring obgyn (drs flagg...
Talk : : August 09, 2008
We're TTC'ing #2 and I want to VBAC. Anyone have any providers to recommend? Home birth isn't an option, don't suggest it. I live in Queens but I'm thinking I'll go into Manhattan (my sister lives there, so I could use her place as a base). All the Queens hospitals seem to suck. If I go CNM I want one who isn't supercrunchy and won't bail if I end up choosing the epidural. Other requirements are some flexibility on monitoring (I'm willing to use the CTG, but not be strapped down) and good breastfeeding support, especially for jaundiced babies (I have a high chance of another one). #1 (emergency section for preeclampsia) was not born in NYC so I have no background at all.
31 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]08.09.08, 06:36 PM [ Flag ]I live in CT, so can't help with provider recs. However, having had an unsuccessful and a successful VBAC, I can give some advice. First of all, highly recommend going the midwife route. I ended up having an epi towards the end of my labor and my midwife was fine with it -- I was disappointed in myself and she made me feel a lot better. Most stories I hear about OBs generally are that first trimester they agree VBAC is a great option. Second trimester they start mentioning some problems that might occur. And third trimester, they really think it's not a good option for you. Another thing that is critical IME is that the OB backup is as committed to your VBAC as the midwives. In the end, they will have the final say and my first VBAC attempt the OBs were the ones who got antsy and pulled the plug and went c/s (I was at 9cm). My second and successfull VBAC, the OB was just as wonderful as the m/w and did not suddenly try to manage my care. He was just checking in on us from time to time.
[ Reply | Options ]08.09.08, 06:59 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]You're asking too much--need to be in L&D for an epidural, and need to home birth if you don't want monitoring with a vbac (monitoring and iv fluids are generally insisted on for this). My advice: Pick an OB at St. Lukes Roosevelt, hire a doula, and labor at home so that the epidural and monitoring come at the end.
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 01:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I agree with this advice. Signed, homebirth VBAC mom.
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 02:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Wow. I am impressed that you did home vbac. Were you nervous? -OR above (hospital vbac--no drugs, but still...)
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 02:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]No, I'm not being snarky but I would have been more nervous in the hospital. I had an amazing midwife with every possible tool with her and a hospital to transfer to if it was needed (and it wasn't). It's the hospital that contains most of the dangers when it comes to successful vbac--induction/augmentation drugs, epidurals, monitoring, limited mobility, pressured time frames, etc. Wasn't interested in any of that.
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 03:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]That's great--I'm so glad for you. I wouldn't have had the guts to do it.
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 04:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I know some monitoring is required. That's not a problem. I don't expect most hospital providers to be willing to do occasional doppler checks on a VBAC. What I do not want is to be strapped down and on the CTG the entire time (I was on it for hours at a time last time), and I know some providers will work with you on that. (I also know that most VBAC friendly providers will let you have a heplock instead of an IV to make moving easier. This is fine, in fact i would prefer it to ensure I get a good stick.) As I said, home birth is not an option. One, chances are this baby's going to end up under the bili lights. two, I had a large blood loss last time. Three, my nearest hospitals are Flushing and North Shore Manhasset.
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 03:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]most hospitals will require continuous external monitoring, not intermittent monitoring, which is what you're describing.
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 03:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Not quite. Intermittent ascultation is handheld doppler (the studies comparing IA to cEFM used set periods of listening). The important thing with EFM is being able to run the recorded strip, and some OBs/CNMs are flexible about exactly how much time has to be spent on (allowing breaks for you to move, versus truly continuous monitoring). Again, EFM is not the issue, it's never being allowed off that I don't want. I know this is possible because I know people who have done it. Also, some hospitals have telemetry monitoring, which would make life a lot easier.
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 04:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Continuous monitoring is protocol in a hospital vbac. Where I delivered, I was lucky enough to have a room with telemetry, but if you get one that doesn't, you are "tied" to the bed. No hospital I've heard of has telemetry in all the rooms, if in any at all. Also, most OBs will NOT let you have a heplock because they need to get two bags of fluids in you before they can give you an epi or a spinal, and if you need an emergency c, you need that anaesthesia (they don't like to use general because it's riskier, not because they give a crap if you're concious for the birth or not).
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 04:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Yes, I'd need the IV if I did have the epidural. No question. But, as I understand it, if I don't want the epidural, I don't need the fluids and the heplock is fine. I'm not set on either epidural or unmedicated--I just want a provider that will support my choice either way. Look, I have to make the best of the situation that I'm in, which is that I need a hospital L&D birth. So please, don't tell me how it's impossible and I just need to do it at home, because I do know people who say their providers worked with them. If I were saying "I don't ever want to be monitored, I don't want the IV line in ever, I don't want the nurses touching me" then hell yeah, that would be unrealistic. I'm not asking that.
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 04:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Ug. All I'm saying is that if you have a hospital vbac (as I did), there are LOTS of protocols. OBs and hospitals protect themselves against lawsuits, since vbacs are now considered "risky," though of course they are no more so than a repeat c. You have to follow the rules. If you don't want an epi, you pretty much have to walk into the hospital fully dilated, as I did (and I still got stuck with the fluids). Otherwise, it's protocol, and you'll get it--and the fluids, and the monitoring. Just hire a doula, and stay home until you're in transition, and you'll get what you want. Go to the hospital in active labor, and you won't--no matter who your OB is.
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 04:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]However, I'm also asking about midwives--and they're less big on the epidural. Again, I'm not going to get one who says "fine! You don't need any monitoring, go sit in the Jacuzzi". Not only unrealistic but not very safe for a VBAC. But I do know I can get one who will say "you can have a break, get up, stretch". Do you see what I'm getting at here? I'm not asking for a home birth in the hospital, I'm asking for a provider with enough sensitivity to understand that I had a very bad experience last time.
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 04:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Oh, and you certainly don't need prophylactic fluids "just in case"--I should know as I managed a CS under combined spinal-epidural last time without having an IV in before they wheeled me into the OR!
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 04:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Also, since I can't HB and no birth centers will take me (in or out of hospital) L&D is my only option anyway. VBACs are banned from the SLR BC, and I've yet to hear (from reading posts here and elsewhere) that their regular L&D is so much better than, say, St Vincent's or even Mt Sinai (where several people I know VBACed).
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 03:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Mt. Sinai is one of the worst places to try to vbac unless you're with Jacki Worth and her practice. St. Vincent's you have a much better chance with.
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 03:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]interesting, someone recommended her Mt Sinai VBAC OB to me. I also know someone who VBACed there a few weeks ago--with the MFM team and a forceps delivery no less. She didn't want to go unmedicated, though.
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 04:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
i use a doctor who has offices in manhattan and queens. i had a c-section last time and he said there's no reason for me not to try a vbac. there are a couple of drawbacks, one of which is that the hospital he uses is not very close to queens.
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 01:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Not to be snarky, but considering the circumstances of your first delivery (the preeclampsia) aren't you at all worried about complications? Signed, mom who had perfectly easily delivery with no drugs for #1...unexpected emergency delivery at 32 weeks with lots of complications for poor db.
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 04:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Not particularly. Preeclampsia has a 20% recurrence rate, which means I'd be a damn fool if I weren't monitored for it, but it would also be ridiculous to plan as if it were going to happen again. In my case it developed at 38 weeks and would never have resulted in a section if it had been correctly managed. Like, if my consultant OB hadn't said at 36 weeks "you don't need to see me again till 40 weeks".
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 04:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I had a great v-bac with Seth Finkelstein. His office is in Manhattan, but he delivers at NY Hospital Flushing and Lenox Hill.
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 04:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I don't think Lenox Hill allows vbac anymore. -np
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 04:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Really? Mine was in December. If they changed policies, it was recent.
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 04:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
i had 2 c's (dc's were both breach). my 2nd dc was pretty severely jaundiced and they almost wouldn't release dc to me. I delivered both kids at slr. i found them to be really helpful with the bf (no lc but nurses knew a fair amt, had nursed their own kids, had exp with trying to get latch right and getting milk supply after a c). the jaundice ended up being fine, I sort of forget exactly what was done to be honest at this point, but dc came home with me (phew)
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 04:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Had a GREAT VBAC with CBS midwives -- they deliver at SLR.
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 05:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np- DR Rhee is mentioned on here. Her group take VBAC's at SLR
[ Reply | Options ]08.10.08, 05:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Interesting. I looked at them but they say only 3 VBAC attempts last year, only 1 successful. How was SLR otherwise? Do they have mandatory nursery stays?
[ Reply | Options ]08.11.08, 05:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]they do not. my baby roomed in almost continuously after the initial check and bath in the nrsery, adn they delayed that until after seh had fed and I was OK with it. i had an exceletn drug free birth in SLR L&D.
[ Reply | Options ]08.14.08, 03:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I just had a successful VBAC in february at NYU, with spring obgyn (drs flagg, maldonado, etc). to some of your points/questions: 1) I could not use the midwife in the practice because she doesn't do VBACs. 2) They said I could have had a heplock instead of IV, but then I tested GBS+ so had to get IV with penicillin. 3) I had continuous external monitoring but I was not confined to the bed - I was able to get up, sit on birthing ball, walk around, etc. They just kept coming back and fussing with the belts, because I was constantly shifting them and they'd lose the signal, and I couldn't get too far away from the machine - my walking was pretty confined. but I did NOT have to just lie there on the bed. 3) my OB asked that I get the epidural cath placed as soon as I arrived at the hospital, so that I could avoid general anesthesia if I had to have an emergency C. I was fine with that, although I hated the process of getting it in, and a needle in your spine with no drugs coming through to numb it is pretty uncomfortable. but it was OK - mostly just achy. and I had plenty of other pain to distract me. 4) the nursing staff at NYU was EXCELLENT - wonderful breastfeeding support, great care. huuuuugely different from my last birth at st vincents, where when I asked to see a lactation consultant the nurse said "why?" and told me I didn't need one. 5) I hired a doula, who I thought was pretty irritating as a person, but did an excellent job in terms of expertise and imparting confidence to me. I didn't mind that she was not someone I wanted to hang out with, because I just wanted a professional who had VBAC experience. but I know most people want a doula they click with more on a personal level. the doula I hired was deborah badran.
[ Reply | Options ]08.12.08, 08:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Did you feel that the drs at Spring were supportive of your vbac? Anyone in particular? How about the staff at NYU? Were you allowed to go past your due date (if you didn't go earlier on your own)? Did you request not to be on cefm? Sorry for all the questions and congrats on your vbac.
[ Reply | Options ]08.15.08, 04:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]This is so wonderful to hear, I am preg with #2 and had my first via CS at St. Vincent's with Dr. Maldonado. The very first thing she said to me the next day was that if I was planning to have another I should go straight to CS, it was not an emergency and a very comfortable 24 labor prior. She said I just stopped dilating after about 7+. I am committed to doing a VBAC this time and so far the midwife at spring obgyn is supportive, about to see Maldonado again this week. Worried they will try to convince me to do a CS. Perhaps the doula is the way to go?
[ Reply | Options ]09.07.08, 09:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] After giving birth did you thank your dr/s or nurses in the hospital? If so, how? 16 replies
- wow you are me EXACTLY! Except mine was 7 lb 12 oz. Definitely doing a VBAC next time....
Talk : : August 07, 2008
After giving birth did you thank your dr/s or nurses in the hospital? If so, how?
16 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]08.07.08, 12:45 PM [ Flag ]no
[ Reply | Options ]08.07.08, 12:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]"thank you!"
[ Reply | Options ]08.07.08, 12:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]thanks so much for railroading me into that induction by telling me my baby was 9 lbs! Here she is, by the way, doing great at 7 lbs 1 oz, thanks! Oh, no problem that the horribly painful induction and early epidural led to a section. Here's a plate of cookies. Enjoy Boca this winter!
[ Reply | Options ]08.07.08, 12:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Yikes!!! Sorry for your terrible experience
[ Reply | Options ]08.07.08, 12:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]oh jeez i'm sorry about all that. what a bummer. this makes me think more about home birth.
[ Reply | Options ]08.07.08, 12:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]it's the best. I had my second at home :-)
[ Reply | Options ]08.07.08, 12:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]this makes me happy to hear! this is how i plan on doing it. did you haev a midwife or doula or was it just you and dh?
[ Reply | Options ]08.07.08, 12:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]no, I wouldn't do unassisted. We had a certified nurse midwife, and a doula. We also had our older child there!
[ Reply | Options ]08.07.08, 01:00 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
wow you are me EXACTLY! Except mine was 7 lb 12 oz. Definitely doing a VBAC next time.
[ Reply | Options ]08.07.08, 12:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Yes. We had a running joke with the Dr about Crocs, so we bought her two pairs. Also, gave the head nurse a $250 gift card (DB was in NICU for 2 weeks)
[ Reply | Options ]08.07.08, 12:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I freaked my doctor out by hugging him. There were some potential complications with my son and he handled everything beautifully. When we got the genetic "all-clear" I grabbed him in a big hug.
[ Reply | Options ]08.07.08, 12:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I got my doctor a Fauchon gift basket. I felt very close with her and she did a great job.
[ Reply | Options ]08.07.08, 01:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Thanked my doctor and his staff, but not the hospital staff. The nurses sucked.
[ Reply | Options ]08.07.08, 01:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]perfect gift, after my first daughter, to the nurses and my doctor - a woman!- this dvd "the story of mothers and daughters" i've watched it many times since myself (got it for my mom too) www.thestoryofmothersanddaughters.com And what i did was ask for a discount for buying 4 and saved $4 each - they were very sweet about it.
[ Reply | Options ]08.09.08, 03:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]SPAM......this is the second time this was posted!
[ Reply | Options ]08.09.08, 04:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]ewww. thanks for the alert. How gross.
[ Reply | Options ]08.09.08, 05:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Can anyone recommend a good doctor in NYC who is supportive of VBAC? My current OB is... 15 replies
- just curious but why is a VBAC important to you? (Not in NYC so I have no...them and had a good experience. Wasn't a VBAC, but found the group genuinely supportive of birth...
- ^^NYPH. I attempted a vbac but did not progress. she was very supportive...that a c-section for reasons that would make VBAC risky?...
- you consider using a midwife? I had my VBAC in a hospital (not NYC) with midwives who...
Talk : : August 06, 2008
Can anyone recommend a good doctor in NYC who is supportive of VBAC? My current OB is pushing for a c-section and I would like to give a VBAC a try. Of course, if it fails, I would like the doctor/hostpital to be good at handling emergency c-sections. Thanks for your suggestions
15 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]08.06.08, 01:29 PM [ Flag ]just curious but why is a VBAC important to you? (Not in NYC so I have no recomendations) Just always wonder about that
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 01:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Certin benefits for the baby to have gone through labor - There are benefits even if a c-sction is ultimately performed. The labor process releases stress hormones that have apositive impact on respiratory function. Also, each c-section makes it much riskier to have additional children.
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 01:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]thanks. I opted for a repeat C but that seemed like the best option for me. GL either way ;-)
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 01:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
In another context, would you consider it odd if someone said it was important to them to avoid surgery if medically possible?
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 01:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Dr. Rhee's group is supposed to be supportive of VBAC. (I delivered with them and had a good experience. Wasn't a VBAC, but found the group genuinely supportive of birth "choices" generally, which is rare in NYC.) They deliver at SLR.
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 01:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]NP: I'm delivering there (SLR) in the next week or so, God Willing! I am very hapy with the Rhee group, I'm finally meeting all of them. Who delivered your baby?
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 01:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]DS is 3 - Alice Lee was with the practice when I delivered him and she was my main doctor. But Dr. Bradley was on call for most of my delivery and I liked her a lot. Is she back from maternity leave?
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 01:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Bradley is pregnant now, and still around the office, I saw her walking around the office last week. Lee is not there anymore, its Oliveras and Huang.
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 02:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]when is dr. bradley due?
[ Reply | Options ]08.09.08, 08:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 01:36 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]^^NYPH. I attempted a vbac but did not progress. she was very supportive and a great doc.
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 01:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Thank you.
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 01:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Did current OB deliver #1 and was that a c-section for reasons that would make VBAC risky?
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 02:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]jay bauman.
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 02:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Would you consider using a midwife? I had my VBAC in a hospital (not NYC) with midwives who were wonderful and so critical to my success! They also had great OB backup (all CNMs do) and it would have been no problem to have an emerg c/s if it had been necessary.
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 02:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Can anyone recommend a good doctor in NYC who is supportive of VBAC? My current OB is...
Talk : : August 06, 2008
Can anyone recommend a good doctor in NYC who is supportive of VBAC? My current OB is pushing for a c-section and I would like to give a VBAC a try. Of course, if it fails, I would like the doctor/hostpital to be good at handling emergency c-sections. Thanks for your suggestions
[ Reply | Watch | Options ]08.06.08, 01:29 PM [ Flag ]
[+] Has anyone had VBAC at Cornell with Dr. Kalish? When I first went to her I mentioned... 15 replies
- , labor as long as you can at home--a VBAC is always more likely to be successful the less...? Asked whether you are a candidate for a VBAC and if not, why not? Can you try?...wanting a C-section and your reasons for wanting a VBAC and see what happens. I'm pretty sure that...unsupportive in teh end. If you really want a VBAC, you'll likely need to switch out of an unsupportive group. Signed, happy and supported VBAC mom...
Talk : : August 06, 2008
Has anyone had VBAC at Cornell with Dr. Kalish? When I first went to her I mentioned I may want to have a VBAC, but as delivery time is getting closer, she is pushing to schedule a C-section just prior to 39 weeks. As of yet, I don't have any additional risk factors that may ocmplicate VBAC (diabetes, previous ruptions, etc.) and want to at least give VBAC a try, but hate that it seems I ave to force the idea on my OB. Any suggestions?
15 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]08.06.08, 10:30 AM [ Flag ]i think it's fair to say that you'll wait for labor and give yourself a chance. they should respect that.
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 11:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Oy. Scheduled c-s prior to 39 weeks? That is NOT a vbac-friendly doc. If switching providers is not an option, I would just really hold fast and say you're not agreeing to a scheduled c/s without medical reason. When you go into labor, labor as long as you can at home--a VBAC is always more likely to be successful the less it is intervened with. Stay off the monitor until the last possible moment (de facto, labor at home as long as you can). Good luck.
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 11:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Why did you choose Kalish in the first place? Isn't she with a high risk practice? I imagine she does lots of Csections as a result. Why did you have a C the first time?
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 11:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]and... have you spoken with her? Asked whether you are a candidate for a VBAC and if not, why not? Can you try? Because I'm pretty sure none of us are going to be in the delivery room with you... Good luck getting a healthy baby, which of course is the point.
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 11:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I think you should talk to her about her reasons for wanting a C-section and your reasons for wanting a VBAC and see what happens. I'm pretty sure that she is part of a group where you will be delivered by whomever is on call and not her personally (unless she's on call) so it's unlikely about her own convenience. I think you need to start a dialogue about it. Why did you have a C-section last time?
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 11:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I had a large baby 10 lbs, 7 oz. Went into labor (very weak labor, contractions not strong) and after 24 hours doctor said it was time to do C-section. The baby was not in distress.
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 01:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]had the baby moved down? as in, do you think baby could fit through your pelvis, or was that a reason labor didn't progress?
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 01:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
This is NOT uncommon. So many OB's seem fine, if noncommittal in the beginning, but are unsupportive in teh end. If you really want a VBAC, you'll likely need to switch out of an unsupportive group. Signed, happy and supported VBAC mom
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 11:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]me too and... switched from an OB practice that pulled this same shit with me to a homebirth midwife.
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 11:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Great for you! I also switched to midwives but had a hospital birth.
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 11:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I think midwives are the key in any setting :-)
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 01:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
kalish is a highly qualified SURGEON. she's always going to suggest you err on the side of caution. She's fantastic in the OR. I had to have a c (prior c, twins) and i thank goodness itwas her. that said she's also intelligent and cool so i'm sure she'll work with you. just don't expect it to be her 1st choice.
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 12:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]every OB is a surgeon. It's a surgical specialty. Are you implying that all OBs are going to push surgery? because if you are, then for the most part, you're right. Somehow I suspect that wasn't your point.
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 01:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]in fact it was my point. and as a high risk ob, kalish does more surgery than most.
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 05:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I had Kalish for my first dc, which ended in section for ROM >24 hrs, FTP, maternal fever etc. Not really sure...got augmentation around 9 hrs in and that precipitated an epi, and it all went downhill from there....yadda yadda.
[ Reply | Options ]08.12.08, 12:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Has anyone had VBAC at Cornell with Dr. Kalish? When I first went to her I mentioned... 2 replies
- I had a consultation with Kalish and didn't go to her because she wasn't as pro vbac as I wanted. That said, I know people who've had unmedicated births with her, which you wouldn'...if you stand your ground, she will come around. A few words of advice: GET A DOULA. VBAC won't happen if you don't. Ask her who she recommends as a doula, and chances...if things don't work out as planned and you DO end up needed another c/s. Also, vbac is sooooo worth it. Try and do it!...
Talk : : August 06, 2008
Has anyone had VBAC at Cornell with Dr. Kalish? When I first went to her I mentioned I may want to have a VBAC, but as delivery time is getting closer, she is pushing to schedule a C-section just prior to 39 weeks. As of yet, I don't have any additional risk factors that may ocmplicate VBAC (diabetes, previous ruptions, etc.) and want to at least give VBAC a try, but hate that it seems I ave to force the idea on my OB. Any suggestions?
2 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]08.06.08, 10:30 AM [ Flag ]I had a consultation with Kalish and didn't go to her because she wasn't as pro vbac as I wanted. That said, I know people who've had unmedicated births with her, which you wouldn't think she'd be up for either. I think if you stand your ground, she will come around. A few words of advice: GET A DOULA. VBAC won't happen if you don't. Ask her who she recommends as a doula, and chances are she'll let you guys do your thing.
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 12:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^^ and you'll know you're in great hands if things don't work out as planned and you DO end up needed another c/s. Also, vbac is sooooo worth it. Try and do it!
[ Reply | Options ]08.06.08, 12:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] I know it's not right to want a C-Section, but EVERYONE I spoke to who has had one sa... 76 replies
- Ditto except for the spinal. I had an emergency c/s with #1 and a natural vbac with #2 and the experience the second time was euphoric compared with the first. LOVED my vag delivery, even though I had...
- Go for it, sister! My vbac was the most amazing experience for me. -np...
Talk : : August 03, 2008
I know it's not right to want a C-Section, but EVERYONE I spoke to who has had one said it was much easier then vaginal delivery. I know can't elect one, nor would I, but the thought of it does sound better since they estimate my db at 8lbs already. Flame if you must. I thought because I was petite (5'2") I'd have a much smaller baby, I guess that has nothing to do with it.
76 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]08.03.08, 07:22 PM [ Flag ]Having had one, I can say that it's so NOT easier. Yeah, you're not in labor, but then there's the whole not being able to use your abdominal muscles for 8 weeks, which is a pain (quite literally) if you're b/fing or basically trying to do anything at all. If I had to do it over again, I would've at least attempted vaginal birth. I didn't do it b/c my OB convinced me it would be dangerous, but I found out later that she tries to get ALL her patients to get c/s so she doesn't have to get up in the night to deliver babies. Classy.
[ Reply | Options ]08.03.08, 08:11 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]who was your ob?
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:50 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]I would love to know this, too. Unusual that a female OB would be involved in this kind of bs. -np
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 12:51 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
My OB told me that the insurance companies are always pressuring doctors to do C-sections. Apparently they get fewer claims.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:16 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
I'm 5'2" and gave birth to my 8lb 9oz son vaginally without drugs - hard work but really no big drama. If you ask people who chose door number 2 whether that was the best door to choose, they'll seldom say no...
[ Reply | Options ]08.03.08, 10:06 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]My 5'2" sister was told at 38 weeks that her baby was already over 8 lbs. Her dd was born two weeks later at 6 lbs 10 oz. I wouldn't put too much stock in how big they tell you your baby is now.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 04:40 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]so true. I've heard stories like this dozens of times.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:53 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]yeah, those weight estimates are not only way off, they always seem to be OVERestimated.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:57 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]Not always. My ds measured 7lbs 10oz (+/- 5 oz) at 37 weeks and he was 8lbs 11 oz when he was born a week later.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 08:10 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
Yep, I was told my baby would be more than 10 lbs! She was born 7 lbs. 5 oz.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:15 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]I was told my baby was less than 7, born at 8pds
[ Reply | Options ]08.08.08, 08:32 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
It is a much harder recovery. One only need to walk down a maternity ward to see how much more uncomfortable & in pain c/s moms are.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 04:46 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]Do it! I had vag delivery and my recovery sucked. My mom had 3 c/s and said her recovery was a snap compared to mine. And my l&d was nothing special! Relatively quick. I'm opting for c/s next time I think.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:53 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]you're hideous, as is your advice.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:57 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]"hideous"? huh, i don't get.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:59 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]that's uncalled for. my baby still has a bump on his head from l&d a year later. my friend's sister's baby broke her shoulder in delivery. i think c/s is better for the baby.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:59 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]You are SO WRONG. What is bad for the baby is the overly medicalized, interventive and restrictive management of birth on the typical l&d. You should be comparing that to better management of birth, not surgical delivery.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 06:28 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]there are arguments both ways. there are always instances when it is better to have natural or c/s. don't be such an extremist. it weakens your arguemtn.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 06:47 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]Thanks, but about this, I'm extreme. When I hear such incredibly misguided statements as "c/s is better for the baby" (pretty extreme in its own right, no?) it makes me livid. Women are fighting for the wrong things.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 07:00 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]ITTTTTA. -np
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 12:50 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]Yeah, justifying c/s in this way is preposterous. If the fetus is in distress and there is medical need for a section, fine. Otherwise, you'd have to be a fool to volunteer for elective surgery to circumvent a basic bodily function.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 12:57 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]Not to mention having your db born filled with all those c/s drugs and then having an invalid for a mom for the first few weeks.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 12:59 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]np: I thought a vaginal was better for the baby because the process of coming down the canal forces the lungs to work properly
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:37 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]that's absolutely correct. Contractions and then the trip down the birth canal are very beneficial for the baby. Babies born by c/s have much higher rates of respiratory distress.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:45 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]ITA. My cousin's wife had an elective c-section for her 1st child (totally for convenience) and her baby ended up in the NICU for "breathing issues". Stupid.
[ Reply | Options ]11.22.08, 10:27 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
Who in the world is this EVERYONE? Have they had both?? I've had both a vaginal delivery and a c-section and no way in hell is the surgery easier, that is such bullshit. Not to mention the recovery. I thought the c/s sucked, it was painful, I felt so disconnected from the birth of my child, I was hunched over and in pain afterward and out of it on the meds. Also had a backache for SIX months from the motherf***ing spinal.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:55 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]Ditto except for the spinal. I had an emergency c/s with #1 and a natural vbac with #2 and the experience the second time was euphoric compared with the first. LOVED my vag delivery, even though I had significant tearing, and was back to normal so fast. No comparison at all. Don't be a dolt, OP.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 12:15 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
I had 2 vaginal, non-medicated births. After the 2nd one, I seriously could understand the appeal of a C-section.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:56 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]^^^ I guess my point is, no matter how you do it, birthing a child can be extremely painful, scary, burdensome sometimes, and other times, it can be exhilarating, amazing, one-of-a-kind experience. But we all made this choice, so you just have to deal with the cards you're dealt.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:58 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]Yes, but there is a lot of emphasis and talk about the former - too little about the latter. I make a point of sharing my happy unmedicated vaginal birth stories (hard work, like a massive bowel movement plus menstrual cramps but totally manageable). Tell your good birth and newborn stories to pregnant women. They hear so much fearmongering horror.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 01:00 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]Me too! I encourage everyone to try natural--it really isn't so bad and can be so rewarding.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 01:01 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
One thing to consider is how many children you want. Every section gets harder and exponentially riskier. Also, being 5'2" has nothing to do with anything.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:58 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]I had a c-section 4 months ago and it was no picnic. It is major surgery. Every time I had to get up to tend to the baby, I felt severe pain. I couldn't sleep for almost 3 weeks because lying on my side was painful. The pain meds made me nauseous too. And even though I didn't deliver vaginally, I still leaked urine when I laughed for weeks and sex is still pretty painful. I didn't have a choice about how to deliver b/c of preeclampsia, but it certainly seems like the recovery from a vaginal birth is MUCH easier.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 06:27 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]^^^and I forgot to mention the horrible, constant, pounding headache I had for a week from the spinal.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 06:35 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]I'm so sorry. Next time, try for a vbac--the recovery feels like an absolute picnic comparatively, btdt.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 06:37 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]I've had two c-sections and if I were you I would go for vag. first. I recovered OK after my first C. But my second baby was preemie -- arrived early because the placenta was growing over the old C scar and became compromised. And the second C -- which they gave me because I had had a first C -- was a killer. Almost one year later, parts of my stomach are still numb. I wish I had tried for VBAC.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 06:49 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]The numbness sucks!
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 06:52 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
Thanks, but unfortunately this will be our one and only dc. We may adopt, but I was told not to become pregnant again. The preeclampsia was really out of control and we almost didn't make it. I wish I could have experienced a natural birth (I never even had a labor pain!), but it doesn't look like it is in the cards for us.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 06:50 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
I only have 1 child so far and had a c-section so have nothing to compare it to, but mine was relatively easy. I think I have a high tolerance for pain though and I did not labor before the c-section so did not have the added stress of having gone through hours of contractions/pushing. I was up the first morning walking around and totally able to care for the baby by the time I got home from the hospital. I did have some pain for the first 2 weeks of course, but tylenol took care of it. but to speak to your weight estimate, my dr. told me 2 weeks before I had the c that I'd be lucky if db was 6 lbs. and he turned out to be almost 9 lbs, so maybe don't put too much faith in that estimate!!!!!
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 06:47 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]I am petite like you and DB was est. near 8lbs near the end of my pg. I just assumed it would be a vag birth, although I was worried about getting an episiotomy, but DB wouldn't descend and I ended up getting a C section. Yes it was a painful recovery, but DB was in distress so completely necessary. I wouldn't choose it though, I felt very disconnected during the surgery - it's almost like you are one of those ladies about to be sawed in half in a magician's box with a drape between you and your body. If we have a 2nd DB, I will try VBAC.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 06:53 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]Go for it, sister! My vbac was the most amazing experience for me. -np
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 12:54 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
My c-section was a piece of cake. I think it really depends on the person physically and psychologically. If you have your heart set on a vag delivery or have strong feelings about it then a c-section can be very hard psychologically. Also, I apparently recover from surgery easily. I had very little recovery pain and no residual pain. Some folks have a lot of pain after major surgery and some even have random pain for a long time after. I guess my point is, don't put too much stock in other people's experiences and I hope you end up with the best situation for you.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 06:58 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]I'm 5'3" and petite. I had a 7lb 4 oz baby vaginally. She was posterior so was pretty hard to push out. Baby was also estimated at 8 pounds but I had her a week early. I had some tearing but the recovery was very quick and easy. I was walking around right afterwards and while I had some pain I'm sure it doesn't compare to pain after c/s. I wouldn't opt for a c/s if there was no medical reason to do so. Unless your doctor is concerned you shouldn't be either.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 07:41 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]Same, but 5'4", petite, and had a 8lb 9oz baby vaginally with 30 minutes of pushing. No problems.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 01:00 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
How can EVERYONE who has had a c-section say normal is worse when anyone who has had a c-section most likely has never experienced a normal birth??
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 07:43 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]When I compare my recovery to sisters/friends who delivered vaginally, it is obvious that they had a better experience. The recovery from a c-section is exponentially longer and more painful.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 01:07 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
That happened to my petite sister-in-law her first pregnancy -- too much weight gain + bad ob who doesn't tell you this or care = too big baby. During her second pregnancy she kept her weight down and had a successful VBAC.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 07:45 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]you'll be fine. don't worry....just trust your body (and the epi). besides, those estimates are usually way off anyway. gl.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 08:12 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]I totally understand, I very seriously considered a section with my ds (he's 13 wks) in the end I had a vaginal delivery and in all honestly it really wasn't that bad. Ds was 9lbs so not a small baby! Have the epidural and you will be fine. I know some people do have difficult experiences but I think more often than not it's actually ok but you just don't hear about those stories.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 08:13 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]1) weight estimates are very inaccurate and being 5'3" I had an 8lb, 2oz baby with no problems and 2) c-section is major abdominal surgery, so maybe easier for the labor, but not the recovery and 3) c-section isn't as healthy for the baby
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 08:34 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]My 5'4" sister gave birth to an almost 10lb ds -- your body does what it has to.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 08:47 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]I had both and the c-section sucked big time. It takes so much longer to recover from the surgery. Plus, it is major surgery!
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 12:17 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]i've had two vaginals and one c-section. the second vaginal was by far the easiest of all of them. i think first births are very hard on the body - vaginal or c-section. and i think a good c-section is harder to recover from than a good vaginal. b ut that's just my experience. i don't know if it works that way across the board.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 12:18 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]My first vaginal was a breeze (no drugs). Second was tough because baby had to be rushed out so labor was started with pitocin but I still got him out with out any other meds.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 01:03 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
I'm 5'2" and just had 2nd baby vaginally 7lbs 11 oz w no epi 3 weeks ago and I've been feeling recovered since day 4 or 5. baby #1 was 8lbs 6oz also vag but had medication(epi) took 1 whole week to feel better.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:16 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]that said I think you don't really get to "plan " your delivery very much ( or I would have had the epi w #2) so do what you can and hope for the best. GL
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:19 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
i was you. i wanted a c-section. i ended up having a vaginal delivery and it was fine. i am also 5'5 and small framed. i had a really good experience. the ladies that roomed with me both had c-sections..they were hooked up to machines after, needed help going to the bathroom. they seemed miserable and i was fine as soon as my epi wore off. yeh my vag was sore but it wasn't too bad. percesets helped a lot.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:18 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]^p.s. they usually measure babies inaccurately.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:20 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
I am 5'2 and have had two kids, both nearly 9lbs, vaginally. Both times I was up and about the same day, as soon as the epidural wore off sufficiently, and by the next day, aside from some soreness, I felt totally fine. Everyone has their own thing - for me, feeling great ASAP was an incredible blessing.
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:26 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]I didn't make it to the hospital in time for an epidural the second time around. I never would have planned it that way, but I felt fine about 10 minutes after the birth!
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:39 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
i had a c and if you think being fileted like a flounder is easier that vaginal go ahead and ask for one
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 05:47 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]one of each here--c-section recovery was 100 times worse. . .
[ Reply | Options ]08.04.08, 08:39 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]c-section was a piece of cake...elective and would do it again in a heartbeat. was up and out of hospital after two days.
[ Reply | Options ]08.05.08, 06:18 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]80% of female obgyns elect to have a c-section for their own deliveries. Much less risk for the baby.
[ Reply | Options ]08.05.08, 07:48 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]it's heavily influenced by their inability to take time off. scheduling fits in better with the demands of their practice.
[ Reply | Options ]08.08.08, 07:14 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]It's also because they can't take time off and scheduling surgery is easier for them.
[ Reply | Options ]08.08.08, 07:15 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]It's also easier to fit in with the demands of medical practice. I've done both. CS is not an "easy out".
[ Reply | Options ]08.08.08, 07:16 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]Sorry for the duplicates--Firefox went flaky!
[ Reply | Options ]08.08.08, 07:17 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]That is unbelievable bullshit. You need to back that up with some links right now or you will look like a total dumbass.
[ Reply | Options ]11.22.08, 10:28 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
2 cents. I really enjoyed the experience of being in labor and for some that is all the difference. Yes, it is better for db, yes, the recovery is shorter, however I loved the excitement of the contractions, DH there, baby emerging. It was hard, but exhilarating. My gf who had a cs (medical reasons) hopes that if she goes for #2, she will be able to deliver vaginally for that reason alone. And I did get an epi and worked with a mid-wife. She was wonderful.
[ Reply | Options ]08.08.08, 09:12 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]Don't feel bad - do what you can to schedule a Caesar. What very few of the women on this board will tell you is that delivering vaginally permanently alters your vagina and quite possibly your rectum. All the pregnancy books that say such changes will be imperceptible could not be more wrong. Shame on women and most especially doctors for failing to be open, honest, and direct about the long-term damage birthing a child causes a woman's body. Keep in mind most women who have delivered vaginally would die before admit that anything is different - they'll lie to your face as they cough out their tampons and pee. I guess they feel since they are suffering, so should you. Get a c section if you want to remain continent and tight.
[ Reply | Options ]11.22.08, 06:22 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]I'm very petite and was terrified of labor. I wound up pushing for almost 5 hours because baby was doing very well and everyone thought it would happen; I ended up with a c/s because the baby never came down. it was fine. you have to do what you and your doc are comfortable with and not what people tell you to do. everyone thinks her way was the best. good luck.
[ Reply | Options ]11.22.08, 09:03 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]I had to pipe iin to let you all in on a tiny little overlooked detail. Our bodies were DESIGNED to give birth vaginally. I had a vaginal birth and I have no problem with 'that' area at all and neither does my husband. When I gave birth I told the dostor that no matter what a c-section was out of the question. People have been birthing babies through their vagina's for centuries, that's just how it is. I told my doctor also that any mention of a c-section and I would get a new ob.
[ Reply | Options ]11.22.08, 10:04 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]Sorry but I haven't figured out this site yet and it cut me off mid-post. While I'm all for woman making their own choices I have to point out again that our bodies were designed for this. If every woman suffered from all this crap after birth why would we all lie about it. I have know woman who are quite graphic about their L&D and the changes in their body before and after birth. As mine goes I tore so bad I needed 5 sets of stitches (inside and out) but with the next one I plan to do it the SAME way. I wouldn't lie to anyone about any incontinence, it's just a load of bull. It's better for doctor timing and the biggest reason...doctor's get paid way more for a c-section. I hope one day that they will only give a c-section for emergencies instead of all the other bullshit reasons.
[ Reply | Options ]11.22.08, 10:11 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]Sorry I didn't realize that I was responding to one person's post instead of a general one. I'm so computer stupid - DUH!!!
[ Reply | Options ]11.22.08, 10:14 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
I am 5'2". My first baby was 7lb 5oz. My second was 9lb 6oz. Both were delivered vaginally. I recovered faster from the bigger kid than the smaller. Your height has no bearing on your baby's size, that is ridiculous. I have a friend whose dr induced her early because "Oh, your baby is going to be huge!" and they even made her have a csection for the same inane reason. Guess how big the baby was? 6lbs 5oz. Yeah. Huge baby. Would you choose to have surgery for anything else if you didn't need it? Don't be a wimp.
[ Reply | Options ]11.22.08, 10:25 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
[+] Last c-section I had, my child and I just about died due to anesthesia errors and als... 27 replies
- op: no vbac for me , tried on my second cs, and it was a no...about labors is telling people to get a midwife and do a VBAC (or first natural birth) - its not for everyone!...
- np but the risks of VBAC are higher than repeat C...
- of labor after 2 emergency c-sections. And I am VERY pro vbac (had one myself and loved it). -np...
Talk : : July 30, 2008
Last c-section I had, my child and I just about died due to anesthesia errors and also dr. neglect. I really liked my care up until then, and still am not convinced it was HER fault. Do I use her and talk to her about it, or pick someone else this time?
27 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]07.30.08, 01:12 PM [ Flag ]pick someone else.
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I would go to someone else but I'm sure if you stay with her she will make extra sure nothing bad (under her control) happens. GL
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]good god. pick someone else
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]God, pick someone else, for sure. Pick a midwife and go for a VBAC.
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]why must everyone push this?
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]yeah right--everyone. Except all the doctors and hospitals that won't even allow you to consider it.
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]op: no vbac for me , tried on my second cs, and it was a no go. I have had HORRIBLE labors. I am sure that if I lived a 100 years ago, I would be dead right now. I am not pushing my luck.
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np-c-sections get way more dangerous the more of them you have. By pg #3 your risks of accreta, rupture, hemmorhage, infection and hysterectomy have skyrocketed--did they not go through this with you?
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np but the risks of VBAC are higher than repeat C
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]that is completely inaccurate. There's just no way at all you could look at the available data and reach that conclusion, especially when we're talking about a 3rd section. (Unless, of course, she had a vertical incision, or has some chronic or physiological reason she absolutely cannot give birth vaginally.)
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]well, it's what my ob and my bf's ob said. I'm not a doc so hard to know for sure I guess. Either way, the risks are fairly small
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Here's the thing: OBs have a huge legal motivation to push c-sections. NOT because they are safer (quite the opposite) but because in a medical malpractice lawsuit it is considered the option of last resort and they're always in a better position having done one than not (regardless of whether it would have changed the outcome at all, or for better, or for worse). Women really need to know this and be their own advocates; instead, they worship OBs as infallible.
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I don't worship my OB as infallible, but I do trust her judgement. For me at least, a repeat C was a good choice. I don;t think this is a one size fits all thing
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I agree with you there.
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
ITA with everything you've said about c-sections, but I highly doubt OP is going to find a doctor who will allow her to have a trial of labor after 2 emergency c-sections. And I am VERY pro vbac (had one myself and loved it). -np
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 02:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]you're probably right. But an in-hospital midwife probably would, which is why I suggested that.
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 02:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
it just seems like every UB post about labors is telling people to get a midwife and do a VBAC (or first natural birth) - its not for everyone!
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]yea, reality is wouldn't that be nice, but it is not everyone's choice. People on here don't really want to hear other people's opinions. They just want to hear their opinions validated.
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]HAHAHA. Then they're really ocming to the wrong place, don't you think? Women on here give their opinions and there are certainly PLENTY of pro-epidural, pro-c/s, pro-formula opinions; I'll feel free as a bird to give my own.
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
similar boat. last two pregnancies have had weird situations. one was definitely not the doctor's fault. the other one i'm not so sure, leaning towards not. but i think i'm ready to just start new with someone else.
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]op: don't you feel like they know your history though? This is the only one who has been inside of me. She knows my scar tissue, etc. What a crappy choice huh?
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]She doesn't REMEMBER being in side of you, for goodness' sake. She has the same relationship to the inside of your uterus as any other obstetrical surgeon who can get a glimpse at your chart.
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]LOL--really--do you know how many c/s these doctors do?
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]OR: when you had enough of a situation at your l&d, your doctor remembers it.
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]op: actually she does, b/c like i said I almost dies...that doesn't happen everyday. I am sure she isn't going to remember everything, but she does remember my particular case, my scar tissue, etc. They actually do remember more important things like that
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
this wasn't my first doctor. my previous pregnancies had been smooth sailing compared to these last two. i don't know the right answer, but i'm ready to just start fresh.
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 01:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I just had my 6 wk. postpartum checkup, and my doc had to check her notes for all questions about the specifics of the delivery. They do a LOT of deliveries. She will not remember anything that isn't written in your chart and available for any other doctor to see as well. Switch docs if you want, there will be no difference in terms of one doctor "knowing" you better than another.
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 02:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Was in Prenatal Yoga last week and some women mentioned St. Lukes and some mentioned ... 10 replies
- the birting center is within SLR, it is for women who want unmedicated births. there are some restrictions for use (for women with high rsik pregnancies, no VBACs, etc.)I think you do have to register in advacne. they show it as part of the SLr tour. i delivered at SLR twice and had positive experiences both times, it seems like a nice option if that is what you want....
Talk : : July 28, 2008
Was in Prenatal Yoga last week and some women mentioned St. Lukes and some mentioned Roosevelt Birthing Center as their hospitals... the last woman said I'm at St. Lukes Roosevelt but now wish I was at the Birthing Center. Can anyone shed some light on the difference? If interested in the Birthing Center do I need to register in advance??
10 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]07.28.08, 09:53 AM [ Flag ]the birting center is within SLR, it is for women who want unmedicated births. there are some restrictions for use (for women with high rsik pregnancies, no VBACs, etc.)I think you do have to register in advacne. they show it as part of the SLr tour. i delivered at SLR twice and had positive experiences both times, it seems like a nice option if that is what you want.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 09:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Thank you - very helpful
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]could I have more typos? you are welcome, good luck.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ](who cares about typos - you are probably busy - I appreciate your response)
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
it's one floor down from the regular l&d floor at Roosevelt. Only some of the OBs and midwives deliver there. IMO, it's no contest--unless you're absolutely sure you want the epi, go for the birth center. Of course they find every possible reason to risk you out, which is incredibly frustrating, but at least you have a chance.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]As the above poster says, your OB or midwife has to deliver there, not all do. Also, you need to take a special birthing center class, offered by the SLR Parent & Family Education Center. It's on the 11th floor (1 floor below regular Labor & Delivery)
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ](Hit enter too soon, sorry!) Each room looks a bit like a country hotel room -- regular queen bed, a rocking chair, jacuzzi bath in the room too -- but medical equipment is hidden away behind pictures, etc., in case you need it. Or, if an emergency, they whisk you up a floor to L&D. You have to be a low-risk pregnancy, and you can't be more than 6 days late. I delivered my son there 3 1/2 years ago, and will (hopefully) deliver #2 there in a couple of weeks. It's a wonderful (for me) combination of hospital and home/natural birth if you want a completely unmedicated delivery with no medical intervensions. Another benefit -- 1 nurse for every 2 patients in the birthing center, and you're usually on your way home in a day. Anyway, you can learn more here: http://www.nywomenshealth.com/birthing-center-st-lukes-hospital-new-york.htm
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]all very good information. I am using Oxford insurance - does the Birthing Center take insurance?
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 11:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I had Oxford when I delivered my son. Yes, same insurance and billing process as the hospital overall (but MUCH less expensive too!) If your plan only pays a percentage, delivering in the birthing center is significantly cheaper. I just got the paperwork to register for the hospital, and the birthing center nightly price was half that of a regular semi-private room in L&D. Don't remember exactly how much (plus your insurance will negotiate it's own rate) but out of pocket it was something like $4800/private room, $4150 semi-private, and $2100 for birthing center.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 12:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]thank you!
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 12:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Is St. Luke's really the only choice if I want a natural birth? I don't want a home b... 101 replies
- I'm not saying no monitoring - I don't want constant monitoring- intermittent monitoring unless there is a problem, but there is no reason for continuous EFM - I'm not planning on induction, nor is this a VBAC so there is no reason for it....
Talk : : July 28, 2008
Is St. Luke's really the only choice if I want a natural birth? I don't want a home birth and seems like most of the hospitals are very quick with medical interventions but maybe I'm wrong. FWIW this will be our first pregnancy. TIA.
101 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]07.28.08, 08:19 AM [ Flag ]you can deliver without meds anywhere, talk to your dr. about what you would like to ideally happen. That said, the birthing center at SLR is a great place.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]It is very hard to deliver naturally at Cornell, I did it but fights every step of the way.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Ditto, but no fights. You just need to make sure OB is on board and get a doula.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 12:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]If OB is busy delivering another patient that won't help you. Doula might, I did not go that route.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 12:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]get a doula that has been to Cornell before and a dr. that supports natural childbirth. You might even ask your dr. for a doula recommendation. Def. mention to the dr. very early on that you would like to go that route.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
OP - But if I were delivering at any hospital don't they push induction if you are in labor too long - they want everyone in and out? I don't even want to be hooked up to an IV or EFM during labor - I also don't want to be flat on my back when it comes time to actually deliver.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]you really need to talk to your ob. why don't you want any monitoring? what if there is a health issue? I think it is really important to keep an open mind as your pregnancy progresses.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm not saying no monitoring - I don't want constant monitoring- intermittent monitoring unless there is a problem, but there is no reason for continuous EFM - I'm not planning on induction, nor is this a VBAC so there is no reason for it.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^^ I'm also looking for an OB or midwife - my current one is no longer doing OB and I'm not seeing the partners b/c of other reasons.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I delivered with Dr. gae Rodke--she works with the birthing center and the regular R&D. she's very open minded and will work with you to have the kind of birth you want. again, keep an open mind, we can't always control the process.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP - I know I can't control it, but I can educate myself and make informed decisions as to what interventions I may or may not need. I don't think I am close-minded at all, just a little concerned that the trend, especially in NYC is a very medically oriented birth. Thanks for the Dr. rec. I will definitely look into her!
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 09:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]If you want to avoid induction/pitocin, you should not get to the hospital until labor is well established--no matter where you deliver.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 01:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Sandra Woods CNM is an amazing midwife and has many years affiliation w/the Bithing Center at SLR. We and many others we know, can only give glowing reports about our experiences w/labor and delivery there. Even those whom had compications and moved upstairs to the labor/delivery floor, were accompanied by their midwife.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Sandra Woods delivered my third child and she is the best birth attendant. She is absolutely fantastic.
[ Reply | Options ]07.29.08, 10:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Mine tooand my daughter, whom is on a first name basis with her, hasn't seen her outside of a photo since birth! What a smart, calm, strong person.
[ Reply | Options ]07.29.08, 07:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Hello,
[ Reply | Options ]01.01.09, 03:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Hello, S. Woods will be my midwife and I will deliver at the birthing center. I am curious to know more about how it goes. I am from Europe and am not familiar with the american birthing or insurance 'system'. I have insurance (Cigna) through my employer but have heared that the hospital can sometimes still charge you fees for the delivery... Would anyone be able to inform me about what I should expect financialy? It would be a great help. Thank you!
[ Reply | Options ]01.01.09, 03:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
You might want to start researching midwives they can help you with the docs. I did the wonderful but no more Eliz. Seton Birthing center. Now I'd do home birth (yuck) or SLR - if I could get there in time - I have very short labors)
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Yes in theory you can deliver without meds however you will have to fight very hard with all the nurses and residents when your OB is not there -- some hospitals have a very ingrained birth "meathod" -- speaking for myself at Lenox Hill
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
you dont like st. lukes? its a great hospital btw
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I don't not like St. Luke's - we are actually doing the tour in 3 weeks. It's just far from me and makes DH a bit nervous getting there in labor - I think we will have plenty of time but I've never had a baby so I don't know.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]How far are you? I delivered there (but I asked for drugs ASAP :), not in the birthing center). I toured the birthing center and it does seem good b/c you are at a hospital in case but they make it a little more homey.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Park Slope.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Hmm... yeah, that might be a little far to be honest. Although I needed to be close more b/c I went right into back to back contractions and wanted drugs. If they aren't going to interfere much maybe you can take 45 to get there? But would the OBs be too far? You have to go a lot. My Dr. is on the UWS and that would be a pain for you. (My Dr. is not the right person for you anyway if you are considering natural, trust me).
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I work on the UWS so it shouldn't be too bad for most of the pregnancy, also my GP is on the UWS.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]This is a tough one, but it would work out during the pregnancy really well and then you would have a delivery somewhere designed for you with a safe back up. Plus, friends premies had a great experience there, something else that is always good to know. Can you find an OB and ask them their thoughts?
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]-- also (this is still the same poster), FWIW I am the least crunchy person ever and asked for drugs right away, and was still blown away by how much they rushed the whole birth, gave me pitosin (spelling?) so early and then freaked out about the baby's heart rate (b/c they gave me pitosin, duh!) and then had to use something to pull the baby out. In the regular part of the hospital.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
so why not LICH? know lots of people who've done all-natural deliveries there.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 09:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I never considered it - I have no idea why though - I should do the tour.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 09:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]LICH is okay. Just make sure you get a midwife, not an OB.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Aren't they closing their L&D?
[ Reply | Options ]07.31.08, 04:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]what?? not that I know of. How could a hospital close l&d?
[ Reply | Options ]07.31.08, 05:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I caught something about it on the news at 6am but didn't hear the whole thing - someone must have seen it.
[ Reply | Options ]07.31.08, 10:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
np: I have heard that. (FWIW: I would have my child in the Chinese Restaurant across the street before I would go to LICH again. Except for their prenatal imaging. That department ROCKS!)
[ Reply | Options ]09.03.08, 07:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Not too far. I came from Park Slope, quick delivery too, was fully dilated when I arrived. It was fine. I'd be more concerned about the lack of proper lactation consulting/training in nurses and assistants than anything, there personally. They talk the talk, but don't invest anything into breastefeeding. Cornell is truly more breastfeeding friendly.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I live in Brooklyn and delivered there twice. You should have tome to get there.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Where - that's encouraging.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]brooklyn heights
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I live in Park Slope and delivered at SLR first birth -- you will have pleeenty of time to get there. DO NOT succumb to your DH's wishes to get you there early, that is how many women including my sister-in-law end up with C-sections. The hospital can only let laboring women hang around there taking up precious space for so long, and then they come up with something ("the baby is not coming out fast enough, there must be something wrong")to shepard you into the surgery room. Have your DH watch the documentary "The Business of Being Born".
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]We are planning on watching that soon - he is currently 100% supportive of natural birth and has really begun reading up and doing as much research as possible, but he is still going to be a nervous first time dad so that is where he is concerned.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]they actually sent me HOME in the middle of my eventual 38-hour labor (ended up with a c/s anyway)
[ Reply | Options ]07.29.08, 07:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
If you want a natural birth in a hospital setting I would recommend a labor doula. You can have a natural birth anywhere but it is harder to advocate for it at some places. I had a natural birth at NYU with a doula. The doula helped me stay home for most of labor, which was key to avoiding interventions.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Same story for me but at Cornell. I would never go natural without a doula. The pain is totally manageable, but it's a lot less scary if you have someone there who's been around the block.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 03:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
A friend of mine delivered at Belvedere b/c she wanted that experience. Also had a midwife.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]It's good you realize it will be hard. I'd get a midwife and a doula. SLR is good, even if you get bumped to L&D or are induced, esp. w/ a midwife. I didn't want to home birth either, but after my natural birth induced for being low fluid / low movement at 41.5 weeks (kicked in to a fast labor on Cervidil only, thankfully), I'd consider it, realizing how hard it is to avoid interventions (I planned on birthing center w/ midwife, but you can only use bc up to 41 weeks). I wish there were other good options. That said, I was prepared, and had no problem getting through, neither will you! I hope you have a supportive dh, but look into a doula in any case, and maybe even interview a home birth midwife or two. GL...
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 09:02 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I think a home birth is totally an non-option for me - we are in a building with the thinnest walls ever - I hear people sneezing - I am just not comfortable with it - also - it's too small to feel comfortable for me. If we move before then maybe - but right now no.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 09:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I delivered with no meds at Columbia, hooked up to absolutely nothing, roomed in with baby, breastfed only, husband with me 24 hours a day. The trick is good communication with dr and stay home for as long as you can. Then stay mobile. I would never go anywhere else for birth since that is the tertiary care center for babies. If something goes seriously wrong with a baby, that's where you end up so that's where I'd rather start out.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 09:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Columbia is even farther away from me - I'm in Brooklyn.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 09:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I live in Park Slope and delivered first birth at St Luke's-Roosevelt regular L&D ward normal birth, no meds, drug free, no IV and not on my back BUT, BIG DISCLAIMER: there only way I pulled it off was because I had an ob who guided me throughout labor and made sure I labored at home, in my own tub, using her effective pain amelioration techniques until very late. I delivered less than an hour after arriving at the hospital. I cannot imagine what it would have been like to labor at on that floor. Also the nurse tried to put an IV in me even though it was so late and I was obviosuly fine, but my precious ob wiaved her off. IT IS SLR HOSPITAL POLICY TO PUT AN IV IN YOU NO MATTTER HOW LATE YOU ARRIVE. The post partum nurse the next day could not believe I escaped without an IV. I also did not deliver on my back because I knew others who used my ob and did not deliver on my back, and my ob was ok with that. But there was a medical resident observing in the room, and she had never seen it before, and she sounded surprised that my ob let me get away with it. Your ob is a very very important determining factor as to what kind of birth you can have on the regular L&D ward at SLR. Thanks to my ob, I did it, but she is a rare gem. However, arriving 30 minutes before birth is cutting it too close. I am going to get there earlier next time and climb into one of those wonderful looking tubs in the birth center ** LESSON LEARNED: I AM SIGNING UP FOR THE BIRTH CENTER NEXT TIME. ** My ob delivers there too, so I am all set. Please have talk with your ob and also talk to women who used her to see if you might have a possibility of doing something along the lines of what I did -- otherwise strongly consider signing up for the birth center. (Other hospitals including Columbia Presbyterian have astoundingly horridly low natural birth rates -- you have to do your due diligence into both hospital and ob/midwife.)
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Who is your OB? I would consent to a heplock probably but am really not thrilled with an IV unless I wind up GBS+. I am floored by the statistics I have seen regarding C-section rates in NYC as well as induction rate.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]You really don't have a choice. They won't give you an IV if your doctor is okay with it at SLR and cornell, but you don't have a choice abou the heplock. That's the minimum.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 08:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I ould love the name of your OB, please?
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]First - who is your OB? I would most likely consent to a heplock unless I was GBS+. I am really disturbed by the stats I have seen regarding C-section rates etc. at most NYC hospitals.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:49 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Who's your OB. I would most likely consent to a heplock, unless I was GBS+ then I would do the IV. I am shocked at the stats of NYC hospitals.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]sorry for the triple replies- computer or UB is being wonky!
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 11:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
You can fight the IV, I did twice at Cornell but it was no fun at all. The nurses did not like me one bit.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 11:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I resisted the IV with my first child big time (to no avail) but with child no.3, I asked actually asked for one (in the birthing center). Labor is really hard on the body and an IV is a great thing to give you energy and hydration.
[ Reply | Options ]07.29.08, 10:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I actually want to get hydration energy through foods/liquids which is better for me and the baby.
[ Reply | Options ]07.29.08, 06:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Gatorade Popsicles are great
[ Reply | Options ]07.29.08, 07:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
just curious why you don't want a homebirth? I think it's the way to go if you really don't want any unnecessary interventions. I've attended 100+ births in the city and cannot stress enough how un-free you are in a hospital or even a birth center setting.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^also, if you're dead set on a hospital, have you considered St. Vincent's?
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Why would you recommend St. Vincent's over the birthing center at SLR (other than they are closer to me)?
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 11:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]St V's is the closest thing NYC has to a baby-friendly hospital. No nursery, automatic rooming-in, lactation staff, experience with unmedicated birth, midwives who deliver there, used to be the backup hosp for Elizabeth Seton. It's just decent.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 12:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I posted my reasons above - but basically I am in a smaller apartment (1 small bathroom) with the thinnest walls known to man - I am am not comfortable with my apartment as a birth site right now, I might consider it if we move but that is not likely right now.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Why not SLR birth center??? You have plenty of time to get there.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP - I just wanted to know if that was my only option if I didn't want a home birth, we are touring SLR in August.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]uh, have you read the rest of the thread??
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
are you a doula?
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]yes. Well, pretty much "retired" now since I have two of my own, but yes.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]yes
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]sorry I double-replied, my computer is being fusterating, as my ds says!!
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
P.S. to my previous post -- it is apparently SLR hospital policy (and every other hospital in the city?) to put an IV in you on the regular L&D ward, but presumably not on the birth center floor.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Nope. No IV for me at Columbia. I arrived nearly ready to push. Baby out in 20 minutes. Perfect!
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
i had a great birthing experience (my first) at Roosevelt - in the hospital, not the birthing center. my OB listened to my birthing plan, which included using hypno birthing for as long as possible. i ended up getting an epidural - i was under no illusion that the hypnosis was going completely take away my pain, but i do credit for giving me an extremely easy and fast birthing experience. I started early labor at 6am - was at home, walking, sitting on the birthing ball all while listening to the hypno cd's at 12.30pm i was at the doctor's office who told me i was 8cm and get to the hospital. I had an epidural at 2pm and my dd was born at 6.33pm. The nurse - I think her name was Cindy or Cynthia she was so nice and so helpful and supportive.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]You might want to consider a more effective form of pain relief than hypnobirthing next time. Like an "aquadural" (that is, a tub filled with warm water) and a health care provider ob or midwife (or doula if your ob/midwife cannot be depended upon) who can guide you with other effective tools from her toolbox. Also: an ob who does not tell you to go to the hospital if you are still hours away from birth and can still labor comfortably in your own home.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 02:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I liked how my birth went and would do the same again hypno and and an epidural.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 03:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
P.P.S. Please have your husband take a birthing class or otherwise make him understand that you do NOT want to get to a regular L&D ward early. Your chances of medical intervention or even c-section skyrocket. The other key to me pulling off a normal birth at SLR regular L&D ward was that my husband was fine with me being home until the bitter end, and driving a screaming wife into Manhattan. If yours is not, please strongly consider the birth center (which sounds like it may be the best place for you for a variety of reasons.) There will be plenty of time to get there. Have a great birth!
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm truly hoping that mine will be - he's getting better with more knowledge, we will be taking classes and right now I am reading Henci Goer's book, and he will be too once I am finished. I think the rational side of him will be fine - the emotional new dad side is what I worry about :)
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 11:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I just had my first baby in June at Lenox Hill -- they will push every drug at you and offered me a C/S at the first sign of distress 5 minutes after hooking up the monitor(had a vaginal birth with a perfectly healthy baby btw). Those monitors are more harm than good imho.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 10:49 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]not just iyo--study after study has shown that they increase c/s rates and cause no improvement in outcomes whatsoever.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 11:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]OR - thank you! I can see that the internal monitor is more acurate but the external monitor is not reliable and I cannot BELIEVE that they would jump to a C/S after a clearly incorrect reading. Luckily my OB stepped in and overruled the emergency room OB.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 11:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]The IFM (internal monitor) is a lot more accurate but has major downsides too--limits mobility radically, increases chance of infection, requires rupture of membranes--should never be used routinely. The intermittent external monitor is the best way to go, unfortunately doesn't give as much of a paper trail as the external monitor, which is the downside for liability-minded docs
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 11:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
OP - part of the reason I do not want to be hooked up to one continuously.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 11:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]OR - I was the same as you but I was 41 weeks and baby was not moving on the last sonogram and all my wishes sort of went out the window. It ended up being a very quick and "textbook" labor after the initial monitor issue which I still believe was put on me incorrectly. oh well... baby is super strong and healthy and I only has a tiny rip - cant ask for much better
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 12:07 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]but you can. And the sad thing is that you think you can't. You really, really can.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 12:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]its hard during labor to argue.. of course I have run it over and over in my head since then
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 02:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP - I am worried that if I don't make the right decisions and come up with the right plan now I will wind up going back and saying - "I wish this had happened instead" That's why I am doing all of this planning and research now. I know things can happen during labor/delivery but I want to be as prepared as possible to make the best decisions.
[ Reply | Options ]07.30.08, 06:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I delivered at NYU and Mt. Sinai with no drugs, no IV, intermittend monitoring, squated for delivery -- everything you want. The key is getting you OB on board. If your OB is ok with it, and signs your birth plan, you will be fine. Stay home as long as possible and then give the signed birthing plan to the nurse when you arrive. also, definately take a bradley course and have a labor doula to advocate for you. No one can force an intervention on you. You have to agree to it.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 11:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]SInce I need a new OB anyway, I will make sure to select one based on what I know I want already, however I really want to decide where the best place for me to give birth is based on what I already know I want - if I need a new OB already why not choose one that way - it will narrow down the list for me.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 11:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I totally agree with this except for when the OB only shows up for the last 10 minutes...then you are at the mercy of the residents and attending OB
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 12:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Another book to read is 'Ina May's Guide to Childbirth'.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 02:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Loved that and also the Real Book of Birth, or whatever it's called, by the Realbirth owner.
[ Reply | Options ]07.28.08, 03:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Big Book of Birth, by Erica Lyon
[ Reply | Options ]07.29.08, 06:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
OP - I just bought it, thanks!
[ Reply | Options ]07.29.08, 06:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Hi, your options are SLR (I hear you on being nervous about getting there though. Probably would be plenty of time, but you never know. I delivered my first within minutes of arriving at SLR and never made it to the birthing center because i was ready to push when i arrived and the baby was about to crown--no exaggeration! and i live in chelsea. it was a straight shoot up the WSHway but it was a friday night -- nightclub traffic. The midwives put in my file for my second birth that i am prone to "precipitous labor" and indeed, from first contraction to birth, I delivered my second in less than 2 hours). Choices in Brooklyn include LICH and there is a freestanding birthing center further out, i think south, in brooklyn, near maimonides hospital -- I think? I don't know what it's called. but i believe it's in a townhouse? I did check out LICH, but not the freestanding center since it was too far for me. SLR is definitely the newer/nicer of the two hospital birthing centers. ask a midwife in brooklyn about the freestanding center if you're interested. good luck!
[ Reply | Options ]07.29.08, 07:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]It's called the Brooklyn Birthing center - Maimonides is the B/U hospital.
[ Reply | Options ]07.29.08, 06:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
It really really matters if your OB (and the partners in his practice) are committed to helping you through a natural birth. OBs like that are hard to find, so midwives are a more common choice for woman who really want to do natural. I think the birth attendant matters more than the hospital. I had three kids at Roosevelt (St. Luke's (uptown division) actually did away with the maternity ward, as far as I know). One at L&D, two at the birthing center.
[ Reply | Options ]07.29.08, 10:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]there's brooklyn birthing center. i had dd there and for me it was perfect.
[ Reply | Options ]07.29.08, 07:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]You mean Roosevelt
[ Reply | Options ]08.03.08, 07:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm in EXACTLY the same situation -- first pregnancy, don't want a home birth, don't want the monitors/IV that are standard in most L/D departments. After starting out at Cornell, I changed doctors and moved to the SLR birthing center. It really does seem like the ideal choice, esp. for us slightly more nervous first-time moms. You're in a hospital if you need it, but can move around, take a bath, etc. during labor. I have a midwife who's backed up by a great doctor. Good luck!
[ Reply | Options ]09.03.08, 06:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]You can go to North Central Bronx Hospital. The entire 7th floor is run by midwives. They'll even take you at the last minute -- as a walk-in. The people there are really nice and really competent -- a rare combo in NYC!
[ Reply | Options ]11.18.08, 06:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Did anyone have to have a c-section with their first and then did ok with vbac for th... 5 replies
Talk : : July 25, 2008
Did anyone have to have a c-section with their first and then did ok with vbac for their second? My first didn't progress at all, after days of labor for real, so what are my chances that my second won't budge either? My dd literally never budged after days and days, I don't know if it is like a genetic thing, or if my pelvis was too small etc., doc never told me. what do you think? anyone btdt?
5 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]07.25.08, 04:56 PM [ Flag ]my midwife did a (rather painful) examination of my pelvic opening to get a sense of how large it was since db was estimated to be big. a good gyn or midwife should be able to help you with this.
[ Reply | Options ]07.25.08, 04:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]thank you very much, my midwife was really horrible, i need a new practitioner seriously, do you remember she did with your pelvis? not to get to personal, thank you
[ Reply | Options ]07.25.08, 05:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]she reached in with her hands and felt all around the upper portion of my vagina. very thorough. ahem. and very uncomfortable and somewhat painful, but a relief to hear her assessment that my pelvic opening would be adequate.
[ Reply | Options ]07.25.08, 05:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ok, sounds like i can deal, my midwife manually dilated my cervix throughout labor, after that kind of pain i can deal with anything, thank you very much!
[ Reply | Options ]07.25.08, 05:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]yowsa. yep. you can definitely handle this then. gl to you!!!
[ Reply | Options ]07.25.08, 05:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] I had a wonderful 100% natural VBAC. Anyone interested in having a VBAC, ask away...... 7 replies
- Do you have to wait a certain length of time after your C section before VBAC?...
Talk : : July 25, 2008
I had a wonderful 100% natural VBAC. Anyone interested in having a VBAC, ask away...
7 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]07.25.08, 12:48 PM [ Flag ]what was the reason you had the c-section? was it the same doctor?
[ Reply | Options ]07.25.08, 12:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Different doctor. Bradycardia (low heart rate possibly due to cord wrapped around leg) was the reason for the first C.
[ Reply | Options ]07.26.08, 10:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Me too! Loooooved it.
[ Reply | Options ]07.25.08, 04:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^^ where did you deliver? i was at cornell.
[ Reply | Options ]07.25.08, 04:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm in South Jersey. Delivered at Virtua Voorhees.
[ Reply | Options ]07.26.08, 10:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Do you have to wait a certain length of time after your C section before VBAC?
[ Reply | Options ]07.26.08, 10:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]They say 2 years between births. -OR above
[ Reply | Options ]07.27.08, 08:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] anyone deliver at Southampton Hospital? My OBs are at Cornell, and they do not objec... 10 replies
- i agree this is best advice if its that important to you to try for vbac with your ob. i also think that if you feel you are in labor and...
- I would not have a vbac at Southampton hospital. If there are complications, that is NOT where you want to be--for...going and hightailing it back to Cornell if labor starts or your water breaks. With vbac you don't want to get to the hospital too early anyway--I would leave before...
Talk : : July 25, 2008
anyone deliver at Southampton Hospital? My OBs are at Cornell, and they do not object to my being in the Hamptons on week 36, but I am a little nervous. Worried I may wind up delivering at Southampton hospital, and I had wanted to go for a VBAC. Any thoughts or advice? TIA
10 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]07.25.08, 11:54 AM [ Flag ]why do you think you'll deliver at 36wks?
[ Reply | Options ]07.25.08, 11:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I don't, but you never know.
[ Reply | Options ]07.25.08, 11:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
so stay in nyc if it is that imp to you
[ Reply | Options ]07.25.08, 11:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]not very helpful. Clearly, I'm going. If the result is I wind up delivering there, then so be it. If anyone had any useful advice or could share their experience, that would be helpful.
[ Reply | Options ]07.25.08, 11:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]It will be fine. Just don't stress about it. Most births are completely routine, healthy baby and mom. From what I know (accident in SH 2 years ago), SH hospital is fine.
[ Reply | Options ]07.25.08, 12:00 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]how is this not helpful? if it is that imp to you, stay close to where your ob's will give you what you want. though of course, there are no guarantees either way. just pointing out the obvious really. if you posted to hear what you want to hear, go elsewhere
[ Reply | Options ]07.25.08, 12:00 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]why I start staying away from UB. . .
[ Reply | Options ]07.25.08, 12:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Because she is looking for advice regarding the hospital and you didn't give it to her. Grow up.
[ Reply | Options ]07.25.08, 12:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
i agree this is best advice if its that important to you to try for vbac with your ob. i also think that if you feel you are in labor and its not peak driving hours i would drive home.
[ Reply | Options ]07.25.08, 12:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I would not have a vbac at Southampton hospital. If there are complications, that is NOT where you want to be--for you or for db. Chances of you delivering at 36 weeks are probably very, very slim though. I would plan on going and hightailing it back to Cornell if labor starts or your water breaks. With vbac you don't want to get to the hospital too early anyway--I would leave before the rush hour in both directions, just in case, though, and then it's only 90 minutes.
[ Reply | Options ]07.25.08, 04:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] With my first dc my vag. delivery left me with a tear, 3rd degree episiotomy, pelvic ... 13 replies
- my friend had a c-section and then a VBAC and said that she wasn't really sure which one was "better." I had a C-section with #1 and didn't think the recovery was so bad at all. Will have a c-section in a few months for #2....
Talk : : July 24, 2008
With my first dc my vag. delivery left me with a tear, 3rd degree episiotomy, pelvic floor damage (i. e. leakage) and a bad recovery. With #2, should I opt for a C-section? Is it easier? Seems like it would be.
13 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]07.24.08, 02:28 PM [ Flag ]was there a reason for the damage? large baby, bad position, etc.
[ Reply | Options ]07.24.08, 02:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Yes. large baby and bad position. Should have had a c-section, i think.
[ Reply | Options ]07.24.08, 02:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: maybe wait and see what happens. if this baby is big or in a bad place when you are in labor, then decide. but it is possible this delivery will be a lot easier.
[ Reply | Options ]07.24.08, 02:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I had serious damage with first and certainly should have had a C section. Had a crazy nurse midwife at an HMO and they made me push 9 hours. Had 2 more dcs and neither did any more damage at all, and the deliveries were incredibly easy. Really, arrived at hospital and delivered less than 2 hrs later both times. Tiny tear both times with 2nd and 3rd deliveries, both healed very quickly and had no more probs. The first time my body continued changing for 2 years (it took that long to reach a point where it would not heal any more). For the 2nd and 3rd it took maybe a week or two, but I could barely tell. My guess is the damage is done already and now you get to have easy, relatively painless deliveries with no additional damage. GL to you!
[ Reply | Options ]07.24.08, 09:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]btw I still have some probs bc of the first delivery, but the 2nd and 3rd deliveries did not make anything worse.
[ Reply | Options ]07.24.08, 09:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
How can you opt for a c-section?
[ Reply | Options ]07.24.08, 02:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Doctor said I could if I wanted
[ Reply | Options ]07.24.08, 02:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
my friend had a c-section and then a VBAC and said that she wasn't really sure which one was "better." I had a C-section with #1 and didn't think the recovery was so bad at all. Will have a c-section in a few months for #2.
[ Reply | Options ]07.24.08, 02:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I've treated pelvic floor problems before as a PT and if I were you I would get a C-section (and I'm pretty pro vaginal delivery)
[ Reply | Options ]07.24.08, 03:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I tore with my smallest baby #1. Baby 2 was much bigger and he was almost born in the elevator at the hospital. Shot out like a bar of soap.
[ Reply | Options ]07.24.08, 03:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I've had both--c-section and third degree tear. I would take the tear any day. C-sections are awful operations. Kegels should fix the pelvic floor damage. They did for me.
[ Reply | Options ]07.24.08, 04:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Can you keep baby's size down?
[ Reply | Options ]07.24.08, 08:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Kegels don't fix everything if the tear was really bad and the repair was done wrong. My body is fairly messed up now (won't post TMI but some things are not symmetric and basically not where they should be).Kegels can't fix that.
[ Reply | Options ]07.24.08, 09:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] had a c-section with my twins 2.5 yrs ago. Due w/ #3 next month. Will try for a vba...
Talk : : July 23, 2008
had a c-section with my twins 2.5 yrs ago. Due w/ #3 next month. Will try for a vbac, but might wind up with a csec anyway. Anyone have a csection with a singleton after having a csec w/ twins? Was recovery easier after delivering just one? I had a rough time with the csec after my twins--hoping it will be better this time. TIA
[ Reply | Watch | Options ]07.23.08, 11:15 AM [ Flag ]
[+] How long after your Csection did you conceive? Did you have another Csection or a VB... 1 reply
Talk : : July 23, 2008
How long after your Csection did you conceive? Did you have another Csection or a VBAC?
1 reply [ Reply | Watch | Options ]07.23.08, 10:48 AM [ Flag ]took over a year and a half to conceive. ended up miscarrying. but my doctor said he'd try a vbac.
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] what is TIA? SAHM? WAS? CVS? VBAC? SLR? D&C? BTDT? 22 replies
- TIA thanks in advance, SAHM stay at home mom, VBAC vaginal birth after c-section, BTDT been there done that...
- Thanks In Advance. Stay at Home Mom, CVS is a test when your prg. I cant remember. VBAC=Vaginal Birth After C-section. BTDT-Been there done that...
Talk : : July 23, 2008
what is TIA? SAHM? WAS? CVS? VBAC? SLR? D&C? BTDT?
22 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]07.23.08, 10:28 AM [ Flag ]you don't live in NYC or have kids, correct?
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I thought the same thing, then actually answered...
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Thanks In Advance. Stay at Home Mom, CVS is a test when your prg. I cant remember. VBAC=Vaginal Birth After C-section. BTDT-Been there done that
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Thanks in Advance, Stay at Home Mom, WAS is just was with emphasis, CVS is the test (or drug store), Vaginal Birth after C-section, St. Lukes-Roosevelt, Dilation & Cutterage, Been there done that
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]look at the Abbreviations link on the right side of your screen, under Boards help
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]thanks in advance, stay at home mom, chorionic villus samlping, vagnial birth after delivery, dilation and curettage, been there done that
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Please stop posting multiple variations of the same question. Especially when UB provides a helpful list of abbreviations. Find it!
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]posted multiples of same question by mistake - are you having a bad day?
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Nope. Why do you ask?
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 11:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
TIA thanks in advance, SAHM stay at home mom, VBAC vaginal birth after c-section, BTDT been there done that
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Thank you All !
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]where do you live? do you have kids?
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]UWS NYC - pregnant with my first. find this board to be very helpful so understanding the language is important
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Frankly, I am the first of my friends to get pregnant. I know a few women overseas, and some here that I would not have called for lunch, that have young kids... so new to everything and really looking for good advice
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]welcome! but beware, there are some nasty women on this site at times
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]when are you due?
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]no doubt - but some helpful ones as well. After reading 15 pages straight a week ago I know what to expect (!) Due Dec 24
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Westchester county, first DB this Feb. I'm new too
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Congratulations - perhaps there is a chance to meet some time? is there any way to connect without sharing personal information with the board?
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 10:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]not sure? are you in Westchester area too?
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 11:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]no but UWS is close...
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 11:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]and I would love to see Westchester County... we are considering a move
[ Reply | Options ]07.23.08, 11:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] I'm one of the people who posted about wanting to do a vbac recently. Just wanted to ... 8 replies
- Congrats! give details please. I'm planning a VBAC and have no idea where in this city to start. Just had a chat with midwife at MOM and was slightly horrified at her highly prescriptive language (you...
- not OP, but I had a vbac at home with Miriam Schwarzchild. Amazing....
Talk : : July 20, 2008
I'm one of the people who posted about wanting to do a vbac recently. Just wanted to let the other moms know that it was successful and so much easier than I had imagined it would be. Good luck with yours!
8 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]07.20.08, 12:17 PM [ Flag ]congrats-that's great! would you share your dr's or midwife's name and what hospital and give some details on the experience--if you have any free time to spare.
[ Reply | Options ]07.20.08, 06:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]not OP, but I had a vbac at home with Miriam Schwarzchild. Amazing.
[ Reply | Options ]07.31.08, 06:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
awesome- I am 41 weeks and cs scheduled for this week- i guess my baby doesnt want to be pushe out!
[ Reply | Options ]07.21.08, 12:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Wha?? Why would you think this? You're not even going to give yourself a chance to go into labor?
[ Reply | Options ]07.31.08, 06:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]what is your "guess" based on? the fact that you're still pg at 41 wks which is totally normal?
[ Reply | Options ]07.31.08, 06:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Congrats! give details please. I'm planning a VBAC and have no idea where in this city to start. Just had a chat with midwife at MOM and was slightly horrified at her highly prescriptive language (you must have this, you can't do that etc etc)
[ Reply | Options ]07.31.08, 06:02 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]That's too bad. MOM is usually great. Are you set on Roosevelt, or would you consider somewhere else?
[ Reply | Options ]07.31.08, 06:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
me too!! The labor was hard, but omg the recovery was completely different--soooo much easier and just HAPPIER.
[ Reply | Options ]07.31.08, 06:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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