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Counter Strike 1.6

03rd July 2008, 12:35

Professional admins, now please!

Two days from now, the CounterStrike 1.6-tournament at ESWC Masters will commence. For MYM's Polish CS-team, the event is a culmination of eight intensive days of training. Eight days in Copenhagen, far away from the player's homes. Eight days with tactics, counter-tactics, demo-watching and practice-games.

This amount of training is absolutely necessary. Many of the coming participants in the French event have the same ambitious approach to the training. The training-hours for a top-team in CounterStrike is, if not higher, then at the same level as what professional soccer-players endure.

When the team arrives in France in the weekend, they will face opponents of mixed quality. But none of them have taken the training lightly, and any of those teams could be a potential David for the Polish Goliaths. They might not have the same level in their game, but their preparations will not be short of what the MYM-team has had.

ESWC have the same group of admins each year, which ensures smoother handling of the tournament.

The professionalism amongst the teams has pushed the game to a new level. A level where little details can have detrimental effect on the results. After all we wa't to see which team is the best, not which team has the best computers or knows how to use the rules to their benefit. Thus, it is important that everything surrounding the games is handled professionally.

With the last years developement in prizemoney and professionalism, the tournament organizers have to take the consquence and do theirs to eliminate external elements which can decide the matches.

At the World Cyber Games 2007, the tournament management claimed an unfortunate spotlight, as they made a series of controversial verdicts - to say the least. The volunteer admins, which WCG has a tradition to use, were not aware of the rules, nor had they experience enough with the admin work.

[WCG] Admins placed behind the players were supposed to ease the work -
it didn't, mostly because the admins didn't know what to look for.

While some of the guilt can be placed upon the vaguely formulated rules, there is no excuse for the extremely weak judgement, showcased by the admins.

Take for example eSTRO's continued complaints in their match against the Norwegian MYM-team at the event. While the Koreans had abused the forbidden "duckjump" in a groupstage-match against fnatic, they still filed a complaint when the Norwegians did the same in the Round of 16.

Although eSTRO had already signed the match-result, thus passing on their chance to complain, the admins ruled the signing void, as they claimed the Koreans had been victims to misunderstandings.

Picture by readmore.de

[WCG] Korean admin along with eSTRO and a Korean sponsor representative -
where is the integrity?

Furthermore, the admins also failed to interfere in the disgraceful Quarter-Final between Virtus.Pro and eMazing Gaming, where a fierce fight on words broke out - almost resulting in an on-stage fistfight. GotFrag's lead journalist Jonas 'BSL' Vikan went on to call the event "World sCandal Games" in a feature-article about the many controversies in the tournament.

In recent time, we have seen the ~€ 10,000 tournament at DreamHack Summer almost crash and burn, as the admins failed to keep their schedule. Only quick interaction by HLTV.org's Marc 'Nix0n' Winther avoided a total catastrophe, as the tournament's BYOC-part wasn't even planned on beforehand.

MYM gearing up for a late night at the WGT-tournament at DreamHack.

Despite the Dane's effort to help the WGT-crew, they went on to delay the tournament. When the Grand Final was finally played at 4 AM Tuesday morning, the tournament was more than four hours delayed.

For tournaments with thousands of dollars in the prize-pool that is not acceptable. You have to have professional admins; you can't let amateurs run a professional tournament.

Matthieu Dallon, CEO of Game Services - the company behind the ESWC, has realized that long ago. Gathering a tightly knit team of admins has secured a smooth operation of the last year's tournaments.

For ESWC it has built up a backbone of experienced match-admins, who are all able to handle the stress that is caused by the unavoidable match-conflicts. They are not intimidated by an angry Danny 'zonic' Sorensen or used as a psychological punchingbag by national partners.

For the players, who are returning to these events year after year, it is a safety net. They know that they won't have to face incompetent amateurs who don't know the rules, or are afraid of ruling against a sponsor's wish.

The ESWC crew is a tightly knit unit.

And while most people are still wishing Angel Munoz a very cold winter, his Cyber Professional League had its good points. One of them were the tournament administration. With a thick line under "professional", CPL managed to run a 256-team double-elimination bracket without real delay on more than one occasion.

If Mr. Munoz some day has to make a list of what made his events so successful, he can easily name his admin-crew in one of the top three positions. The smooth execution of the tournaments helped to build the CPL-brand to what it was in both USA and Europe.

Hosting a big tournament is not only about putting in five-digit dollar-prizes for the top positions. The money put into administrating the tournament has to equal the professionalism shown by sponsors, players and surrounds.

After all we don't want a scenario where the professional efforts by the players, are being torn apart by amateur admins who can't cope with their task, do we?

 

 
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(1 week ago)  #1 MYM|Army
Army
How about a dedicated organisation providing the admins against license fees. Like referees in FIFA, or in korean esport KeSPA. There are not that many CS events which collide ( at least not anymore ).
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(1 week ago)  #3 Phil
Phil
I had FIFA in my mind when I was writing this article. Didn't want to use anologies from soccer though, as I think the difference between the sports are too big (in soccer the ref will have multiple actions, whereas in eSport he might only have to review a handful of things during an event).

But I think that this comes down to money. Will the big organizations use the money required to educate and keep the admins for their tournaments? In my eyes they have to.

I'm forever blowing bubbles!
(1 week ago)  #6 NoiR
NoiR
Where do I sign? :)
(1 week ago)  #17 Jupe
Jupe
Dare you!
(1 week ago)  #2 MYM|Nordahl
Nordahl
An admin license would actually be a good idea, and maybe rookie admins shouldn't be thrown into tought matches unsupervised.
I line up my hair perfectly!
(1 week ago)  #4 GKoOBaKsuZ
BaKsuZ
Licensed referees would be a step forward to professionalism imo.
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(1 week ago)  #5 myMYM|vhallee
vhallee
why does that guy wear headphones over a sort of ski mask? low budget competitions excluded indoor heating?
I'll be nicer when you're smarter.
(1 week ago)  #7 MYM|Army
Army
It's his style.
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(1 week ago)  #8 The1Crow
The1Crow
lool vali!
Some ppl come into our lives and quickly go. Some stay ever!
(1 week ago)  #9 myMYM|vhallee
vhallee
then i guess his parents adopted him and his best friend is a domestic animal :(
I'll be nicer when you're smarter.
(1 week ago)  #21 xbokser
xbokser
nOLA FTW
No money in my pocket and a mind full of hate!
(1 week ago)  #10 Perdita
Perdita
How should the thing with the referee license work - I mean who should have interests in something like this with giving money to build up an organisation that is based on external financial sources and the good will of the tournament organisators?
It's good to be bad!
(1 week ago)  #11 MYM|Army
Army
If it's endorsed and required by the top teams, like in KeSPA, then tournament organisers would actually have no big choice if they wanted the top teams to attend.
pobudeczka na bacon i jajeczka
(1 week ago)  #12 pre
pre
"If Mr. Munoz some day has to make a list of what made his events so successful, he can easily name his admin-crew in one of the top three positions. The smooth execution of the tournaments helped to build the CPL-brand to what it was in both USA and Europe."

lol, iirc when I was watching CPL years ago they also often had delays and sometimes you couldn't get ahold of scores and so on and so on. And hey, maybe Mr Munoz was so "succesful" coz he didn't pay out any prizemoney. And btw., the CPL Europe was organised by Turtle Entertainment (ESL), so no wonder this went well ;)

ESL TV
(1 week ago)  #14 Phil
Phil
1. I'm not at all talking about CPL Europe; actually the european events weren't even the best ones. When I talk about CPL in Europe, I talk about the perception of the event amongst the European community (as in CPL was the holy grail back then).

2. I have been covering CPL-events since late 2003, I think I know what I'm talking about when I claim that they have had a bunch of tournaments without problems ;-)

3. Compared to their competitors back then, CPL was light years ahead in terms of admin-work.
Last edited by Phil at 04.07.2008, 08:18

I'm forever blowing bubbles!
(1 week ago)  #13 Nix0n
 
Nice read. The idea with a licensed group of admins used for the majors and other LAN tournaments would not be a too shabby idea. But would it work out?

As I see WCG providing hotel along with meals the entire stay. As something extra, a cash-payback is payed when the event ends, a pay-check if you want. But the traveling fee most of the time eats up the pay-check. Better organization and a more dedicated selection of admins would work out, but who's up for it ?

ESWC got (as you mentioned) their own rock-solid group of admins, then who's left besides WCG who could consider paying for a solid-admin team?

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(1 week ago)  #15 Phil
Phil
With the new directed ESWC has taken, they are going to move the event out of France - maybe each year - removing the benefit of having a solely French admin-team.

Right now it's their benefit that they don't have to pay a fortune to bring those people to their event. If they on the other hand, wants to send the ESWC-circus around the globe, that is going to be costly. And if they shared the expense of paying the admins with KODE5 and WCG, it wouldn't be as expensive.

I'm forever blowing bubbles!
(1 week ago)  #16 _evan
_evan
That same tight knit group is being broken apart as the event finals are being hosted in San Jose, I don't think they were a particularly good example. Games Services' organisational skills has been quite poor with regards to the iPOWER games for example so no one is completely innocent.

The issue is money. Event organisers book an event and turn up a couple of days, if not the day before it's due to start and expect that they can easily pull off an event without any testing or dry runs. If they had more money and weren't on such tight budgets they could book the event for longer and accommodate for any issues, while at the same time increasing coverage potential.

Any tournament which has more than two matches going on at the same time is just amateur. They've no clue about business and shouldn't be running an event in the first place. The admins aren't the issue, they just highlight the deeper problems and a lack of experience all-round.

It's a case of putting your money where your mouth is essentially. I guarantee MYM isn't going to boycott the World Cyber Games this year so why is it even being debated?

eSports I find is quite closed off. Organisations tend to aspire for exclusivity over quality. Would MYM hire me to do some freelance stuff? If the answer is no, then why should ESWC share their admins to other tournaments when they could keep them for themselves and potentially kill the competition in the long run, same principle.
Last edited by _evan at 04.07.2008, 10:33
(1 week ago)  #18 MYM|Army
Army
Pretty negative attitude. I think the example with the CPL has shown what G7 teams are willing to do. However it is not the goal to have a head-against-head situation where people are being forced into things, that's not in the benefit of anybody.

The idea of an administrational crew taking care of major esport events is not so far fetched I believe. You already can see the same shoutcasters, media partners and teams being present at most events - so why not have a experienced admin crew being present that takes care of the tournament for you, like Blizzard has aknowledged by using the WC3L / ESL staff.

Actually the process would be cost sufficient, since the admin crew would be experienced enough to provide your tournament with the most professional environment, exposure and a certainty of minimizing negative feedback to a certain extent, instead of the hired voluntary admins which might drag your tournaments reputation down to a pathetic level - thus ruining your marketing plan, which in the long run is much more costly.

I'm not speaking about a newly formed admin group with a BANG, - you have to use us or no G7 teams would attend. But organisations have to look into if their tournaments are being run smooth and correctly and if not, what solutions to find together with the players on the market.
Last edited by Army at 04.07.2008, 10:58

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(1 week ago)  #19 _evan
_evan
It's realistic not negative, though I'm pessimistic when money is involved in eSports especially when it involves anyone having to spend money. Your view is pretty one-dimensional in a sense, I mean it took how many years for the CPL 'boycott' to happen?

“The idea of an administrational crew taking care of major esport events is not so far fetched I believe. You already can see the same shoutcasters, media partners and teams being present at most events - so why not have a experienced admin crew being present that takes care of the tournament for you, like Blizzard has aknowledged by using the WC3L / ESL staff.”

You see the same shoutcasters because the market is so saturated, there's next to no choice for professional high quality broadcasting so you pick what's available. Failing that just use the old eSports head and get a semi-attractive female player or former player to do interviews, even though they've no skill and have had no training whatsoever.

Blizzard doesn't run tournaments as their primary business, it makes sense for them to outsource their admin crew. It isn't cost effective for eSport companies to outsource personal for their own needs though, and even if there was such a group formed it would only make certain things worse.

New admins would've to work more hours unpaid before they reached the same 'accredited' level as the ESL/WC3L admins, when in fact there's no formal system to gain accreditation or any qualifications and it's entirely self serving. The group benefits from keeping new admins out because there's a finical benefit. Contracts and relationships between the admins and their full-time employers would've to change as well.

The g7 could push something like this through (in theory), especially for the ESWC (San Jose), KODE5 or WCG where multiple squads from the g7 compete. In summary however, what you're suggesting is a short term solution for a long term problem.

You're actually mistaken when it comes to the existing system, if the g7 were responsible for something like this happening then they would've to introduce a non-profit (or at the very least someone who profited equally from each team – but then you've to ask why do the g7 teams have to pay to ensure fairness but someone like roccat [or any none g7 member] doesn't?) member within the group to stop bias.

The best example is probably the FA as they choose, educates, punish and ensures the fitness/skill/fairness of referee's within British football on behalf of the 20 members of the premiership (and lower leagues). It's more democratic and fair, but it would require the g7 to spend money and it just wouldn't happen.
(1 week ago)  #20 _evan
_evan
To add briefly:


A solution where what you're suggesting could work is competitions where only g7 teams compete or tournaments where every team pays equally. Tournaments have no incentive to introduce better admins because it costs money, and it's very doubtful that the g7 teams would shoulder the cost to change the system for the benefit of everyone, if it wasn't for everyone then it would just become a more elaborate system of favouritism and potential corruption.

“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”
(3 days ago)  #25 Malystryx
Malystryx
when will the book be published _evan? XD
Last edited by Malystryx at 08.07.2008, 17:10

Lawrence "SK.Malystryx" Phillips ~ SK Gaming
(3 days ago)  #26 Malystryx
Malystryx
wow double post, mym site suckz0r =[
Last edited by Malystryx at 08.07.2008, 17:10

Lawrence "SK.Malystryx" Phillips ~ SK Gaming
(1 week ago)  #22 MYM|Army
Army
Of course Blizzard's prime business is not to run tournaments, that's not really the point. If it would be, then it would be arguable if the main business of Kode5 or similar companies is to solely run tournaments or rather the marketing and global strategy development, while the actual tournament administration is a low level task which should be done by people with the expertise in the played games.

I do not see it as unrealistic, the formation of a neutral commitee or organisation handling esport matters is actually quite necessary - as necessary as FIFA in football and the juridical entities in the state. Since right now it is a formation of the top tier teams which is ruling on esport related matters - and that can lead in the long run to bias.

KeSPA has a pretty interesting model, which forces tournament organisers to pay license fees to the organisation for the KeSPA teams to participate and the KeSPA referees to maintain the tournament integrity and high level of it. It's maybe not the ideal model, but it is in the right direction.

pobudeczka na bacon i jajeczka
(5 days ago)  #24 _evan
_evan
"Of course Blizzard's prime business is not to run tournaments, that's not really the point."

Yet you justified the validity of a separate administering organisation based on the Blizzard WWI? Please don't mistake what I'm saying, I merely pointed out that your example was bad.

"I do not see it as unrealistic, the formation of a neutral commitee or organisation handling esport matters is actually quite necessary - as necessary as FIFA in football and the juridical entities in the state. Since right now it is a formation of the top tier teams which is ruling on esport related matters - and that can lead in the long run to bias."

I said that...except I do think it's unrealistic and proved why and how difficult it's.

I don't know how KeSPA does it so I'll look into it before commenting further.
(1 week ago)  #23 Doso
Doso
And who is going to pay all these professional admins?

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