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American and Iraqi forces are driving Al-Qaeda in Iraq out of its last redoubt in the north of the country in the culmination of one of the most spectacular victories of the war on terror.
After being forced from its strongholds in the west and centre of Iraq in the past two years, Al-Qaeda’s dwindling band of fighters has made a defiant “last stand” in the northern city of Mosul.
A huge operation to crush the 1,200 fighters who remained from a terrorist force once estimated at more than 12,000 began on May 10.
Operation Lion’s Roar, in which the Iraqi army combined forces with the Americans’ 3rd Armoured Cavalry Regiment, has already resulted in the death of Abu Khalaf, the Al-Qaeda leader, and the capture of more than 1,000 suspects.
The group has been reduced to hit-and-run attacks, including one that killed two off-duty policemen yesterday, and sporadic bombings aimed at killing large numbers of officials and civilians.
Last Friday I joined the 2nd Iraqi Division as it supported local police in a house-to-house search for one such bomb after intelligence pointed to a large explosion today.
Even in the district of Zanjali, previously a hotbed of the insurgency, it was possible to accompany an Iraqi colonel on foot through streets of breeze-block houses studded with bullet holes. Hundreds of houses were searched without resistance but no bomb was found, only 60kg of explosives.
American and Iraqi leaders believe that while it would be premature to write off Al-Qaeda in Iraq, the Sunni group has lost control of its last urban base in Mosul and its remnants have been largely driven into the countryside to the south.
Nouri al-Maliki, Iraq’s prime minister, who has also led a crackdown on the Shi’ite Mahdi Army in Basra and Baghdad in recent months, claimed yesterday that his government had “defeated” terrorism.
“They were intending to besiege Baghdad and control it,” Maliki said. “But thanks to the will of the tribes, security forces, army and all Iraqis, we defeated them.”
The number of foreign fighters coming over the border from Syria to bolster Al-Qaeda’s numbers is thought to have declined to as few as 20 a month, compared with 120 a month at its peak.
Brigadier General Abdullah Abdul, a senior Iraqi commander, said: “We’ve limited their movements with check-points. They are doing small attacks and trying big ones, but they’re mostly not succeeding.”
Major-General Mark Hertling, American commander in the north, said: “I think we’re at the irreversible point.”
Hydro wrote:
"You quote UN resolutions when necessary to bash the regime of Saddam, but what about the resolution the body passed AGAINST the invasion ? ..."
There are no such UN Resolutions passed against the invasion. They are non-existant. However Res 678 justifies the invasion
Ron, Atlnata, US
Bruce, I guess you didn't hear about the 550 metric tons of yellowcake we just transferred out of Iraq. We found it several years ago, during the war, but had to keep it a secret until we could safely get it out. Yellowcake is the main ingredient needed for enriched (fissionable) uranium.
Wayne, Las Vegas,
Right. We've run Al Queda out of Iraq. Quick, let's come home before they get back. Then we can call it a victory, and let the Iraqis stew in their own malice at their home.
Lee, sterling, USA
Since the media thrive on bad news and rarely report the good it's no surprise that most people didn't hear about the successes in the war. Yes, it's a shame that so many people had to die in this war, nearly as many as die on US highways every two months, and less than died on D-Day or at Iwo Jima
Glen, Palm Springs, USA
Many claim that Muslims hate the US because we support Israel. Nuts. They have hated the West for 1400 years. If Charles Martel had not won the Battle of Tours, Europe would be speaking Arabic now. Ferdinand and Isabella drove out the Moors in 1492 and they have wanted to retake Spain ever since
Glen, Palm Springs, USA
Come on Bruce, don't be like that mate. Look at all the cool stuff we nicked.
Not to mention the 15 permanent US military bases under construction. It's an massive unsinkable carrier in the middle of the richest pickings in the third world. Now we can have some real fun.
Marty, Sydney, AU, Greater USA
Bruce, Long Beach, Cal., U.S.A. said: "As a U.S. combat veteran, I still don't think it was worth it, victory or not. There were no WMDs, no connections to terrorism. What have we won? Nothing. "
Bruce, yes you won big - rights to Iraqi oil! No?
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Lim, Johor Bahru, Malaysia
Its nice that some accomplishments are being made by our brave troops. We are giving hope of freedom to others, and hopefully the Iraqi people will continue to step up and protect that given freedom. If not, it was all for not. Either way I am proud of all the US & English troops for their services.
Reta, Turlock, USA
This story has yet to cross an American newswire- talk about shock and awe..
Sean, Springdale, USA
It's nice to see that Iraq has come a full 360 degrees since this war started.
Jeff, Sacramento / CA, USA
So now liberals are trying to argue that nothing good has come from victory. Are you kidding me? The most murderous, unpredictable terrorist-sponsoring dictator on Earth who had hundreds of tons of uranium has been replaced by a free, anti-terrorist democracy in the heart of the Middle East.
Greg, Columbia, MD, USA
I agree that all UN sanctioned wars (Korea, Viet Nam, Bosnia, both Iraq wars) that the US has participated in are unconstitutional and illegal.
Let the Muslims practice self determination. They want to live under Sharia law; let them. But let's not forget our rights for self determination.
Ron, Campbell, USA
I cannot get excited by this supposed 'victory.' Instead of launching into illegal wars with terroists, western governments should be trying to understand WHY so many young men feel such vehement hate towards the west. Until that day, these 'quick fixes' will act as nothing more than band-aids.
Rachael, Oxford, England
It is now clear that any victory in Iraq is of phyrric taint. Afghanistan is out of control. There was no AlQuida
in Iraq be
The US economy is in the shambles. Iraq can not pump enough oil to repay the US, and AlQuida is on the march in Africa, and hundreds of thousands of people are dead.
Elrado Ramsay, Decatur, GA , US
As a U.S. combat veteran, I still don't think it was worth it, victory or not. There were no WMDs, no connections to terrorism. What have we won? Nothing.
I'd rather the dead still be alive, wounded still whole and the trillion $ not spent, even if still pre-2003.
We got victory, let's leave.
Bruce, Long Beach, Cal., U.S.A.
dave, New York, United States.........
The Brits were brave but they were beaten.
Run out of Burma, SE Asia, Europe and on the verge of losing N Africa until Operation Torch and a lot of US hardware. If they leave Rus alone and don't ally with the Japs it's lights out for the UK while wewatch
Todd, Nashville, Indiana
Mark in Knoxville...you would also be the 5th or 6th American to fail a basic history exam . Learn from history or be condemned to repeat it.
david, New York, United States
As a US citizen and veteran I would like to say thanks to the Brits and Ausies who always seem to be there when most needed. Seems this war is finally over. And thanks to the Times because this article will never appear in a newspaper in the US and some of us Anglophiles rely on the Times for news
Fred Jones, Portland OR, USA
God Bless the American GI. The American media however, is pure crap and smarter people know this. The American mainstream media is also in deep financial trouble. Good!!!! We get talk radio and the truth gets out.
Donna, Colorado Springs, USA
to Paul in London...I want to be the 5th or 6th American here to tell you that GB could never have defended itself in Asia, Africa and Europe by its lonesome without the USA
Mark, Knoxville, TN, USA
this is just a reminder of how pointless this war was ,so ask your self , do you feel safe?
ebi, london, united kingdom
Just to answer the Yanks and Ruskies who think their contribution to WW2 was the most important. You both only stood up when attacked and did not act on a point of princible as Britain did!! As for most important! That huge aircraft carrier called Great Britain. Sorry, geography is what it is!!!
STEVE, MIAMI BEACH,
Thanks for putting things in print that American papers are afraid to print, because they fear the truth.
Chuck Tanner, Salt Lake City, USA
I would say one thing, that nobody seems to be saying, and that is that the world cannot wait to help the average Iraqi now.
The sympathy that exists for ordinary people there is immense.
Engineers, builders and ....
What a real chance to help a troubled country get back together again.
andy , stamford, UK
"The real legacy of the Bush administration, high gas prices home forclosure, rising crime, rising unemploment and a crumbling infrastructure." --George, Atlanta, USA
Gee, all that stuff has happened since you elected a DEMOCRATIC majority to congress. Why does Bush get the blame for everything?
Jennifer, Holton, USA
Not only did the Drive by media take every opportunity to give an unfavorable view of the war in Iraq but the Hollywood crowd did their best also.
I dearly thank our soldiers and allies and I pray the government will be there for you and your families when you come home.
Phyllis, Beach Park, USA
Luckily for the world Bush and all his cronies will be out of office soon, The US presidency and both houses will be held by Democrats. Over 70% of the US people are unhappy with this administration,most of the replies here from the US 'right' are not in any way representative of US public opinion
david, New York, United States
I like the comments about drama - you Brits should know all about that! It seems you've forgotten who actually lives in the candid camera society where every flippin move is monitored by your big brother government. I can thus understand your lack of grace and tolerance of your American brethren..
James, Chicago, IL
i wish the US army well in their endeavours. As I do the Iraqi Army.
I have always wanted to be proved wrong on Iraq. Maybe I finally am?
tony, Birmingham, UK
"...we are back where we were in march of 2003 before the war began."
Except Saddam is dead. There's a democratic gov't. It's not a safe haven. No more ethnic cleansing. We've removed uranium. We've killed a bunch of al Qaeda. Women are treated well. Other than that, you're right.
Paul, Atlanta, USA
Thank you this story on the successes of defeating Al Qaeda in Iraq. Too bad the American media ignores and suppresses these stories and that the American political left continue to deny that the US is fighting Al Qaeda in Iraq. A pity that I have to read a European paper for accurate US news.
Scott, Rochester, USA
What is truly a shame is that we've let politicians and
talk show hosts divide us as a nation, as a American,
veteran, and a democrat i welcome any good news
concerning Iraq in hopes that we can some day bring
our young men and women home.
Dave, warren, USA
I am suprised at the ignorance of the comments posted by so many people. Liberal does not = Democrat. Difference of opinion does not = treason. There are many Democrats that are intensely conservative and there are many Republicans that are closeted liberals. The army deserves our praise not Bush
jay, San Diego,
The USA and Britain were the major partners in freeing Iraq,, but all the members of the coalition are to be congratulated.
How sweet when the good guys win one! So sorry for the defeatists.
Will Thompson, Chicago, USA
What is really sad here, is that so many people are truly disappointed whenever good news comes from Iraq. These people predicted that we would have endless chaos and civil war in Iraq, and really feel badly that things are going better. Pessimism on the left is really disgusting.
JC, Moline, USA
What a shame for the ObamaNation that we are suceeding in Iraq. Obama was hoping, praying, and betting his politcal future on defeat at the hands of those who are in turn hoping and praying the ObamaNation is elected.
Doug, Baltimore,
I thank God every single day that John Kerry was not elected president of the United States.
WAY TO GO U.S. MILITARY AND COALITION FORCES! WE ARE PROUD OF YOU! May God continue to bless America!
Mike, Dallas, USA
Thank God that George Bush had the guts to slug it out against all of the liberals who wanted to lose this war so bad. America is great when she confronts evil and destroys it. The left hates America and will continue to justify despotism (Saddam) so long as they can sip mint juleps on the veranda.
Mike Nelson, Santa Paula, USA
Thank God that George Bush had the guts to slug it out against all of the liberals who wanted to lose this war so bad. America is great when she confronts evil and destroys it. The left hates America and will continue to justify despotism (Saddam) so long as they can sip mint juleps on the veranda.
Michael Nelson, Santa Paula, USA
Obama should read this. Of course, he has no time to read or tend to his senate responsibilities.
Will, Ocean City, USA
If the war against radical Islam wasbeing fought by the democrats the outcome would be much different. They seem more concerned about the rights of the terrorists then the americans these savages killed. These liberal democrats have made it more difficult to fight this war instead of helping.
joe, Pittsburgh, USA
It never fails that the left can find defeat in victory. This pathetic crowd doesn't care about freedom for others or even freedom for themselves as long as they are able to go about there own self centered existence. Others be damned - they got their freedom!!
Dave S, Burke, VA, USA
Time for MSM to get with the program....the surge worked and Bush was brilliant in his vision, perserverence and determination. History will be very kind to him but not in the near term. God bless America. Too bad for Pelosi, Kerry, and all the other libs prayed we would lose!
Paul, No. Attleboro, MA
No matter what happens for the good of 35 million Iraqis, the left will have criticism, as if that were ingenius and couldn't be applied to anything. Nothing ever happens perfectly, especially war. If WMD is discovered, or its whereabouts, the left will say it was planted. U.S.defeat is their goal.
robert van der upwich, long beach, ca., usa
Tom McNeill's comment about treason is interesting. It is treason to sell weapons, secrets or make secret deals with enemies in time of war, punishable by death. Even some presidential candidates went over this line and broke this sacred trust.
General Montgomery, London, UK
Problems are still: Will the Shia and Kurds share their riches with the Sunni, or will the Sunni fight for their share, once again?
And what about the other militias?
As far as I'm concerned Iran won, again, without firing a single shot.
W Cowan, Brooklyn, USA
Well done John McCain, well done the US, Iraq and UK military.
Nothing in History has been won without conflict.
Tom Atkins, Chesham, England
America got Bin Laden started, as it did with Ho Chi Minh and Castro and the Shah and Pol Pot and whats his name in Nicaragua and Papa Doc and Noriega and Thatcher and Stroessner and Trujillo and Diem and Pinochet and Begin and...
That's some bunch of good friends all right.
Peter , Armagh,
Kathy in Elburn USA asks a good question. The fact that CNN, MSNBC, The Wall Street Journal, Reuters, AP, etc.have not mentioned this is almost as big a story. Why has this not been reported at the very least by Fox News or The Wall Street Journal? Will The Times please follow this up?
Ralph, Honolulu, Hawaii
Marty Kay Zee, Pasadena, CA, USA says:
"$9,000 billion..."
I say," Billions for defence, not one penny for tribute"
JZ, Crestline, CA, USA
"no more "We saved Europe in WWII" comments. The USSR's role was easily the most significant in the defeat of Nazi Germany."
USSR and Germany planned and started WW2 as ally in 1939 conquering Poland together. Stalin, Hrushev, Gukov agreed, the USA saved USSR. So USA saved Europe and World
Serge, NY, USA
God bless the tenacity and courage of the American Military and also President Bush for his courageous leadership in the face of disparagement from the treasonous voices of the US left. Shame on the Democrats for their politically motivated opposition and the tools of Soros.
Marcy, Chicago, USA
Paul, London,
US History slanted? Ever hear of lend-lease? Didn't think so.
Mary Catherine, Elmhurst, USA
Even little Barak is having to backtrack, and the libs in Congress have egg on their faces. They always desired a loss in Iraq just to advance themselves politically. That is treason. They should all be thrown in prison rather than elected again to Congress.
Tom in Healdton, OK
Tom McNeill, Healdton, OK, USA
Five years of "cowboy diplomacy", 4,500 US soldiers dead,and a mountain of our taxes, OR 30 years of EU and UN talks with countless innocent dead around the world due to a rouge nation. A single question can add this up very quickly. Who would you want to deal with at this time? Iraq OR Iran?
Ernesto, Waterbury VT, USA
David, 1)Thank Carter, the 1970s Obama, for the Islamo-fascist state of Iran 2)Prez of Iran just said, "Why should we make any concessions on our nuclear program until after November" You think this is because he hopes McCain wins? 3)Europe has been handling Iranian negotiations, hence no progress.
Moses, Clearwater, Florida
Libs prefer Saddam to continue to kill his own people (1m+ dead), don't no prefer oil riches going to the people instead of Saddam, prefer WMD to be used on us first (Uranium frm Iraq was just sold to Canada). Propaganda is used by both sides - dictators' existence rely on the Liberal gullibility.
Brad Wilson, San Jose,
Neil from Scotland - You of all people should know what it is like to live under a system where you had no say in the democratic process. Your people were marginalized by England many years ago. Remember one thing - you will find no better friend in the workd than the United States.
Sean
Sean, Los Angeles, CA, USA
I agree with the Righties here! We are doing what we set out to do with the ADDED luxury of knocking off some 20K really bad guys, returning a country of HORROR to its' rightful owners' and removing one of the worst 'killers' of his own people in history. Geez Lefties...and you gotta' problem?
Randy
Randy Shoemaker, Miami, USA
And still it goes on! - the ranting, chest-beating, whooping and "hoo-hoo"-ing from our transatlantic allies. All reeking of internal US politics. Alas, with friends like these....
Neil, Galloway, Scotland
I wonder where all these nay-sayers were when 1/2 million Iraqi children died from malnutrition and disease due to the 'UN Oil for food nonsense' - or where were they when thousands of Kurds were gased by Chemical Ali?
The silence of both the European and American left was deafening then...
Mike, Pasadena, Maryland, USA
David,
In answer to your question about Iran - we say: "NEXT!!!"
FG, Ohio,
I support our troops. All except 2. The commander-in-chief and his vice-chief, ie: Bush and Cheney. Their faith-based defense policy blunders may have caused this country its leadership in the world by bankrupting us with a $9,000 billion debt now due by our Conservative Christian grandchildren.
Marty Kay Zee, Pasadena, CA, USA
Kyle wrote "As long as the GOP keeps power
That is what this election is all about, nothing else.
Keep power at all cost.
George, Pittsburgh, USA
After the USA liberated Iraq, Al-Qaeda made a strategic decision to defeat America there. Al-Qaeda put most of its resources there in the effort and they have been defeated in a great victory for freedom in Iraq and for coalition forces.
John, Concord, USA
So Al-Qaeda's hit a rough patch; maybe its over for them, hopefully. But what about Iran? Few will choose not to argue that our greatest threat is still the Islamic Republic and that its influence has grown exponentially in the last five years. What do Republicans say to that?
David, Glencoe,
Congrats to the USA and the brave Iraqi's who joined us. Reading these comments, I am sad- liberals and those who support Obama seem to hate democracy and gloat over the worsening economy. America is still great though, as long as the GOP keeps power and returns to conservative principles.
Kyle, Detroit, USA
Democrats supporting troops:
Reid: War is lost. Surge has failed.
Kerry: Troops terrorize women/children at night. If you don't study hard you wind up stuck in Iraq.
Durbin: Troops like Nazis.
Murtha: Marines murder innocent civilians.
Pelosi: War is lost. Thanks Iranians for "letting" us win
Michael O'Brien, Seattle, USA
Gee, first I'm hearing of this. It doesn't seem to be reported in the general media. I wonder why oh why is that so?
Kathy, Elburn, USA
Good job. Al-Sadr will be pleased when he runs in the country in a few years and forms an open alliance with Iran.
BB, Pittsburgh,
Great so we have gotten Al Qaeda out of Iraq which means we are back where we were in march of 2003 before the war began. We still need to put the country back together and deal with the growing problem in Afghanistan and Pakistan. we shouldn't declare victory too soon.
Rud, Jackson, USA
This will be buried in the mainstream press. If America had a Democrat president, he would he praised to the skies, given awards, parades and a Nobel Prize. But since Bush is a Republican, our slanted American - and world - media will be silent. The next enemy to defeat is the liberal media!
B. Samuel Davis, MORRIS TOWNSHIP, United States
Great news. When you step back though, what has really happened? We and the Iraqis appear to be routing Al Qaeda Mesopotamia, a terroist organization that did not exist and were not present in Iraq until we invaded. So we have achieved a staus quo ante.
Tim, Williamsport, PA, USA
War on Terror = War on US Constituion
Both Repubs and Dems have supported pouring $800 Bil so far into this war. Both have supported our country ignoring our exsiting laws on search & seizure. Both have given TelCo's immunity for their part.
Osama is still free & winning war on our freedom
dave, Wolverine Lake, USA
US Liberals = British Liberals. Both are born losers.
Now, once again, they make jackasses out of themselves by looking victory in the eye while softly sobbing.
Todd, Nashville, Indiana
forget politics. or "bush lied" for a second... if this is true -- than our military & Iraqis are killing Al Qaeda... defeating them together. The same gang that crashed planes into the WTC. Never forget that. It's taken years, but revenge is a dish best served cold. enjoy fellas.
John STALBERG, LOS ANGELES, United States
I am always amazed at the number of people who respond to good news from Iraq, that can't see the big picture. The US is taking action (unknown approach among Democrats) to guarantee the security and freedom of my kids. If the Bush haters on the Left, don't get it and win in 2008, I fear for America
Dave Hosley, Virginia, USA
That's great news! Now that we've conquered a country that never attacked us, our oil companies are going to get the no bid contracts to start taking over their oil. Wow! Our plan worked, not very ethical, especially for the good 'ol U.S. of A. but it worked.
Richard, Arcadia, U.S.A.
Ever since George W. Bush, almost immediately upon assuming the Presidency, led Congress in retracting virtually every reform that his father had achieved to encourage sanity and probity in the intercourse between nations, we have no way of knowing what is now "legal" propaganda from USA gov't.
Aminah Yaquin Carroll, Gallipolis Ferry, WV, USA
'paul in london' and the other saddam apologists make an excellent point - despite their stunning ignorance [or dishonesty] and questionable motives. democracy, pluralism & free speech ARE overrated. those values need apply only to those who support them at home, which firmly excludes the left.
john, las cruces, USA
I'm confused - so Sadam did have yellowcake after all?
Penny, MPLS, USA
Ed, Pine, CO, USA
I read that more than 40% of the USA economy before WWII was owned by British companies. It is hardly surprising therefore that USA would have been supplying both UK and Russia even though USA was had not joined the war.
Charan Muzaya, London, Zimbabwe
For those of you pleased with the progress in Iraq, I would like you to think of the people this damages and distresses. You know, people like Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy, Barack Obama, Osama Bin Laden, the American left etc.
Doug, Baltimore,
Why do many of the readers have such heart burn with the news that the war is now going much better for the Iraqi people?? If you support Al-Qaeda, then pick up a weapon and go help them.
MaryJane, OldTown, USA
Mr. Larsen, I will rebut with a question of my own...How many times have the spineless declared defeat up until now?
Every time there is progress the refrain of defeat rings out.
Total war should have been the policy. Completely crush your opponent. Any less is inhumane and wasteful.
Troy Mepyans, Kalamazoo, USA
How many times has Bush claimed victory now? I guess all those market bombings,the non-existent power and sewerage services,and oil production which remains less than when the US invaded are other signs of "Mission accomplished". For those visiting Baghdad I suggest you watch out for flying Pigs
Jeff Larsen, Christchurch, NZ
It's not a group in Iraq we fight, it's an ideology. No part of the World will escape unchanged & in the foreseeable future no one battle or slice of geography will define victory.
Support brave hearts, quieten those fearful voices, and step forwards together with dignity and purpose.
Andy, South Normanton, England
So I guess I can now rent a car and drive from Baghdad airport to downtown. Funny I didn't quite see the travel ads in my weekend paper for trips to Iraq.
J Lee, New York, USA
To all the Allies I saw when I was in Iraq in 2004, UK, Australia, Congo, Denmark, Italy, Poland, El Salvador, Japan, and others, thank you for sticking it out when we needed your support! Thank God it's going to work out! W rocks! From a then 40 year old US Navy Petty Officer who volunteered to go
Josh, fahaheel, kuwait
timesonline, and DRUDGE, thanks for the article. I sit here in San Diego Ca and would NEVER have seen this had it not been for Drudge to put this on the site. Lots can happen between now and November, but think abut this,,,this is the worst possible for news for the democrats. The party of defeat
Juan, Chula Vista, USA
Maartin in St Petersburg Russia. The United States fought in two theaters make that three with North Africa. The Soviet Union enslaved Eastern Europe for half a century and crushed any who dared dissent. The United states invested billions of Dollars that were never repaid to rebuild a strong Europe
Ed, Ponca, USA
Well, I was a huge sceptic, and even fell into so anti-Bush lunacy, but with the yellow-cake story breaking, and the evidence that soon the progress due to the surge will not be easily reversed, it seems the world (and the Democrats) owe Bush an apology.
Jorge Rodriguez, Toronto,
Paul in London. yes we were late we don't like war. But don't forget lend lease, thats why Hitler declared war. If we had stayed out of it you wouldn't have lasted forever. I am glad we did get into it Britain has usually been a friend even if you have no gratitude. I appreciate my British allies.
Ed, Ponca, USA
Paul in London
Try 500 tons yellowcake uranium at Tuwaitha
Prohibited Al Samoud chemical warhead missiles
Terrorist hijacking camp at Salman Pak
Al Qaeda manuals filled with Iraqi chemical bomb expertise
19 UN resolutions violated for starters, no democracy mention yet
Still laughable?
Ernest G, Winston-Salem, USA
Fortunately we preempted a tyrant early enough so as to outplay our shadowy enemy into strategic deathground in his very homeland. Brave nations again showed why barbarism is best fought by resolute ideas AND action. The 5-yr delay in the onset of oil supply shock and new allies gained are bonuses.
Benjamin, Manila, Philippines
For those of you who assert that the invasion of Iraq was primarily because of WMD (therefore was "ill-advised"), the Joint Resolution of Congress cited 10 reasons for "legally" invading. And the word "alleged" was specifically used in the brief reference to WMD. There were no lies. Look it up!
John , Houston, USA
True... there was no al-Qaeda in Iraq when Bush followed the mandate of the UN.... only Saddam with his 22,000 tons of yellow cake waiting to be refined....
Under Harry Reid and Barrak Obama's regime the USA will once again return to the hey days of Jimmy Carter and his failed policies....
JamesJ, Wichita, United States
The USA(CIA)... Imposing democracy for 60 years without a thought for what the population might actually want. Ever heard of Fletcher Prouty? A good insight for the un-educated or just plain dumb into why America is in Iraq and elsewhere.
Mark, Perth, Australia
Free men do democracy.
steve, denver, USA
Funny that this is only said in the UK, US news only reports that we are far from the end of this war. Be lucky that you get positive news there.
Keith, Islip, United States
I agree with rabin, George "Stonewall" Bush made a decision and stuck with it. History will vindicate him! The media have lost their minds.
don clipper, Atlanta, USA
You quote UN resolutions when necessary to bash the regime of Saddam, but what about the resolution the body passed AGAINST the invasion ? Saddam was a creation of the US in their proxy war against the Soviets. Oh, and btw, Iran did have a democracy in the 50's that was overthrown by the CIA!!!
hydro, Bangalore, India
Good news for the Iraqi's, but where have the 1200 been driven up North to - Turkey or Iran ? Are these 2 neighbours having to pick up the pieces ?
Roger, London, UK
Al-Quaida - a convenient label for the Iraqi resistance?
I expect many more of these war on terror success propaganda release as the US election draws near
A Harris, Kettering, UK
it's all because of iron will of George W Bush and nothing else!
rabin, edgewood, USA
Whats all this Al-Qaeda business ?
I thought the Iragi war was all about removing Saddam and weapons of mass distruction?
Peter, Aldershot, UK
It wiil be years before we will know if the world(not just the U.S.) has been successful-how many terrorists has this war produced for another generation to deal with???
Mark, Perth, Australia
Poor little Barack Hussein Obama. He SO wanted and prayed for the US to fail. He is sorry that more GIs have not been killed, and the country of Iraq has not fallen into ruin. Perhaps, just perhaps, if he is elected, he can still make his hearts desires come true. Retreat to defeat Barry.
Darrel, Chicago,
This is genuinely good news. Any country is better off without al Qaeda.
But is anybody really naive enough to think that if we get hubristic and pick a fight with the non-Dawa Shiites (who allowed the "surge" to "succeed") that we won't have a worse fight? They ARE the govt in most areas yet.
Mike Burns, Clovis, USA
Dear Americans: please no more "We saved Europe in WWII" comments. The USSR's role was easily the most significant in the defeat of Nazi Germany.
Martin, St Petersburg, Russia
I hate to think where the USA would be if AlGore had been elected on 2000. We had the right man leading this country during the 9/11 disaster.
Larry , stewart, usa
Just one word.
ALLONS
Barry Hauser, Apollo Beach, USA
The no. of Americans on here trying to justify the war by trotting out the tired "now there's democracy in Iraq" is laughable. Who are we to impose democracy on others? Why stop with Iraq? Why not invade every non-democratic country in the world then? The lack of oil perhaps? Axis of evil=US/UK
Paul, London,
What an amazing, courageous military this country has today. They are able to go eight thousand miles; house to house, face to face with the most rotten people this planet has seen for a very long time--and WIN.
Yes, Mr. Harry Reid--Senator from the blind state of Nevada; the war is not lost.
James Gates, Sunland, U.S.A
Well done to the Amerians and Iraqis who stayed to finish the job. I am sure the British forces who served in Iraq wish they were still there to share in this victory.????
Nice one J.Willock of Canada, The British still have a Brigade in Iraq, the rest of us just happen to be busy in Afghanistan.
Matt, London, UK
Say what you will, but Osama Himself said after our invasion of Iraq that it had become the central front in his war on the infidels. He and his ilk have failed spectacularly and I believe, barring some inevitable hiccups, this is the beginning of the end of the Jihadist movement.
Mike, Seattle, USA
The ease with which leftists now promote Saddam's Iraq as some kind of Middle Eastern haven in which rights were respected, education was top notch and people "had it better" is nothing short of scandalous. Iraqi's were brutalized beyond belief by that man and it would have continued for decades.
William, Manhattan, USA
America is in an impossible position in terms of how it is viewed by the rest of the world. This is the price of greatness. Of course American foreign policy and leadership is not perfect, but its values of democracy and freedom and liberty do deserve our praise. GOD BLESS AMERICA, our closest ally
Gavin Solomons, Bristol, United Kingdom
Praise God for George W. Bush and the United States Military! They are truly the keepers of liberty. Terrorists are finding they can run, but they cannot hide.
GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS! We owe you a debt of gratitude we can never repay.
Jan , amarillo, USA
Afghanistan/Iraq - 50 million people free from the tyrannical thug dictators who teach their babies to kill westerners so that they can maintain there despotic power over their people... Priceless!!
Next stop Iran... in case no one has noticed, Iran is now surrounded!
Robin, Greenville, USA
If the American people had listened to the Democrats and abandoned the war in Iraq, Al -Qaeda in Iraq would be well dug in, controling the 3rd largest reserves in the world and making their gruesome plans for killing the infadels. Thank you President Bush. God Bless America and our allies.
Tom, Raleigh, USA
Mccain will not win. Mccain is a good man but he has the wrong ideas. The average American is more concerned about actually building bridges to the world and taking care of our economic situation at home than wasting lives and money in a country that never should have been invaded.
George, Atlanta, USA
400,000 in mass graves slaughtered by Saddam and all you liberals can do is moan about oil Clinton plays with cigars and interns while a million Rwandans die and you can't get enough of him Now we've Barack a clueless fool and you're all giddy again History will judge Bush as 1 of the greatest presidents and Barry as 1 of the worse ala Jimmy Carter
mike o'brien, seattle, usa
Outstanding. Good news has been scarce, more due to lack of coverage by a biased US media than by quantity. Granted, it ain't over, but the tide seems to be turning to the degree it can't be easily concealed. I truly pity anyone who is disturbed by the news of AQ being on the run and in decline.
Terry, Kuwait,
The US is crumbling as we speak. The real legacy of the Bush administration, high gas prices home forclosure, rising crime, rising unemploment and a crumbling infrastructure.
George, Atlanta, USA
"Saddam's weapons sure were efficient in exterminating the Kurds, no?" -- Tim, Philadelphia, USA
Those chemical weapons were of course supplied to him by the US of A. There is a lovely photo shoot of Saddam and Rumsfeld shaking hands floating around the net. All things eventually lead back to US
jayil, london, uk
Fellow Americans quit berating the British! They are our closest allies, even the libs. Keep in mind when terrorist came to test the British resolve they stood strong. The didn't pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq after the Underground bombings, unlike the cowardly Spanish.
Dan, Billings, MT, US
It's always helpful to forget there were no Al Qaeda or Islamic extremists operating in Iraq until after America invaded the country, which was always the most secular and educated of Arab countries in the Mideast.
But now we're winning. The country is in a shambles with 1.5 million refugees.
John J. Kavanagh, Mercer Island, USA
"American and Iraqi forces are driving Al-Qaeda in Iraq...in the culmination of one of the most spectacular victories of the war on terror. "
We can be more precise than that. This is a spectacular victory for America and Iraq. For the enemy and their Western fan club, it's a spectacular defeat.
David J Crook, Coatesville, PA, USA
History will prove George Bush and Tony Blair as two of the greatest world leaders/statesmen in history.
Despite the slings and arrows by the leftists and the media (redundant?) they stuck by their principles and defeated the most evil organization of our time. We should not forget Howard.
Brian, Cincinnati, USA
Have you say, my left-leaning friends, but when it's all said and done it'll be McCain by 8 points in November. Obama, at this conjuncture of the campaign--given the media love-fest for him and the rather low-profile campaigning McCain has put forth thus far---should have at least a 15 pt. margin.
Michael Giacalone, Lutz, USA
Well, jayil, london, uk;
Saddam's weapons sure were efficient in exterminating the Kurds, no?
That, of course, was a cowardly act.
Tim, Philadelphia, USA
AQ was in the ME, US, Europe, Southest Asia, Africa. Apparently some people believe the only place AQ wasn't was in Iraq. Of course, if they read the intelligence reports instead of just the headlines, they'd know Saddam was funding Islamic Jihad and Zarqawi fled to Iraq after we invaded Afghanistan
Heywood U. Reedmore, USA,
Thanks Tom Cleveland, USA, okay my analogy may have been slightly exaggerated but if you think about it, Iraq a weak disabled country was not only fighting the might of US and UK but 47 other nations (collation of the willing) with their latest hi-tech weapons. Could we say...a cowardly act by US?
jayil, london, uk
If a fly-paper strategy in Iraq drew in the loathsome Al Quaeda fighters, this "Have Your Say" session is drawing in some equally loathsome comments. It's not often we see such a technicolor display of ignorance, credulity, stupidity, bigotry and sheer vein-bulging aggression.
Neil, Galloway, Scotland
America under FDR was sending arm of all kinds to the U.K> before Pearl harbor with out them it is doubtful that the english, canadians, aussies and american volenteers could have lasted as long as they did. Remember for the first two years of the war the soviets were allied with the nazi's
Yochanan, chicago , USA
George Bush and Tony Blair led their nations in a disastrous policy of recruiting more terrorists by invading and occupying Iraq - a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9-11. That's what history will say and that's why both nations have rejected their leadership.
RStephen, Los Angeles, USA
Funny that this Murdoch paper STILL portrays the US invasion and occupation of Iraq as if it were part of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, which of course Iraq had nothing to do with.
So-called "Al Qaeda in Iraq" (the "Base in Mesopotamia") of course had little to do with the real Al Qaeda of Osama.
George Rogers, Redmond, USA
To Paul, London:
Who Lend/Leased you all that war fighting material before Pearl Harbor? Slanted, indeed!
Tom, Cleveland, USA
Well done to the Amerians and Iraqis who stayed to finish the job. I am sure the British forces who served in Iraq wish they were still there to share in this victory. Blame Gordon Brown for pulling them out early. He is too busy surrendering British autonomy to Brussels to worry about Iraq.
J.Willock, Windsor, Canada
As a student of history, I have the fondest admiration for most things that are British. FDR did what he could to support Britian in its finest hour. Our people were against another war created by Europeans. After WWII we faced down the Reds together. God Save the Queen and God Bless America.
George, Saint Simons Island, Georgia, USA
As a US Navy Seabee, no I do not think that a "President" Hussein Obama would "have my back". In fact, if there is a "President" Hussein Obama this GI will refuse reenlistment as will my Marine son, my Army (Eighty Deuce) son in law, and my National Guard daughter. Deserve Victory America.
jmb, NC, USA
'Paul' from London is terribly off-base. We kept you Brits in the fight long before we entered the war by keeping you supplied. We also sent an immense amount of material to Russia, keeping them in the fight, as well. It was America's industrial capacity that won the war.
Ed, Pine, CO, USA
While I reject his opinions and his dramatic analogy, I do gotta say that jayil, london, uk DOES have a valid point there...
Tom, Cleveland, USA
You won't find this on the BBC.
Terry, London, UK
Paul:
What history are you reading? No body here or anywhere claims any of the things you say we claim. What is true is that the western allies put tremendous pressure on the Germans, culminating in Normandy. The Brits themselves could never have fought in Asia, Africa, and France.
Greg, Louisville, KY, USA
God bless the Brits! The USA has had no better friend and when Obama takes office in 2009 we'll start acting like it again!
Troy, Michigan, USA
To our British friends who have supported and helped us in this war against Islamofacism, you have my eternal thanks. To the Brits who embrace mutliculturalism to the point where your top judge says there's room for shari'a law in Britain, enjoy your country's descent into hell.
Susan, USA
Susan Ouellette, Leesburg,
To Philip, Osaka Japan:
Freedom of speech is a two way street. If you don't want Americans commenting on your comments, don't make them! If you want to make comments, expect your comments to be commented upon by Americans, who INVENTED freedom of speech!
Tom, Cleveland, USA
Howard,
Pity you have been brainwashed into believing that there is nothing for which war is worthy. This is why you are loosing your country to a culture foreign to your own, hope Shar'ia works out well for you.
J., Taipei, Taiwan
As an army man and a master of history I will say that the invasion of Iraq will be viewed in the future as one of the greatest strategic moves of all time. You took a disperse enemy and got him to mass his forces in one spot. We poked a stick in their eye by invading Iraq, UN sanctioned to boot.
john, clayton, USA
McCain continues to predict mass genocide and a civil war if Obama becomes President and withdraws US troops. So which is it? If al-Qaeda in Iraq has now been handily defeated, why can't we pull our troops out? Iraqi Security Forces have over 300,000 troops. Let them provide security from now on
Bill, Vancouver,
"a fantastic display of coordinated US and British land and air forces in just 23 days" --Marcus, Tampa , USA
Iraq was slowly weakned by 10 years sanctions. Further, they had ancient Russian guns/tanks with the worlds weakest Army. Anology- 10,000 US WWF wrestlers fighting a single disabled child
jayil, london, uk
To Matt, Mexico City, Mexico:
Bravo!!!! Salient point!
Tom, Cleveland, USA
Well you won't hear me complaining about the Brits. If it wasn't for you, we Americans would never read this story. Our media are scared to death to print something like this.
gb, Austin, USA
US history a joke
The most slanted history is US history. WE fought Hitler alone for 3 years, he couldnt beat us so went East, when Russia entered & us holding the second front the war was over just when
You yanks only came in after Pearl H & only after Hitler declared war on you. Late again
Paul, London,
When you think about it, what could be more helpful to killing Al Qaeda members than getting them concentrated in one place, as opposed to hunting them down individually all over the world? The fact is, Al Qaeda moved into Iraq when we invaded and facilitated their own deaths. What's not to like?
Matt, Mexico City, Mexico
Perhaps the soldiers in this offensive should adopt a "take no prisoners" approach, and kill every enemy combatant they find. Otherwise the combatants will end up in a court of law with full Constitutional protection, lawyers, and costly jury trials.
Bill Stanley, Knoxville, TN, US
What sad news for Barry Hussein Obama that the US and Iraqi forces are prevailing over the Islamic Extremists. Which side is Barry on again?
Darrel, Chicago,
Some of the comments here from both sides beggar belief. I'm surprised to hear so much aggression and arrogance from the Americans towards us British. So quick to forget we have fought with you from the outset - and why? Just because of a few comments by some people enjoying "free speech"
Philip, Osaka, Japan
Hey jayil in London
The "Mission Accomplished" sign was put up by the proud crew of the US aircraft carrier, NOT Bush!
It was addressing the defeat of the dictator Saddam's armed
forces in ......... a fantastic display of coordinated US and British land and air forces in just 23 days.
Marcus, Tampa , USA
I served 2 tours in Iraq. The surge is an absolute success. 90 % of the Iraqi people are with us. Are biggest threat comes from the Drive By American Media. The New York Times,Washington Post,AP and 3 of the TV Networks refuse to tell the American peop[le the truth. Iraqi surge is a major success .
Tim Conway, new york, USA
To Philip, Nr. Haywards Heath, England:
It was "good news" when we won WWII. And regarding the MILLIONS of dead French, British, Poles, Russians, Chinese, Japanese, Germans and Jews?
What's your point? That war sucks? C'mon! Grow up!
Tom, Cleveland, USA
' How much blood did " we " shed on your behalf ' ? Like you were there then were you? As for Britain being incompetant, the last time you tried to handle something on your own was Vietnam.
Chris, London,
What a shame for Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and John Abscam Murtha that the US has prevailed, despite the retreat and defeat lefts best efforts.
Darrel, Chicago,
If you were an American Militay Member would you believe that a President Obama had your back? Would Amierican Military Member fear being handed over to the enemy when the President Obama meets with an enemy of the free world as he has stated he would do during election campaign?
Green, Piedmont, USA
Sadly, all the bitterness you hear is the remnants of the liberals and leftist who have been cheering defeat only to see it completely reversed while President Bush is commander-in-chief.
That is what is killing them and why another of their talking points is being mangled beyond recognition.
Romanesq, New York, US
"good news" - and regarding the 100,000's dead Iraqis?
Philip, Nr. Haywards Heath, England
To Rick in Cincinnati,
I am not attacking our friends! I am providing a little historical perspective to those British who have written horrible things about our country in this particular blog. The British who stand by us will certainly understand that!
Tom, Cleveland, USA
God Bless America and Iraq, their fine men and women in uniform, including all coalition troops!
I find quite astonishing the disappointment shown here by typical leftist defeatist, many who also championed Al-Queda terrorists as "freedom-fighters" lol, Freaks!
Ron, Aurora, IL, USA
If any objective reader may wish some really independent information on the situation in Iraq, read Nir Rosen in his article "The Myth of the Surge". An easy google.
Iraq is fractured politically. Clausewitz states that war is only an extension of politics by other means. This war has just begun.
tarquinis, Seattle, USA
I wish people would stop saying we invaded Iraq because of oil. Last time I checked we're PAYING to BUY it from them. Like that leftist George Clooney said in the movie Syriana 'They were fighting 100 years before they found the oil and they'll be fighting 100 years after it's gone'
Ken, Toronto, Canada
I heartily agree that the amazing story is not that the US Military and Iraqi forces are continuing to soundly defeat Al-Qaeda but rather the fact that the old grey lady accepts to print facts not a priori lefty-ideology. The war must now no longer adversely affect Barack's chances of victory.
Jason, League City, TX, USA
I was watching the only WW11 movie Cary Grant made during WW11 last night and inre a dud Japanese bomb, he made a remark about the fuse....."this is marked, " Made in the U.S.A.", I guess it's the appeasers condribution to the war effort". Hmmm....even then we had appeasers?
Jim, Weatherford, USA
O! People of Britain! How much blood did we shed on YOUR behalf? Not out of love, mind you (and certainly not for mineral wealth), but rather because we determined that you were far too incompetent to handle the situation yourselves!
Now please do the world a favor! Go back to sleep!
Thomas, Bedford Heights, USA
A rather pyrrhic victory. Al Qaida were absent in Iraq durring Saddams, tenure. The US knew that the Islamic nihilists and Jihadists would flock to Iraq once she invaded. Their cynical ploy was to draw out the fundamentalists using Iraq as the battleground. The Iraqi lives destroyed? Acceptable.
Ollie, Kingston Upon Thames, UK
ToTom in Cleveland,
It is the British who have fought along side the USA in Iraq and Afganistan! When most other countries stood back!
Why are you attacking our friends?
Rick, Cincinnati, USA
President Bush should be commended for the leadership of this war on Al Qaeda in Iraq. He has kept his eye on the goal and
regardless of the left's bad-mouthing him, he has succeeded. We as a nation should be thankful that we have had a man of his will and stature to lead us. Thank God for Bush!
Roy , Ooltewah, Tn., USA
Bob Sledd - an occupation force will finally lose - pick up a history book - yes the US has the backing of Iraqi gov. the Germans had the Vichy gov. - this war is unsustainable in US lives and in US dollars. Arm chair warriors are a dime a dozen - real soldiers cost money to train and sustain.
haralambos, joburg,
America does not invade countries to steal their resources (ie, oil), it was Britain that did that! It was Britain that fought a war with China to force them to trade in opium. It was Britain who extracted wealth from India, who kidnapped people from Africa to bring to America. It was Britain!!!!
Tom, Cleveland, USA
The war isn't over, but it is won. Similar to WWII after the Battle of the Bulge, Iraq's successful attacks on Al Qaeda and Shia extremists have signaled victory. We were fortunate to have had a President of experience and courage to lead the country during this time.
Jason N., O Fallon, USA
My deepest sympathies go out to the New York Times & other left wing news organizations here the USA. The NY Times have wanted the US to lose since Day 1 & their attempts to manipulate the news have failed !!!
US new organizations are now doing all they can to make sure Obama wins the Presidency
Bill, Trenton, US
Even Barry O'Bama has flip flopped and now says we'll stay if he gets elected.
Wake up Surrender Monkeys.
The only way to win this and any war is to take it to the enemy and "win".
Wars are not "over" until "someone".... actually "wins".
Bob Sledd, Waldwick, USA
Thats right Al-Qaeda was in every country in the world EXCEPT Iraq. All but Iraq. And as far as 100k Iraqis killed, how many would be dead under sadam by now. Name a war where freedom wasn't bought with blood. What the libs really hate, this proves we're the good guys. Now Syria wants to negotiate,
John, Chandler, USA
More remarkable than the good news from Iraq is the Times' willingness to acknowledge it. Flying in the face of the Accepted Narrative provokes much screaming, wailing, and gnashing of teeth. Much of which is displayed here. Historic changes for the Mideast are in the offing, thanks to USA and Bush.
Rick S., Framignham, USA
james under hussien more than 180,000 iraqis died in one year, in al-answar alone. Chemical Ali claimed we exaggerated, it was in his words probably little over 100,000.
Jeff, Austin, US
James, if there are more anti-west muslims then ever why has the US NOT been attacked since the IRAQ war, prior to the war the wtc was attacked 2x, us embassys, the USS Cole...... maybe we are safer when they hate us :)
Jeff, Austin, US
haralambos: "it's ALL rigged to grab the oil wells. Can we move on?" Show us a SINGLE oil well we've "grabbed". And if we've grabbed the oil wells, why is oil at $145 a barrel? And if we're there for the oil, then why are we allowing them to accept bids from other countries? Get a new tune!
boB, Sunrise, USA
This is great news for Iraq if it persists but all you Bush-worshipers can get off your high horses now you created a war for completely non-altruistic reasons, Bush's buddies are rolling in cash, nearly 1m Iraqis are dead and there are more anti-west muslims now than ever. Great victory! Come on
James, Bath,
" ... but there was also no democracy. No popularly-elected government. Are these things valueless?- Jonathan, Redmond, WA, USA.
Jonathan, you seem to have forgotten the circumstances in which Bush first stole power. When you live in a glass house, don't throw stones.
Paul, Bristol, UK
Before American readers give all Brits a verbal kicking, pls be aware that there are Brits (inc. the government and the armed forces of course) who wanted the Taliban and Saddam removed simply because of what they did to their own people. A little quicker and we could have dealt with Mugabe by now.
Peter Beaumont, Skipton, UK
So that's a war that will cost an estimated $2 trillion when it's over, that has displaced over 2 million, killed in excess of 300,000, and funnelled millions into the pockets of republican donating defence contractors.
But it's ok, because Al-Quaida have been driven out. Who weren't there before
Owen, London, UK
What a bizarre and pathetic set of comments on both sides. It's like reading Michael Moore arguing with himself. Still, great to hear positives coming out of Iraq, and thanks and respect to the men and women fighting terrorism for all of us.
Dave, Devon,
Adolf Hitler put the Baath Party in Power, he trained them in all the Nazi techniques. Sadam was their direct descendant. Of course the whole Islamic Jihad started with the worst pres. Jimmy Carter.He destabilized the region by letting the Islamic gov. take over Iran.
J, Honolulu, USA
This is a step in the right direction for the Iraqi government. Once they can control their own destiny we can start to removing troops. However, only a fool would beleive that the Iraqi Government would want a full withdrawl. Look at historical precedent, such as 50+ years in Germany
Tim, Allendale, Michigan
The way good news from Iraq is received here shows us in stark relief the selfish, ignorant and bigotted amorality of those that that find Iraq good news not to their taste.
Perhaps if I were more of a refined European I would "understand" this distaste for Iraqi freedom.
I am glad I am not
Mike, Newmarket, UK
Isn't it amazing with all that information out there there are still people who continue to swallow the Al-Qaeda - 9/11 (sinking of the Lusitania/Burning of the Reichstad) War on Terror hook line and sinker. It's ALL about oil boys and girls. it's ALL rigged to grab the oil wells. Can we move on?
haralambos, joburg,
One must realize that Al-Qaeda was drawn to Iraq as they hate the US and thus wish to attempt to kill our soldiers. Their ploy did not succeed. If all of our troops were in Kuwait, Al-Qaeda would be in Kuwait. Isn't fortunate that Al-Qaeda is being whipped and defeated in Iraq and not in the US?
Warren Distler, Evansville, USA
Wow, you lot are angry aren't you? Been feeling under pressure at all? Anyway, never mind the naysayers, Iraq is perfect now and the world is a much better place than it was in 2003, nice job, thanks team America for saving us from ourselves, again. You can go back to the football game.
Paul, Carlow, Ireland
"Anyone think this resembles George Orwell's novel 1984?
James Titley, Bath, UK"
Exactly what I was thinking - like, is that not the "DIAMETRICAL OPPOSITE" of what we were "told" 1/a few months ago about the situation by The Times?
Philip, Nr. Haywards Heath, England
"What a bunch of mean-spirited people we have here. Prior to the liberation, the was no "al-Qaeda in Iraq", true... but there was also no democracy. No free elections. No freedom. No popularly-elected government. Are these things valueless?"
And who originally put Sadam in power?
Philip, Nr. Haywards Heath, England
"This is their war we are fighting. We were attacked." - Every heard that America has accepted that it knew in advance about Pearl Harbour? For people to automatically believe that America did not use 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq/Afghanistan rides in the face of historical precedent.
Philip, Nr. Haywards Heath, England
The difference is that while its true Al Qaeda In Iraq wasnt there when the War/ Liberation began, the home factions of Iraqi Insurgents ,who fought the American and British forces are now united to get the foreign fighters out of the country.
They want to rule their own country now
Roy, Tampa Fl, USA
Not a word of good about progress in the war could be written, until it was late enough in the Bush Presidency so that the loony liberals could start posting their propaganda in order to make the next guy look good.
If Obama doesn't win, the war coverage will turn negative again instantly.
Tom, Los Angeles, USA
It's good to see that the terrorists are being defeated and I thank the US for their help in the two world wars. But where was the US when the IRA was commtting terrorists atrocities in Britain? Plenty of Americans donated money to terrorists then.
David, Nottingham, England
Anyone who thinks this resembles 1984 is an idiot who cannot read, and therefore doesn't know that 1984 is about when the loony liberals kill all the capitalists.
Tom, Los Angeles, USA
"Quaida was little or not at all present in Iraq ...where exactly do you genius tacticians propose that we confront such an enemy?" How about fighting them in Saudi, where they come from. But that seems to difficult for all the war mongering US comments, maybe you cannot find it on a map.
T. Andre, London,
Wait, doesn't Hussein Obama say we Iraq was a mistake and we should have pulled out?? No, Osama said "Iraq is the center of world Jihad". And he lost.
Sure, our military can defeat Al Qaeda, Saddam, the Mahdi army...but, can we defeat the ultimate enemy, LIBERALISM, here at home?
John Farkis, Chicago, USA
Silly Socialists! The USA and UK have won in Iraq! And all of the smug little retorts you can pathetically muster can't change the facts.
Rex, London, UK
Let Ai-Qaeda continue to flow into Iraq. They ( Ai-Qaeda leadership) were once spread throughout the world and now they are dead.
Noe , Longview, TX
Why do we blame the Americans? Did they ask Al Qaeda to enter Iraq ... supply them weapons? There is no moral symmetry. It's the Al Qaeda Muslim Jihadist that are making war.
Robin Starveling, Houston, Texas
yep. no terrorism in iraq with sadam there. keep on telling yourself that and perhaps you will believe everything else the left barks out.
Pete, twin cities, MN, USA
Whether Al-Qaeda was in Iraq or Afghanistan, they are dead. They came to us and our brilliant forces killed them. It doesn't matter where they died, just that they can't kill anyone else. For that, people should be happy. Our forces liberated Iraq from a despot. He's dead too. Good riddance!
Richard Terrell, Franklin, TN
Some fools here seem sad we won. We would have had to fight al-Qaeda at some point anyway. AQ completely misjudged popular support in Iraq, it is destroyed as a fighting force, and its hideous ideology has been driven to the margins. This is an immense victory for the people of Iraq and for the West
Steven, London, UK
Two words - Where's Osama? The leader and founder of al-Qaeda remains free because Bush chose to invade Iraq, which was no threat whatsoever to the United States. No amount of right-wing rhetoric will change that. The U.S. has created a humanitarian catastrophe in Iraq and accomplished nothing.
Stephen, Minneapolis, MN, USA
How come the "Press"is so quite on this story. You knocked our president down when eveything looked bad, including the democratic congress who called the surge a "failure". I wish we had more failures like this . God Bless President Bush and the courage he had to keep this country safe.
Fred, West Chester, Pa
American and Iraqi Freedom loving volunteers have killed many thousands of fanatical Islamist maniacal murderers. None of those dead alQaeda will ever again put a knife into a film maker who angers them, stone a woman for showing her hair, or behead another Iraqi Christian. Thank you George W. Bush.
Will Robertson, Virginia Beach, USA
Think about it. Al-Quada was in every country in every hemisphere but the liberal naysayers and especially the US Democrats say they weren't in Iraq----ever! They should all be tried for treason.
mike loehrer, hackensack, usa
Hey people, it's not a "zero-sum" game. If AQ wasn't in Iraq, they'd instead be in Afg'stan or Somalia (or both) 50-fold. AND Saddam would STILL be there, adding even greater instability to the region & world. Unlike the cowardly govt of Spain & others, the US/UK at least stood firm with the Iraqis!
Mauricio, Beijing, PRC
The saddest thing to read from all you experts is how no one from the US mentions the over one million Iraquis who have perished from a invansion for WMD's. Bad intelligence . inside Iraq and 1600 Penn Avenue. Hopefully we can move military assets to the real war on terrorism and Bin Laden.
enn, Miami,FLA, USA
This is very good news. It shows that the Iraqi people are declaring their intent to rule themselves -- not to be intimidated by the Saddam of the past or by Al Qaeda of the present. They will hopefully continue to chart their course toward freedom.
David, Atlanta, USA
I guess some of your readers only hear what they want to hear. Al Qaida was in Iraq before the war started just like the Viet Cong were in Laos, Cambodia, and North Viet Nam before the war started! I am so sick of you liberals only telling partial Truths. WMD's were in Iraq also before we invaded.
Sgt Marty, Shreeve, U.S.A.
What nonsense that there was no Al-Qaeda in Iraq prior to the Gulf War. Get real.
David, Mission, USA
Thanks for your comment Phil (from England).
The rest of you blokes--So al-Qaeda went to Iraq after the invastion. Where would you rather have them? In your underground and on your buses?
Milton, Idaho Falls, USA
For those who reminisce for the good old days, let me remind you that 6 years ago Iraq was financing suicide bombers in Israel, still technically at war with the US (no peace treaty was ever signed in 1991), murdering its own citizens with WMD, and in violation of 19 UN resolutions. That's no more.
Steve, San Diego,
What better place to fight Al-Qaeda. Would you rather fight them in your backyard? That's the whole idea, fight the enemy abroad so you don't have to at home. It always amazes me how liberals think.
Wait, I know, invite them over for a beer and they'll change their ways. Pathetic.
Brian, NY, USA
Its absolutely ridiculous to say there was no al-Qaeda in Iraq before the second Gulf War, you drones are completely ignoring the fact that al Zarqawi and his Ansar Al-Islam group were running operations from Iraq well before the US set foot in.
Tony, Richmond, VA, USA
You people make me sick! You don't care about the fact that Saddam is DEAD, & Iraq is a FREE country. You people have some seriously evil priorities. Let them stay enslaved you say. What's Saddams killing 300,000+ & rape rooms since they're not YOUR children? At least they can defend themselves now.
Scott, Logan, USA
Is there no good news you can find here? Would you rather Al-Qaeda succeeded? 12,000 members of their terrorist organization are dead or in jail. Defeat terrorism. Wasn't that the end goal? Saddam is gone. Iraq is stabilizing and now they have joined in dispatching Al-Qaeda. This is great!
Kevin, Denver, USA
Er, in response to the silly comments... before the invasion of Iraq, Al Qaeda were flying planes into buildings in case you didn't notice... now, they are being defeated by the military.
If you liberals had your way they would be untouched in the Middle East, free to do whatever they want
David, London, UK
Silly Libs, same dumb points. We are close to a historic 1st Arab Democracy in the ME and you would cut and run still and dishonor those losses. Lowest US casualty count in history. It is critical to deal with Islamo-Fascism today and not let it grow. No US attacks here under GW.
Jon, Marriottsville, USA
Quaida was little or not at all present in Iraq prior to the invasion, this assertion is correct. The question however is where exactly do you genius tacticians propose that we confront such an enemy? Fleet St. Perhaps? Iraq was the most logical choice of fronts.
richard, Tehachapi, USA
Yeah there were only boy scouts
Todd, atlanta, USA
You guys just can't get over it, can you. You're right. They weren't in Iraq. They were in New York City, Pennsylvania and Arlington, VA. They were only getting medical attention in Iraq and having R and R with a guy who made it clear he wasn't going to comply with the UN sanctions.
Roger, king george, va, usa
This article is missing the point entirely. The only reason Al-Qaeda is still there is because the U.S. is still there. It's an illegal and immoral war for oil. How would the U.K. like it if the U.S. invaded and never left?
Tom, Kansas City, US
Before the opening of the Iraq battlefront, al-qaeda was all over the world. To bring them to this front made a lot of sense. Better there than here.Stop being foolish, you are still a non-believer. your head will go too.
Booker, Spring, America
The previous posters don't get it. Al-Qaeda is in Iraq to fight the Americans head on...and are losing. In addition, they have been discredited in the Arab world and their political influence has waned dramatically. If we hadn't fought them here, we'd be fighting them in Afghanistan and other place
Brian, San Antonio, USA
I hope the Iraqi and American soldiers are killing or capturing the remaining Al Qaeda terrorists in Iraq and not just "driving them out" to fight another day. Far better there than in American cities to be fought by policemen.
Jim
Los Angeles
Jim Bonorris, Los Angeles, USA
You guys are right there WAS no al Qaeda -- the USA sucked al Qaeda in there and created a battle front and chewed them up. Bow down...the USA won no matter how bad you wanted them to lose...and turned an enemy into an ally. Iran has been humiliated too, they can't stop anything.
Jonathan, Orlando, USA
I love these comments from our so called allies. Lets pull out and see if you handle Iran taking control of all the oil. I would be glad to pay $8.00 a gallon to see you pay $20.00 a gallon.
And whoever takes over Europe again we'll let em keep it. You should brush up on your Farsi and Arabic.
Jim, Phoenix, USA
You are probably correct - before the invasion there probably were not (or not many) Al-Queda in Iraq. But the war caused them to congregate nicely, where they could be dealt with in the appropriate fashion. Same holds true for cockroaches - you've got to smoke 'em out.
DFN, detroit, usa
I forget, when exactly did Germany attack the US prior to our declaration of war? Never? Hmmm, I don't remember you pissants complaining about the D-Day invasion of France back then being illegal. I'm sure you'll welcome your new islamic overlords. Remember, it's pronounced dhimmi.
Diggs, Colorado Springs, USA
Iraq is like a salt lick...it drew Al Qaida and other Islamic fundamentalist radicals like moths to a light. Nothing wrong with a few less Islamic jihadists to wreak havoc in our world. Funny how focused you all are on defeat when this appears to be quite positive news.
TD, Washington, US
But we are killing them there, not here in the US, not in Great Britain. These are terrorist you are feeling sorry for, from another Country who would destroy your way of life in the UK, just as the Germans would have done in WW11. To all you Chamberlains, you so quickly forget the past.
Terry Boone, Kansas City, USA
There may not have been an Al-Qaeda in Iraq before the US invaded. I suppose all you lefties around the world would prefrer the benevolent leader Sadam Hussein. WAKE UP!!! The Iraqi people have a chance at freedom and rule of the people. Get over your hate of the US and our current leadership.
Brian, Wasilla, USA
David,
There were none in Irag because they were all in Afghanistan (right next door). They didn't multiply, they just redistributed themselves. If we weren't fighting them in Iraq, we would be fighting them in Afghanistan and nearby countries. This is their war we are fighting. We were attacked.
Randy, Seattle, USA
What would you rather have for the innocent people of Iraq & Afganistan,Al-qeada brutally killing 1000's of Afgans EVERY DAY and Sadam brutally killing Iraq's people EVERYDAY?Both are gone. I wish you would take a trip to Iraq and hear85% of the people glad we went in. Our media slants it their way
Peter, Fresno, USA
Awesome job in turning the tide against al-Qaeda. All the comments about a civil war in Iraq and a defeat for the US were dead wrong. Your anti-American comments are an example of your refusal to admit that progress has been made. All you people have left to say is pathetic name calling. Go USA!!!
Simon, Tampa Florida, USA
some peopel seem to think that even though the name didn't show up the belief that drives Al-Kaida wasn't there. It was.
gregory Kopp, Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Europa
How about we congralate our forces who are doing a great job instead of taking this success as a reason to point to Bush's failings. Liberals want to hate the US so much and it makes me sick. I for one will give the media(and its liberal bias) the benefit of the doubt. Pray for our soldiers.
Matt, Johson,
To David -
You are using broken logic. You dont know that there were no Al-Qaeda in Iraq before the war. You "assume" that.
Gene Conrad, Little Rock, AR, USA
Yes there was no Al Qaeda before, but there was Saddam and Uday before. Now they have a democracy that seems to run better and better, and no Al Qaeda! Good things for Iraq are ahead. And Bush and the Iraqis should get the credit.
Claudia, Atlanta, USA
Phill seems to be the only person with brains here..Maybe some day the rest of you may figure it all out..Al-queada was in Iraq,They were everywhere..The problem was that they had no opposition unt