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Monday, April 30, 2007
Rabbi Reveals Name of the Messiah
Shortly before he died, one of Israel's most prominent rabbis wrote the name of the Messiah on a small note which he requested would remain sealed until now. When the note was opened, it revealed what many have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the Messiah.

A few months before he died, one of the nation’s most prominent rabbis, Yitzhak Kaduri, supposedly wrote the name of the Messiah on a small note which he requested would remain sealed until now. When the note was unsealed, it revealed what many have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the Messiah.

With the biblical name of Jesus, the Rabbi and kabbalist described the Messiah using six words and hinting that the initial letters form the name of the Messiah. The secret note said:

Concerning the letter abbreviation of the Messiah’s name, He will lift the people and prove that his word and law are valid.

Thisis I have signed in the month of mercy,
Yitzhak Kaduri

The Hebrew sentence (translated above in bold) with the hidden name of the Messiah reads: Yarim Ha’Am Veyokhiakh Shedvaro Vetorato Omdim

The initials spell the Hebrew name of Jesus, Yehoshua. Yehoshua and Yeshua are eectively the same name, derived from the same Hebrew root of the word “salvation” as documented in Zechariah 6:11 and Ezra 3:2. The same priest writes in Ezra, “Yeshua son of Yozadak” while writing in Zechariah “Yehoshua son of Yohozadak.” The priest adds the holy abbreviation of God’s name, ho, in the father’s name Yozadak and in the name Yeshua.

With one of Israel’s most prominent rabbis indicating the name of the Messiah is Yeshua, it is understandable why his last wish was to wait one year after his death before revealing what he wrote.

When the name of Yehoshua appeared in Kaduri’s message, ultra-Orthodox Jews from his Nahalat Yitzhak Yeshiva (seminary) in Jerusalem argued that their master did not leave the exact solution for decoding the Messiah’s name.

The revelation received scant coverage in the Israeli media. Only the Hebrew websites News First Class (Nfc) and Kaduri.net mentioned the Messiah note, insisting it was authentic. The Hebrew daily Ma'ariv ran a story on the note but described it as a forgery.

Jewish readers responded on the websites' forums with mixed feelings: “So this means Rabbi Kaduri was a Christian?” and “The Christians are dancing and celebrating,” were among the comments.

Israel Today spoke to two of Kaduri’s followers in Jerusalem who admitted that the note was authentic, but confusing for his followers as well. “We have no idea how the Rabbi got to this name of the Messiah,” one of them said.

Yet others completely deny any possibility that the note is authentic. Kaduri’s son, Rabbi David Kaduri, said that at the time the note was written (September 2005), his father’s physical condition made it impossible for him to write.


KADURI'S PORTRAYAL OF THE MESSIAH

A few months before Kaduri died at the age of 108, he surprised his followers when he told them that he met the Messiah. Kaduri gave a message in his synagogue on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, teaching how to recognize the Messiah. He also mentioned that the Messiah would appear to Israel after Ariel Sharon’s death. (The former prime minister is still in a coma after suffering a massive stroke more than a year ago.)

Other rabbis predict the same, including Rabbi Haim Cohen, kabbalist Nir Ben Artzi and the wife of Rabbi Haim Kneiveskzy.

Kaduri’s grandson, Rabbi Yosef Kaduri, said his grandfather spoke many times during his last days about the coming of the Messiah and redemption through the Messiah.

His spiritual portrayals of the Messiah—reminiscent of New Testament accounts—were published on the websites Kaduri.net and Nfc:

“It is hard for many good people in society to understand the person of the Messiah. The leadership and order of a Messiah of flesh and blood is hard to accept for many in the nation. As leader, the Messiah will not hold any office, but will be among the people and use the media to communicate. His reign will be pure and without personal or political desire. During his dominion, only righteousness and truth will reign.

“Will all believe in the Messiah right away? No, in the beginning some of us will believe in him and some not. It will be easier for non-religious people to follow the Messiah than for Orthodox people.

“The revelation of the Messiah will be fullled in two stages: First, he will actively confirm his position as Messiah without knowing himself that he is the Messiah. Then he will reveal himself to some Jews, not necessarily to wise Torah scholars. It can be even simple people. Only then he will reveal himself to the whole nation. The people will wonder and say: ‘What, that’s the Messiah?’ Many have known his name but have not believed that he is the Messiah.”


FAREWELL TO A 'TSADIK'

Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri was known for his photographic memory and his memorization of the Bible, the Talmud, Rashi and other Jewish writings. He knew Jewish sages and celebrities of the last century and rabbis who lived in the Holy Land and kept the faith alive before the State of Israel was born.

Kaduri was not only highly esteemed because of his age of 108. He was charismatic and wise, and chief rabbis looked up to him as a Tsadik, a righteous man or saint. He would give advice and blessings to everyone who asked. Thousands visited him to ask for counsel or healing. His followers speak of many miracles and his students say that he predicted many disasters.

When he died, more than 200,000 people joined the funeral procession on the streets of Jerusalem to pay their respects as he was taken to hisfinal resting place.

“When he comes, the Messiah will rescue Jerusalem from foreign religions that want to rule the city,” Kaduri once said. “They will not succeed for they will fight against one another.”


THE RABBI'S FOLLOWERS REACT

In an interview with Israel Today, Rabbi David Kaduri, the 80-year-old son of the late Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri, denied that his father left a note with the name Yeshua just before he died.

“It’s not his writing,” he said when we showed him a copy of the note.

During a nighttime meeting in the Nahalat Yitzhak Yeshiva in Jerusalem, books with the elder Kaduri’s handwriting from 80 years ago were presented to us in an attempt to prove that the Messiah note was not authentic.

When we told Rabbi Kaduri that his father’s official website (www.kaduri.net) had mentioned the Messiah note, he was shocked. “Oh no! That’s blasphemy. The people could understand that my father pointed to him [the Messiah of the Christians].”

David Kaduri confirmed, however, that in his last year, his father had talked and dreamed almost exclusively about the Messiah and his coming. “My father has met the Messiah in a vision,” he said, “and told us that he would come soon.”

Israel Today was given access to many of the rabbi's manuscripts, written in his own hand for the exclusive use of his students. Most striking were the cross-like symbols painted by Kaduri all over the pages. In the Jewish tradition, one does not use crosses. In fact, even the use of a plus sign is discouraged because it might be mistaken for a cross.

But there they were, scribbled in the rabbi's own hand. When we asked what those symbols meant, Rabbi David Kaduri said they were “signs of the angel." Pressed further about the meaning of the “signs of the angel," he said he had no idea. Rabbi David Kaduri went on to explain that only his father had had a spiritual relationship with God and had met the Messiah in his dreams.

Orthodox Jews around the Nahalat Yitzhak Yeshiva told Israel Today a few weeks later that the story about the secret note of Rabbi Kaduri should never have come out, and that it had damaged the name the revered old sage.

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1 .  The name of Mashiach is here. Pt 2
The name of the MASHIACH within the letter of Kaduri is not found through judgment of the eyes
for if it is then the correct name of mashiach cannot be found. For kaduri uses the technique of pictogram to reveal the abbreviation of the name of mashiach. This pictogram actually is not found in the words of kaduri but on the letter itself on the far left of the note. This pictogram shape is as follows:

NFC

Three letters followed by an arrow shape

Here in these three letters we find the name of the Branch. This is how it is found. The arrow informs us that we must place the last letter first as follows:

cnf

By joining the three letters together we get the two initials of the name of mashiach as follows:

af

These two letters form in capitals AF.

Nice to meet you all.Keep up the good work.

M


 
Andrew Frew   6/2/2007 12:00 PM
2 .  The name of Mashiach is here
Now let us delve deeper and actually look at the letter of Kaduri.

Many kabbakists and jews and christians have been astonished that the name YeHOSHUA should be formed from the first letters of “Yorum Ho’om V’yochiach SHedivrey V’torosoy Omdim” and in this respect mashiach ben david does restore the holiness in jewish eyes of mashiach ben joseph. Now let us move on to find the true abbreviation of the name of the MASHIACH Ben David within the letter of Kaduri.

Before we uncover the name of Mashiach within the letter let me first advice you that the teaching of mashiach as kaduri understoond takes place through pictograms this is born out by chapter 11 verse 3 *he shall not judge with his eyes* from the first major prophet of the tanach. Considering this in our analysis of the note of Kaduri I we shall now decipher the name of Mashiach from the letter of kaduri.

The name of the MASHIACH within the letter of Kaduri is not found through judgment of the eyes
for if it is then the correct n
 
Andrew Frew   6/2/2007 11:57 AM
3 .  The Moshiach is Rebekah of Norway...
In the sea was Your way,

And Your Path
went through
the mighty waters...

And Your Footsteps
were not known...

You led Your Nation
like a flock,
by the hand
of Moses and Aron...
Psalm 77:20-21

Bringing our Nation
back to the Truth
and beauty
of the Jewish Faith...

http://www.outreachjudaism.org/

 
Rebekah   6/1/2007 2:38 PM
4 .  Scripture Predicts
Romans 11 7-12 NLT
7 So this is the situation: Most of the people of Israel have not found the favor of God they are looking for so earnestly. A few have—the ones God has chosen—but the hearts of the rest were hardened. 8 As the Scriptures say,
“God has put them into a deep sleep.
To this day he has shut their eyes so they do not see,
and closed their ears so they do not hear.”[a]
9 Likewise, David said,
“Let their bountiful table become a snare,
a trap that makes them think all is well.
Let their blessings cause them to stumble,
and let them get what they deserve.
10 Let their eyes go blind so they cannot see,
and let their backs be bent forever.”[b]
11 Did God’s people stumble and fall beyond recovery? Of course not! They were disobedient, so God made salvation available to the Gentiles. But he wanted his own people to become jealous and claim it for themselves. 12 Now if the Gentiles were enriched because the people of Israel turne
 
r buck   6/1/2007 1:25 PM
5 .  Who is the Messiah?
gods-kingdom.org Who is a Jew? Who is an Israelite? The Struggle for The Birthright. Secrets of Time. Creations Jubilee. Passover ,Pentecost , Feast of Tabernacles Spiritual understanding is needed.Carnal mind is emnity against The Most High, our Father...
 
Idaho Gem   6/1/2007 9:30 AM
6 .  Isaiah 4:5 -”...then the Lord will above every .....
Below is the Israel part of a vision given to someone which I think all relates to what Father God is currently doing around the globe.
( full vision on website:http://www.etpv.org/1998/seacanoe.html )
Also a scripture that was quickened to me (when I first read that vision in the 1990s) was: Isaiah 4:5 -”...then the Lord will above every dwelling place of Mount Zion, and above her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by the day and the shinning of a flaming fire by night. For over all the glory ther will be a covering.”

The Deep Sea Canoe Vision
by Rev. Michael Maeliau

Scene 5-ISRAEL
As the circle was now complete, the wave zoomed in on Jerusalem from all sides. As the wave met in Jerusalem, it shot up into the Heavens like a great mighty pillar of water or cloud. As it reached deep in the sky, it opened up like a great big mushroom that gradually spread until it enveloped the whole earth.
At this point, a voice came out from the cloud saying, "And the Glory of the Lord shall c
 
A.Christian   6/1/2007 8:45 AM
7 .  Isaiah 4:5 -”...then the Lord will above every .....
“For God speaks once, yea twice, yet man perceives it not. In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed Then he opens the ears of men and seals their instruction.”    Job 33: 14-16

The Holy Spirit is outpouring revelation in great magnitude in the Middle East through the divine agencies of dreams and visions in fulfillment of Joel 2:28 “…your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions.”
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Multitudes Reaching for Jesus
http://www.jesusvisions.org/chapt04.shtml

Accounts Multiply Of Muslims Who Have Encountered Christ in Unusual Dreams
By Michael H. Brown
http://www.spiritdaily.org/Sign_Wonders/Mideast%20in%20prophecy/muslimdreams.htm


Muslims Follow Jesus
Friday Fax
2005 Issue 23, 10 June
http://www.etpv.org/2005/musfol.html
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Below is the Israel part of a vision given to someone which I think all relates to what Father God is curren
 
A.Christian   6/1/2007 8:41 AM
8 .  Joel 2:28 “…your old men shall dream dreams, your young men
“For God speaks once, yea twice, yet man perceives it not. In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed Then he opens the ears of men and seals their instruction.”    Job 33: 14-16

The Holy Spirit is outpouring revelation in great magnitude in the Middle East through the divine agencies of dreams and visions in fulfillment of Joel 2:28 “…your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions.”
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Just letting everyone know that I think we are living in the times when these scriptures (above), are being fulfilled as it is not it is not just the christians who have been hearing and seeing visions of Jesus. Please check out these below.

With Blessings in Jesus’ name. Praise Father God for His Grace and Mercy, Care and Love, towards us all.
A Christian follower of Jesus.


The Jesus Visions
Signs and Wonders In the Muslim World:
http://www.jesusvisions.org/chapt11.shtml

M
 
A.Christian   6/1/2007 8:33 AM
9 .  Spirit of Awakening POUR OUT
Praise God for the Spirit of Awakening will give sight to see the true Messiah Jesus. And even as Jerusalem flooded (something completely unusual) so will the Holy Spirit pour out in the midst and the people will begin to wake and the veil will be taken away.
 
TerriBetts   5/31/2007 5:41 PM
10 .  Look unto Me - Hashem - and be ye saved...
all the ends of the earth
for I am God,
and there is none else.

By Myself have I sworn,
the word is gone forth
from My mouth
in righteousness,
and shall not come back,

that unto Me - GOD
every knee shall bow,
every tongue shall swear.

Only in the LORD,
shall one say of Me,
is victory and strength
even to Him
shall men come
in confusion,
all they that were
incensed against Him.

In the LORD shall
all the seed of Israel
be justified,
and shall glory.
Isaiah 45:22-25

 
Rebekah   5/31/2007 1:34 AM
11 .  Surely we will shut up the kingdom of heaven,
neither will we
suffer the Christians

that are entering
to go in...

http://www.outreachjudaism.org/
 
Rebekah   5/31/2007 1:26 AM
12 .  Who has the keys to the kingdom of heaven?
And I also say to you
that you are Peter,
and on this rock
I will build My church,
and the gates of Hades
shall not prevail against it.

And I will give you
- Peter - the keys
of the kingdom of heaven.
Matt 16:18-19

But He turned
and said to Peter,

Get behind Me, Satan!
You are an offense to Me,
for you are not mindful
of the things of God,
but the things of men.
Matt 16:23

Jesus - I am He
who lives
and was dead
and behold,
I am alive
forevermore...
Amen.

And I have the keys
of Hades and of Death.
Rev. 1:18

 
Rebekah   5/31/2007 1:25 AM
13 .  And I say to you - that many will come...
from east and west,
and sit down
with Abraham,
Isaac, and Jacob
IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.
Matthew 8:11

Crossreferences:
Matthew 8:11 + Luke 13:28,29

There will be weeping
and gnashing of teeth,
when you - Christians

see Abraham
and Isaac and Jacob
and all the prophets

IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD

and YOURSELVES
thrust out...
They will come
from the east
and the west,
from the north
and the south,
and sit down

IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
Luke 13:28,29

 
Rebekah   5/31/2007 1:21 AM
14 .  But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
For you shut up
the kingdom of heaven
against men

for you neither
go in yourselves,

nor do you allow
those who are
entering

to go in.

Matt 23:13 NKJ

 
Rebekah   5/31/2007 1:19 AM
15 .  The Messiah "Yeshua" article
Praise the LORD, the Holy Scriptures are being fulfilled in the generation of people who were alive when Israel came back into the Holy Land as a nation in 1948. Yeshua promised that he would come back and redeem his people, Israel. I pray that the orthodox people will soon come to faith in the Messiah.
 
Ruby Brown   5/30/2007 9:11 PM
16 .  Rabbi Reveals Name of the Messiah
That is so amazing that God appeared to him and the Rabbi wrote down the Messiah''s name. It is ashame that his son is in denial. We all know the truth and the Rabbi is with our Father in Heaven.
 
Becca   5/30/2007 8:57 PM
17 .  The Messiah "Yeshua"
How great is our God
 
Lisa   5/30/2007 6:40 PM
18 .  The Name of the Messiah

...Why is the Name of GD represented by four of the five letters found in the Name of Yahudah/Judah, all of these letters written in the same order as in the Name of YHWH who is GD, seen in just omitting the fourth letter in the Name of Yahudah/Judah {as spelled in Hebrew}. If one will only look, Perez the son of Yahudah the patriarch is by the law the firstborn of these two twins of Tamar''s {Deut: 25: 5, 6}. This places Perez with Esau, Reuben and Manasseh as being "firstborn" children. One has to look at the firstborn''s in what happens to them at the author''s hands to see the authors writing hand moving against the firstborn. Who is Zerach, Perez''s twin then? This is Perez''s twin brother who stands in Jacob''s place and who brings with him the Name of "YHWH" as a cover for all JEWs. Are there any more "named" twins to follow this birth throughout the rest of the tanakh? Here in these twins of Tamar''s can be seen the story of Esau and Jacob revisited. The messiah is the one who gives a son to Judah
 
Michael   5/30/2007 6:07 PM
19 .  The Messiah "Yeshua"
How great is our God
 
Lisa   5/30/2007 5:54 PM
20 .  Yeshua Ha-Mashiach!
Jesus is Lord and He is soon to return. He will come for His Bride and all will KNOW that He is the Messiah. He will revel Himself to all. Every Kneww shall bow and EVERY tongue will confess Him as Lord. He is pure and Holy and He will reign FOREVER. There shall be NO END to His Kingdom. Maranatha!!!
 
Janet E. Taylor   5/30/2007 4:04 PM
21 .  Righteousness
Paul...a famous (or infamous) jewish scholar wrote centuries ago, Was Abraham made righteous before or after the act of circumcision? Well it was only after HA SHEM declared him to be righteous that he entered into the ritual of circumcision. So it was not by the observance of ritual/law that Abraham was justified in HA SHEM''s sight...it was when he believed HIM that he was counted as righteous. This principle is inescapable. It was also through this man that the idea of a sacrificed son was demonstrated. Why then do we not see that ONE, was to be provided by HA SHEM himself..the Lamb. This is not a Gentile thing, or even a Jewish thing, but it is a NEW thing from HA SHEM (may his name be forever praised). So that ALL who, like Avrahaim, believe HIM are counted as righteous. The TORAH and the prophets have not been done away with, but completed in MESSIAH who has like Boaz, bought back what was lost and redeemed his kinsmen, Israel first and then also Ruth the GENTILE.
Don''t look at what has been
 
Friend of Israel   5/30/2007 2:54 PM
22 .  I - Jesus Christ Superstar - am He who lives and was dead,
and behold,
I am alive
forevermore...
Amen.

And I have the keys
of Hades and of Death.
Rev. 1:18

 
Moshiach: Rebekah   5/30/2007 10:06 AM
23 .  R'' Kaduri was also quoted as saying...
the imminent arrival
of the Moshiach
will save Jerusalem
from Islam and Christianity
that wish to take Jerusalem
from the Jewish Nation :))

Shortcut to: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55765

And I will put
enmity Between you (Satan)
and the woman, (Rebekah)
And between your seed
and her Seed

He (GOD) shall
bruise your head,

And you (Rebekah)
shall bruise His heel.
Gen 3:15 NKJ

...even from there - Norway
you will kill H-im (Rashi).

One of our guys
really made it to the top!

 
Moshiach: Rebekah   5/30/2007 10:01 AM
24 .  Rabbi Kaduri
As a Christian, with many Messianic Jewish friends, I had chill bumps and tears reading this article. I wish he had been able to bring his apparent belief in Jesus to light before he died only he knows why he couldn''t but at least he had the courage to leave his belief in Christ behind in writing.
 
Jo Johnson - Iraq   5/30/2007 9:31 AM
25 .  Who is a God like unto Thee,
that pardoneth
the iniquity,
and passeth by
the transgression
of the remnant
of His heritage?

He retaineth not
His anger for ever,
because He
delighteth in mercy.
Mi 7:18

Ex 34:6-7
Ps 103:8,9 + Joel 2:13

And all thy children
shall be taught of the LORD
and great shall be
the peace of thy children.
Is 54:13

Jer 32:33 + Jer 31:13(14)

 
Norway   5/29/2007 1:24 PM
26 .  In those days, and in that time, saith the LORD,
the iniquity of Israel
shall be sought for,
and there shall be none,
and the sins of Judah,
and they shall
not be found

for I will pardon them

whom I leave
as a remnant.
Jer 50:20

Jer 31:33(34)
Is 43:25 + Mi 7:18,19

 
Norway   5/29/2007 1:22 PM
27 .  And this for Judah, and he said: Hear, LORD,
the voice of Judah,
and bring him
in unto his people
his hands shall
contend for him,
and Thou shalt be
a help against his
adversaries.
Deut 33:7

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/e/et/et0533.htm

And the remnant of Jacob
shall be among the nations,
in the midst of many peoples,
as a lion among
the beasts of the forest,
as a young lion among
the flocks of sheep,
who, if he go through,
treadeth down
and teareth in pieces,
and there is none to deliver.
Mi 5:7

I have made a covenant
with My chosen,
I have sworn
unto David My servant:
For ever will I
establish thy seed,
and build up thy throne
to all generations. Selah
Ps 89:4-5

 
Norway   5/29/2007 1:20 PM
28 .  Behold a people that riseth up as a lioness,
and as a lion
doth he lift himself up
he shall not lie down
until he eat of the prey,
and drink the blood
of the slain.
Num 23:24
Gen 49:9

Judah is a lions whelp
from the prey, my son,
thou art gone up.
He stooped down,
he couched as a lion,
and as a lioness
who shall rouse him up?
Gen 49:9

Num 23:24
Deut 33:7 + Mi 5:7

 
Norway   5/29/2007 1:18 PM
29 .  He couched, he lay down as a lion,
and as a lioness
who shall rouse him up?
Blessed be every one
that blesseth thee,
and cursed be every one
that curseth thee.
Num 24:9

Num 23:24 + Gen 49:9
Gen 12:3 + Gen 27:29

 
Norway   5/29/2007 1:16 PM
30 .  And the LORD said unto her:
Two nations are in thy womb,
and two peoples
shall be separated
from thy bowels
and the one people
shall be stronger - the Jews
than the other people

and the elder - Esau/Edom
shall serve
the younger. - Jacob
Gen 25:23
Gen 27:29 + Mal 1:2,3

And thy seed
shall be as the dust
of the earth,
and thou shalt
spread abroad
to the west,
and to the east,
and to the north,
and to the south.
And in thee and
in thy seed
shall all the families
of the earth be blessed.
Gen 28:14

Gen 12:3 + Gen 18:18
Gen 22:17,18 + Gen 26:4

 
Norway   5/29/2007 1:14 PM
31 .  *Jerusalem and Israel are likened to a mother
nursing her child.
Just as a baby is nursed
without any effort on his part,
so will you enjoy the endless prosperity that will be bestowed upon you (Radak)

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/e/et/et1066.htm

 
Norway   5/29/2007 1:09 PM
32 .  And they blessed Rebekah,
and said unto her:
Our sister, be thou
the mother of thousands
of ten thousands,
and let thy seed possess
the gate of those
that hate THEM. – the Jews.
Gen 24:60
Gen 22:17

and in thy seed
shall all the nations
of the earth be blessed

because thou
hast hearkened to My voice.
Gen 22:18
Gen 12:3

Let peoples serve thee,
and nations bow
down to thee.

Be lord over
(Ephraim -Ten Lost Tribes)
thy brethren,

and let thy mothers*
sons (the Jews)
bow down to thee.
Cursed be every one
that curseth thee,
and blessed be every one
that blesseth thee.
Gen 27:29
+ Gen 25:23
Gen 12:3 + Num 24:9

 
Norway   5/29/2007 1:07 PM
33 .  Norway you say you are not Tovia Singer. What is your name?
or are you so ashamed of your conflicting writings that you have to use a pseudonym?
 
Lucille Gandon   5/29/2007 3:10 AM
34 .  And the remnant of Jacob shall be in the midst
of many peoples,
as dew from the LORD,*
as showers upon the grass,
that are not looked for
from man, nor awaited at
the hands of the sons of men.
Micha 5:6

*When the redemption
is imminent and the forces
of Gog converge upon Jerusalem,

the remnant of Israel
will be among them.

And that will be
as God-given
a phenomenon
as dew and rain,

because no human being
would or could have
brought it about (Radak).

 
The woman: Norway - not Rabbi Tovia Singer   5/29/2007 1:22 AM
35 .  *Another name for Betlehem of Judah
(Gen. 48:7).
As the city of Ruth,
a convert from Moab,
Bethlehem was an unlikely
source of leadership,
but it produced David,
the ancestor of the Moshiach.

**The hardships of exile
will become as intense
as labor pains, but it will end
with the rebirth
of the Jewish nation (Kara),

and the return
of the Moshiachs brethren.

 
The woman: Norway   5/29/2007 1:18 AM
36 .  But thou, Beth-lehem Ephrathah,*
which art little to be among
the thousands of Judah,
out of thee shall one come
forth unto Me that is to be
ruler in Israel whose goings
forth are from of old,
from ancient days.

Therefore will He give them up,
until the time that she who travaileth hath brought forth

then the residue of his brethren
shall return with the children
of Israel.**

And he shall stand,
and shall feed his flock
in the strength of the LORD,
in the majesty of the name
of the LORD his God

and they shall abide,
for then shall he be great
unto the ends of the earth.
Micha 5:1-3

 
The woman: Norway   5/29/2007 1:17 AM
37 .  *Jerusalem and Israel are likened to a mother
nursing her child.
Just as a baby is nursed
without any effort on his part,
so will you enjoy the endless prosperity that will be bestowed upon you (Radak)

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/e/et/et1066.htm

 
The woman: Norway   5/29/2007 1:12 AM
38 .  Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her,
all ye that love her
rejoice for joy with her,
all ye that mourn for her
Is 66:10

That ye may suck,
and be satisfied
with the breast of her
consolations *

that ye may drink deeply
with delight
of the abundance
of her glory.

For thus saith the LORD:
Behold, I will extend peace
to her like a river...

and the wealth
of the nations
like an overflowing stream,
and ye shall suck thereof:
Ye shall be borne
upon the side,
and shall be dandled
upon the knees.
Isaiah 66:11-12

 
The woman: Norway   5/29/2007 1:10 AM
39 .  Who hath heard such a thing?
Who hath seen such things?

Is a land born in one day?
Is a nation brought
forth at once?

For as soon as Zion
travailed, she brought
forth her children.
Is 66:8

Shall I bring (a woman)
to the birth, and not
cause to bring forth? *
saith the LORD
Shall I that cause
to bring forth
shut the womb?
saith thy God.
Is 66:9

* When the process
of redemption begins,
you may be sure that it
will be carried through
to its culmination.

 
The woman: Norway   5/29/2007 1:05 AM
40 .  Yea, before the child shall know...
to refuse the evil,
and choose the good,
the land whose TWO KINGS
(Christianity & Islam)

thou hast a horror of
shall be forsaken.
Isaiah 7:16

and it shall come to pass,
for the abundance of milk
that they shall give,
he shall eat curd
for curd and honey
shall every one eat

that is left in the midst
of the land.
Isaiah 7:22

Before she* travailed,
she brought forth
before her pain came,
she was delivered
of a man-child.
Isaiah 66:7

*Zions redemption
will come quickly
and painlessly.

 
The woman: Norway   5/29/2007 1:01 AM
41 .  Therefore the Lord Himself shall give you a sign:
behold, the YOUNG WOMAN
shall conceive, and bear a son,
and shall call his name Immanuel.*
Is 7:14

*Either Isaiahs (Rashi) or Ahaz (Radak) YOUNG WIFE would
have a son and, through
prophetic inspiration, would
give him the name Immanuel,
which means - God is With Us
- thus in effect prophesying

THAT JUDAH WILL BE
SAVED FROM THE THREAT
of Rezin and Pekah.

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/e/et/et1007.htm

Isaiah 7:15
Curd and honey shall he eat,
when he knoweth to refuse
the evil, and choose the good.

*Although the land is now impoverished, there will be
such a prosperity that from
an early age the child will
be pampered with the richest delicacies.

This prophesy is explained
in verses Is 7:16 and 7:22.

 
The woman: Norway   5/29/2007 12:56 AM
42 .  Norway
As Israel slew the prophets, so they slew their Messiah. The Law could only show you that you could not keep it. When the Torah could take you no furtherin the body of Moses, it was Joshua (Yeshua) who took you into the promised land. Tovia, why don''t you just print out the entire scripture, what is this slew of messages.
Another living model.In Genesis37 Israel conspired to kill or cast out Joseph (who God''s hand was upon) They cast him into a pit, and they sat down. Loving brothers. I can imagine the screams.It is not until Gen 42 when they went unbeknownst to Joseph, our Messiah type, the Savior of the world. In verse 21 God is showing Israel''s deafness,
they said WE WOULD NOT HEAR, and Reuben repeats it in verse 22, YE WOULD NOT HEAR.
How do you see Israel as "HE" it is talking about your Messiah in Isaiah 53. Isaiah disagrees with you, and sees Israel or Zion as a woman
Isa 66:7 Before she travailed, she brought forth before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.
Is
 
Mike   5/29/2007 12:18 AM
43 .  The Remnant of Israel went to their massacre...
as sheep to the slaughter.

Isaiah 53:7
He was oppressed,
though he humbled himself
and opened not his mouth
as a lamb that is led
to the slaughter,
and as a sheep
that before her
shearers is dumb yea,
he opened not his mouth.

Psalm 18:28
For You will save
THE AFFLICTED NATION
and you will bring down
haughty looks.

The Bible explicitly
and repeatedly descibes
the Jewish People as hard hit
and despised of the nations,

Psalm 44 is like Isaiah 53

Ezekiel 34:15-16

...So I shepherded
the flock for slaughter,*
truly the most
miserable of the sheep.
Zec 11:4-5,7

* A reference to
the persecuted Jewish People.

Holocaust Memorial Day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4ByWZcwjp4

 
Norway   5/28/2007 4:23 PM
44 .  All we like sheep did go astray...
we turned every one
to his own way
and the LORD hath made
to light on him
the iniquity of us all.
Is 53:6

and ye shall be unto Me
a kingdom of priests,*
and a holy nation.
Ex 19:6

* The entire Nation
is to be dedicated to leading
the world toward an understanding and acceptance of GODs mission.

The role of the priesthood
is to bear iniquity.

But ye shall be named
the priests of the LORD,
men shall call you
the ministers of our God.*
Is 61:6-9

* As in the days of Solomon.
1 Kings 10:22.

And the LORD
said unto Aaron:
Thou and thy sons
and thy fathers house
with thee shall bear
the iniquity of the sanctuary
and thou and thy sons
with thee shall bear
the iniquity
of your priesthood.
Num 18:1

 
Norway   5/28/2007 4:21 PM
45 .  They did not do that. It is evident for us now...
that the Jewish People
have suffered,
and when they did
they suffered
because of our sin.

When we sinned
we persecuted the Jews.
Who suffered as a result
of this persecution?
The Jewish People

Ezekiel 36:6-9 -

...neither will I suffer
the shame of the nations
any more to be heard
against thee,
neither shalt thou bear
the reproach of the peoples
any more, neither shalt
thou cause thy nations
to stumble any more,
saith the Lord GOD.
Ezekiel 36:15

 
Norway   5/28/2007 4:19 PM
46 .  When Christians persecuted the Jews...
in the name of Jesus
did they sin?

Good Christians would say -Yes,
they who persecuted the Jews
during the crusades sinned gravely.

What will they say in the endtime?
In the end time they will realize,
that the reason
- why the Jewish People
have hold out suffering,
persecution,pain and
unwanted deaths,
is not of their sin of denying
and killing Jesus, but
on the other hand as a result
of the sin of the world.

When the gentile kings
sinned, - what did they do?

They punished and persecuted
the Jews, that was their sin.

Who suffered
as a result of this sin?
The Jewish People.

And this will be their
recognition in the end time.

Now we realize that
the Jewish Peoples suffering,
was a result of our sin,
not because of their sin
that they killed Jesus,
not because of their sin
of rejecting His son.

 
Norway   5/28/2007 4:18 PM
47 .  Messiah
He will not know he is Messiah?
That doesn''t sound like Jesus.
 
David   5/28/2007 4:16 PM
48 .  The leaders of the world will acknowledge...
that Israel suffered as
a result of the crimes
of the nations.

Isaiah 53:4-5
Surely our diseases
he did bear,
and our pains he carried
whereas we did esteem
him stricken,
smitten of God,
and afflicted.

But he was wounded
because of our
transgressions,
he was crushed
because of our iniquities:
the chastisement
of our welfare
was upon him,
and with his stripes -
- we were healed.

*We brought suffering
upon Israel for our own
selfish purposes it was not,
as we had claimed,
that God was punishing
Israel for its own evil behavior.

Holocaust How It Really Was

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFObK1B68qE&NR;

 
Norway   5/28/2007 4:16 PM
49 .  God wanted the Jews TO SEE...
the full extent of the salvation,
so He had the sea toss
the bodies of the dead
Egyptians onto the shore
where the Jews had emerged.

Otherwise, the Jews
might think, Just as we came
out on this bank,
so the Egyptians came up
on the other side
and will pursue us (Rashi).

YOUR RIGHT HAND, ADONAI,
is sublimely powerful
YOUR RIGHT HAND, ADONAI,
SHATTERS THE FOE.
Ex 15:6

 
Norway   5/28/2007 4:15 PM
50 .  For ye shall not go out in haste...
neither shall ye go
by flight for the LORD
will go before you,
and the God of Israel
will be your rearward.
Is 52:12

...the great ordeals
which you yourself saw,
and the signs, wonders,
STRONG HAND and
OUTSTRETCHED ARM

by which ADONAI
your God
BROUGHT you OUT
ADONAI WILL DO
the same to
all the peoples
of whom you are afraid.
Deut 7:19

When Israel saw
the mighty deed
that ADONAI
had performed
against the Egyptians,
the people feared ADONAI,
and they believed in ADONAI
and in his servant Moshe.
Ex 14:31

 
Norway   5/28/2007 4:11 PM
51 .  Break forth into joy, sing together,
ye waste places
of Jerusalem for the LORD
hath comforted His people,
He hath redeemed Jerusalem.

The LORD hath
made bare

His holy Arm
IN THE EYES
of all the nations
and all the ends
of the earth

SHALL SEE :)
the salvation of our GOD

Depart ye, depart ye,
go ye out from thence,*
touch no unclean thing
go ye out of the midst
of her be ye clean,
ye that bear the vessels
of the LORD.
Is 52:11

* Leave the lands
of your dispersion.
The redeemed Jews
should cleanse themselves
spiritually, for their armor
must be their dedication
to God and the Torah
(Ibn Ezra, Radak).

 
Norway   5/28/2007 4:08 PM
52 .  Who believes our report? To whom is the Arm...
of ADONAI revealed?
Isaiah 53:1


Arm of ADONAI refers in the Scripture to the spiritual
and military salvation
of the Jewish People

from the Gentiles
who tyrannize them.

Israels last vindication
and salvation

IN THE EYES
of the many nations
is a central theme in the last
27 chapters of Isaiah.

The salvation of
the afflicted Nation
in the presence
of their persecutors
The Gentile Nations.

 
Norway   5/28/2007 4:06 PM
53 .  As in the days when you came out of Egypt,
I will show them wonders.*
The nations will see

AND BE PUT TO SHAME
in spite of all their power.
They will cover their mouths
with their hands,
and their ears
will be deafened.
Micah 7:15-16

* God responds with
a pledge of great miracles.

Isaiah 41 is the first
of the Servant Songs

All those who
were angry with you
(the Servant – Israel)
will be disgraced,
put to shame
THOSE WHO FOUGHT
AGAINST YOU

WILL BE DESTROYED
BROUGHT TO NOTHING.
Isaiah 41:11

 
Norway   5/28/2007 4:04 PM
54 .  The revealing shock, which the Gentile nations
will experience
in the end times,
is a usual theme
in the Hebrew Bible.

Think also that there no places
in the Tanakh is told that
the Jewish People shall be
surprised. They will never seek
the gentiles for spiritual guidance.

On the other hand
the Bible tells us that in
the endtimes 10 gentiles
of different language will grab
the shirt of a Jew, and say:

Let us go with you,
because wehave heard
that God is with you.
Zech 8

 
Norway   5/28/2007 4:03 PM
55 .  Many peoples have been reading Isaiah 53
for years, without
asking this question.
Who is speaking?

The Gentile kings
the kings of the nations
is speaking here
in the messianic age.

The kings of the nations
are speaking here
frozen stiff, in their
astonishment because
what they are witnessing
is in stark contrast to what
they earlier have believed.

In advance you can see that
the first question will be:
Who would have believed this?

They are totally amazed over
that the Jewish People
- the Servant Israel,
who all the nations together
have despised, looked down on,
who have suffered in the end
is justified and enjoys
the salvation from GOD

 
Norway   5/28/2007 4:01 PM
56 .  Behold, My servant shall prosper,
he shall be exalted
and lifted up,
and shall be very high.
Isaiah 52:13

I.e., Gods Servant Israel
- the Jewish People.

According as many
were appalled
at thee so marred
was his visage
unlike that of a man,
and his form unlike
that of the sons of men.
Is 52:14

So now he will
startle many nations
because of him,*
kings will be speechless.
For they will see
what they
had not been told,
they will ponder things
they had never heard."
Is 52:15

*Just as the Servant - Israel
/the Jewish People had once
been astonishingly degraded,
so it will astonish the nations
by its exaltedness when
the time of Redemption arrives.

 
Norway   5/28/2007 3:58 PM
57 .  Who was pierced..?
Who was pierced..?
They will
look to Me - Hashem
because of those
- all the Jews...
whom they (the nations)
have stabbed *
they will mourn
over him (Isaiah 53)
as one mourns over
an (only) child,
and be embittered
over him
like the embitterment
over a (deceased)
firstborn.
Zec 12:10

*The salvation will be
so complete, that people
will be astonished
if even one man
is killed by the enemy
(Radak).

The Suffering Servant
of Isaiah 53 - The Jewish People.

Listen for Free :)

http://www.outreachjudaism.org/biblical.html

 
Norway   5/28/2007 3:55 PM
58 .  And I will pour upon the house of David,
and upon the inhabitants
of Jerusalem,
the spirit of grace
and of supplication

and they shall look unto Me
because they have

thrust him through

and they shall mourn
for him, as one mourneth
for his only son,
and shall be in bitterness
for him, as one
that is in bitterness
for his first-born.
Zech 12:10
Hebrew Bible

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/e/et/et2312.htm

Christian Bible:
And I will pour
on the house of David
and on the inhabitants
of Jerusalem
the Spirit of grace
and supplication

then they will look on Me
whom they pierced. !!!

Yes, they will mourn
for Him as one mourns
for his only son,
and grieve for Him
as one grieves for a firstborn.
Zech 12:10 NKJ

 
Norway   5/28/2007 3:53 PM
59 .  But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve...
by his craftiness,

so your minds may be
corrupted from
the simplicity

that is in Christ. :))
2 Cor 11:3

 
Norway   5/28/2007 3:09 PM
60 .  Look Unto Me
There is a time coming in Israel when 2/3 of Israel will perish, the remnants salvation is going to come from the Messiah Israel had crucified.....thru Grace when they call out His name.
Zec 12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.
Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Zec 12:11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
Zec 12:12 And the land
 
Mike   5/28/2007 3:04 PM
61 .  Norway : DEAPH & BLIND & ARROGANT
Stop spreading venoms. you are the big LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR
Shame on you
 
Rulph   5/28/2007 2:37 PM
62 .  Rulph: And I will put enmity Between you...
and the woman,
And between
your seed
and her Seed

He (GOD) shall
bruise your head,
(the father of lies)

And you (the woman)
shall bruise His heel."
Gen 3:15 NKJ

...even from there - Norway
you will kill H-im (Rashi).

The woman
is representing
the Jewish people.

 
Norway   5/28/2007 1:51 PM
63 .  Mike: Look unto Me, - Hashem, and be ye saved,
all the ends of the earth
for I am God,
and there is none else.

By Myself have I sworn,
the word is gone forth
from My mouth
in righteousness,
and shall not come back,

that unto Me
every knee shall bow,
every tongue shall swear.

Only in the LORD,
shall one say of Me,
is victory and strength
even to Him
shall men come
in confusion,
all they that were
incensed against Him.

In the LORD
shall all the seed
of Israel be justified,
and shall glory.
Isaiah 45:22-25

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/e/et/et1045.htm

 
Norway   5/28/2007 1:42 PM
64 .  re:how many days and how many nights
Sorry Rabbi didn''t see the mention of my name. Instead of debating that point of 3 days, I will later. I prefer to show you this. When Joseph demanded to see their youngest brother in Gen42:20 he bound Simeon (hearing) and when they returned with their youngest brother Benoni, the son of my sorrows (Yeshua being a man of sorrows) named by his father Benjamin (the son of the right hand) Messiah now seated on the right hand of Power. Then did Israel recognize Joseph (who in this similitude-the Savior of the whole world or your and my Messiah. You hear but do not perceive, but a time is coming when all knee''s will bow to the Messiah of Israel, Praise G-d my Brother. Agape
 
Mike   5/27/2007 8:31 PM
65 .  re:how many days and how many nights
Sorry Rabbi didn''t see the mention of my name. Instead of debating that point of 3 days, I will later. I prefer to show you this. When Joseph demanded to see their youngest brother in Gen42:20 he bound Simeon (hearing) and when they returned with their youngest brother Benoni, the son of my sorrows (Yeshua being a man of sorrows) named by his father Benjamin (the son of the right hand) Messiah now seated on the right hand of Power. Then did Israel recognize Joseph (who in this similitude-the Savior of the whole world or your and my Messiah. You hear but do not perceive, but a time is coming when all knee''s will bow to the Messiah of Israel, Praise G-d my Brother. Agape
 
Mike   5/27/2007 7:42 PM
66 .  re:how many days and how many nights
Sorry Rabbi didn''t see the mention of my name. Instead of debating that point of 3 days, I will later. I prefer to show you this. When Joseph demanded to see their youngest brother in Gen42:20 he bound Simeon (hearing) and when they returned with their youngest brother Benoni, the son of my sorrows (Yeshua being a man of sorrows) named by his father Benjamin (the son of the right hand) Messiah now seated on the right hand of Power. Then did Israel recognize Joseph (who in this similitude-the Savior of the whole world or your and my Messiah. You hear but do not perceive, but a time is coming when all knee''s will bow to the Messiah of Israel, Praise G-d my Brother. Agape
 
Mike   5/27/2007 7:21 PM
67 .  Norway the big LIAR
You completely BLIND & DEAPH
You are doing the job of Satan the father of all liars!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Rulph   5/27/2007 6:20 PM
68 .  MORE LIES from Outreach Judaism (Tovia Singer alias Norway)
[contd from below]

AND

5. "And he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him, and by his stripes we were healed"

6. "All we like sheep did go astray, we turned every one to his own way and YeHVaH hath made to light on him the iniquity of us all"
(Isaiah 53:5-6)
http://quicksitemaker.com/members/disciples/Isaiah_8_9_53.html

Barukh Yehvah Elohay Yisrael Who gave His only begotten son "to be the propotiation for OUR SINS" (1 John 4:10) as Yehvah Elohiym PROMISED TO ABRAHAM.

"BELIEVE that Yeshuwa`is HaMashiyach the only begotten son- of Yehvah Elohiym - who has come into this world and (so) BELIEVING have life in his name"
(Mattityahu 16:16. Yochanon 3:16. 20:31)

"WHO WOULD HAVE BELIEVED OUR REPORT AND TO WHOM HAS THE ARM OF YEHVAH BEEN REVEALED?" [Isaiah 53:1)

NOT TOVIA SINGER of Outreach Judaism.
 
Patrick Geaney to "The children of Yisrael" (Deut 1:3).   5/27/2007 2:23 PM
69 .  MORE LIES from Outreach Judaism (Tovia Singer alias Norway)
Tovia Singer - ALIAS Norway - writes MORE LIES in his comments:
"The Almightys directive - that he only wanted animal sacrifices rather
than human sacrifices"
[Norway 5/26/2007 11:31 PM]

TOVI SINGER is deaf and blind to the plain teachings of Yehvah Elohiym spoken through the Prophet Isaiah concerning His only begotten son Yeshuwa`Mashiyach:

52:13 "Behold, My servant shall prosper, he shall be exalted and lifted up, and shall be very high.

52:14 "According as many were appalled at thee so marred was his visage unlike that of a man, and his form unlike that of the sons of men

52:15 "So shall he sprinkle many nations, kings shall shut their mouths because of him for that which had not been told them shall they see, and that which they had not heard shall they perceive.
(Isaiah 52:13-15)

AND

5. "And he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him, and by his stripes we were healed"<
 
Patrick Geaney to "The children of Yisrael" (Deut 1:3)   5/27/2007 2:14 PM
70 .  http://www.outreachjudaism.org/

 
Norway   5/27/2007 12:33 PM
71 .  Yeshuah Messiah predicts H-is Death and Resurrection...
...and be killed,
and BE RAISED
THE THIRD DAY.
Matt 16:21

... and the THIRD DAY
HE WILL BE RAISED UP.
Matt 17

... deliver Him to
the Gentiles to mock
and to scourge
and to crucify.
AND THE THIRD DAY
HE WILL RISE AGAIN.
Matt 20


... and the THIRD DAY
I shall be perfected.
Luke 13:32

Mark 9:31, Mark 10:34,
Luke 9:22, Luke 18:33,

He - raised - on a Sunday
after Sabbath -
that is the First Day of the week,
in Hebrew terms.

THE THIRD DAY IS TUESDAY.

 
Norway   5/27/2007 11:37 AM
72 .  Yes, and WE are FOUND FALSE WITNESESS OF GOD,
because we have
testified of God

that He raised up Christ,
whom He did not raise up-
-if in fact the dead
do not rise...
1 Cor 15:15
 
Norway   5/27/2007 11:32 AM
73 .  On the next day which followed the Day of Preparation,
the chief priests
and Pharisees gathered
together to Pilate, saying,

Sir, we remember,
while H-e was still alive,
how that DECEIVER said,
After THREE DAYS I will rise.

Therefore command
that the tomb
be made secure
until the third day,

LEST His disciples
come by night
and steal H-im away,

AND SAY TO THE PEOPLE,
He has risen from the dead.

SO THE LAST DESCEPTION

WILL BE WORSE
THAN THE FIRST.

Matthew 27:62-64

 
Norway   5/27/2007 11:29 AM
74 .  Yes, and certain women of our company...
WHO ARRIVED
AT THE TOMB EARLY,
astonished us.

WHEN THEY DID NOT
FIND HIS BODY,

they came saying
that they had also
SEEN A VISION OF ANGELS
WHO SAID HE WAS ALIVE.

And certain of those
who were with us
went to the tomb
and found it just
as the women had said

but Him they did NOT see.

Then H-e said to them,

O foolish ones,
and slow of heart
to believe in all that
the prophets have spoken!
Ought not the Christ
to have suffered these things
and to enter into H-is glory?"

And beginning at Moses
and all the Prophets,
H-e expounded to them
in all the Scriptures
the things concerning H-imself...

 
  5/27/2007 11:25 AM
75 .  Now on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK,
EARLY IN THE MORNING,
...came to the tomb ...saying.

The Son of Man
must be delivered
into the hands of sinful men,
... crucified, and

THE THIRD DAY RISE AGAIN.

...one whose name
was Cleopas answered
and said to H-im,

Are Y-ou the only stranger
in Jerusalem, and have Y-ou
NOT KNOWN the things
which happened there
in these days?

And H-e said to them,

What things?
So they said to H-im,
The things concerning
Jesus of Nazareth,

who was a P-rophet mighty
in deed and word before God
and all the people,

and how the chief priests
and our rulers delivered
H-im to be condemned
to death, and crucified H-im.

But we were hoping
that it was H-e
who was going to
redeem Israel.

Indeed, besides all this,
TODAY IS THE THIRD DAY
SINCE THESE THINGS
HAPPENED.
Luke 24:1-

 
Norway   5/27/2007 11:21 AM
76 .  Now on the FIRST DAY (Sunday) OF THE WEEK,
very EARLY IN THE MORNING,
they, and certain other women
with them, came to the tomb bringing the spices
which they had prepared.

3 DAYS – 2 NIGHTS
Luke 24:1

Now the
FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK
(Sunday) Mary Magdalene
went to the tomb early,

WHILE IT WAS STILL DARK,
and saw that the stone
had been taken away
from the tomb.

!!! 2 - DAYS – 2 NIGHTS - !!!

John 20:1

 
Norway   5/27/2007 11:15 AM
77 .  How many DAYS and how many NIGHTS...
was Yeshua Messiah in the tomb?

Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was THREE DAYS
and THREE NIGHTS
in the belly of the great fish,
so will the Son of Man
BE THREE DAYS
AND THREE NIGHTS
in the heart of the earth.

ALLTHOUGH - Yeshua Messiah
had prophesied that he would
BE in the tomb FOR THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS !!!

Watch carefully Mike...

Matthew 28:1
Now after the Sabbath,
as the FIRST DAY (Sunday)
OF THE WEEK began to dawn,
Mary Magdalene and
the other Mary
came to see the tomb.
3 DAYS – 2 NIGHTS

Mark 16:2
Very early in the morning,
ON THE FIRST DAY (Sunday)
OF THE WEEK,
they came to the tomb
when the SUN HAD RISEN.
3 DAYS – 2 NIGHTS

 
Norway   5/27/2007 11:10 AM
78 .  Righteous Abraham
In Hosea 12:10 God says he has spoken thru, H1819 DAMAH, living representations, models. When Abraham was told to offer Isaac as a sacrifice, from that moment Isaac was dead in Abrahams eyes. So the THREE DAYS that they traveled he was dead to Abraham. Who acting on faith, because G-d promised his seed would number as the stars through Isaac. His SON carried the WOOD up Mount Moriah. Then it seems Abraham comes down alone, We do see not see Isaac again until he meets his bride. YESHUA was dead three days after carrying his CROSS. He will be seen again when he comes back for his called out ones. His ekklesia.
 
Mike   5/27/2007 5:25 AM
79 .  Righteous Abraham
In Hosea 12:10 God says he has spoken thru, H1819 DAMAH, living representations, models. When Abraham was told to offer Isaac as a sacrifice, from that moment Isaac was dead in Abrahams eyes. So the THREE DAYS that they traveled he was dead to Abraham. Who acting on faith, because G-d promised his seed would number as the stars through Isaac. His SON carried the WOOD up Mount Moriah. Then it seems Abraham comes down alone, We do see not see Isaac again until he meets his bride. YESHUA was dead three days after carrying his CROSS. He will be seen again when he comes back for his called out ones. His ekklesia.
 
Mike   5/27/2007 5:24 AM
80 .  Therefore, I will allot him a portion in public,
and with the strong
he shall share plunder,
because he poured out
his soul to death,

and with transgressors
he was counted,
and he bore the sin of many,
and interceded
for the transgressors.
Isaiah 53:12

Interceding for the nations:

And seek the peace
of the city whither I have
caused you to be carried
away captive,
and pray unto the LORD
for it for in the peace thereof
shall ye have peace.
Jer 29:7

and ye shall be unto Me
a kingdom of priests,
Exodus 19:6

The role of the priesthood
– is to bear iniquity.
But ye shall be named
the priests of the LORD,
men shall call you
the ministers of our God.
Isaiah 61:6-9

And the LORD
said unto Aaron:
Thou and thy sons
and thy fathers house
with thee shall bear
the iniquity of the sanctuary
and thou and thy sons
with thee shall bear
the iniquity
of your priesthood.
Numbers 18:1

 
Norway   5/27/2007 12:47 AM
81 .  Of the travail of his soul he shall see to the full,
even My servant,
who by his knowledge
did justify the Righteous One
to the many, and their
iniquities he did bear.
Isaiah 53:11

With his - knowledge ?
In Christian theology
it was not Jesus knowledge,
which justified the world.

It was his blood.

Isaiah does not talk about
a crucified or killed Messiah.

The Prophet is refering to
the Allmightys Servant Israel,
who with his knowledge
confirms to the world,
that there is no God or Savior
beside the God of Israel.

 
Norway   5/27/2007 12:32 AM
82 .  Isaiah 53:10 - Reply to Norway
Then you admit that Isaiah 53:10 is refering to Vicarious Human Atonement - correct?
 
David Hill   5/27/2007 12:26 AM
83 .  Never metaphorical children, as diciples...
or spiritual children.
The Hebrew word,
which can refer to
metaphorical children is – ben.

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/e/et/et1053.htm

Listen for Free:

The Suffering
Servant of Isaiah 53

http://www.outreachjudaism.org/biblical.html

 
Norway   5/27/2007 12:24 AM
84 .  Yet it pleased the LORD to crush him by disease...
to see if his soul
would offer itself
in restitution,
that he might see his seed,
prolong his days,
and that the purpose
of the LORD might
prosper by his hand.
Isaiah 53:10

NOTE!

It was the will
of the Lord
to crush him by disease.
But because
he gave his life
as an atonement,
he shall have

decendants
and prolong his days,

and that the purpose
of the LORD might
prosper by his hand.
Isaiah 53:10

In this verse the servant
is promised a long life
and decendants.
From your christological
position, christians says
that Isaiah 53 is
speaking about Jesus.

Jesus did not have
biological children.
The Hebrew word - zerah
used here, can only refer
to biological children,
when it is used in
connection to
a persons children.

Never metaphorical children,
as diciples or spiritual children.
The Hebrew word, which
can refer to metaphorical
 
Norway   5/27/2007 12:21 AM
85 .  Sin and Atonement: Who Needs the Blood?
http://www.outreachjudaism.org/biblical.html

There is no article of faith
that is more central
to the Church than the belief
in the atoning value
of Jesus sacrificial death
at Calvary. Christians never
miss an opportunity
to point out

the inability to expiate sin
“without the shedding of blood.”

Is this claim really true?
In this crucial lecture,
Rabbi Singer compares
the concepts
of sin and atonement
as set forth by Christianity
and Judaism utilizing
a thorough presentation
of their biblical sources.

 
Norway   5/26/2007 11:42 PM
86 .  For thus saith the LORD:
There shall not be cut off
unto David a man
to sit upon the throne
of the house of Israel

neither shall there be cut off
unto the priests the Levites
a man before Me
to offer burnt-offerings,
and to burn meal-offerings,
and to do sacrifice continually.
Jeremiah 33:17-18

Ezekiel Chapter 43 - 46

 
Norway   5/26/2007 11:38 PM
87 .  So why will - The Sacrificial System be reinstated...
in the Messianic Age?

Yea, every pot in Jerusalem
and in Judah shall be holy
unto the LORD of hosts
and all they that sacrifice
shall come and take of them,
and seethe therein
and in that day
there shall be no more
a trafficker in the house
of the LORD of hosts.
Zec 14:21

Even them will I bring
to My holy mountain,
and make them joyful
in My house of prayer
their burnt-offerings
and their sacrifices
shall be acceptable
upon Mine altar...

for My house
shall be called
a house of prayer
for all peoples.
Isaiah 56:7

 
Norway   5/26/2007 11:37 PM
88 .  If Jesus was the final sacrifice "once for all"...
For the death that He died,
He died to sin once for all.
Romans 6:10

Not with the blood
of goats and calves,
but with His own blood
He entered
the Most Holy Place
once for all,
having obtained
eternal redemption.
Hebrews 9:12

By that will we
have been
sanctified through
the offering of the body
of Jesus Christ
once for all.

Now where there is
remission of these,
there is no longer
an offering for sin.
Hebrews 10:10, 18

 
Norway   5/26/2007 11:34 PM
89 .  Yeshua Messiah was not an acceptable sacrifice...
in God''s eyes!

The Bible warns
the People of Israel
that it is a grave sin
to bring a human being
as a sacrifice.

The Book of Leviticus,
tells us that only distinct
species of animals
are permitted for use
in blood sacrifices.

Human blood does not
cleanse from sin.

Abraham was ready
to sacrifice Isaac,
But the Almighty
admonished him
that He did not want
the human sacrifice,
and directed Abraham
to sacrifice a ram caught
in the thicket instead.

The Almightys directive
- that he only wanted
animal sacrifices rather
than human sacrifices
- was immediately understood.

Could Jesus Death
Atone For Any Kind of Sin?

http://www.outreachjudaism.org/jesusdeath.html

 
Norway   5/26/2007 11:31 PM
90 .  Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised...
from the dead,
how do some among
you say that there
is no resurrection
of the dead?
But if there is no
resurrection of the dead,
then Christ is not risen.

And if Christ is not risen,
then our preaching is empty
and your faith is also empty.

Yes, and we are found
false witnesses of God,

because we have
testified of God
that He raised up Christ,

whom He did not raise up-
-if in fact the dead do not rise.

For if the dead do not rise,
then Christ is not risen.
And if Christ is not risen,
your faith is futile
you are still in your sins!

Then also those who
have fallen asleep
in Christ have perished.
If in this life only
we have hope in Christ,
we are of all men
the most pitiable...
I Cor 15:12-19 NKJ

 
Norway   5/26/2007 11:26 PM
91 .  Vicarious Human Atonement
To the person from Norway who said, "The Jewish Bible teaches us
that human vicarious atonement
is strictly forbidden."

You present no verse in support of your contention and, if it were true, then why is Isaiah 53:10 recorded in the Word regardless of how you interpret it - whether of Y''shua as we do, or of Israel as your ''scholars'' do - it is an example of Vicarious Human Atonement.

"If you make His Soul and Offering for Sin, He will see His own Seed, He will prolong His own day, and the delight of Y''hova will prosper in His Yod."

That is Vicarious Human Atonement...
 
David Hill   5/26/2007 6:27 PM
92 .  The Torah
To the person from Norway you stated that only through the Torah is the way to God however, this is not entirely correct.

It is only through keeping the Torah in all its precepts would a person, by their righteousness, find their way to God and this is something that no man has ever been able to do except Y''shua.

The Hebrew Scriptures state that, "the just shall live by his faith" not by observance of the Torah and that is faith in the author of that Torah which we believe was Y''shua.
 
David Hil   5/26/2007 6:24 PM
93 .  The Resurrection
To the person from Norway who stated that the Gospel accounts vary, this is actually proof of their reliability for no two witnesses will agree on all details in exactly the same language for if they do then that means that they collaborated on their stories - this is principle that Law Enforcement Agents know very well.


 
David Hill   5/26/2007 6:21 PM
94 .  To "No Man can redeem his brother"
You took that verse out of its context.

The preceding verse says, "They that trust in their wealth, and boast themselves in the multitude of their riches None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him."

That verse is stating that you can not buy your way, or anyone elses way, to heaven or to the Father.

We, however, were not bought by a price, but by the precious blood of Y''shua Messiah.



 
David Hill   5/26/2007 6:18 PM
95 .  And Moses returned unto the LORD, and said:
''''Oh, this people
have sinned a great sin,
and have made them
a god of gold.

Yet now, if Thou
wilt forgive their sin
and if not, blot me,
I pray Thee,
out of Thy book
which Thou hast written.''''

And the LORD
said unto Moses:
''''Whosoever hath sinned
against Me,
him will I blot out
of My book.
Exodus 32:31-33

The Jewish Bible teaches us
that human vicarious atonement
is strictly forbidden.
Every person is responsible
for his/her own sins.

 
Norway   5/25/2007 5:34 PM
96 .  No man can by any means redeem his brother,
nor give to God
a ransom for him
For too costly
is the redemption
of their soul,
and must be
let alone for ever.
Ps 49:8-9

Behold, all souls are Mine
as the soul of the father,
so also the soul
of the son is Mine
the soul that sinneth,
it shall die.
Ezek 18:4

The soul that sinneth,
it shall die
the son shall not bear
the iniquity of the father
with him, neither shall
the father bear the iniquity
of the son with him
the righteousness
of the righteous
shall be upon him,
and the wickedness
of the wicked
shall be upon him.

But if the wicked
turn from all his sins
that he hath committed,
and keep all My statutes,
and do that which is
lawful and right,
he shall surely live,
he shall not die.
Ezek 18:20-21

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/e/et/et1218.htm

 
Norway   5/25/2007 5:32 PM
97 .  Was Jesus raised from the dead?
"If Christ has not
been raised,
your faith is futile
and you are still
in your sins."
I Corinthians 15:17

The stories told in the NT,
and the passion narratives
in particular, are so inconsistent,
that the resurrection story
collapses under careful scrutiny.

The conflicting testimonies
of the evangelists are
so unreliable. In fact, there is
virtually not one detail
of the crucifixion
and resurrection narratives,
which all four Gospel
authors agree.

Yet, it is upon this story
that the entire Christian
religion falls...

Did Jesus Rise From the Dead?
What is the Evidence?

http://www.outreachjudaism.org/resurrection.html

 
Norway   5/25/2007 5:29 PM
98 .  Will whoever who believes...
in - him - Jesus not perish,
but have everlasting life..?
John 3:16

Jesus says:
"I am the way,
the truth,
and the life.

No one comes
to the Father
except through Me.
John 14:6

The Torah
Wisdom of God says:
Now therefore, ye children,
hearken unto me
for happy are they
that keep
my ways...

For whoso findeth me
findeth life,
and obtaineth
favour of the Lord.

But he that misseth me
wrongeth his own soul
all they that hate me
love death...
Proverbs 8:32,35-36

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/e/et/et2808.htm

Only through the Torah
is the Way to the God of Israel.

 
Norway   5/25/2007 5:12 PM
99 .  True revelation!!
JESUS CHRIST IS THE LORD!!!
Whether the world likes it or not HE that died and ressurected the third day shall surely come again to truely reveal himself to all. The CROSS is the crux of the mather and not "signs of the angel".
Rabbi David, Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and ye shall be saved. He is the way, the truth and the life. Your father saw the truth and embraced it. do likewise. Follow Jesus, you''ll end in heaven like your father.Shalom.

MARANATHA......
 
Victorian   5/25/2007 3:56 PM
100 .  Who Has Believed Our Report?
But although He had done
so many signs before them,
they did not believe in Him,

that the word
of Isaiah the prophet
might be fulfilled,
which he spoke:

"Lord, who has
believed our report?
And to whom
has the arm
of the LORD
been revealed?"

Therefore they
could not believe,
because Isaiah said again:

"He has blinded their eyes
and hardened their hearts,
Lest they should see
with their eyes,
Lest they should understand
with their hearts and turn,
So that I should heal them."

These things Isaiah said
when he saw His glory
and spoke of Him...
John 12:37-41

The Rapture

http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=135&view;=item&idx;=1206

 
Norway   5/25/2007 1:25 PM
101 .  The Note...
Praise God for HE has opened the eyes and heart of one of HIS chosen people! May all else also experience God''s Truth before it''s too late!

...come Lord Jesus come!
 
God Servant   5/25/2007 3:00 AM
102 .  R'' Kaduri was also quoted as saying...
the imminent arrival
of the Messiah
will "save Jerusalem
from Islam and Christianity
that wish to take Jerusalem
from the Jewish Nation :))

Shortcut to: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55765

"And I will put
enmity Between you
and the woman,
And between your seed
and her Seed

He (GOD) shall
bruise your head,

And you shall
bruise His heel."
Genesis 3:15 NKJ

...even from there
you will kill H-im (Rashi).

Woow - one of our guys
-really made it to the top...

 
Norway   5/23/2007 11:55 AM
103 .  Dialog Polakow i Zydow
Mysle, ze Rabin Yitzak Kaduri cos wiecej mogl powiedziec lub napisac o dialogu polsko - zydowskim? Zaobserowalem, ze po stronie polskiej w imieniu narodu wypowiadaja sie osoby proweniencji komunistycznej i to zaciemnia obraz. Konieczne jest spotkanie autentycznych Polakow z autentycznymi Zydami.
Prosze Zydow, ktorzy umieja pisac i rozmawiac po polsku o kontakt.
/-/Eugeniusz Sendecki
endecki@wp.pl
 
Eugeniusz Sendecki   5/22/2007 3:49 PM
104 .  Attributes part 3/final
He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9)
 
Aharon   5/2/2007 10:14 PM
105 .  Attributes part 2
There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)

All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)

The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)

He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)

Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)

For My House shall be called a house of prayer for all nations (Isaiah 56:3-7)

The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)

The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)

Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)

The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot

He will then perfect the entire world
to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)

Jews will know the Torah without Study (Jeremiah 31:33)

He will give you all the desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)

He will take the barren land and make it abunda
 
Aharon   5/2/2007 10:13 PM
106 .  Attributes of the Messiah
Most of the textual requirements concerning the messiah, what he will do, and what will be done during his reign are located within the Book of Isaiah, although requirements are mentioned in other prophets as well.

The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26)

Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)

The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)

He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via King Solomon
(1 Chron. 22:8-10)

The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)

Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)

Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)

He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)

All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)

There will be no
 
Aharon   5/2/2007 10:12 PM
107 .  Messianic Names
Assuming this report actually had access to the real note (assuming also one was written down by the holy rabbi), one has to honestly say the names are not the same.

Jesus was never known as Joshua and Yehoshua and Yeshu are not the same. Yehoshua includes an extra Hey, one of the letters of G-d''s name. Judaism takes spellings very seriously and even a one letter difference has significant import. The Talmud outlines over 10 names for the true Jewish Messiah. Each cannot be the right name in the sense it belongs to an individual. These names have Hebrew meanings (unlike secular or non-Jewish names). Daniyel means Judgement of G-d. So the name, even if authentic, may represent an attribute of the Messiah and not his given name.
 
Aharon   5/2/2007 10:01 PM


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